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Northwest? Southwest! ATL-PHX-SEA-OAK-LAX On WN

Sat Dec 27, 2014 10:28 am

Northwest? Southwest! ATL-PHX-SEA-OAK-LAX on WN

It's a long report covering 4 flights, and include some of the most fascinating places on earth for aviation fans, so better stick all the way to the end!

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Background:
My last report ended after Landing in ATL, using Air Tran as part of a ticket booked on Southwest. I used WN also flying from Phoenix to Seattle, and from Seattle to Los Angeles via OAK. On all cases WN had the cheapest offer, even without considering the free check in luggage. I wanted to fly Allegiant's MD83 to BLI just for airplanes diversity, but even this LCC was more expensive than WN while flying to secondary airports.

So after my flight from DCA I landed for the first time in Atlanta, amazed by the crowds of the busiest airport in the world. My concerns about the connection time were baseless, as both gates were in the south part of C concourse with no walking time between and my landing flight was on time. The masses in ATL:
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My ride at the gate:
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Gate map showed some storms around Oklahoma, Colorado and Utah:
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What was a first for me is to see the unique boarding process on WN flights: passengers line up, group after group, by numbers next to metal columns at the gate, and board the plane according to the boarding group and number they got during check in. The check itself is done in seconds using WN's app. All flight start to board exactly 30 minutes before takeoff, and once passenger board they can sit in any available seat. Boarding process:
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The flight was full to the last seat, with me having boarding position B03. I was worried as I didn't want to get stuck without a window for this relatively long flight, but I was worried for nothing: once I walked to the back of the plane many window seats were available, and I choose 20A. Elderly American couple sat next to me, with the woman passionately telling me about the 2 trips they had to Israel. In my seat:


Flight WN3206, October 7th 2014
ATL-PHX
B737-700, N305SA
SDT/SAT: 17:00/18:15
ADT/AAT: 17:10/18:40

Airborne time: 3:50
Gate to Gate time: 4:30 (scheduled 4:15)

We pushbacked 10 minutes late, and as we were in Atlanta, we were number 14 for takeoff therefore taxi lasted for more than 40 minutes. Eventually, our turn came and we departed from 26L:
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Legroom was fine, nothing generous but better than Air Tran:
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I used my phone as inflight map device; notice the southern route due to weather:


View over the coast of Mississippi:


There were 2 childran in the row behind me, and one more in the row ahead. I didn't manage to watch TV on my phone using WN's wifi, and I was pretty bored. After about 2 hours in the air, I realized that this will make the flight to faster:
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And to be honest – it did. I wrote some, read some, and when the plane stated descending to PHX I was very ready to get out of it. It was my first impression of the unique WN flying experience that included stuffing the passengers in as many snacks as possible ("only 1 peanuts bag? Take another it's a long flight") and entertaining the passengers (like during safety briefing: "if you are flying with a child – apologize to your seat mate"). Somewhere over New Mexico:
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Descending to PHX from southeast:
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I gave David a big hug after not seen him for almost a year, and this time the baggage actually made the long way from DCA. Together, we spent 5 days exploring the beautiful state of Arizona.

Welcome:
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Phoenix:
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The city has a new tram, with great link to the airport. The PHX skytrain gives very nice view of the tarmac, moving more than 20 meters high above the taxiway:
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The next day we drove to the Pima air and space museum in Tucson. Southern Arizona:
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On the way we made a drive around the Marana Pinal Airpark, where airplanes fly to die:
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Unfortunately there was no way to enter inside as it is a private facility. Pima museum was fantastic, the place has variety of airplanes that will make every aviation fan go wild. I'll let the photos to the work:
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Next stop was the nearby Davis-Monthan USAF base, used as the boneyard for all USAF jets:
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We had an amazing aviation day in southern AZ, and the next day it was the turn of some nature wonders of northern AZ. On the road:
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The world famous Grand Canyon, my first visit there:
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We walked on the edge of the cliff, enjoying world wonder and breathing fresh cool air. On the way back south, we made a quick stop at the local airport:
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Next stop was Sedona, about half way back to Phoenix. I admit I never heard of this place till then. On the road:
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Sedona:
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Arizona truly surprised me, I thought it will all be abounded desert, US's back yard, but I found absolutely beautiful state, with different kinds of climates (bring your coats!), mind blowing nature wonders and most important – largest aviation boneyards in the world. A lot to see an do over there.

When David and I planned our trip, we thought about an interesting place for aviation fans, and in the US there is one mandatory pilgrimage destination for that – Seattle, the aviation Mecca. Again, credit cards pulled out in WN's website, and off we went to our next stop. Beside that, I can get enough sand and sun at home, it's time for some clouds and rain.

We left David's house at 07:00, and dropped the car at a long term parking lot, and the shuttle took us to the terminal.
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PHX is built in a very smart way in my opinion. There is a road under the terminal building that put roof (therefore shade from the AZ sun) over all those arriving there, check in is right at the entrance and the airside, over the road, makes all gate in one building without the need to take shuttles or to make long walks. Drop off zone:
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Southwest check in area, decorated for Halloween, was very fast as we both had our boarding passes on our phones and all there is to do it just to hand the luggage over.
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Pre-security:
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Airside:
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D gates area:
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When boarding started I stood in my group as if I was doing it for years, and we sat on a window and middle seats in row 23:
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Flight WN1042, October 14th 2014
PHX-SEA
B737-700, N735SA
SDT/SAT: 09:05/12:15
ADT/AAT: 09:09/12:07

Airborne time: 2:34
Gate to Gate time: 2:58 (scheduled 3:10)

Taxing for takeoff, we were number 8 in line this time:
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And off we go:
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Scottsdale airport:
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This time from the air, we have a view of the Grand Canyon:
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Cabin load was very high, just like last flight:
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Flight path on David's laptop, using WN's website:
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Time literally flied, and soon it was time to land in Seattle – I was pretty excited as last time I was there Clinton was still president.




Boeing field on King county airport:
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We made a U turn, and then descended to SEA from north to land on runway 16L. Moments before landing, we flew right over the museum of flight, where we visited 2 days afterwards:
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RE: Northwest? Southwest! ATL-PHX-SEA-OAK-LAX On WN

Sat Dec 27, 2014 10:46 am

We landed, took our ranted car and drop to Puyallup, a nice city south of the city, later on we had dinner back in seattle and crashed in bed. Great country:
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The next day we had the mandatory trip to Everett, to the Boeing factory were 747s, 767s, 777s and 787s are built. Photography is not allowed in the factory itself, but only in the visitor center. The tour is done by bus that brings visitors to the largest building in the world. The first stop is the 747 line, with Lufthansa's 16th 747-8 was built in front of us. The next stop was the 787 line, were we saw Virgin Atlantic's 2nd 787 already painted and just days from delivery. View of the factory from the visitor center:
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Can you spot Air China's new B748?
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The Israeli flag is well located there!
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At the visitor center there is a small interactive museum called 'future of flight', both David and I didn't really find this place too fasenating, it's really just a place to kill time until the ture reason to visit there, the factory tour:
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Eastern 727 cockpit:
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After taking 2 tours and exploring the place for some hours, David had a meeting at Paine airport itself, and I was driving around the airport where 787s, 748s and many other rare birds are found in every corner. On the road:
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Some Cessnas and in the back you can see Boeing's partly built 787s:
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B747-8Fs:
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And look at this – at a far corner of the airport I found the first B727 built. This plane belongs in a museum guys, not to sit far away in the rain!
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In the evening, we went to dinner and night stroll in the city:
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The next day was the turn of our second destination in the city – the museum of flight in Boeing Field:
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The inside of a B737-200:
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The museum has a great verity of interesting airplanes, but the crown jowl is the airpark outside, hosting some mind blowing jets. The Concorde:
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Former Air Force one, used mainly under presidents Eisenhower, Kennedy and Johnson, behind it you can see the airplane that changed the world – the very first 747:
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The first B737:
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Inside the old Air Force One:
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Going up the very first 747 – my heart was beating probably at 140 when I entered it:
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Luckily we were there just 2 weeks before the plane closed for restoration, so we could see the original (more or less) inside of the plane:
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Unfortunately the upper deck is closed, the local volunteer told us that the staircase can't handle many visitors so it will remain closed even after the plane's restoration is completed.
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General view of the airpark:
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The first 747 was the last plane we saw in Seattle and no doubt the peak of our tour. After spending half a day at the museum, David a meeting nearby and I used the rare October sunny day to tour the city a bit.




The classic monorail – after hopping on the monorail in Moscow in May, I had been to both active public transport monorail systems in the world within 5 months:
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Talking about public transport – Seattle was the only place in North America were I saw double decker buses used for regular public transport lines (unlike Megabus, which is private):
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The first Starbucks, people were waiting there for 40 minutes to buy cup of coffee they can buy anywhere else!
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David and I decided to spend the night near the airport as we both had to fly the next day, I took the new tram to the airport were we met again. I was pretty sad to leave Seattle, I forgot how much I love that city and 4 days were definitely not enough.
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Well, till next time. The next day David dropped my off at the terminal at about 07:20, for my 09:05 departure to LAX via OAK.

Booking this flight proved, again, how WN can be the only real competitor on some routes: when I was looking for a SEA-LAX flight, all airlines had the exact same price right on the dime: $134 (109+25 for luggage), no matter nonstop or not. Even Virgin America, relatively new competitor, joined the notorious DL/AA/UA/AS club and didn't offer more competitive price.

With WN offering the flight for $103 luggage included with a short connection in OAK, again the choice was clear. I was really disappointed from that as I wanted to try Virgin American for the first time, yet it wasn't the extra $31 but this cartel that pissed me off, again, and I gave WN this flight too. WN weren't prefect either – my 13:05 landing in LAX became 13:55 when my flight was changed from a short landing in OAK and on with the same plane (flight 557) to 2 different flights with plane change.

Drop off area:
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I was the only passenger at the check in counter even though I wasn't late:
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The guy checked me in and gave me 2 printed BP's in spite of having them on my phone:
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TSA line was long, but moving pretty fast and in total it took about 20 minutes to pass. Airside:
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Welcome to Alaska:
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My ride was N260WN, and after the usual WN boarding I was at 21F with the middle seat empty. Choosing the right side paid off as I had great view of San Francisco during landing:
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Flight WN4752, October 17th 2014
SEA-OAK
B737-700, N260WN
SDT/SAT: 09:05/11:10
ADT/AAT: 09:04/11:08

Airborne time: 1:44
Gate to Gate time: 2:04 (scheduled 2:05)

Icelandair bird resting after operating the world longest B757 flight:
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And off we go:
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Flight path on my phone:


Inflight service:
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Cruising:
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Legroom:
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After about 1:15 hours in the air plane descended, and it was time to land. During landing in OAK we had a beautiful view of San Francisco and the bay area:
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We made a wide right turn and landed smoothly on runway 29. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/908/ayABK2.jpg

Now here is something which I do not understand. Why taking so much luggage on board when you can check it in for free? Isn't it better to wait 10 minutes at the baggage claim after landing then to carry it all the time and to run in panic for overhead bin room? I will never understand Americans.
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I noticed that in OAK, WN doesn't have any lounges, but seats in WN's gates have pretty comfortable chairs with electric plugs for all passengers. I bought sandwich and coffee, and sat on one of those chairs in gate 25 waiting for boarding.
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Airside in OAK – not hard to understand which airline dominates here:
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My ride arrived, this is a 1998 built 73G, still painted in old colors:
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Flight WN2415, October 17th 2014
OAK-LAX
B737-700, N714CB
SDT/SAT: 12:40/13:55
ADT/AAT: 12:47/14:03

Airborne time: 0:56
Gate to Gate time: 1:16 (scheduled 1:15)

Boarding was interesting. My group was A35, I entered the plane and the first row to the left had just one passenger, on 1C, while all others run to the back to catch room on the overhead bins. As my bag was small enough to place under my seat, I sat in 1A, with the middle seat remained empty for the flight.
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And off we go:
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We flew right over SFO:
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And SJC:
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One disadvantage – there is no tray table in 1 row, so I had to put my drink on the seat next to me, so as my row mate, what can be more problematic on fully booked flights. Anyway it was a short flight, and after 50 minutes over California mountains it was time to land in LAX:
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We are definitely landing in the right place:


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Landing on runway 24R right near WN's terminal 1:
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After landing we stood for about 10 minutes waiting for a gate to clear. Inside terminal 1:
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LAX wasn't very welcome. Baggage claim was just ridiculous – there are only 2 baggage carousels on terminal 1, but no signs to show which flight goes to which carousel. Only 25 minutes after landing, the anchorman announced that our flight is on the first one, and only 30 minutes after landing my bag was out.

Getting out of LAX was horrible. I was waiting at the bus stop, that had no seats, for the "G" bus to aviation bus station, breathing all the pollution for 15 minutes:
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When the bus came, I guess there was a accident or something as there was an awful traffic jam exiting the airport, I had to stand up in the busy bus for hour and 15 minutes to aviation station:
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At the station itself, there weren't any clear signs to direct people to the right platform, and there was no one I could ask beside the hotdog saleswoman which speaks only Spanish. Both at the bus and at the station I didn't see anyone with luggage, and it looks like the public transport option is only for local employees and very unfriendly for passengers. At the bottom line, I got to Santa Monica, 15km/9mi away, at 16:30 – 2.5 hours after landing. Welcome to Los Angeles!

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Conclusion: Southwest is something special, an airline I can't describe. It's not exactly low cost, as it sometime offer more than legacy American carriers, but for sure it's not a premium airline. Yet, at the bottom line – who cares? Southwest offer cheap flights, from major airports with good service. For passengers like me, who usually look for the cheapest offer and couldn't care less about frequent flyer miles I do not see any reason to keep flying with those big bad north American airlines.

No wonder WN had become the largest domestic airline in the US, as they simply do what most airlines forgot to do – giving a proper value to your money, flying Southwest is simply making good business. I will be happy to fly with them again next time I'm in the USA.

Thx for reading, comments and questions are always welcome. Please take a look at my other trip reports:

Farewell AirTran: FL54 DCA-ATL / B717-200 (by EL-AL Dec 20 2014 in Trip Reports)

Horror Express: US Airways YYZ-PHL-MDT / CRJ2&DH8A (by EL-AL Nov 14 2014 in Trip Reports)

Mission MD-11: TLV-AMS-YYZ On KLM + Crown Lounge (by EL-AL Oct 28 2014 in Trip Reports)

Russian Duel: SVO-AER-VKO By Aeroflot & Transaero (by EL-AL Jun 10 2014 in Trip Reports)

Transformation In Transaero? UN320/311 TLV-VKO-TLV (by EL-AL Jun 6 2014 in Trip Reports)

UP And Away! El Al's LCC Inaugural Flight TLV-BUD (by EL-AL Apr 16 2014 in Trip Reports)

Euroclass To Mideast: LH686 FRA-TLV Business Class (by EL-AL Jul 17 2013 in Trip Reports)

Lufthansa B748 TLV-FRA Demonstration Flight In JCL (by EL-AL Jun 25 2013 in Trip Reports)

Trying Israir's New Fleet On A Hop To Jordan (by EL-AL Feb 22 2013 in Trip Reports)

Small Island, Small Airline: Bluebird TLV-KGS-TLV (by el-al Sep 25 2012 in Trip Reports)

Olympic Air TLV-ATH-TLV + Visit To Hellinikon (by EL-AL Apr 9 2012 in Trip Reports)

Chasing The Sun: Arkia B757-300 TLV-ETH (by EL-AL Feb 8 2012 in Trip Reports)

A Russian Novel: Transaero TLV-DME-YYZ & Back (by EL-AL Nov 8 2011 in Trip Reports)

Indochina Trip 9/9: El Al LY082 BKK-TLV / B763 (by EL-AL Jul 20 2011 in Trip Reports)

Indochina Trip 8/9: SriLankan HKG-BKK – Perfect! (by EL-AL Jun 29 2011 in Trip Reports)

Indochina Trip 7/9: China Southern CZ3410 KMG-CAN (by EL-AL Jun 18 2011 in Trip Reports)

Indochina Trip 6/9: Vietnam Airlines VN240 HUI-HAN (by EL-AL Jun 18 2011 in Trip Reports)

Indochina Trip 5/9: Jetstar Pacific SGN-DAD (by EL-AL May 28 2011 in Trip Reports)

El Al Independence Day Flyover 2011 (by EL-AL May 12 2011 in Trip Reports)

Indochina Trip 3/9: Lao Airlines VTE-PKZ+LPQ & LXG (by EL-AL May 9 2011 in Trip Reports)

Indochina Trip 2/9: Orient Thai DMK-CEI / MD-82 (by EL-AL May 2 2011 in Trip Reports)

Indochina Trip 1/9: El Al B744 TLV-BKK + LY Lounge (by EL-AL Apr 24 2011 in Trip Reports)

Flying The Box: Ayit Shorts 360 SDV-RPN-SDV (by el-al Oct 10 2010 in Trip Reports)

Nightmares And Thefts: Air Malta TLV-MLA-TLV (by EL-AL Oct 22 2010 in Trip Reports)

EL-AL Inaugural Domestic Flight 1.8.2010 TLV-ETH (by EL-AL Aug 2 2010 in Trip Reports)

2 Countries, 1 Dollar: TLV-LCA-TLV Arkia E195+B753 (by EL-AL Jun 3 2010 in Trip Reports)

Photographed Trip Report To Northern Cyprus (by EL-AL Jun 3 2010 in Non Aviation)

Inside Israel: SDV-ETH-TLV; Israir & Arkia (+pics) (by EL-AL May 19 2010 in Trip Reports)

Special TR: Preparations For El Al Ind.day Flyover (by EL-AL Apr 20 2010 in Trip Reports)

LCC In Spain: TLV-BCN-SVQ-REU With UX, VY & FR (by EL-AL Apr 18 2010 in Trip Reports)

Y Viva Espana! TLV-BCN-TLV; EL-AL 'basic' (+ Pics) (by EL-AL Jan 29 2010 in Trip Reports)

EL-AL At It's Best: TLV-MXP, FCO-TLV (+pics) (by EL-AL Oct 12 2009 in Trip Reports)

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Sat Dec 27, 2014 3:26 pm

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
LAX wasn't very welcome. Baggage claim was just ridiculous – there are only 2 baggage carousels on terminal 1, but no signs to show which flight goes to which carousel. Only 25 minutes after landing, the anchorman announced that our flight is on the first one, and only 30 minutes after landing my bag was out.

This is a good example as to why American don't like to check their bags.
 
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Sun Dec 28, 2014 1:01 am

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
Now here is something which I do not understand. Why taking so much luggage on board when you can check it in for free? Isn't it better to wait 10 minutes at the baggage claim after landing then to carry it all the time and to run in panic for overhead bin room? I will never understand Americans.
Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
LAX wasn't very welcome. Baggage claim was just ridiculous – there are only 2 baggage carousels on terminal 1, but no signs to show which flight goes to which carousel. Only 25 minutes after landing, the anchorman announced that our flight is on the first one, and only 30 minutes after landing my bag was out.

I find this very funny.
 
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Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:26 am

Quoting seatback (Reply 2):
This is a good example as to why American don't like to check their bags.
Quoting SiouxATC (Reply 3):
I find this very funny.

Both in PHX and SEA luggage was out in few minutes, LAX was the exception. Still, I think its stupit to carry it all the time (including connecting airport) not to mention that it cause inconvenience to other passengers.
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Sun Dec 28, 2014 11:23 am

Glad you enjoyed my city and state! Southwest is indeed generally the best no-nonsense carrier for basic reliable transportation throughout most major cities in the US.  
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Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:45 pm

Thank you for sharing your report Jonathan. Very detailed and the pictures are nice. I am a big fan of Southwest as they seem to treat their customers better than a lot of companies these days.

Quoting seatback (Reply 2):
This is a good example as to why American don't like to check their bags.
Quoting SiouxATC (Reply 3):
I find this very funny.
Quoting EL-AL (Reply 4):
Both in PHX and SEA luggage was out in few minutes, LAX was the exception. Still, I think its stupit to carry it all the time (including connecting airport) not to mention that it cause inconvenience to other passengers.

I generally check baggage for this reason - I don't have to drag it around the airport that way until I get to baggage claim. Still, a lot of people don't check baggage in the U.S. because:

It can be a long wait.

Airlines are not the easiest on bags - I have had a few damaged bags over the years.

Although uncommon, baggage is stolen from the claim before the owner picks it up.

In the past TSA has stolen items out of luggage.

A delayed flight + short connection can cause checked luggage to not make it to the final destination.
 
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Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:03 pm

Amazing trip report, I would love to go to Pima & drool over 707s in such close proximity! Want to visit Seattle too.

LAX looks like a nightmare....

PS usually in the front row & other exit rows in 737s the tray table is folded inside the armrest. The crew should have told ya!

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Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:27 am

Hello,

Another great report - in this especially the non flying parts! The pictures of the graveyard and museums look very nice - seems worth a visit for an Aviation fan indeed!
 
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RE: Northwest? Southwest! ATL-PHX-SEA-OAK-LAX On WN

Thu Jan 01, 2015 9:16 pm

Quoting Sevensixtyseven (Reply 5):
Glad you enjoyed my city and state! Southwest is indeed generally the best no-nonsense carrier for basic reliable transportation throughout most major cities in the US.

Thx 767, I agree with you, but need to ass that WN aren't just basic and reliable, but usually kind and professional.

Quoting iowaman (Reply 6):
Thank you for sharing your report Jonathan. Very detailed and the pictures are nice. I am a big fan of Southwest as they seem to treat their customers better than a lot of companies these days.

You welcome. I agree with you too regarding WN.

Quoting iowaman (Reply 6):
I generally check baggage for this reason - I don't have to drag it around the airport that way until I get to baggage claim. Still, a lot of people don't check baggage in the U.S. because:

It can be a long wait.

Airlines are not the easiest on bags - I have had a few damaged bags over the years.

Although uncommon, baggage is stolen from the claim before the owner picks it up.

In the past TSA has stolen items out of luggage.

A delayed flight + short connection can cause checked luggage to not make it to the final destination.

I can see the advantages when you have to pay for check in bag or when your carry on is one small trolley, but carrying 2 large bags inside the cabin? that's crazy in my opinion.

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 7):
Amazing trip report, I would love to go to Pima & drool over 707s in such close proximity! Want to visit Seattle too.

Hey Mate, thank you. Pima is simply a must for every aviation fan. We were there from 11:00 till they closed down at 17:00.

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 7):
LAX looks like a nightmare....

Outbound, it was better i must say.

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 7):
PS usually in the front row & other exit rows in 737s the tray table is folded inside the armrest. The crew should have told ya!

There wasn't any, I thought so too. I read later on on seatguru that the first row tables simply missing.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 8):
Another great report - in this especially the non flying parts! The pictures of the graveyard and museums look very nice - seems worth a visit for an Aviation fan indeed!

Thank you again for commenting and for your kind words. Both AZ & WA are aviation fans must-see states.
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RE: Northwest? Southwest! ATL-PHX-SEA-OAK-LAX On WN

Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:35 am

Nice trip report and thanks for the pictures! I've been in Tucson for over four years now yet for some reason I've still never managed to get over and check out that museum. Guess I better get on that.
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RE: Northwest? Southwest! ATL-PHX-SEA-OAK-LAX On WN

Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:23 pm

Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 10):

I've been in Tucson for over four years now yet for some reason I've still never managed to get over and check out that museum.

 Wow!            
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Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:41 pm

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
We flew right over SFO:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/uyaKea.jpg

Um...that's one REALLY steep turn you were in to get that kind of shot!
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Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:33 pm

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 12):
Um...that's one REALLY steep turn you were in to get that kind of shot!

If the panel on the right of the photo is the side of the window, yes, but I think that panel is the bottom of the window, so it could have come from a rather gentle bank angle with the plane somewhat offset from directly over the airport.

I confess I spent a minute staring at that wondering what a 90 degree bank in a 737 would feel like before realizing the photo might be rotated.
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Sun Jan 04, 2015 8:12 pm

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 12):
Um...that's one REALLY steep turn you were in to get that kind of shot!

Apparently Southwest does overhead breaks now...

 
 
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Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:52 pm

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 9):
There wasn't any, I thought so too. I read later on on seatguru that the first row tables simply missing.

Oh! That's weird.
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RE: Northwest? Southwest! ATL-PHX-SEA-OAK-LAX On WN

Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:06 am

Quoting mke717spotter (Reply 10):
Nice trip report and thanks for the pictures! I've been in Tucson for over four years now yet for some reason I've still never managed to get over and check out that museum. Guess I better get on that.

Thank you mike, indeed you have to visit there.

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 12):
Um...that's one REALLY steep turn you were in to get that kind of shot!
Quoting FlightShadow (Reply 13):
If the panel on the right of the photo is the side of the window, yes, but I think that panel is the bottom of the window, so it could have come from a rather gentle bank angle with the plane somewhat offset from directly over the airport.

I confess I spent a minute staring at that wondering what a 90 degree bank in a 737 would feel like before realizing the photo might be rotated.

Well - this is indeed the bottom of the window, sorry if i disappoint anyone. It was great view anyway.
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Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:12 am

Hi Jonathan,

thanks for another great report about your US trip! Sorry for the late reply! WN's product looks good as usual, it's just a special airline which usually doesn't disappoint.

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):

It's a long report covering 4 flights, and include some of the most fascinating places on earth for aviation fans, so better stick all the way to the end!

I always do in your threads!  

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
wanted to fly Allegiant's MD83 to BLI just for airplanes diversity, but even this LCC was more expensive than WN while flying to secondary airports.

I have also tried to get on Allegiant several times, but it never worked out in the end.

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
What was a first for me is to see the unique boarding process on WN flights: passengers line up, group after group, by numbers next to metal columns at the gate, and board the plane according to the boarding group and number they got during check in. The check itself is done in seconds using WN's app. All flight start to board exactly 30 minutes before takeoff, and once passenger board they can sit in any available seat.

I find that boarding process a bit weird, to be honest.

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
B737-700, N305SA

I guess it was N705SW? One of the 73G veterans.

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
It was my first impression of the unique WN flying experience that included stuffing the passengers in as many snacks as possible ("only 1 peanuts bag? Take another it's a long flight") and entertaining the passengers (like during safety briefing: "if you are flying with a child – apologize to your seat mate").

Yes, that's WN!

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
Pima museum was fantastic, the place has variety of airplanes that will make every aviation fan go wild. I'll let the photos to the work:

Impressive!

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
Flight path on David's laptop, using WN's website:

Cool feature.

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
The Israeli flag is well located there!

Almost covering the German one it seems!  

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
And look at this – at a far corner of the airport I found the first B727 built. This plane belongs in a museum guys, not to sit far away in the rain!

I can only agree. Some people need to show more respect!

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
The museum has a great verity of interesting airplanes, but the crown jowl is the airpark outside, hosting some mind blowing jets.

Another impressive place I need to see one day.

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
Going up the very first 747 – my heart was beating probably at 140 when I entered it:

Not surprising - it's such a special jet.

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
Why taking so much luggage on board when you can check it in for free?

So that the luggage doesn't get lost. At least that's my concern.

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
My ride arrived, this is a 1998 built 73G, still painted in old colors:

It will keep that livery - it's a kind of logojet.

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
LAX wasn't very welcome. Baggage claim was just ridiculous – there are only 2 baggage carousels on terminal 1, but no signs to show which flight goes to which carousel. Only 25 minutes after landing, the anchorman announced that our flight is on the first one, and only 30 minutes after landing my bag was out.

Getting out of LAX was horrible. I was waiting at the bus stop, that had no seats, for the "G" bus to aviation bus station, breathing all the pollution for 15 minutes:

Yes, LAX can be horrible. Had a bad experience after flying PHX-LAX on a Mesa CR9 last year. It took so long to reach the arrivals hall after landing...well, I still love that airport.

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
Southwest is something special, an airline I can't describe. It's not exactly low cost, as it sometime offer more than legacy American carriers, but for sure it's not a premium airline. Yet, at the bottom line – who cares?

Southwest is a class of its own!


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Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:00 am

Hello J,

Finally found the time to read your story which was very nice. How cool you visited al those aviation walhallas   Also it seems WN did a good job in flying you around. The only thing I still find weird is that boarding per group thing which is a common way of working in the USA.

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
Icelandair bird resting after operating the world longest B757 flight

Oh is it?

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
I will never understand Americans

Lol, it’s not only Americans. Airlines owe this to themselves, charging for bags in the hold like many do now. This of course forces people to have many and heavy handbaggage. Also I still find it very convenient to not have to wait at a carrousel even if it’s only 10 or so mins.

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
still painted in old colors

Urgh, and the recent one isn’t any better imho  

In thrust we trust.
 
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RE: Northwest? Southwest! ATL-PHX-SEA-OAK-LAX On WN

Sun Jan 25, 2015 3:35 pm

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 17):
thanks for another great report about your US trip! Sorry for the late reply! WN's product looks good as usual, it's just a special airline which usually doesn't disappoint.

Hey PH, thx for your reply. In Southwest you get just what you paid for - and I am all for it.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 17):
I have also tried to get on Allegiant several times, but it never worked out in the end.

Hopefully next time. Getting on an MD83 isn't that easy out of the US now days.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 17):
I find that boarding process a bit weird, to be honest.

Yet I must say it do the job right. On all 4 flights boarding was fast, no arguments in line, everyone know exactly where and when to be. Can't say that I think that this system will work in Vietnam or even Israel, but in the US it does.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 17):
I guess it was N705SW? One of the 73G veterans.

Actually I messed up the regs a bit. ATL-PHX was on N735SA, and PHX-SEA was on N932WN.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 17):
Impressive!

Indeed, I spent 7 hours inside.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 17):
Almost covering the German one it seems!  

Depends from where you look....

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 17):
I can only agree. Some people need to show more respect!

And not to mention that the 727 at the museum is just another AA B722, one of the +100 planes they had, nothing special about it.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 17):
Another impressive place I need to see one day.

Oh it's a must. When I planned my trip I told david right away that I want to see Seattle again.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 17):
Not surprising - it's such a special jet.

And climbing all the way up didn't help  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 17):
So that the luggage doesn't get lost. At least that's my concern.

Well, after my US experience I know that you are saying...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 17):
It will keep that livery - it's a kind of logojet.

Really? Didn't know that. I thought WN is taking its time as they have so many 737s.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 18):
Oh is it?

Hey Nils, thx for your reply. Yep, that's 8.5 hours westbound.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 18):
Lol, it’s not only Americans. Airlines owe this to themselves, charging for bags in the hold like many do now. This of course forces people to have many and heavy handbaggage. Also I still find it very convenient to not have to wait at a carrousel even if it’s only 10 or so mins.

I rether wait for few minutes then having to walk all around the airport with the luggage and to run for overhead bin.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 18):
Urgh, and the recent one isn’t any better imho  

I agree with you one that one.
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Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:20 pm

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 19):
Hopefully next time. Getting on an MD83 isn't that easy out of the US now days.

Yes, it's indeed getting harder to get on one. But I'm more after the airline...

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 19):
Can't say that I think that this system will work in Vietnam or even Israel, but in the US it does.

I guess it wouldn't work in many countries.

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 19):
Really? Didn't know that. I thought WN is taking its time as they have so many 737s.

The repainting process was finished a while ago. Well, they have just started another one...


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Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:15 pm

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 20):
Yes, it's indeed getting harder to get on one. But I'm more after the airline...

Really? Why? Just a typical american low cost.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 20):
The repainting process was finished a while ago. Well, they have just started another one...

Waste of money in my opinion, to repaint the hole fleet every once in a white (Yes Delta, I talk about you!)
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Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos