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Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:22 pm

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This report is dedicated to my two awesome friends A and T who hosted me and brought me around Hong Kong for 3 super enjoyable days for a getaway from Singapore! Already missing you guys! See y'all in January 2015!

Background

Hello my dear readers! Once again, I have gone and completely mess up the order of my trip reports. Haha. But when inspiration hits, it's best to just ride on it and see what comes out of it! So this trip was the result of a very boring day in class. It was the second week of school, and some of my closest friends had deserted me and had gone to Hong Kong for a semester on an exchange programme. They claimed it was retribution for me leaving them for Dublin...  

I had already toyed with the idea of visiting them in Hong Kong, but on this fateful, dreary day in class, I discovered a fare too good to be missed!

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 Wow!

Just the day before, fares were north of SGD $300, and I knew that it was near impossible that it would ever go lower than $267.40. Interestingly, purchasing from the CX website would cost me $10 more, and I would need to use a credit card issued by a particular bank. So while my teacher was droning on about "in every company, you must have a corporate strategy... blah blah blah blah...", I whipped out my credit card (under the table), and proceeded to make the purchase. And Voilà! My most fruitful class of the semester!   

Fast forward 3 weeks, I got engaged to my fiancée. Another 3 weeks later, I went to Bulgaria. And then another 2 horrible weeks in school, it was time to go to Hong Kong!!   

Outbound Flight

I ended class at 10.30am, drove home at record speed, shouted to my dad ("Let's go!!!!"), and we sped to the airport, arriving curb side at 11.15am for my 12.45pm flight. Not too bad in my opinion having travelled from West to East. But then, Singapore is positively minuscule so...

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Dad dropped me off right at the CX counters

At this time, I had just turned oneworld emerald on BA's Executive Club, thanks largely to my QR and MH flights, so I headed to the Business Class check-in counters, which were empty. To be honest, it was an exciting moment, finally having some sort of status!! I handed my passport over, and placed my check-in bag on the belt.

"Good morning! I'm heading to Hong Kong today," I greeted the friendly agent. She took my passport and proceeded to tap away on her computer, while I waited patiently.

Unexpectedly, she frowned and pursed her lips.

Uh oh... Did I get booted off the flight because of my über cheap fare?

"Sir..." she began. No! No! I don't wanna hear it!!

"I am going to put you in Premium Economy today, Sir."

 Wow!

My first op-up ever!!!!

I was in a bit of a shock at that moment, but thankfully recovered myself.

"Thank you very much!! The flight today must be very full?" I asked

"Yes, Sir..." she trailed off while tapping away. And before I forgot...

"Can I still have a window seat please?" I asked, laughing.

"Yes, of course, Sir!" she smiled.

My boarding pass was printed, my luggage was tagged (with a First class tag no less!!) and I was more than good to go!

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Last few shots land-side before I go air-side!

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The last time I departed from Terminal 1, it was to leave Singapore for 5 months. I'm glad I'm back, but I miss Dublin too  

Immigration was a breeze with the automated gantries, so I was air-side quickly, and suddenly had more than an hour to kill!

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Social tree in the distance

I headed to the heavily-tinted glass to check out what was out there.

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Just a couple of lonely air asia birds

With nothing much to see, I decided to head to the lounge to get myself some lunch!

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Cathay Pacific uses the Skyview Lounge

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Operated by dnata

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I'm not sure if it's supposed to be CX-themed...?

I handed my lounge invite over to the agents, who seemed more interested in their own conversation, unfortunately.

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Seating area if you turn right

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More seating and buffet spread if you turn left

Apologies for my rather greenish photographs. The tinted glass windows made everything look a bit odd.

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Decent hot food offerings

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Grabbed myself some curry chicken, rice, broccoli, and a puff

Still on a high from the op-up, I was gleefully making my family jealous through whatsapp. Although, to be honest, I knew it was just a hardware upgrade. The service and food would still be the same as Economy. From afar, I noticed a pretty bird taxiing in.

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Hello there!

Well, clearly I still had some time to finish up my lunch!!

With about half an hour left to departure, I decided to leave the lounge and take a stroll to the gate. Unfortunately, my gate turned out to be right at the food of the escalator, so I didn't even get a chance to stroll anywhere. Not wanting to go through security and wait in the waiting pan, I loitered around nearby...

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Starbucks here

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WOW!! I've never seen immigration so crowded before!

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Gate for my flight

I soon decided to go through security, as I figured boarding would commence pretty soon.

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Now I had a clear (greenish) view of my ride

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Oh looks like her sister just arrived!

Boarding was finally called over the PA about 10 minutes to departure. Marco Polo club members, oneworld emerald and sapphire passengers, and Business Class passengers were invited to board first. However, there was nobody to police this, but it seemed like most people followed instructions.


Cathay Pacific
CX690
SIN-HKG
Airbus A330-300
B-LAH
Seat 30K
Premium Economy

After being welcomed on board, I made my way across the galley to the K side of the plane, and proceeded down the aisle before arriving at the Premium Economy Cabin.

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The tinted windows are gone but my photographs are still green   

I was pleasantly surprised to find I had been assigned the bulkhead row, seat 30K.

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My seats for the flight!

As a responsible bulkhead seat passenger, I kept my small bag on top   

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Cathay, Eva Air, HSBC? Is this even Singapore? Oh yes there's a Silkair aircraft in the corner...

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Legroom was borderline ridiculous!

My seat mate soon arrived - an old chap who was more than content keeping quiet and snoozing the whole flight.

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Even the bulkhead looks far in this photograph

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A very young boy was seated in the last row of J

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Electric socket and USB down by the footrest

We were pretty much left to our own devices until boarding was completed. Our Captain welcomed us on board and apologised for the slight delay, promising to make up our time along the way to Hong Kong. Shortly after, our aircraft pushed back for departure.

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SQ's A330 chilling out

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Ambling towards the runway

It was a very short taxi to the runway, so the cabin crew were in a hurry to secure the cabin for departure. They look visibly flustered.

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Awaiting our turn

I was most delighted to capture an SQ A330 touching down, perfectly performing the tip-toe touchdown that I always talk about!!   

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Tip-toeing!

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An angry-looking 777 soon loomed up...

However, it was our turn on the runway first!

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About to spool up..

There was a loudly squawking baby nearby, so I ditched the video-taking idea and stuck to photographs of our departure.

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Here we go!

The Trent 700s spooled up slowly and leisurely, taking their own sweet time to reach take-off thrust. What ensued was possibly the most unexciting take-off roll I've ever had. In less than half a minute, our nose tilted up and we were off the ground!

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Lifting off gracefully

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And up we go!

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Goodbye Singapore! See you in 3 days' time!

Having taken off towards the South, we did a 180 u-turn back to head north towards Hong Kong.

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U-turning..

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And now climbing steadily up to cruise altitude

"Ding!"

The seatbelt signs went off, and I headed straight to the toilet. There was so much space that never once did I need to inconvenience my seat mate.

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Pretty standard Economy toilet

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An attempt at some amenities

Back at my seat, I released my screen to check out what was available.

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The screen mechanism was a bit wonky. The screen would randomly droop down sometimes in turbulence

An attempt to use the foot rest failed spectacularly. They were far too short.

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Do not choose this seat if footrests are your thing..

I then proceeded to pick a TV show. I must have chosen something unmemorable since I don't remember what i was watching lol. Meanwhile, the first round of drinks was served on a tray. I picked the Orange Juice, which turned out to be the most artificial tasting thing on earth.   

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Any idea as to what I'm watching   

The little drinks tray was quite handy, although it made the cup extremely precarious so I was quite wary of using it.

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Next came a nuts pack and a refreshing towel

After this, the service stopped. I presume our meal was being prepared in the galley, so I simply continued on watching whatever I was watching.

About an hour into the flight, the trolleys were finally brought out and the meal service began. I can't remember the other option, but I chose the Pork with Rice today.

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Had a cup of red wine, and water to go along

Our aisle was served by two very functional stewards. There was no attempt at friendliness or warmth    But they did their jobs well enough so can't really complain either.

The simple meal tray was a standard Economy meal. On short-haul sectors, paying for premium economy only gives you the better hard product and nothing much more.

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Although these were probably the best-quality plastic cutlery I've ever used

Amazingly, I was actually a bit peckish by now, so I ended up eating the whole main dish!   

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And it tasted good too!

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Soldering on towards Hong Kong

The crew gave us ample time to digest our food before coming around again with our dessert and an offer for tea or coffee.

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Whee! Who can deny Häagen-Dazs?

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Tea with milk

Today I did not make the same mistake of ordering 'Milk Tea' a la my Dragonair experience. Lol. Wouldn't want another    moment would I?   

My show had long finished by then and I needed the toilet again. One drawback of this plane's configuration is the lack of standing space near the toilets. Those queueing from the rear cabin can spill over to the emergency exit, but those from the front cabin had to loiter next to passengers, and I could tell that they were visibly annoyed by my fat arse.

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Forward Y cabin. Curtains between Y and Y+ were left open for this flight

With about 1.5 hours left to go, I spent the rest of my time on my laptop writing up my recent Lufthansa Trip Report. Along the way I decided to use the call bell to order myself a can of Coke Zero.

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Zero Calories happiness   

Other than that, we were left alone to entertain ourselves.


Getting a little frosty..

I was, in fact, getting just a little bit bored by now  Wow! So I took this time to reflect on the Y+ seat. Firstly, leg-room was unquestionably awesome on the bulkhead row. However, I never got to try the standard rows so I have no idea how they felt. Secondly, the seat itself was definitely comfortable and gave me more room. I didn't have to share an armrest with my seat mate. Overall, though, I still felt BA's Y+ to be better somehow. Without knowing or checking the actual statistics, BA's seat seemed wider and more comfortable. The fixed-winged headrests were also really good on BA, whereas the adjustable type on CX never quite hit the spot, and many of them possibly lose their stiffness over time. In essence, I felt quite a bit more 'premium' in BA's Y+ than in CX's.

But of course, life could be worse without an op-up   

Before long, we were 40 minutes out of Hong Kong and the pilot announced that we would begin our descent. It was a beautiful evening out there, although it soon became a bit foggy once we hit the cloud layer.

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Doing some turns as we descended

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Beautiful sky

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Entering the fog

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It was kinda grey down here

Since the bawling baby had kinda stopped crying, I decided to take a video of our arrival into Hong Kong!

Our approach was a little bit bumpy, but the pilots executed our landing perfectly   

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Some resting aircraft spotted while en route to the terminal

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Pleasantly surprised to spot an SQ right behind us!

Our taxi to the terminal was fairly short, and very soon we were put on stand.

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Turning into our parking bay

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I noticed this A330 that refused to retract her landing gear!

As our aircraft came to a stop, the seatbelt signs were turned off and there was the usual rush to grab belongings and await disembarkation. This happened pretty quickly, and I was off the aircraft and into the terminal!

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Had to take the shuttle train as we were parked quite far away

With Singapore being recently included in the frequent traveller scheme, coupled with my BA Executive Club status, I decided to apply for the e-channel access into and out of Hong Kong. But for today, I had to go through the normal way before submitting my application. I nearly missed the make-shift booth and stepped out into the baggage claim area! Luckily there was a huge sign.

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It took me about 10 minutes to process the application, but will save me tons of time at immigration in and out of Hong Kong till the time my passport expires!   

My luggage bag was circling the belt when I was done, so I was quickly out into the arrivals hall, onto the Airport Express, and into Hong Kong within half an hour!

Conclusion of Outbound Flight

While describing the crew as lacklustre on this flight would be an understatement, the op-up was a nice surprise and gave me a taste of CX's Premium Economy. The ample legroom and wider seat definitely made the flight an overall better experience! The crew did their job well enough and most importantly I got whatever I wanted (drinks, meal, more tea, more coke, etc...) with no grudge or complaints so that was fine by me. Overall, CX got me to Hong Kong in comfort, and well-fed!
 
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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:23 pm

Glimpses of Hong Kong

The next few days were spent with my friends, who brought me around to a mix of touristy place and local places. And every meal we ate something awesome! Thankfully I wasn't there for too long, otherwise I would have ballooned into an unrecognisable lump of lard.

We visited the Victoria Peak, as I had never been there before. My friend and I hiked took the bus up, while another really hiked up and met us at the top.  Wow!

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But it created a nice effect when the sun had set

We also went to take a look at the Big Buddha on Lantau island. I had once seen it on take-off from Hong Kong but have never seen it up close.

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That's a loooooong way to go....

From the cable car, we had some awesome views of the airport, as well as arriving and departing aircraft. Pity it was a bit hazy and the glass was very dirty.

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Huge!!

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Made from Bronze

Other than these two main attractions, we did quite a bit of walking around Hong Kong, accidentally went past the protests at Causeway Bay, ate tons of food and, unfortunately, being students, studied at night   

Very quickly, 3 nights passed, and it was time for me to head back home to Singapore after this very enjoyable getaway!


Inbound Flight

The night before my flight, I realised that I had committed the largest sin since arriving into Hong Kong.

I hadn't eaten any Dim Sum yet!!!  Wow!

With a 3.15pm departure, the plan would be to do a late morning in-town check in, proceed to eat our Dim Sum, then return back to take the Airport Express to the airport.

   Wouldn't miss out on good Dim Sum after all.

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In-town check in

Check in was a bit crowded this morning. There were queues for the Economy and Business lines. The First Class sign simply directed me to walk around these queues to line up right in front of the counter, which was being occupied by a couple. The gentleman was checking in, while the lady was busy packing her bag on the trolley.

It was my first time making use of my oneworld Emerald benefit of First Class check-in, so I was rather self-conscious of all the evil eyes looking at this lost young man trying to cut the queue.

Suddenly, I heard a voice pipe up.

"This isn't actually a queue, you know?" It was the lady in front of me.

Stunned for a moment, I looked around wondering if there really was a First Class queue, or not. However, I was pretty sure that I was at the right place.

"I'm queueing up for the First Class counter," I replied her, nodding towards the overhead screen.

"Oh!" she exclaimed as her eyes visibly widened, turning around to verify my statement by looking at the screen.

"I'm sorry," she muttered, embarrassed, just as her partner was done. Quickly, she pushed her trolley out of the way and they left. The agent at the counter smiled and waved me forward.

Wow. Did I just have a Do-You-Know-Who-I-Am moment???   

Anyway, I was swiftly checked in by a very polite agent who apologised for the wait (though it was only 2 minutes at most??) My boarding pass and lounge invite were printed out, luggage tagged, and I was good to go! In less than 8 minutes, I was in and out of the check-in area and it was Dim Sum time!!

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Mmm. We took a tram to Kennedy Town for some Sun Hing Dim Sum! It was simply delicious and I was fully stuffed after lunch. What a great way to end my trip! We then headed back to Central Station, and after a final cup of coffee at Starbucks with my friends, we said our goodbyes and I headed to the airport.

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Just past noon on this Sunday, the train was very full and every seat in my cabin was taken! Clearly a very popular mode of transport to the airport, especially with the convenience of in-town check-in thrown in.

In less than half an hour, we arrived at the airport.

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I had quite some time so I took a walk around to look at the CX check-in area.

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Tons of self check-in kiosks and bag drop counters behind

But then, I got lazy. So I just went through air-side instead.   

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South Departures Security

The queue for security was quite short, but those for immigration were long! Thankfully, I could have my first go at using the e-passport control today!

It was a piece of cake, and I was airside in a couple of minutes!   

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There was a rather nondescript sign pointing out CX's The Wing First Class lounge. This tiny corridor led you straight to it, otherwise it would be a short walk down the escalators, before routing back to the left to the main lounge entrance. Business Class passengers would have to do that. A little like the Concorde Room in Heathrow Terminal 5 actually...

I was rather excited at being able to, for the first time, utilise another of my oneworld Emerald benefits - First Class Lounge access!!   

I headed down the narrow corridor, met a bunch of lounge agents, handed over my lounge invite, and was admitted in.

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Very classy wall/sign

Immediately, I was met with the Champagne bar where I was offered a glass of champagne!

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There was the regular Moët, a Moët Rosé, and Deutz The Peninsular Champagne on offer

I went for The Peninsular, and I absolutely loved it!   

The lounge was decently crowded, especially in the first sitting area.

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Looking back towards the entrance at the far end

Across a manned bar, there was another section with more seating. This area was much less crowded. Perhaps many passengers didn't bother venturing so far into the lounge.

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Here, there was also a long bar table with high stools, which I took to immediately as it gave me a nice view of the aircrafts outside!

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Just enjoying my bubbly and watching the movements on the ramp   

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An earlier flight to Singapore was boarding right below me

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Unique solo seats

I also tried sitting in one of these little coves thingies. Very intelligent in design, as it immediately blocked out everything outside of my little space and I could ignore anything going on outside. In no time at all, I found my champagne glass empty so I unabashedly headed back to the Champagne bar to get myself another glass hehe   

I spent the next twenty minutes or so just relaxing and feeling glad that I had this opportunity to escape from school and blessed that I could be here enjoying this whole experience.

With just over an hour to go, I decided that I should still check out one more thing in this lounge despite feeling quite full still - The Haven.

The Haven is the restaurant inside the lounge, and I thought I'd just have a quick look and perhaps order myself a dessert or something   

I was attended to and immediately shown a seat. The menu was handed to me and I was given some time to process it.

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Overview of The Haven

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Table all set up like fine dining restaurant   

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Menu

Oooo but the beef cheek sounded so good!   

And before i knew it, I had ordered myself a beef cheek, the Banana Fritter with Ice cream, a glass of red wine, and a cappuccino.

Urgh. Fail whale.

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The beef cheek was quick to arrive, and it tasted splendid. I ate about two-thirds of the plate before forcing my greedy self to stop.

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The Shiraz went very well with it

I had just about 15 mins left to boarding, so I quickly waved a waitress over to clear my plate and serve the dessert.

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This. Tasted. So. Good

I ate it all.

Every single bit of it.

  

I had little time left and my gate was far away, so my stomach and I left The Wing lounge and proceeded straight to the gate.

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Some shots of the airport

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Gate 36 today. Would have to take the shuttle train

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I spy some arriving Emirates crew

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Heading down into the depths of Hong Kong Airport

A quick train ride later, I emerged to find my gate very near by. Also, CX has another lounge here named The Bridge.

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No qualms as to the name's origin

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My gate to the left. Technically I could have walked all the way here if I wanted to

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And my aircraft! Parked next to SQ whose scheduled departure time was just 5 minutes after ours

Boarding was well underway by the time I arrived at the gate, so I headed straight up the priority queue where a gate agent checked my boarding pass and passport.

"Have a pleasant flight!" she wished me, and it was down the air bridge for me!

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A quick snapshot of ANA next to us
 
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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:24 pm

Cathay Pacific
CX635
HKG-SIN
Airbus A330-300
B-HLV
Seat 61K
Economy

For this flight, I deliberately selected a seat in the rear cabin so that I could have a view of the wing, yet be able to see the scenery down below. 61K was the third row of that cabin.

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Entering the rear cabin

This aircraft was outfitted with the fixed-back shell seats that were apparently very unpopular on Cathay Pacific. Not sure if they were transferred over from long-haul aircraft or originally already fitted with these.

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My seat. My seatmate had yet to arrive

Upon sitting down, I immediately understood why these seats were unpopular. In an attempt to provide lumbar support, the seat curves quite a lot into your back. Yet, it was obvious that this curvature was not true cushioning but probably some sort of mesh/carboard-like material. It was pretty bizarre, because for a short being like me, the curve of the seat simply didn't fit well into my torso at all. I couldn't imagine enduring long-haul flights in these...

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Legroom, however, was more than ample.

My seat mate arrived very soon after I did. We said 'hi!' before he dumped his stuff on top and plonked himself down into his seat.

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Seatback

Another point worth mentioning was that the seat back was actually quite high. Luckily, the PTVs could be tilted downwards for a favourable viewing angle.

Or maybe, I am just really that short.

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View out of the window

Interestingly but also very strangely, these seats were equipped with air-bag seat belts.

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Why   

Anyway, we were soon welcomed on board by Captain Candy (yes, that's really her name). She announced a flight time of 3 hours and 20 minutes and thanked us for flying with Cathay Pacific. Soon, the safety video was aired as our aircraft began pushback.

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Goodbye SQ! Looks like you're running late!   

We began the slow and rather long taxi to the runway.

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Lufthansa's 748i arriving

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Oh no! Being retired?   

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Oh, no. I think she's just being washed!   

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Wow how did that get across the Pacific??

There wasn't much of a queue for takeoff, so we turned onto the runway and slowly but surely spooled up for takeoff!

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Here we go!

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Liftoff!

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Our A330 climbed steeply into the air, gainly height quickly.

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Goodbye Hong Kong!

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And flaps retracted...

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Reaching a steady state of climb

My sister had recommended the latest Transformers movie to me. Noting that the duration of the movie was almost 3 hours long, I reckoned I had better get on with it if I wanted to finish it by the end of the flight.

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Firing up StudioCX

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Transformers! The screen quality was very good.

As I began to become engrossed in my movie, I noticed out of the corner of my eye a cabin crew trying to catch my attention.

Well well what could it be...   

"Welcome on board, Mr pokfur. My name is R, how are you today?" she addressed me cheerfully.

 Wow! Was this to be my first ever personal welcome??

"I'm good! Thank you very much!" I replied her.

"That's great Mr pokfur! Thank you for choosing to fly with Cathay Pacific Mr pokfur, and if you need anything, please do not hesitate to look for me!" R informed me very kindly. At this point, she fished out a bottle of Evian water and handed it over to me before taking her leave.

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Wow!! That was extremely unexpected. What a departure from my outbound flight! It seems like CX does recognise oneworld Emerald status holders from other programs as well, except that it's not done consistently. Well, for me it's been 50--50 so far lol. Thankfully, my seat mate steadfastly ignored everything otherwise I would have been rather embarrassed to be honest.

I then carried on watching my movie happily.

Soon, the initial round of drinks and nuts were offered to passengers.

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I was way too full so I didn't eat the nuts. After a while, the cabin began to feel a little cold so I rang the call bell to ask for a blanket. A different FA arrived this time, and she was equally friendly and cheery.

"I'm so sorry Sir, we have run out of blankets already," she told me apologetically. I was going to just accept my cold fate, but she went on to offer.

"Sir, can I get you a hot drink instead? Maybe a cup of tea or coffee to warm you up?" she asked hopefully.

"Ah, maybe a cup of tea with milk please!" I replied.

"Sure! I'll come back to you, Sir," she replied happily.

Now that was definitely some pro-active service going on   

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My tea, with milk   

Similar to the outbound, the meal was served about an hour into the flight. Now, to eat, or not to eat?

Eat.

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I really am very greedy aren't I?

I had a chicken with rice, and a coke zero to go along with it. No more alcohol for today as I had had quite a bit in the lounge already   

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Sadly (for my health and weight), the food tasted so good that I ate all the chicken up. The irony!

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Some out of the window IFE

Post-meal, I continued on with my movie and visited the toilet a couple of times. My seat mate was very happy to let me out the 3 or 4 times on this short flight. Sorry dude! On one of the times, a very strange incident occurred.

While queueing, a young boy approached from the front cabin to queue as well. He had crossed his arms and was rubbing them up and down.

"Feeling cold?" I asked him.

The boy replied in an accent that I found hard to understand. But basically he ignored my question and went on to talk about how he hated aeroplane toilets and found himself stuck inside one once, and somebody had to kick the door open for him. He then went on to ask if I could let him go first as he was extremely urgent. Well, so was I, but okay.

Finally, a toilet was vacated, and the young boy entered. To my ultimate horror, he proceeded to use one hand to hold the door open, and use the other to try to relief himself!!!   

I didn't quite know what to do! To help him hold the door open? Or insist that he close it?   

However, before I could get the shock out of my system, the young boy decided that it was too difficult to do both at the same time, and he scampered out of the toilet back to his seat without a word!!   

A fellow passenger and I exchanged a perplexed look, before I dismissed the situation and used the toilet myself. What an odd little boy. I do hope that one day he is able to overcome his fear of airplane toilets.

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Back at my seat, the sun had begun to set. Our trays had been cleared by this time, though I realised I hadn't been served any dessert. Did the crew miss my row? My seat mate didn't have one, but those across the aisle did. Hmm..

Well, I decided it was time to take up R's promise so I ventured forward into the galley to look for her.

"Mr pokfur! How can I help you?" she said cheerily immediately upon seeing me.

"Hello R, I'm afraid your crew might have missed our row when giving out the desserts just now," I informed her.

"Oh I'm so sorry Mr pokfur!! I'll get some for you right now!" she replied, with a genuine look of horror on her face.

"Please! Take a seat, I will bring it to you. Would you like anything else Mr pokfur?" she asked. I contemplated for a moment before ordering another cup of tea, and apologised to her for the trouble.

R brought a mini Häagen-Dazs tub and the tea for me a short while later. I forgot to take a picture in my moment of gluttony.   

I then carried on with my movie which was almost ending.

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The sun peeked out from behind the clouds occasionally

Just as my movie was ending, I was surprised to find the ISM next to my seat!

"Mr pokfur, how's your flight so far?" she inquired kindly.

"It's good, thank you very much!" I replied.

"Alright. Thank you for flying Cathay Pacific, and if you need anything else, please let my senior purser R know," she said.

Wow! I could get used to this!   

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The Orange sun setting

Captain Candy soon came on the PA to announce our descent into Singapore. My movie ended at this time, and I packed up my belongings to prepare for arrival.

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We flew past Changi Airport on the downwind leg

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That's Singapore and her famous ships!

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Overshooting our tiny island a little bit, before u-turning

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Commencing our u-turn

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And coming in to land!

I took a video of our arrival as I wanted to capture the scenery below. Here, you can see us crossing the East Coast, flying above Tanah Merah Golf Course, crossing the ECP and PIE, before finally touching down. Of course, the A330's classic double touchdown can be observed at 1:13 and 1:16, where our entire aircraft and wing very obviously plonks itself onto the ground!

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And I'm home again  

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Taxiing to the terminal

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The refurbished Terminal 1 looking quite spectacular from the aircraft's point of view

My flight had come to an end. Once again, passengers were in a rush to disembark. Along the way out, R was standing by the galley saying goodbye to passengers.

"Thank you Mr pokfur!" she said to me as I passed by.

"Thank you!" I replied. Honestly, I was mightily impressed that R had bothered to remember my name for the entire duration of the flight!   

Off the aircraft and into the terminal I went, feeling very happy. Immigration was quick, but my baggage did take a while to come out despite the First Class Priority tags.

Conclusion of Inbound Flight

Well this flight was completely different from my outbound flight! Here, I received warm, genuine, and even personalised service. It wasn't just me; the crew treated all other passengers similarly, unlike the robotic crew on the outbound flight. The seats on this aircraft really were not very good, but I suppose CX didn't want to spend more money refurbishing their short-haul fleet. After all, other aspects of the seat such as the IFE system/screen were still functioning perfectly and of good quality.

Taking into account the whole experience - the op-up, the awesome lounge at Hong Kong, the impeccable service on my inbound flight... I can safely say that every dollar spent on this (very cheap) pair of flights was well worth it! So much so that I was tempted to immediately book another flight back to Hong Kong two weeks later for $300.    I didn't, of course. Lol.

After collecting my luggage, I was soon out into the arrivals hall where my sister greeted me!

"Dinner?" she asked hopefully.

Oh God. Not food again!!!!   


pokfur



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phileet92
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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Sat Nov 08, 2014 7:02 pm

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
Wow how did that get across the Pacific??

GUMHKG

Nice trip report. Very jealous of your visit to The Wing F-Lounge - you missed The Cabanas thought!
 
CdnCactus
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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Sat Nov 08, 2014 10:01 pm

My biggest question for you is how were you not 50 lbs heavier after the trip?

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
My first op-up ever!!!!

My last op-up was in summer SFO-YVR on United. I checked in and was told no seat can be assigned to me until later. Of course I was thinking holy @#%#$ is the flight oversold and I'm being bumped? Then just prior to boarding they gave me a seat without telling me it's Economy Plus instead of Economy. Actually, I didn't even realize the difference until I sat down and a little sign on the seat back happily announced the fact to me.

So, I think your CX op-up experience (robotic crew notwithstanding) started off far better than mine.

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
Today I did not make the same mistake of ordering 'Milk Tea' a la my Dragonair experience. Lol. Wouldn't want another    moment would I?

You'd think CX going to HK would serve milk tea though? Hong Kong style?

Quoting pokfur (Reply 1):
We also went to take a look at the Big Buddha on Lantau island. I had once seen it on take-off from Hong Kong but have never seen it up close.

Did you go inside the Big Buddha?

Quoting pokfur (Reply 2):
Or maybe, I am just really that short.

Ahem...I shall refrain from commenting.   

Those seats DO look mighty ugly.
 
debonair
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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:18 pm

Hi, great TR!

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
I received warm, genuine, and even personalised service. It wasn't just me; the crew treated all other passengers similarly, unlike the robotic crew on the outbound flight.

Yes, CX has some of the best crews! Last year I was shocked to see a crew in Economy member pausing the movie on the PTV, so that the passenger could finish watching the movie where he nodded off... Then the crew member climbed in an acrobatic maneuver over this passenger to close the blinds, without waking up the passenger.

Quoting pokfur (Reply 1):
Today I did not make the same mistake of ordering 'Milk Tea' a la my Dragonair experience. Lol.

THANK YOU! Just completed Delhi to Hong Kong on 9W! In front of me at the airport's McDonald's was one follow passenger ordering a "Milk Tea". The answer from the staff was very simple: "First you will get tea and then milk and then you have got "Milk Tea"-okay?" POKFUR - was it you?   
 
9w748capt
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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:35 pm

Great TR - very much enjoyed! Am quite jealous of your oneworld emerald status! Us lowly sapphires don't have it quite as good! Isn't the CX F lounge amazing? Would have to disagree though - wife and I far preferred the Moet to the Peninsula champagne  

Just curious (and I could look this up myself but am too lazy) - do CX discount Y fares earn BAEC tier points? Quite annoying that nothing below Y/B/H earns anything on AA   Oh well...

Also - does PEY not even get a PDB on short hauls? I can understand no amenity kit - but a PDB would be quick and easy and another way to distinguish PEY from Y-.
 
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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Sun Nov 09, 2014 12:15 am

Hello phileet92!

Quoting phileet92 (Reply 3):
GUMHKG

Is that a route they serve?? With a 737??

Quoting phileet92 (Reply 3):
Nice trip report. Very jealous of your visit to The Wing F-Lounge - you missed The Cabanas thought!

My first time there! Yeah I know but I didn't have enough time to try everything out.. Maybe next time!   

Thanks for dropping a comment!




Hello CdnCactus!

Quoting CdnCactus (Reply 4):
My biggest question for you is how were you not 50 lbs heavier after the trip?

Hahahaha! In actual fact, I was just about 1 lb heavier only   

Quoting CdnCactus (Reply 4):
So, I think your CX op-up experience (robotic crew notwithstanding) started off far better than mine.

Uh yes it does sound like mine went a bit better than yours    I'm not well-versed with US airlines so I'm not sure what Economy Plus is...    Same as Premium Economy?

Quoting CdnCactus (Reply 4):
You'd think CX going to HK would serve milk tea though? Hong Kong style?

I'd have thought so too! Which is what I did on Dragonair a while ago but received a ridiculous answer from the FA. So I decided not to risk a stupid answer this time around too.  

Quoting CdnCactus (Reply 4):
Did you go inside the Big Buddha?

Not inside inside; one has to pay for that. But I did go inside the free-admission part.

Quoting CdnCactus (Reply 4):
Ahem...I shall refrain from commenting.

Haha it's ok. I'm still average-height among men of Singapore   

Quoting CdnCactus (Reply 4):
Those seats DO look mighty ugly.

Yes they do. Sometimes you wonder what went through the heads of the designers   

Thanks for dropping by my friend!




Hello debonair!

Quoting debonair (Reply 5):
Hi, great TR!

Thanks!   

Quoting debonair (Reply 5):
Yes, CX has some of the best crews! Last year I was shocked to see a crew in Economy member pausing the movie on the PTV, so that the passenger could finish watching the movie where he nodded off... Then the crew member climbed in an acrobatic maneuver over this passenger to close the blinds, without waking up the passenger.

Wow that's really some tender loving care there! Haha. Imagine if the passenger woke up halfway while the crew was climbing over him. I think I would be rather shocked to find someone on top of me!

Quoting debonair (Reply 5):
THANK YOU! Just completed Delhi to Hong Kong on 9W! In front of me at the airport's McDonald's was one follow passenger ordering a "Milk Tea". The answer from the staff was very simple: "First you will get tea and then milk and then you have got "Milk Tea"-okay?" POKFUR - was it you?   

LOL Oh dear poor guy!! Well I haven't been to India before, so that most certainly wasn't me. Once bitten, twice shy, as they say   

Thanks for dropping by!




Hello 9w748capt!

Quoting 9w748capt (Reply 6):
Am quite jealous of your oneworld emerald status! Us lowly sapphires don't have it quite as good!

Haha. It came to me unexpectedly. I was aiming for sapphire, but then some (relatively) cheap MH J fares came along and suddenly I was *just* 150 tier points short of Emerald, so I went for it, especially considering the soft landing to Sapphire it will give me after that!

Quoting 9w748capt (Reply 6):
Isn't the CX F lounge amazing?

It is! I absolutely loved it!

Quoting 9w748capt (Reply 6):
Would have to disagree though - wife and I far preferred the Moet to the Peninsula champagne

Haha!    That's good! To each his own, and it shows that CX is also doing a good job of providing variety to cater to everyone's tastes.

Quoting 9w748capt (Reply 6):
Just curious (and I could look this up myself but am too lazy) - do CX discount Y fares earn BAEC tier points?

Yes, I was surprised to find they did! Each flight earned me a measly 400 avios and 10 tier points though haha.

Quoting 9w748capt (Reply 6):
Quite annoying that nothing below Y/B/H earns anything on AA

I see.. I considered the AA program too as I think the burn rate is better than BA's. However, it was near impossible to find a way to clock the required segments on AA metal.

Quoting 9w748capt (Reply 6):
Also - does PEY not even get a PDB on short hauls? I can understand no amenity kit - but a PDB would be quick and easy and another way to distinguish PEY from Y-.

Sorry for my daftness, but what is PDB?   

Thanks for stopping by!

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Sun Nov 09, 2014 1:43 am

Great trip report & nice pics!

CX is the airline that I have not yet flown that I want to try most of all...
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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Sun Nov 09, 2014 1:55 am

Hi Pokfur

First of all congrats on your engagement!

Nice report. I often fly to SIN with CX a they have good deals too! Too bad that they seldom send their B747 there as I would love to catch another ride with her before she leaves the fleet.

I was just wondering about your BA executive club, you mentioned that you recently turned Emerald mainly travelling with MH and QR. I am also BA club member (albet only on the lowest tier) but i find myself travelling with CX more since moving to HKG. In order to move up the tier ladder do I need to travel on BA designated flights or code share flights? so that means i can fly CX as many times (assuming not a code share with BA) and never get higher than the basic tier? Only earning air miles but not tier points?

i am thinking of transfering to CX Marco Polo but then i will end up with 0 points as i dont think that you can transfer points from one airline to another

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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Sun Nov 09, 2014 3:09 am

Hello 777Jet!

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 8):
Great trip report & nice pics!

Thank you! Hope you enjoyed it all   

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 8):
CX is the airline that I have not yet flown that I want to try most of all...

Good idea! Overall I'm very happy with them, so I'm sure you'll have a great experience too!!




Hello Toby!

Quoting toby25 (Reply 9):
First of all congrats on your engagement!

Thank you!!   

Quoting toby25 (Reply 9):
Nice report. I often fly to SIN with CX a they have good deals too! Too bad that they seldom send their B747 there as I would love to catch another ride with her before she leaves the fleet.

Really? CX690 (my outbound flight) had been operating with a 744 for the few days prior to my flight. I was sort of hoping for a last minute sub on the day I flew, but it was not to be.

Quoting toby25 (Reply 9):
In order to move up the tier ladder do I need to travel on BA designated flights or code share flights? so that means i can fly CX as many times (assuming not a code share with BA) and never get higher than the basic tier? Only earning air miles but not tier points?

Yes you are right. You need 2 BA qualifying flight to qualify for Bronze (Ruby), and 4 flights for Silver and/or Gold (Sapphire/Emerald). If you don't meet this criteria, you can earn lots of tier points flying other oneworld airlines and still not qualify for status, unfortunately. The definition of a qualifying flight is somewhere on BA's website.

Whether you should move to Marco Polo is debatable... I think in general it takes more flying to get to a similar status level. BAEC has 'sweet spots' where you can get most tier points for least distance. Also, I've heard that the redemption rates are worse on CX. But of course, if you are unable to clock the 4 qualifying flights on BA, then it also doesn't make sense to stay there...   

Also, CX apparently does do status matching if you can prove that you will fly them in the future. Could consider that as well!

Hope this reply has been useful   

Cheers!

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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Sun Nov 09, 2014 6:23 am

Hi Pokfur

Thanks for the TR and for the pics of W on CX. My wife flew W a couple of days ago from HKG to SYD and she didn't take any pics!   

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
Cathay Pacific uses the Skyview Lounge

With 7 daily flights to HKG and 1 daily flight to BKK, I am surprised CX doesn't have its own dedicated lounge in SIN.

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
With Singapore being recently included in the frequent traveller scheme, coupled with my BA Executive Club status, I decided to apply for the e-channel access into and out of Hong Kong. But for today, I had to go through the normal way before submitting my application. I nearly missed the make-shift booth and stepped out into the baggage claim area! Luckily there was a huge sign.

I didn't know you had to have a passport from an included country. I know you can get a HKIA Frequent Visitor card after 3 visits to HKG within 12 months and then you can also apply to use the e-Channels. I don't remember any restrictions to any countries (especially when HK doesn't require a visa for most countries).

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
From the cable car, we had some awesome views of the airport, as well as arriving and departing aircraft. Pity it was a bit hazy and the glass was very dirty

You can hike from the top down to where you take the cable car instead (it's about a 2-3 hour hike) and you can get amazing views, better than from the cable car. Plus you can just sit there for a while!

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
Wow how did that get across the Pacific??

It came in from GUM, which is about 5hrs away.

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
Unique solo seats

Those are very nice, though the tables are a bit too small to have a laptop and some food.

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
This aircraft was outfitted with the fixed-back shell seats that were apparently very unpopular on Cathay Pacific. Not sure if they were transferred over from long-haul aircraft or originally already fitted with these.

I am surprised these are still around. I flew on those seats a few years ago between HKG and PVG and even for such a short flight they were very uncomfortable.

Btw, the location of the power outlet is really stupid if you plan to charge something while you're sleeping. Then again, you won't be much sleep on those terrible hard shell seats.

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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:16 am

Hello Coal!

Quoting Coal (Reply 11):
Thanks for the TR and for the pics of W on CX. My wife flew W a couple of days ago from HKG to SYD and she didn't take any pics!   

Lol!! Glad that I could assist to give you a glimpse as to what she might have experienced   

Quoting Coal (Reply 11):
With 7 daily flights to HKG and 1 daily flight to BKK, I am surprised CX doesn't have its own dedicated lounge in SIN.

I am pretty surprised too. However, CX is the first airlines to have signed up at Changi's brand new Terminal 4, slated for completing in 2017. Quoting from the Changi Airport website:

"An enhanced travel experience encompassing self-service initiatives (in addition to check-in counters), exciting and attractive retail and F&B offerings, as well as an expanded dedicated lounge for its premium passengers are among the key highlights at T4 that Cathay Pacific’s passengers can look forward to."

Till then, gotta stick with this!

Quoting Coal (Reply 11):
I didn't know you had to have a passport from an included country. I know you can get a HKIA Frequent Visitor card after 3 visits to HKG within 12 months and then you can also apply to use the e-Channels. I don't remember any restrictions to any countries (especially when HK doesn't require a visa for most countries).

Hmmm. Well, to be honest I didn't even know of this scheme at all till a friend happened to mention it. So perhaps you are right after all! I got mine by virtue of a frequent flier card, rather than the 3 visits in 12 months.

Quoting Coal (Reply 11):
You can hike from the top down to where you take the cable car instead (it's about a 2-3 hour hike) and you can get amazing views, better than from the cable car. Plus you can just sit there for a while!

Hahaha. That's insane! Although we saw people doing it. Maybe one day I will challenge myself, but right now, I'm happier letting the cable car take me up and down   

Quoting Coal (Reply 11):
It came in from GUM, which is about 5hrs away.

Nice. Sometimes I forget that the 737s and A320s have the legs to do some pretty long sectors. We are blessed in Asia to have many airlines (SQ, TG, CX etc...) operating wide bodies only and using them on even the shortest flights!

Quoting Coal (Reply 11):
Those are very nice, though the tables are a bit too small to have a laptop and some food.

Ah I see. Just for you to shut out the world and recollect your thoughts then.   

Quoting Coal (Reply 11):
I am surprised these are still around. I flew on those seats a few years ago between HKG and PVG and even for such a short flight they were very uncomfortable.

I've read that the regional 772s and 773s (all non-ERs) have been refurbished with the cast-offs from the long-haul fleet as well, so I think it's a cost-saving measure to recycle whatever they have. The newly delivered regional A330s apparently have the new long-haul seats (non fixed back) installed factory-fresh.

Quoting Coal (Reply 11):
Btw, the location of the power outlet is really stupid if you plan to charge something while you're sleeping. Then again, you won't be much sleep on those terrible hard shell seats.

LOL! Maybe the assumption was that you'd need the plug only if you wanted to use your laptop. I suspect these seats were introduced at a time where smartphones and tablets weren't so prevalent yet. But yes, I'm glad CX has wisely removed them from (most of) the long-haul fleet sans A340s and 747s.

Thanks for dropping by!

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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Sun Nov 09, 2014 3:42 pm

Hi Pokfur,

Long-time fan of your trip reports, but first time commenter. Absolutely enjoy reading all your reports, you have a good writing style with excellent balance of pictures.

I feel your excitement with the op-up. I remember the first upgrade I received from Economy to Premium Economy on a Singapore to Sydney flight. I was so excited I called my mum to share the news. I’m sure this will is only the first of many op-ups to come.

Also nice to see you have made Emerald status! You absolutely must check out the Qantas First lounge in Sydney or Melbourne if you can. It’s one of the very best lounges I’ve ever experienced, possibly even better than the CX lounge in this report.

On a final note, did you know you can access any oneworld lounge when travelling with a oneworld carrier? Perhaps you could try a lounge run some time and see if you enjoy it. With QF, BA and CX lounges at Changi, it can be quite interesting to compare the differences. (MH too, but it’s in a different terminal and you’ve already been?)

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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:21 pm

Hello NZ!

Quoting nohohonzoku (Reply 13):
Long-time fan of your trip reports, but first time commenter. Absolutely enjoy reading all your reports, you have a good writing style with excellent balance of pictures.

Thank you for the compliment! It really inspires me to continue to find time to write all these reports when I know that readers enjoy reading them    So thanks again! And do comment more and lurk less!   

Quoting nohohonzoku (Reply 13):
I remember the first upgrade I received from Economy to Premium Economy on a Singapore to Sydney flight. I was so excited I called my mum to share the news.

Oooo. What airline was that? BA? Qantas?

I shared my op-up with my entire family group chat on whatsapp haha! Plus a few other group chats with my friends too    Thankfully they understand my enthusiasm for aviation and so were very accommodating   

Quoting nohohonzoku (Reply 13):
I’m sure this will is only the first of many op-ups to come.

I hope so!!   

Quoting nohohonzoku (Reply 13):
Also nice to see you have made Emerald status! You absolutely must check out the Qantas First lounge in Sydney or Melbourne if you can. It’s one of the very best lounges I’ve ever experienced, possibly even better than the CX lounge in this report.

I was through the Sydney J lounge in July and was impressed by it already! I can only imagine that the F side must be even better. I've no plans to return to Australia anytime soon though, but will definitely try to get on a oneworld carrier if I do!

Quoting nohohonzoku (Reply 13):
On a final note, did you know you can access any oneworld lounge when travelling with a oneworld carrier? Perhaps you could try a lounge run some time and see if you enjoy it. With QF, BA and CX lounges at Changi, it can be quite interesting to compare the differences. (MH too, but it’s in a different terminal and you’ve already been?)

Yep! I would have checked them out, but none of them were open at noon. QF and BA only have flights out of Singapore later in the day, I believe. I'll be flying BA from SIN-LHR next month, so I'll definitely do a bit of lounge hopping between the QF and BA lounges!   

Although, I was under the impression that the BA lounge at SIN is currently closed for refurbishment...? Any idea when it'll open?

I haven't been to the MH lounge at Terminal 2, but I've heard it's not worth visiting at all haha. Some people even make the trek to Terminal 1 just to use the QF lounge, if it's open.

Thanks very much for the tips and for leaving a comment! I'll certainly try to eke the most out of my Emerald status for the next 1.5 years!   

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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:20 pm

It all looks very familiar...SIN and HKG are my fav airports and especially taking that cable car to the Giant Buddha give you spectacular view of the airport. You had more luck as each time I go the Buddha is all cover with misty clouds.
The view of Kowloon from the Victoria Peak are spectacular any time of the day. The night brings more magic. I hope you were able to see the laser show.
 
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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:38 am

B-LAH. What an appropriate aircraft to fly to Singapore.  
Quoting pokfur (Reply 1):
A fellow passenger and I exchanged a perplexed look, before I dismissed the situation and used the toilet myself. What an odd little boy. I do hope that one day he is able to overcome his fear of airplane toilets.

Hehehe. My son was like that. He was obsessed with toilets (aircraft and otherwise) but suddenly developed a fear of the vacuum sound when flying a 767 and refused to do his business in one. Result: wet seat.   Fortunately he overcame his fear before our flights to Europe!
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Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:56 am

Hi WROORD!

Quoting WROORD (Reply 15):

It all looks very familiar...SIN and HKG are my fav airports and especially taking that cable car to the Giant Buddha give you spectacular view of the airport.

My home airport is my favourite airport too!    Everytime I'm there, it either means that I'm about to take a flight, or that I have come back home. Both are lovely feelings.

Quoting WROORD (Reply 15):
You had more luck as each time I go the Buddha is all cover with misty clouds.

Oh dear! It really is quite impressive. Yes I've heard about the misty clouds too so I did feel quite blessed to see the entire statue that day. Haha. Of course, I couldn't quite decide if seeing the statue or seeing the entire Hong Kong airport was cooler...

Quoting WROORD (Reply 15):
The view of Kowloon from the Victoria Peak are spectacular any time of the day. The night brings more magic. I hope you were able to see the laser show.

Oops. Must have missed that! We were there for quite a while, waiting for the sun to set and the lights to appear. By then, we were super hungry so we left after snapping the night shot. Ah well. Another time!

Thanks for dropping by  



Hello allrite!

Quoting allrite (Reply 16):
B-LAH. What an appropriate aircraft to fly to Singapore.  

Excuse me?   

Quoting allrite (Reply 16):
My son was like that. He was obsessed with toilets (aircraft and otherwise) but suddenly developed a fear of the vacuum sound when flying a 767 and refused to do his business in one. Result: wet seat.   Fortunately he overcame his fear before our flights to Europe!

Oh dear! I remember reading about this in one of your reports. I'm glad he's gotten over his fear. I used to be afraid too; I would press the button and run out of the toilet, or press the button then cover my ears. One day, I told myself "You're not going to die if you hear the sucking sound in all its glory!" and so I forced myself to get used to it.   

Hope you've been well and not getting the jitters on turbulent flights lately  

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Mon Nov 10, 2014 3:19 am

Hellooo Pokfur!

Nice to see another report of yours on CX! They still looks to provide a decent product, especially for the price you got which is indeed a great deal!  .

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
on this fateful, dreary day in class, I discovered a fare too good to be missed!

LOL isn't it ironic that best of fares are always found during unexpected times, like when we were supposed to be 'studying'. Happened to me few times too before..   .

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
My first op-up ever!!!!

Congratulations!! Haha told you your first op-up coming soon, especially with all the status you had!

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
WOW!! I've never seen immigration so crowded before!

Haha what T1 Immigration is becoming these days.. There were days where I've seen worse.

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
The simple meal tray was a standard Economy meal. On short-haul sectors, paying for premium economy only gives you the better hard product and nothing much more.

The new PE seat looks good, although it was quite a slight let down knowing you were given the same meal as Y despite sitting (and some people indeed paying) for a 'Premium' economy.

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
Although these were probably the best-quality plastic cutlery I've ever used

Ehhh... been 10+ since years since I last flew them and they still have that plastic cutlery! Agree, that was one of the best plastic cutlery I've ever seen too! Although once I used the purple-and-blue colored ones as part of their child meal pack .. #childhoodmemories haha.

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
Curtains between Y and Y+ were left open for this flight

So I guess Premium eco passengers sharing lavatory with Y cabin??


Many thanks for sharing this informative-yet-entertaining report with us here. Looking forward to see your next report!

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Mon Nov 10, 2014 9:45 am

Hello Dirktraveller!

Nice to hear from you!

Quoting dirktraveller (Reply 18):
They still looks to provide a decent product, especially for the price you got which is indeed a great deal!

Hehe I felt very proud of myself for snagging such a good deal   

Quoting dirktraveller (Reply 18):
LOL isn't it ironic that best of fares are always found during unexpected times, like when we were supposed to be 'studying'. Happened to me few times too before..   .

Lol! Indeed    Are you still studying?

Quoting dirktraveller (Reply 18):
Congratulations!! Haha told you your first op-up coming soon, especially with all the status you had!

Lol! I remember that! Yup hopefully there're more to come, but always better to leave it as a surprise rather than an expectation haha. I'm looking forward to more oneworld flights!   

Quoting dirktraveller (Reply 18):
Haha what T1 Immigration is becoming these days.. There were days where I've seen worse.

Really? Maybe more foreigners fly through T1 than the other terminals. I've never seen it this crowded at other terminals before to be honest.

Quoting dirktraveller (Reply 18):
The new PE seat looks good, although it was quite a slight let down knowing you were given the same meal as Y despite sitting (and some people indeed paying) for a 'Premium' economy.

I wonder if the cabin was actually sold as Premium Economy, or if they simply put Economy passengers in there. I think the interesting thing about Y+ is that the concept varies very largely between different airlines. In J or Y, you can pretty much expect certain things to be there (or not), but with Y+, it's really up to the airline to define it. Let's see what SQ comes up with next year!   

Quoting dirktraveller (Reply 18):
Ehhh... been 10+ since years since I last flew them and they still have that plastic cutlery! Agree, that was one of the best plastic cutlery I've ever seen too! Although once I used the purple-and-blue colored ones as part of their child meal pack .. #childhoodmemories haha.

Lol really?? Oh yes. Sep 11 happened 13 years ago, and I remember plastic cutlery being introduced partially because of it. I think some airlines like SQ have since gone back to metal cutlery though.

Quoting dirktraveller (Reply 18):
So I guess Premium eco passengers sharing lavatory with Y cabin??

Yup.   

Quoting dirktraveller (Reply 18):
Many thanks for sharing this informative-yet-entertaining report with us here. Looking forward to see your next report!

You're welcome! Thanks for stopping by. Will complete my unfinished BA report when I find the time to!

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Mon Nov 10, 2014 2:01 pm

Another excellent read! Felt I was actually there.
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Mon Nov 10, 2014 4:21 pm

Hello luv2fly!

Quoting luv2fly (Reply 20):
Another excellent read! Felt I was actually there.

Thanks! Glad to have made you feel that way!   

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Tue Nov 11, 2014 10:05 am

Quoting pokfur (Reply 14):
Oooo. What airline was that? BA? Qantas?

Qantas. Unfortunately they've now pulled the 747 from Singapore and with it, PE. I've also had an op-up from WTP to CW on BA on the same route though. Chances of upgrades on oneworld carriers seem to occur somewhat more regularly, at least compared to SQ (never read a trip report of an op-up on them).

Quoting pokfur (Reply 14):
Although, I was under the impression that the BA lounge at SIN is currently closed for refurbishment...? Any idea when it'll open?

Just passed by it and seems to be open. Not sure if its been refurbished or yet to be. Might check it out later.

Quoting pokfur (Reply 14):
I haven't been to the MH lounge at Terminal 2, but I've heard it's not worth visiting at all haha

The MH lounge I found small but functional. Certainly nothing spectacular where you'd want to spend much of your time in.

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Tue Nov 11, 2014 11:07 am

Congrats on the opup on the bound bound. Shame Y+ only has better hardware, rather than improved catering. Great that the purser took their time to greet you. I had that for the first time last week on AB back from LAX. Sadly, she didn't come with any water   I'm flying through HKG next week, so am looking forward to trying the F lounge 
Quoting pokfur (Reply 1):
From the cable car, we had some awesome views of the airport, as well as arriving and departing aircraft. Pity it was a bit hazy and the glass was very dirty.

I love taking that cable car - great views from up there

Quoting pokfur (Reply 1):

"I'm sorry," she muttered, embarrassed, just as her partner was done. Quickly, she pushed her trolley out of the way and they left. The agent at the counter smiled and waved me forward.

Urgh, some people. If she was in front of you, why did she even care what you were doing?  
Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
A fellow passenger and I exchanged a perplexed look, before I dismissed the situation and used the toilet myself. What an odd little boy. I do hope that one day he is able to overcome his fear of airplane toilets.

Poor guy, he obviously have real issues with airline loos! On a FR flight KIR-LTN once, there was a little girl (who wouldn't shut up the whole flight, and was causing a lot of grief),went to the toilet, then started screaming/singing at the top of her voice, obviously oblivious to the fact that she could be heard outside....weirdo.

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
Wow how did that get across the Pacific??

Hopped across from HNL then GUM I think
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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Tue Nov 11, 2014 1:00 pm

Hey NZ!

Quoting nohohonzoku (Reply 22):
Qantas. Unfortunately they've now pulled the 747 from Singapore and with it, PE. I've also had an op-up from WTP to CW on BA on the same route though.

Wow that's nice! I've a couple of BA flights coming up but they all look empty so I'm all prepared to sit in Y haha.

Quoting nohohonzoku (Reply 22):
Chances of upgrades on oneworld carriers seem to occur somewhat more regularly, at least compared to SQ (never read a trip report of an op-up on them).

SQ is indeed very stingy. But my parents have had some luck on them, mainly on the SIN-CGK sector (J to F) and once on a FRA-SIN sector (Y to J!). They used to get it more often in the past but nowadays, it's like striking a pot of gold.

Quoting nohohonzoku (Reply 22):
Just passed by it and seems to be open. Not sure if its been refurbished or yet to be. Might check it out later.

Oooo you're here in Singapore right now? (probably not anymore) Do report back!

Quoting nohohonzoku (Reply 22):
The MH lounge I found small but functional. Certainly nothing spectacular where you'd want to spend much of your time in.

Not surprised. Not flying MH anytime soon anyway so I'll think about when I do! I think they're perhaps the only oneworld airline flying out of Terminal 2...

Thanks for stopping by again!





Hello Gabriel!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 23):
Great that the purser took their time to greet you. I had that for the first time last week on AB back from LAX.

Nice! With your QR Emerald? Good that they acknowledge frequent fliers from other programs. I think being an Emerald seems better than being a Star Gold. I haven't heard of any Star Alliance airlines who would personally greet Star Gold passengers. I much prefer the 3-tier system of oneworld compared to Star and Skyteam.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 23):
I'm flying through HKG next week, so am looking forward to trying the F lounge

Haha why do I get this feeling that you booked a whole bunch of oneworld flights just so that you could utilise your Emerald benefits?

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 23):
Urgh, some people. If she was in front of you, why did she even care what you were doing?  

I suppose she was trying to be 'nice'... and telling this lost boy where to go since he obviously couldn't possibly be flying First Class      

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 23):
On a FR flight KIR-LTN once, there was a little girl (who wouldn't shut up the whole flight, and was causing a lot of grief),went to the toilet, then started screaming/singing at the top of her voice, obviously oblivious to the fact that she could be heard outside....weirdo.

Lol that's weird indeed!! Maybe she sang loudly so that she could drown out the sounds of the flushing toilet. Sometimes I wonder where the parents of these kids are... Wouldn't they be even a little bit embarrassed??

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 23):
Hopped across from HNL then GUM I think

Haha so I've heard! Just rather surprised since US seems so far away from Hong Kong... (I've got a 15 hour 50 minute flight to New York next month  Wow!)

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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Tue Nov 11, 2014 7:09 pm

Hi pokfur,

another great report here, thanks a lot for it. Looks like you had two quite good flights with Cathay here, and congrats of course for the upgrade, certainly a nice surprise. Great crew and service on your return flight, that's how it should be.

And looks like you took good advantage of the food offers (but then, I would have done the same   ) ...

Also nice pictures from Hong Kong, in my opinion one of the most fascinating places on Earth.

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Tue Nov 11, 2014 8:53 pm

Hello Pokfur,

Good report as always, thanks for sharing your experience. Looks like you had a very good bargain on these flights for sure, especially with op-up. You mention that the difference between Y and Y+ on regional flights is just the hardware, what is the difference on longer flights if I may ask?
 
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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:33 am

Hi CaptainRed!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 25):
another great report here, thanks a lot for it.

Thank you and you're most welcome!   

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 25):
Looks like you had two quite good flights with Cathay here, and congrats of course for the upgrade, certainly a nice surprise.

Indeed! Now I secretly hope for it for my future flights    But of course that's not a good mentality...

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 25):
Great crew and service on your return flight, that's how it should be.

   Definitely.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 25):
And looks like you took good advantage of the food offers (but then, I would have done the same   ) ...

Wahaha. What's it about lounges and free food right? I felt like a glutton after that.   

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 25):
Also nice pictures from Hong Kong, in my opinion one of the most fascinating places on Earth.

Not Singapore?   

Thanks for dropping by!  





Hello roberts87!

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 26):
Good report as always, thanks for sharing your experience.

Thanks and you're welcome!

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 26):
You mention that the difference between Y and Y+ on regional flights is just the hardware, what is the difference on longer flights if I may ask?

I have not sat on CX's long-haul premium economy before; I was supposed to next month, but well... my parents decided to be nice to the kids for our upcoming family trip, if you get my drift   

According to the CX website:

"On our long-haul flights, we’re able to offer you even more. For your comfort, there’s an environmentally friendly amenity kit with socks, eyeshade, earplugs, and toothbrush and toothpaste. And our food and beverage service includes a welcome drink and a hot towel, a selection of enhanced entrées, complementary bottled water and a wide variety of snacks."

Also, I believe you get other perks such as dedicated check-in counters, priority boarding, and more generous luggage allowance   

Sorry couldn't give a personal account of it!

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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:19 am

Pokfur!

Dude you churn out TR´s so fast I can keep up! lol. But they are always very entertaining to read so it´s ok 
Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
So this trip was the result of a very boring day in class.

Oh I have a few of those, but change class for work, I had one last week and ended in me booking a BCN-AMS-LGW-BCN flight lol.

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
"I am going to put you in Premium Economy today, Sir."

Lovely! I know the feeling of shock when you are upgraded... hmmm QR... DOH-SIN... bliss.

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
B-LAH

Blah... or LAH!

No lah... ai yoo.

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
A very young boy was seated in the last row of J

   and you sitting in Y+ what has this world come to...

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
And it tasted good too!

It certainly didn´t looked too bad 
Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
Whee! Who can deny Häagen-Dazs?

Yeah, I had Movenpick on an LX flight a few years ago, the cabin crew passed around offering seconds!

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
Zero Calories happiness

Still full of bad stuff.

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
Pleasantly surprised to spot an SQ right behind us!

Could it be the mad looking 777 in SIN?

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
We visited the Victoria Peak, as I had never been there before. My friend and I hiked took the bus up, while another really hiked up and met us at the top.

Bus? I took the Peak tram... certainly an interesting experience  
Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
There was the regular Moët, a Moët Rosé, and Deutz The Peninsular Champagne on offer

What? no Krug!!  Wow!
Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
I spent the next twenty minutes or so just relaxing and feeling glad that I had this opportunity to escape from school and blessed that I could be here enjoying this whole experience.

I know, I do the same, everytime I come back from a long haul flight I ask myself ¨when will I do this again?¨ luckily so far it has been quite frequently  
Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
Captain Candy

Sweet (pun intended)

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
Wow how did that get across the Pacific??

Island hopping all the way from HNL.

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
"I'm so sorry Sir, we have run out of blankets already,

How can they run out of blankets? shouldn´t there be 1 blanket per seat, plus some extras?

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
The boy replied in an accent that I found hard to understand. But basically he ignored my question and went on to talk about how he hated aeroplane toilets and found himself stuck inside one once, and somebody had to kick the door open for him. He then went on to ask if I could let him go first as he was extremely urgent. Well, so was I, but okay.

Finally, a toilet was vacated, and the young boy entered. To my ultimate horror, he proceeded to use one hand to hold the door open, and use the other to try to relief himself!!!   

I didn't quite know what to do! To help him hold the door open? Or insist that he close it?   

However, before I could get the shock out of my system, the young boy decided that it was too difficult to do both at the same time, and he scampered out of the toilet back to his seat without a word!!  

LOL, so this was the famous ¨incident¨ you mentioned on the previous report... LOL, it was bizarre indeed, poor little fella tho, but I understand him. When I was a kid I was terrified of lifts, I refused to go on them for fear of getting stuck, I would prefer to walk up 13 flights of stairs rather than taking the lift.

Nice report my friend, it seems that the uber cheap fare was indeed worth every penny, I have yet to fly on CX, and I really really want to sample their service, hopefully soon.

Looking forward to more.

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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:47 pm

Hello MIAspotter!

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 28):
Dude you churn out TR´s so fast I can keep up! lol. But they are always very entertaining to read so it´s ok 

Hahaha. My plan was to churn out another one tonight. But as you may well know by now, there was this Spanish guy who wrote this really long report that took me an hour or so to read and comment on, so it looks like I've to ditch that idea now...   

I wonder who that might be eh?

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 28):
Oh I have a few of those, but change class for work, I had one last week and ended in me booking a BCN-AMS-LGW-BCN flight lol.

Ah, the Garuda bandwagon. Enjoy your flight with the pretty Indonesia ladies!

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 28):
Lovely! I know the feeling of shock when you are upgraded... hmmm QR... DOH-SIN... bliss.

Lol! Why were you upgraded on that flight??

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 28):
Blah... or LAH!

No lah... ai yoo.

LOL. Stop talking rubbish la!

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 28):
   and you sitting in Y+ what has this world come to...

I know right. I've to right this wrong tomorrow   

  

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 28):
Yeah, I had Movenpick on an LX flight a few years ago, the cabin crew passed around offering seconds!

Nice! On my return flight, when R delivered my missing ice cream, she actually had a few more on her tray and offered them to passengers sitting around me.

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 28):
Still full of bad stuff.

   Like?

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 28):
Could it be the mad looking 777 in SIN?

That's what I thought too at first! But the one at SIN was a 772 while this was a 77W..

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 28):
Bus? I took the Peak tram... certainly an interesting experience  

Haha! Students on a tight budget! Besides, the queue to take the tram down was rather long so we just went for the bus instead again.

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 28):
What? no Krug!!  

Nope. This ain't Doha Al Mourjan Lounge haha. There better be Krug tomorrow though....     

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 28):
I know, I do the same, everytime I come back from a long haul flight I ask myself ¨when will I do this again?¨ luckily so far it has been quite frequently  

Teehee! Me too! It's my final year in school so I'm trying to travel as much as possible before things such as annual leave become a consideration...   Come back to Singapore leh

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 28):
Sweet (pun intended)

Haha nice one    I almost guffawed when she introduced herself, to be honest. Immediately reminded me of King Candy in the movie Wreck it Ralph.

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 28):
How can they run out of blankets? shouldn´t there be 1 blanket per seat, plus some extras?

No blankets/pillows were placed on the seats for this flight, maybe because it's short-haul? They went around offering the blankets at the start but I didn't want one then. Later on, they must have ran out..

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 28):
LOL, so this was the famous ¨incident¨ you mentioned on the previous report... LOL, it was bizarre indeed, poor little fella tho, but I understand him.

Lol. I hope I didn't let down your expectations of the 'incident' hahaha!

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 28):
When I was a kid I was terrified of lifts, I refused to go on them for fear of getting stuck, I would prefer to walk up 13 flights of stairs rather than taking the lift.

Oh wow. I think I would never walk up 13 flights of stairs lol!! Well I'm glad you got over that fear, otherwise life would be rather tough for you lol!

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 28):
Nice report my friend, it seems that the uber cheap fare was indeed worth every penny, I have yet to fly on CX, and I really really want to sample their service, hopefully soon.

Definitely was, and you definitely should! They're definitely up there among the top airlines  

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 28):
Looking forward to more.

More from you too! Thanks for dropping by  

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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:32 pm

Hi pokfur,

Finally I found the time to have a look on this report of yours. Another entertaining read, that’s for sure and good to see you were able to make perfect use of your newly acquired FF status. That said, I think CX did a good job overall apart from the faulty frew on the outbound.

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at the food of the escalator

Love the expression lol   Must surely be foot iso food methinks?

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Now I had a clear (greenish) view of my ride

It complements perfect with the pale green details of the CX livery  

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There was so much space that never once did I need to inconvenience my seat mate.

One thing you gotta love about these bulkhead seats. For the rest I try to avoid them as I like my stuff at my feet iso in the overhead bin.

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paying for premium economy only gives you the better hard product and nothing much more.

Mostly, that’s all you need?

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and I could tell that they were visibly annoyed by my fat arse.

Any evidence of that 

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That's a loooooong way to go

What a cool ride.

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Wow. Did I just have a Do-You-Know-Who-I-Am moment???

You just did my friend and you handled it well   

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enjoying my bubbly and watching the movements on the ramp

A perfect passtime!

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The Shiraz went very well with it

I was waiting for a wine quote here   

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I deliberately selected a seat in the rear cabin so that I could have a view of the wing, yet be able to see the scenery down below

My strategy as well. I hate overwing seats as they take away all the views.

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Or maybe, I am just really that short.

Could be that!

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Wow how did that get across the Pacific??

It’s the United Island Hopper, which basically starts in Honolulu, stops a couple or more of times on islands on the way, arrives in Guam and then goes all the way to Hong of the Kong.

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"Sir, can I get you a hot drink instead? Maybe a cup of tea or coffee to warm you up?" she asked hopefully.

What a good problem solving attitude here, kudos!

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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:34 pm

Quoting pokfur (Reply 29):
Hello MIAspotter!

Hello Pokfur  
Quoting pokfur (Reply 29):
Hahaha. My plan was to churn out another one tonight. But as you may well know by now, there was this Spanish guy who wrote this really long report that took me an hour or so to read and comment on, so it looks like I've to ditch that idea now...   

I wonder who that might be eh?

I have no idea who could it be...   

BTW I am from Venezuela (South America... top part... between Colombia and Brazil... Caribbean sea on the top...

But yeah, I´ve been living in good old España for the last 7 years, and I love it here and feel at home, so yeah I am kind of a pseudo-spaniard.

(No siestas tho)

Quoting pokfur (Reply 29):
Ah, the Garuda bandwagon. Enjoy your flight with the pretty Indonesia ladies!

Pretty Indonesian ladies eh... now I am even more looking forward to the trip!

Quoting pokfur (Reply 29):
Lol! Why were you upgraded on that flight??

OpUp, it was during August and Y was fully booked, and I got lucky   TWICE! DOH-SIN and DOH-BCN

Quoting pokfur (Reply 29):
LOL. Stop talking rubbish la!

Ok lah.

Quoting pokfur (Reply 29):
Like?

Everything... is just full of chemicals and artificial crap.

Quoting pokfur (Reply 29):
Come back to Singapore leh

Hopefully next year   August... (more OpUps) let´s see if I can bring the girl... I already sold it to her... she seemed interested.

Quoting pokfur (Reply 29):
Lol. I hope I didn't let down your expectations of the 'incident' hahaha!

I had none... and glad to hear it was nothng illegal LOL.

Quoting pokfur (Reply 29):
Well I'm glad you got over that fear, otherwise life would be rather tough for you lol!

I would probably have very strong legs...

Quoting pokfur (Reply 29):
Definitely was, and you definitely should! They're definitely up there among the top airlines

I know, and that´s why I want to fly them, even in bog standard Y.

Quoting pokfur (Reply 29):
More from you too! Thanks for dropping by

Always my pleasure, now I have to go and reply to all the sarcastic comments a certain Krug-lover Singaporean chap has left on my short story about a trip to Dubai.

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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:35 pm

Hello Nils!!

Nice to hear from you  

Quoting sultanils (Reply 30):
Finally I found the time to have a look on this report of yours.

No worries. Take your time!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 30):
Love the expression lol   Must surely be foot iso food methinks?

Haha!! My brain was ahead of me, thinking of all the food at the top of that escalator   

Quoting sultanils (Reply 30):
It complements perfect with the pale green details of the CX livery  

... which apparently is going to get an update soon?

Quoting sultanils (Reply 30):
For the rest I try to avoid them as I like my stuff at my feet iso in the overhead bin.

I used to do that but now I've realised I think I prefer to just take out the few things that I might need, and be able to stretch out fully instead! Normally that's just my headphones that's all..

Quoting sultanils (Reply 30):
Mostly, that’s all you need?

Some might then argue that it's not worth the extra that the airline charges    Would you pay twice the price of Economy just for a better seat and nothing else?

Quoting sultanils (Reply 30):
Any evidence of that 

I could PM you a picture of my arse if that's what you're looking for...   

Quoting sultanils (Reply 30):
You just did my friend and you handled it well   

Hahahah thanks! The feeling after that was a mixture of smug/arsehole.. Lol. Not quite sure if I would like another episode in the future.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 30):
I was waiting for a wine quote here   

But I love drinking wine....   

Quoting sultanils (Reply 30):
My strategy as well. I hate overwing seats as they take away all the views.

I wonder if it's noisier over the wing, or behind the wing? I think it's worse behind right? Engine noise i mean...

Quoting sultanils (Reply 30):
Could be that!

Hey!   

Quoting sultanils (Reply 30):
It’s the United Island Hopper, which basically starts in Honolulu, stops a couple or more of times on islands on the way, arrives in Guam and then goes all the way to Hong of the Kong.

Right.. On a 737?? I suppose there's demand but not that much demand.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 30):
What a good problem solving attitude here, kudos!

Haha the crew on that flight were really really excellent.   

Thanks for dropping by!

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Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:10 am

Hello again pf,

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which apparently is going to get an update soon?

Oh is it?

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Would you pay twice the price of Economy just for a better seat and nothing else?

Depends on what the price of Y is and what the price of proper C is  

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I could PM you a picture of my arse if that's what you're looking for...

I’m waiting 

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I wonder if it's noisier over the wing, or behind the wing? I think it's worse behind right?

Imho it’s definitely noisier behind the engine.

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Right.. On a 737?? I suppose there's demand but not that much demand

On a 737 yes. It’s a cool flight to take methinks with all those stops on semi tropical islands!

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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Sat Nov 15, 2014 8:47 am

Quoting pokfur (Reply 24):
Oooo you're here in Singapore right now? (probably not anymore) Do report back!

Yes! Was going KUL - SYD via SIN, sort of opposite to your earlier trip report. Didn't end up going to the BA lounge, was enjoying the refurbished QF lounge too much and before I knew it, it was time to board. Maybe next time.

NZ

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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Sat Nov 15, 2014 11:05 am

MIAspotter!!

 Wow! I apologise that I totally overlooked your reply! I must have posted my reply to Nils just as you posted yours! I hear you're in London today after taking your Garuda flight. Sorry that we couldn't meet! Would have been nice to do so...

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 31):
BTW I am from Venezuela (South America... top part... between Colombia and Brazil... Caribbean sea on the top...

But yeah, I´ve been living in good old España for the last 7 years, and I love it here and feel at home, so yeah I am kind of a pseudo-spaniard.

(No siestas tho)

Ah! I see! Apologies for making an assumption there haha.

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 31):
Pretty Indonesian ladies eh... now I am even more looking forward to the trip!

And I'm looking forward to your TR!

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 31):
OpUp, it was during August and Y was fully booked, and I got lucky   TWICE! DOH-SIN and DOH-BCN

Wow! Lucky you.. No PE in between to have a 'diluted' op-up haha.

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 31):
Everything... is just full of chemicals and artificial crap.

  So would regular Coke be better? Haha.

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 31):
Hopefully next year   August... (more OpUps) let´s see if I can bring the girl... I already sold it to her... she seemed interested.

Woohoo!!!    Let me know if you pop by!! And congratulations on the girl   

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 31):
I had none... and glad to hear it was nothng illegal LOL.

HAHAHAHA. Illegal?! No thank you...

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 31):
I know, and that´s why I want to fly them, even in bog standard Y.

Pity they're a bit off-course for a Europe-Asia flight unless you're talking about the slightly more north-ish countries like China, Taiwan etc...

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 31):
Always my pleasure, now I have to go and reply to all the sarcastic comments a certain Krug-lover Singaporean chap has left on my short story about a trip to Dubai.

HAHAHAHA. I think I had only about 7 glass of that yesterday....    In addition to a bottle of sake, 3 glasses of wine, a shot of vodka, and a glass of port






Hi again Nils!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 33):
Oh is it?

I thought I read that! In line with their updated website..

Quoting sultanils (Reply 33):
Depends on what the price of Y is and what the price of proper C is  

Lol, true I guess! I sort of have a mini analysis in my upcoming report of BA's WTP (which should have been published before this CX one...    )

Quoting sultanils (Reply 33):
I’m waiting 

Wait long long... as a Singaporean would say   

Quoting sultanils (Reply 33):
Imho it’s definitely noisier behind the engine.

Hmm.... Am deciding where to sit for my flight next week on a 744. I think I'll stick with slightly over the wing as I'm sure the noise at the back is far worse with those old engines...   






Hey NZ!

Quoting nohohonzoku (Reply 34):
Yes! Was going KUL - SYD via SIN, sort of opposite to your earlier trip report. Didn't end up going to the BA lounge, was enjoying the refurbished QF lounge too much and before I knew it, it was time to board. Maybe next time.

Ah nice! MH? If so you must have done quite a long walk between Terminal 1 and 2 no?

Yes I've heard about the refurbished QF lounge and look forward to that in early December!   

Any TRs from you...?   

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Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:05 pm

Quoting pokfur (Reply 35):
Ah nice! MH? If so you must have done quite a long walk between Terminal 1 and 2 no?

MH then QF, I took the skytrain. I have walked T1 to T2 though and it isn't too bad, good to get the feet moving between flights when there's a long connection time.

Quoting pokfur (Reply 35):
Any TRs from you...?

Possibly, one of these days I'll write one.

NZ
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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Sat Nov 15, 2014 6:19 pm

Quoting nohohonzoku (Reply 36):
MH then QF, I took the skytrain. I have walked T1 to T2 though and it isn't too bad, good to get the feet moving between flights when there's a long connection time.

Ah I see    I'll hardly see myself connecting through Singapore anytime soon though   

Quite tempted to take on some more of MH's (relatively) cheap J fares next year haha. Itchy fingers wanting to book more flights.

Quoting nohohonzoku (Reply 36):
Possibly, one of these days I'll write one.

Give it a go! You might even end up addicted to it   

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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Sun Nov 16, 2014 2:05 am

Hi Pokfur,

Very entertaining read as usual
 
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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:07 am

Hello SQueeze!

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 38):
Very entertaining read as usual

Haha thanks. Glad you enjoyed it! I just read your *A TR too! Looking forward to the other 2 parts  

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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:59 am

Flew with CX this year too and really find their fares very value-for-money! And sometimes, their fares are even lower than the budget airlines!!

Thanks for the report. Interesting read!
My past and future travels - http://www.ba97.com/ba97/calendar/report.asp?handle=ycp81
 
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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:51 pm

Hi pokfur,

Weird, I wrote much longer earlier this morning but only the 1st sentence got posted.

I was also asking about the Emerald status. Is it like KF Gold or more like PPS or even Solitaire PPS. If it is like KF Gold then now I know KF Gold is rubbish. Cannot even get into the Business Class lounge, let alone the First Class lounge.

I also commented that the Skyview lounge is one crappy lounge and I have access to it any time any flight when I fly LCCs (yes, pokfur, I fly LCCs too and not just SQ F, lol) . It's overcrowded and the food is terrible. Every time I think of their tough lamb with greasy gravy, I feel like vomiting. Gross food there. I never quite figure how CX with so many premium pax have to bear that lounge, which is crowded by us ANZ-toting Jetstar and Air Asia flyers. Or just wonder if they are all Y-flying Emeralds while their actual J-pax use the much better SATS Premier lounge?

And for the lounge in HKG, is that like the Private Room in SIN? Will it no be crowded if Y-flying Emeralds can use that too?

I am indeed quite impressed by the Emerald's level of recognition both on ground and in the air. It makes KF Gold feel so worthless. But doubt I will make the move to AsiaMiles yet. I just joined and studied the redemption chart. It's quite weak. It's expensive and I am not a fan of distance-based award structure. It won't be fun planning AsiaMiles itinerary because the shortest and the most direct route is so so boringgggg

And yea, I wanted to congratulate you on your engagement too.

[Edited 2014-11-16 04:53:15]
 
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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:33 pm

Hello ycp81!

Quoting ycp81 (Reply 40):
Flew with CX this year too and really find their fares very value-for-money! And sometimes, their fares are even lower than the budget airlines!!

Yes, especially on the SIN-HKG route! And if you book early enough, you can actually get normal/decent flight timings like my pair of flights here. SQ's cheapest fares are always for the worst timings   

Quoting ycp81 (Reply 40):
Thanks for the report. Interesting read!

You're most welcome! Thanks for stopping by!





Hello SQueeze!

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 41):
Weird, I wrote much longer earlier this morning but only the 1st sentence got posted.

Hahaha no worries! It actually looked like a legit reply.

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 41):
I was also asking about the Emerald status. Is it like KF Gold or more like PPS or even Solitaire PPS. If it is like KF Gold then now I know KF Gold is rubbish. Cannot even get into the Business Class lounge, let alone the First Class lounge.

I'm not exactly sure what's the difference between PPS and Solitaire PPS...? The biggest difference I can see is the First Class vs Business Class check in and lounge, and that's only when you fly on SQ. In that respect, then Emerald is more like Solitaire, but even better, because you can use the First Class check-in/lounge on any oneworld airline. As a PPS/Solitaire, you are considered Star Alliance Gold when flying other Star carriers, so you check in at whatever counter/lounge is designated for Star Gold passengers, and mostly likely this won't be the First Class counters/lounges.

I also agree that the Krisflyer programme is rubbish in general haha. You can be a Krisflyer Gold and will still be down the priority line after PPS and Solitaires, which is quite sad. I think in general Star Golds are treated better on other Star Carriers as compared to how SQ treats them (basically no extra treatment at all).

If you ask me, because oneworld has three tiers, it makes being Emerald a bit more special as compared to being Star Gold.

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 41):
I also commented that the Skyview lounge is one crappy lounge and I have access to it any time any flight when I fly LCCs (yes, pokfur, I fly LCCs too and not just SQ F, lol)

Hahaha. I know I know. It was just entertaining to poke fun at you    I thought the lounge was okay, certainly better than the truly tragic Dnata lounge in Terminal 3 that I used when i flew QR.   

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 41):
It's overcrowded and the food is terrible. Every time I think of their tough lamb with greasy gravy, I feel like vomiting. Gross food there.

Hmm it was okay when I was there leh. And I ate the food quite happily. Felt a bit like BBQ buffet standard, but edible. SQ has given me much worse food on board in J before   
Quoting SQueeze (Reply 41):
Or just wonder if they are all Y-flying Emeralds while their actual J-pax use the much better SATS Premier lounge?

Nope this is where all CX passengers will go.

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 41):
And for the lounge in HKG, is that like the Private Room in SIN?

No, it's more like the First Class lounge, where Solitaire PPS flying Y can enter - same concept. Some airlines circumvent this by having First and Business Class lounges, then naming their exclusive lounge for their First Class passengers something else e.g Concorde Room for BA and Al Mourjan Business Lounge and Al-Safwa First Lounge at Doha. Of course, our very own SQ does it too with The Private Room  

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 41):
Will it no be crowded if Y-flying Emeralds can use that too?

Yes I suppose it could get really crowded if there suddenly was a throng of Y-flying Emeralds... But Cathay operates like 4 or 5 lounges in Hong Kong with 2 or 3 having dedicated First Class sections. But yes I've read TRs where passengers couldn't find a seat to sit down even in the F lounge  

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 41):
I am indeed quite impressed by the Emerald's level of recognition both on ground and in the air. It makes KF Gold feel so worthless.

Haha indeed!! Are you a KF Gold?

I also think it's down to the airline itself. CX is apparently the best at recognising Emeralds. Let's see if my BA flight recognises me on Wednesday.. It'll be quite sad if they don't even recognise their own frequent flier member, while CX recognised me from the BA program! But I've read not to expect it, so I shall not be waiting with bated breath lol.

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 41):
But doubt I will make the move to AsiaMiles yet. I just joined and studied the redemption chart. It's quite weak.

Yes I've read that unless you fly CX a lot a lot, it's not worth it to be on their program (a bit like how if you're not Singapore based, you shouldn't join SQ's program). Earn and burn rates aren't good, like SQ's. I'm sure many of us earn the majority of SQ miles through credit card spend rather than actual flying.

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 41):
It's expensive and I am not a fan of distance-based award structure. It won't be fun planning AsiaMiles itinerary because the shortest and the most direct route is so so boringgggg

Haha! That's why I like and chose the BA program. They categorise your distance flown into different bands and convert this into tier points for status calculation. There are some sweet spots to earn maximum tier points for minimum distance, and indirect flights almost always result in earning more points.

E.g LHR-SIN in J on BA = 160 tier points while LHR-DOH-SIN on QR earned me 140+140 = 280. Total distance might have been roughly similar (i.e both routes wouldn't make much difference if credited to CX), but I earned so much more tier points on BA's program!

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 41):
And yea, I wanted to congratulate you on your engagement too.

Thank you very much!   

Anyway thanks for dropping by and rewriting your post a second time haha. A.net is a bit wonky recently on the TR forums I've heard.

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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:36 pm

Hi pokfur,

When I asked about the BA Emerald status vs KFG/PPS/Solitaire etc was about how to attain that Emerald status. Is it only by flying F/J like PPS status? Or is it like KFG which is attainable through Y-flying. Because the perks seem to be more aligned to PPS/Solitaire rather than KFG.

The T3 dnata lounge is also accessible to us ANZ-toting LCC-flyers. I thought that one has better food but yea, the place is very small.

I am now PPS but was KFG for quite a long time. But I should not complain too much either because when I was KFG, I was upgraded quite a few times too but on business-thin routes mostly like SGN, MAA, ATQ, HYD.

For mileage earning, indeed the credit cards are the bulk earners now. Just earned 22,000 miles for an India flight from citibank through Expedia while the flight itself gave me about ⅓ of that. Lucky me, my secretaries allow me to book my own tickets for business travel.

Redemption-wise, distance-based program is not fun. I wouldn't be able to redeem my CGK-SIN-GRU-BCN-PTY-HAV for cheaper than SIN-GRU. Good that my other-half does not think me crazy to create such circuitous routes and would tag along still. Next one, thinking of may be CGK-SIN-ADD-LFW-GRU-YYZ for cheaper than SIN-GRU. LOL.
 
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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Mon Nov 17, 2014 9:07 am

Hey SQueeze!

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 43):
When I asked about the BA Emerald status vs KFG/PPS/Solitaire etc was about how to attain that Emerald status. Is it only by flying F/J like PPS status? Or is it like KFG which is attainable through Y-flying. Because the perks seem to be more aligned to PPS/Solitaire rather than KFG.

Ohh right sorry. No it's based on flying and not revenue spend. And yes you can earn it through tons of Y-flying on oneworld carriers, or flying lots and lots of sectors on BA (something like 50 sectors in a year). I earned mine mainly from flying QR and MH J actually. So in this respect, it's much more like KF programme where you can earn miles from flying other Star carriers as well, whereas PPS is purely on SQ metal, not to mention only in J and F.

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 43):
The T3 dnata lounge is also accessible to us ANZ-toting LCC-flyers. I thought that one has better food but yea, the place is very small.

Lol not on the night that I had my QR flight though...

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 43):
I am now PPS but was KFG for quite a long time. But I should not complain too much either because when I was KFG, I was upgraded quite a few times too but on business-thin routes mostly like SGN, MAA, ATQ, HYD.

Wow! That's nice. Lots of    spent on SQ eh?   

Do they come and give you a personal greeting on board or is that saved only for Solitaires?

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 43):
For mileage earning, indeed the credit cards are the bulk earners now. Just earned 22,000 miles for an India flight from citibank through Expedia while the flight itself gave me about ⅓ of that. Lucky me, my secretaries allow me to book my own tickets for business travel.

Yeah the expedia deal is great, although it was very very tragic when I found out about it just one day after my family booked our flights to the US on Cathay Pacific. Could have earned so many more miles   

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 43):
Redemption-wise, distance-based program is not fun. I wouldn't be able to redeem my CGK-SIN-GRU-BCN-PTY-HAV for cheaper than SIN-GRU. Good that my other-half does not think me crazy to create such circuitous routes and would tag along still. Next one, thinking of may be CGK-SIN-ADD-LFW-GRU-YYZ for cheaper than SIN-GRU. LOL.

Oh ok I must have misread your earlier post as well. Yeah I agree that BA's program is a double edged sword in that respect. You accrue more by flying indirect sectors, but also have to spend more if you want to fly more sectors in one itinerary, unlike SQ who just looks at start and end point and you can do (almost) whatever you want in between.

Haha nice that you've found some interesting routes that give you more bang for miles. From your TRs, it looks like you're quite well-versed with finding good starting points for SQ flights. What're the best places to begin the journey for cheaper J fares to Europe and US? I only know SGN is one of them...

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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:46 am

Oh, I don't scout out flights to US/Europe, usually go to Australia ....

Ex-SGN is still the best IMO. Once or twice I saw USD 3,000 plus to the USA (by SQ!)

But ex-SIN, MH and VN do offer fares close to SQ's Y fares at least to Australia.
And I think UL and 9W too for Europe.
 
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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:40 pm

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 45):
Oh, I don't scout out flights to US/Europe, usually go to Australia ....

Oh really?? How come I had this impression from your TRs that you go to US/Europe... Hmm. Sorry my bad.

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 45):
Ex-SGN is still the best IMO. Once or twice I saw USD 3,000 plus to the USA (by SQ!)

Oooo.   

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 45):
But ex-SIN, MH and VN do offer fares close to SQ's Y fares at least to Australia.

Yeah MH have been offering some great fares. I'm not a big fan of VN though.

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 45):
And I think UL and 9W too for Europe.

I've heard that UL is consistently inconsistent also, especially as to whether you get a flat-bed or recliner on your flight or not. Could make a world of difference!

9W's good? Never considered them before, especially when they're not part of any alliance...

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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:41 pm

For 9W, it's horrible on the domestic-configuration 737 with recliners to India and then followed by their long haul which is a standard herringbone a la VS / NZ which I find quite nice. In fact, I prefer it to the reverse herringbone a la BR because no need to slot into any claustrophobic hole. But ... But ... They also have the newer staggered seats type a la SN, OS, etc and that one is horrible. It's essentially Y seat with middle seats taken out and humongous oversized tables inserted.

In case it's important to you, although you are engaged now, one plus for 9W is that they are generally crewed by Bollywood-good-looking hunks and babes. Hahaha.  biggrin 

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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:22 am

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 47):
For 9W, it's horrible on the domestic-configuration 737 with recliners to India

Yikes. And the flight is rather long at some 5 hours or so right? Maybe only bearable if it's a day-flight...

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 47):
followed by their long haul which is a standard herringbone a la VS / NZ which I find quite nice. In fact, I prefer it to the reverse herringbone a la BR because no need to slot into any claustrophobic hole.

I've never tried the standard herringbone layout before, but I thought the general consensus was that it wasn't very good and many preferred the reverse. Will try to catch one one day!

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 47):
They also have the newer staggered seats type a la SN, OS, etc and that one is horrible. It's essentially Y seat with middle seats taken out and humongous oversized tables inserted.

Really?? Didn't know that! On the A330s?

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 47):
In case it's important to you, although you are engaged now, one plus for 9W is that they are generally crewed by Bollywood-good-looking hunks and babes. Hahaha.   

Lol SQueeze... May I also remind you that you have a partner as well, as highlighted in your trip reports.    Although maybe he doesn't mind it at all...?   

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RE: Worth Every Dollar! SIN-HKG And Back On CX.

Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:40 am

Quoting pokfur (Reply 48):
Really?? Didn't know that! On the A330s?

Yes, the A330-300 will be in stagger seats. The A330-200 will be in conventional herringbone. And in the gool old days that they flew the 332s to Singapore, some swapping was inevitable. I haven't flown them regularly anymore after they pulled all their wide bodies from Singapore so not sure what the proportion of the fleet each is

Stagger seats is glorified economy seats. The lady across the aisle from me even had a horror look in her face and asked the crew if the seat would recline to bed like in the old herringbone. It's that narrow, and to the untrained eyes look like Y seats indeed. She must have thought business class had disappeared from the fleet.

For India on the cheap, I much prefer Air India. As 9W pulled all wide-bodies from Singapore, AI put all wide-bodies into Singapore. Now all 3 metros served by AI from SIN are with 787s. But their timing sucks and dont work for business travellers. Btw, they also fly you to Europe for SGD 3,000+ which I think is a good fare. Only the timing sucks on the inbound. The outbound is seamless. At one time, they were pricing at SGD 1,800 but that was gone now and I haven't made use of it although I have seen it for quite a couple of months earlier this year. One day, the fare was posted on flyertalk.com and within 3 days, the fare was pulled. Darn, flyertalk is an error fare killer.

SQ is now the ultimate winner on India sector. They reduced from 3 flights to 2 flights per day, squeezing everybody further. And it's pretty impossible to get business seats ex-BOM on Friday evenings now. And prices have hit the stars. When available, they are charging up to SGD 4,400 now. It used to be SGD 3,200 at most. And people are left with no choice. Sorry to keep ranting on expensive India fares. Haha.

Quoting pokfur (Reply 48):
Although maybe he doesn't mind it at all...?

there is nothing wrong to ogle and appreciate the beauty that god has bestowed on some human beings. Haha.

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