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A Roundabout Way Home: IB/BA LCY-MAD-LHR-SIN!

Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:41 am

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Background

Hello folks! Here I am once again posting trip reports in the wrong order. I thought I had gotten halfway through my previous report, but realised that my story hadn't even reached the runway for take-off yet and I had already run out of kerosine! So here goes the next TR in line.

I booked this trip because of 2 reasons - firstly, I decided to visit my fiancée during my study break in Nov. Secondly, I needed to get myself to Paris in Feb 15. Originally, I had planned to make a one-way award booking on SQ SIN-CDG for the Feb 15 flight. Instead, I found this very cheap ex-MAD flight routing MAD-LHR-SIN-LHR-CDG on IB/BA via expedia for £371, outbound in Nov, inbound Feb 15, booked on Iberia ticket stock. A simple LHR-SIN return would cost me £635! In light of that, I made a one-way award booking on SQ SIN-LHR in Nov instead - the TR that I ditched.

I was especially delighted to also find that my MAD-LHR flight would be operated by the A340-300, a type that I hadn't been on in years, and which are dwindling in numbers in typical 4-holer (out-of) fashion.

To get myself to Madrid to begin my itinerary, I had the usual low-cost options, or BA's Cityflyer service from LCY. Strangely, BA's LHR services are sold at full Y for one-way trips so that was out of the question. In the end, I chose the LCY option, as I had always been interested in checking LCY out, and the E90 jet would be a new type for me. It didn't cost much more than Ryanair from STN anyway  

I was all set! More miles earned, more plane types sat on, more airports seen, yet all for a cheaper price. No wonder airlines are going bankrupt!   

Flight 1

British Airways CityFlyer
BA 8753
Embraer E-190
G-LCYR
Seat 12A

The day started dark and early for me as I made my way to London City Airport via the tube and DLR from Earl's Court. It was my first time traveling to LCY so I gave myself ample time. Everything went off without a hitch and I ended up arriving a full 1 hour 20 mins ahead of departure time.

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LCY check-in area

Oo this airport was tiny!! Lots of security personnel cramped into one small square-ish area made me wary of snapping any photographs, so I made do with my one yellowish photograph. There was literally nothing much to do here so I decided to head upstairs through security, hoping there would be more things air-side.

There is no fast-track security at this airport, but I was airside in under 10 mins, nonetheless, on this fairly crowded morning.

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Found a spot to sit down

Air-side, there is no lounge either. Everyone was just sitting around at the common area. I had already eaten breakfast so I simply found a seat at a corner to while the time away. Eventually, about 25 minutes before departure, the gate for my flight was displayed on the FIDS, so I headed towards Gate number 3.

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Spotted this aircraft along the way

Down the stairs I went, into the holding pen that is the gate area at LCY. My iPhone was beeped, and there was a very tiny cordoned off area for Club Europe passengers and Gold/oneworld emerald status holders. BA doesn't honour priority boarding for Silver (Sapphire) and Bronze (Ruby) members at LCY, unfortunately. There were 4 seats here, which made things extremely awkward. The boarding area soon filled up and everyone was literally squashed in like chickens in a pen, with evil eyes glaring at this young boy sitting here.   

Yikes!

No photos taken, obviously. I was more than embarrassed already!

Anyway, I soon noticed some cabin crew joining us in the holding pen, which I thought was rather strange. Eventually, boarding commenced and those who were eligible for priority boarding were allowed out onto the tarmac first. It turns out the E90 I had pictured earlier would be my aircraft!!

I was welcomed on board and went down the aisle to take my seat at the exit row.

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My seat!

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Über ample legroom here


First impressions: Super comfortable! Of course, made even better by the exit-row leg-room. But the seat itself was nicely soft and well-padded. Also, despite being at the exit-row, I still had a functional armrest. The lack of an armrest at the exit window seat on 737s/A320s is usually the single largest factor that withholds me from choosing an exit row on those aircraft.

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Watching the last few passengers board

Soon, boarding was completed. The captain welcomed us on board, safety demonstration was carried out, and our E90 powered up on the spot before self-maneuvering out of our parking lot onto the taxiway. No need for tugs here at LCY!

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Leaving behind another E-jet


The window was admittedly rather misaligned though. Lots of forward leaning had to be done

A short taxi later, we turned onto the runway to prepare for take-off.

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Holding at the threshold

Our E90 was powered up to full power... and brakes off!!!

Woahhhhhh!!!!!

I was pushed right back into my seat as we accelerated violently down the runway. Roller Coaster!

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WHEEEEEEEEE!!

Before I knew it, our nose tilted upwards and we rocketed out of London City into the cloudy grey sky.

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Check out that steep angle of climb

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Banking to the left, while rapidly gaining height still

Within a few minutes, we burst through the cloud cover and emerged into much clearer skies above   

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The pilots pulled back the throttles and we resumed a more sensible rate of climb. The seat belt signs were soon switched off and I decided to get myself comfortable with some music on my headphones   

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The elongated armrest served as a very useful ledge!   

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Beautiful skies up here

Soon, the smell of cooked food wafted through the cabin, which surprised me. As a band 3 flight, I wasn't expecting a hot breakfast to Madrid. I thought only band 4 flights got them! The FA soon got to my row, and I opted for the hot breakfast. There was a cold one consisting of yogurt and cereal, I think.

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Oooo...

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Hmm. Something's missing in here. Can you guess it?

The English Breakfast was not too bad, though in my opinion the catering at LHR is better. Everything here seemed a bit more soggy than usual.

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Getting a little frosty out there

This rest of this flight was spent just snoozing away. At one point, I did pay a visit to the toilet at the rear.

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Spot the über small flush button!!

It was after the toilet break that I had a little chat with the crew who served the Economy section. I found out that this would be her last flight of the day, and she would be non-revving back to London while a new crew would take over. That explained the set of crew who joined us at the boarding gate. However it still confuses me till this day how that all worked out. Our flight was a 9.20am morning flight, but this was her last flight of the day? She was (I presume from her accent) British. Yet she flies to Madrid, and non-revs back, while a bunch of crew non-rev to Madrid, and work the return flight. How is that cost effective??   

Anyway, while pondering the economics of BA's crew timetabling, we began our descent into Madrid.

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RE: A Roundabout Way Home: IB/BA LCY-MAD-LHR-SIN!

Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:45 am

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Ooooo. The Earth is certainly spherical

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Approaching lower and lower

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We're almost there!

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Coming into the airport

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Flare!

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Aaaaand touchdown!

We touched down with a small bump and came to a slow stop followed by a really long taxi to Terminal 4. I discovered after booking my flights that I had a T4 to T4s terminal switch. That would pose as a 'problem' as I now needed to get through passport control instead of just hanging around air side.

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Taxiing past this beauty

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Turning into our parking bay at T4

We stopped at the gate and everyone was let off. I gathered my belongings and headed out into the terminal!


Transit in Madrid

Terminal 4 was beautiful!! I had only ever come to Madrid via Ryanair, and I'm pretty sure I landed in a terminal that did not look like that.

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My immediate view upon exiting the aircraft

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Hitting the passport control lines

These few gates right at the end of the pier had their own little passport control booths. There was no where I could go unless I passed through them. Thankfully the officer chopped my passport without any question.   

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Heading towards... somewhere

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One of Iberia's A320 in the new livery which is slowly growing on me

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Uh oh

My flight, IB 3166 (plus all its codeshares), wasn't showing a gate yet. That was bad. Because that meant that I didn't know where to go. And, might there possibly be an aircraft swap??  Wow!

In light of that, I decided to just to head to the main area and find the lounge.

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Shop shop shopping! Uh, not me though.

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Heading upstairs to the lounge

At the lounge, the most grumpy lounge agent ever greeted me. He was rude, unhelpful, and gave me the feeling like I was a nuisance to him. Grudgingly, he informed me that my flight was leaving from the satellite terminal, and helped to enter my BA Executive Club number and reprint my boarding pass. For some reason, it hadn’t been reflected when I did online check in. I left, and made my way to the trains.

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A looong escalator ride down to the depths of the airport

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Shuttle station

The shuttle soon arrived, and it was a long ride to T4s. Made me feel like I was back in Disneyland taking those scary rides that go down into the deep labyrinth of some haunted house.   

When the ride was over, I emerged into T4s and was confronted immediately by passport control.

Uh oh.   

Thankfully, no words were exchanged and I was stamped out of Spain.   

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A nice memorabilia of my half hour in Spain

Post passport control, I was then met with nowadays the most common thing after passport control:

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Duty Free

It was well into lunch-time by now, with about 2 hours to go to my next flight. I was getting hungry and so was eager to check out the Iberia Lounge that I had heard so much about. While walking through duty free, I was mightily surprised to find the entrance to the lounge right in the middle of it! The pair of frosted glass doors were so nondescript that I would have missed them had I not been diligently following the signboards.
 
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RE: A Roundabout Way Home: IB/BA LCY-MAD-LHR-SIN!

Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:47 am

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Here, I was greeted by a much more friendly agent. She welcomed me warmly into the lounge after beeping my boarding pass.

“Thank you!” I said to her.

“I’m connecting on to a British Airways flight to Singapore in London. Will it be possible for you to print out my boarding pass for me?” I inquired.

“I’m sorry Sir. We cannot access the BA system,” she replied, apologetically.

Again, my BA number had failed to register on my mobile boarding pass, so I had wanted a paper one. I pondered the curious lack of integration between Iberia and BA considering they are all owned by IAG, and my BA flight was booked on an IB code issued by IB!    Maybe it’s just the lounge computers that can’t access other airlines’ systems.

As I went around the counter, a large, beautiful lounge greeted me.

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Lots of space to the right

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And similarly lots of space to the left!

I was instantly impressed! The lounge was large, spacious, and airy. There was lots of seating available, a business centre, a bar, a wine bar, a café/deli thing, and a buffet spread – definitely a nice way to commence any flight.

The right side of the lounge seemed a bit busier, so I chose to turn left today.

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Business Centre

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Cafe for your drinks

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More drinks and some cold sandwiches

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Wine bar

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View from the very end of the lounge

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A pretty IB A340 outside the window.

Initially, the food choice was rather poor. However, a bit of googling revealed that the lunch buffet would be rolled out in a little under 10 minutes’ time at 2pm. Rather late, no? But I suppose the Spanish like it that way!   

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Cold food choices

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Hot food choices

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My lunch!

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Some passing traffic...

Lunch turned out to be really good! The salmon was juicy, not dry. The chicken curry and fried rice tasted authentic, while the long beans weren’t soggy at all.   

With a little over 20 minutes left to departure, I decided to wander around the lounge a bit more in case I missed anything out.


Found this nice display case near the entrance!

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And this pot of treasure!!

Oh my goodness. This lounge knew my taste buds through and through! All 3 flavours that were available were my top favourites!!

Which to choose??   

In the end, I went for my true love – cookies and cream   

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Plus some Cava!

The cava turned out to be not to my liking, but Haagan Dazs sure didn’t fail me. With dessert done, it was time now to leave this lovely lounge and head to the gate. I nicked two cans of Coke Zero just before leaving to serve as my on-board drink.

Thank you Iberia Velázquez VIP Lounge, it was a great way to spend my turnaround time!   
 
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RE: A Roundabout Way Home: IB/BA LCY-MAD-LHR-SIN!

Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:48 am

Flight 2

Iberia
IB 3166
MAD-LHR
Airbus A340-300
Oops didn’t catch the registration
Seat 6L

When I reached the gate, it was a huge mess! There appeared to be a rather large crowd in front of the gate, and from the crowd, a long line randomly emerged. On tip-toe, I could see passengers boarding the aircraft, so I knew I boarding had begun. With much thick skin, I barged my way through the waiting crowd and found a mini queue. One by one, those who were eligible for priority boarding were beeped through, while those ineligible were turned away. These rejects then added on to the growing crowd. Thankfully, I was allowed through with no problems, so it was down the jetbridge and onto the aircraft!

A friendly Iberia crew welcomed me on board. Crossing the galley, I emerged into the Business Class section.

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Looks nice and comfortable. Certainly beats Euro-J anytime

Past the second galley, I quickly reached my seat, 6L, the second row of the Economy cabin.

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It had a perfectly aligned window!

Iberia offers a BOB service on their short flights, which explained the menu on my seat. Definitely go for BA if possible since they offer complimentary food and drinks on board, unless you have a unique reason for flying Iberia, such as the A340 did for me   

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Decent legroom, except for the IFE box which powered the…


Non-existent PTVs?

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A hot, super sunny day out there

As boarding continued, a gentleman soon joined me as my seat-mate. The flight would turn out to not be full, with many of the middle seats left open. Perhaps it would be much fuller on the return leg during the evening hours.

Soon, boarding was completed and we were good to go. The crew welcomed us on board, the pilot spoke a little, and we soon pushed back. As our engines were fired up, the safety video was aired over the giant main screen. It’s been a while since I’ve seen one of those!

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So excited to fly the A340 again!

It was an incredibly short taxi to the runway. We held short to let the safety video finish running and for the pilots to (presumably) complete any pre takeoff checks, before entering for takeoff.

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Heading out to the runway...

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And holding short at the runway entrance

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Before entering when we were ready to go

Today, I just had to capture my departure on video. The weather was lovely, and I had the perfect view of the wings and engines.

Give it a watch!

The A340 didn’t disappoint me today. The tiny engines spooled up to their super high pitched whine, then let out a raw-sounding Buzzzzawww towards takeoff thrust. We began to accelerate at a decent rate, but our liftoff and climbout was surely in the gentle range.

As we crawled higher into the sky, I got some very nice views of the Spanish landscape, in addition to the ever-graceful wing generating lift for us.

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Soaring upwards!


Making some turns

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Continuing our climb... Doesn't look like we went up much, did we?

The crew soon pushed a cart around with BOB food and drinks for sale, though they weren’t very proactive when it came to pushing for sales. I decided to partake my own refreshment   

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BOB - bring on board

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Ah ok we look a bit higher now..

Oh well since I was bored I took a peek at the menu to see what was on offer.

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I wonder if they'll look as good in real life   

There really wasn’t much to do on this flight. The main screen wasn’t turned on. There was no service whatsoever. However, I was surprisingly more than content just looking out of the window and enjoying the marvel of flight.

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En route, I paid a visit to the toilet as well and took a little stroll around the plane.

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Not as old school as I expected it to be

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The front Economy cabin

Fairly quickly, the flight passed by and the sun got lower. As we began our descent into London Heathrow, I was treated to a gorgeous sunset.

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Hitting the English coast

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With the sun beginning to set

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Going down even further

It was beautiful.

The landscape and changes in scenery and environment outside my window kept me glued to it the entire flight!

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Very low now, with the sun almost gone

Eventually, we came in to land. I captured the lovely evening light and our arrival on video. And of course, the A340 landed in its typical double touchdown style just like its younger sister the A330 does as well.

Have a watch!

And thus came the end of my second flight of the day.

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Exiting the runway

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Taxiing to the terminal

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Past the fat butt of a BA A380

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And on stand!

Took me a grand total of 8 hours to get me from London City Airport to London Heathrow Airport!   
 
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Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:50 am

Transit in Heathrow

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I found myself back at Heathrow Terminal 5 again. Seems like I’ve been going through here quite a bit lately! Arriving in a widebody meant parking at one of the satellite gates, in my case the C gates, so it was a quick train ride over to the main terminal.

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Post train ride, I headed over to the flight connection centre. Unfortunately, my BA status had failed to appear on my IB issued BA mobile boarding pass, so I had to do a bit of Gold card waving to get through fast track, which was a bit embarrassing, really. Thankfully, at the boarding pass check, the kind lady was able to print out a paper boarding pass that had my info correctly printed on it   

At this time of the day, security wasn’t overly crowded even in the regular queue, and I was airside in a jiffy.

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T5 concourse

There would be a difference in my Heathrow T5 experience today, however. It was my first time here as a BAEC Gold member, so my first time visiting the Galleries First Lounge today!   

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Up the escalators to the lounge

I was welcomed warmly into the lounge. With about 2 hours to my flight, my agenda was to take a shower, and grab some dinner.

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Main lounge area with funky horses with lamps on their heads on the left

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More seating to the right



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Corridor looking towards the champagne bar and guest services counter.

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Champagne bar

One of the few differences between the Club and First lounges include an a la carte menu, and the presence of the Champagne bar. Otherwise, most of the decoration and buffet food options were similar-ish. I decided to first head for a shower. Tragically, these were located outside the lounge so basically I got myself comfortable only to have to leave. There was no wait for a cubicle.


Same showers as the Club ones. Clinical, but functional

It had been a long day of flying with not much displacement covered. The warm shower was very welcomed to prepare me for the long flight home to Singapore.   

I emerged feeling much more refreshed, and heading back into the lounge, turning left this time to head to the buffet area.

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Hmmm...

Unfortunately, I didn’t quite fancy the food here. So I checked out the menu.



The BA burger sounded quite nice, so I found a quiet seat near the champagne bar and ordered myself one.

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And a glass of Taittenger!

While waiting for my burger to arrive, I decided to head over to Guest Services.

“Good evening Sir, how may I help you?” said the lovely agent at the desk.

“I’m travelling on BA 11 tonight. Can I check if there’s anybody seated next to me?” I said while handing over my boarding pass.

“Yes of course!” she replied, taking it.

*beep!* She scanned my boarding pass.

“And just when you want it to be empty, it’s not! It’s always like that isn’t it? The flight is very empty but the two seats next to you are taken, Sir” she said apologetically.

“Oh no… Are there any other window seats with an empty seat next to it?” I asked hopefully.

She peered at the screen, frowning hardly.

“Well the row behind you, row 36 is empty, but that has limited recline. What I can do is move you one row forward to 34A, but there’s someone in 34C, unfortunately,” she said.

“That’s fine! I’ll take it!” I replied.

She made a few quick taps and the machine next to her blurted out a new boarding pass for me.

“Thank you very much!” I said to her, before taking my leave.

A short while later, my dinner arrived, looking rather promising.

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Mmmm..

It was not bad indeed! Certainly much better in quality than a fast-food version.

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Left behind one side of the bun – gotta cut the carbs ya know?  

Replaced the carbs with a glass of Pinot Noir from South Africa, which surprised me with its taste (in a good way).

However, I didn’t have much time left to spend here anymore, so I soon packed up my belongings and headed to the gate. Thankfully, no delay today unlike my previous BA flight home.

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Elevators down to the trains

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Train station

I would be departing from the B gates today, so unfortunately no free Starbucks which is only available from the C gates. A quick ride later, I emerged into the B satellite pier.

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There’s also a Galleries Club lounge here at the B gates

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Ok so I have to confess that this picture is not of the 747 that I flew on. It was of a random one resting at a random gate. I was unable to snap a picture of the bird I flew  https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7475/15848897215_e3e5f4898b_c.jpg

Boarding had already begun by the time I arrived, so I headed to the priority boarding queue and was beeped through to board the aircraft!
 
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RE: A Roundabout Way Home: IB/BA LCY-MAD-LHR-SIN!

Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:51 am

Flight 3

British Airways
BA 11
LHR-SIN
Boeing 747-400
G-CIVW
Seat 35A 34A

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I spy the stairs to the upper deck!!

I had been looking forward to this flight with a mix of great excitement and apprehension. It had been years since I was last on board the queen of the skies. Yet, it being an old bird, I was also afraid of the aged hard product, especially in Economy.

Well, time to find out!

I stepped on boarding and handed my boarding pass to the crew member at the door.

“Welcome back on board… pokfur 先生!” she greeted me cheerily.

Woah that caught me off guard! I laughed and thanked her back in Mandarin.

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Walking through the lower deck Club World

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The throne seat in World Traveller Plus. The window seat behind it is supposedly excellent as well

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A quick snap of BA’s old premium economy seats and seat pitch.

My seat was the second row of 4 in the mini Economy cabin. A queue soon formed behind me as I had trouble squashing my trolley bag into the overhead bin. I would have checked it in if not for all the random flying around I did today. Anyway, here I was! Finally on board, in seat 34A, homebound for Singapore after a long day of aimless flying!

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Normal Economy legroom. I always travel with a bottle or two of water


Small PTV by today’s standards

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A BA 777 next to me

I soon noticed a strange problem - the cabin felt overly hot! I looked up to find that every single reading light had been turned on!

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Old school!!

And there was absolutely no way of turning them off at all! Urgh, just gotta bear with it I suppose. My seatmate in 34C had arrived by this time. 34B remained empty, as expected   

There wasn’t much to do except wait for departure, so I took more pictures.

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Nice design on the pillow case

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Archaic controller.

At this point, I ran out of things to do so I simply sat there and stoned. Thankfully, boarding was completed not long later, and the doors were closed. Our captain welcomed us all on board, and we soon pushed back for departure while the safety video was aired.

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On the way to the runway

There was quite a queue for takeoff, but we eventually reached the front for our turn!

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But first, the A320 heads off

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Entering the runway

Without further ado, our mighty 747 roared to life and thundered down the runway!

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That's T5 going by!

I knew the 747 had a tendency to vibrate upon rotation, but our 747 rattled and vibrated and shook so loudly for a good 5 seconds as we took to the skies. If I hadn’t known better, I might have thought something bad was happening!

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Shuddering into the sky

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And climbing around of Heathrow!

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Some beautiful lights down there

As we climbed higher into the sky, the seat belt signs were switched off. Soon, the cabin crew came around offering us some drinks to start with.

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Orange Juice and a cup of water for me

Once the drinks run was done, they repeated the service again, this time handing out food. Today my aisle was served by a rather no-nonsense flight attendant. She wasn't very friendly, but this was Economy and I wasn't expecting much more.

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Food tray

I was very surprised to find that we were served a proper napkin and metal cutlery. Having flown WTP just a month ago, I had thought that the napkin and metal cutlery were features of premium economy. Seems like the only real difference is just the main course then.

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Same starter as in WTP a month ago - weird-tasting and I didn't eat it

I chose the chicken with rice for the main course. However, it turned out to be Thai chicken with rice i.e spicy!!

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But it tasted good...

The chocolate mousse dessert was also the same as what I had one month ago. At this point in time, I was thankful for lounge access to have a proper dinner before the flight. I probably would have been left hungry if plane food was all I got. During dinner and after dinner, I had put on a couple of movies and TV shows to keep myself entertained. The IFE had a surprisingly wide range of entertainment available. It was also incredibly responsive. So other than the screen quality and size, it was actually quite a good system overall. Using my own headphones made everything even better - I had no complaints.

I soon got quite tired and reclined my seat to rest. I was afraid that the headrest wings would be old and useless, but was pleasantly surprised at their clever design. Instead of the sides folding inwards, they folded downwards. Inward folding headrests have a tendency to flatten back out as you lean on them, rendering them useless. However, these downward folding wings became fixed in place once folded down. It was actually quite comfortable!

The only problem was... 80% of the cabin did not turn off their reading lights!!   

I wondered if it was BA's SOP to leave reading lights on for passengers to turn off if not needed, but I've since found out that this flight was probably an isolated case and that reading lights are normally kept off for passengers to turn on if needed. Nonetheless, I had fitful sleep that night purely because of this  

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The sun rising

I continued snoozing for most of the flight, occasionally looking out of the window for any activity. I caught the sun rising as we slowly headed South-East.

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Now getting brighter..

I headed to the galley a couple of times to get water and use the toilets. The cabin crew, however, were happier just chatting to each other (rather loudly) and generally ignored passengers unless they requested something.

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Nice old toilet

Soon, it became nice and bright outside, and I was fully awake. I kept my window half open to let in some natural light.

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Sunshine!

With less than 2 hours to go, the crew began preparations for breakfast. I went for the classic English breakfast.

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Ah. Back to paper napkins and plastic cutlery

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So, what's the difference between this English breakfast and the one served on my Madrid flight?

Breakfast was good.   

Our trays were cleared soon after, and I made a final visit to the toilet before we began our descent into Singapore.

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View of our mini Economy cabin

Our captain announced our descent into Singapore. Apparently it would be rather cloudy down below.

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Descending

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The large clouds starting to appear

You know how sometimes during descent, it's all peaceful and quiet and floaty because the engines are at idle, the plane is gently losing speed and height... Then suddenly, you enter the clouds, and wham! Turbulence non-stop!!!

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We jiggled and bounced about in the thick clouds for an immensely long time. Our flaps extended, wheels came out, and still I couldn't see anything! I thought such low clouds only existed in cold, foggy countries.

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Some brutal rain over the Bedok area

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That looks nasty!!

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We began to have lots of condensation over our wings as we continued our descent, so I switched to video mode as I found this quite interesting. Doesn't happen often in Singapore!

See the video here!

The 747 landed nice and gently on the runway. Watch the wings sag with relief as weight is transferred to the wheels!

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Welcome to Changi Airport!

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Humidity causing instant condensation outside

We taxied leisurely to our parking bay at Terminal 1 where we docked next to an Emirates A380.

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Finally, I was home!!

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Bye bye pretty bird!

Conclusion

Phew! What a day of flying! While not the first time doing an ex-EU trip, this trip was especially memorable because of many reasons: First time in LCY, first time on the E90, first time at MAD T4(s), first time on Iberia, first time in Galleries First lounge. But most importantly, the chance to fly on the old quads the A340 and 747. All this made even more worth it because I paid less than a direct flight would cost! Having said that, I had to nurse an aching back ache the next day.

Yikes, I'm getting old.

Or overly pampered   

Till the next time, here's wishing everyone a Happy New Year and Safe Travels!!

pokfur




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RE: A Roundabout Way Home: IB/BA LCY-MAD-LHR-SIN!

Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:12 pm

Hi porkfur!

Nice report first of all.
What I liked was the flight from LCY to MAD, impressive that they serve a full hot breakfast on that route in economy, many don't even serve that much in business these days...
Also nice you got the big bird to LHR, but the seats don't look too good, especially the lack of PTVs is quite annoying, isn't it ?
Flight to SIN looks OK as well, catering on BA seems to be good, but the seats are meanwhile a bit outdated.

greetings
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RE: A Roundabout Way Home: IB/BA LCY-MAD-LHR-SIN!

Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:20 pm

Nice report, pokfur!

Great photos from your flights. I like the shots of the Madrid terminal; very striking!

Quoting pokfur (Reply 5):
I wondered if it was BA's SOP to leave reading lights on for passengers to turn off if not needed, but I've since found out that this flight was probably an isolated case and that reading lights are normally kept off for passengers to turn on if needed. Nonetheless, I had fitful sleep that night purely because of thi

This is one of the biggest annoyances with traveling on overnight flights. When most of the cabin is dark, you're always near someone who has a light on, or in your instance, have most of the cabin lit up. Frustrating!

Thanks for sharing.

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RE: A Roundabout Way Home: IB/BA LCY-MAD-LHR-SIN!

Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:40 pm

Hello Elias!

Quoting emek96 (Reply 6):
Nice report first of all.

Thanks! Hope you enjoyed it  

Quoting emek96 (Reply 6):
What I liked was the flight from LCY to MAD, impressive that they serve a full hot breakfast on that route in economy, many don't even serve that much in business these days...

Yeah. I flew AF from CDG-NAP recently and what they served on board was LCC-esq. BA is really not bad in the short-haul side.

Quoting emek96 (Reply 6):
Also nice you got the big bird to LHR, but the seats don't look too good, especially the lack of PTVs is quite annoying, isn't it ?

Ok for a short flight, which is what you would get (or not get) on a narrow body anyway. But I would think it'll be much more torturous when flying long-haul without PTVs!

Quoting emek96 (Reply 6):
Flight to SIN looks OK as well, catering on BA seems to be good, but the seats are meanwhile a bit outdated.

I'll be flying the new BA Y seats on the A380 only next year so I can only make a proper comparison then. But objectively, these seats weren't too bad overall. I particularly liked the design of the headrest which made sleeping much more bearable/possible.

Thanks for dropping by!



Hello Matthew!

Quoting 767747 (Reply 7):
Nice report, pokfur!

Thank you too!!

Quoting 767747 (Reply 7):
Great photos from your flights. I like the shots of the Madrid terminal; very striking!

Lots of natural sunlight streaming in made for good pictures!

Quoting 767747 (Reply 7):
This is one of the biggest annoyances with traveling on overnight flights. When most of the cabin is dark, you're always near someone who has a light on, or in your instance, have most of the cabin lit up. Frustrating!

Indeed! Of course some will argue that eyeshades exist for a reason, but I generally cannot sleep with something on my face (even putting face cream or moisturiser annoys me). Sigh but I've since gotten myself a comfortable pair and have used them on subsequent flights with limited success. I think the torture from the bright lights was more than the discomfort of the eyeshades!

Quoting 767747 (Reply 7):
Thanks for sharing.

You're most welcome. Thanks for stopping by!

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RE: A Roundabout Way Home: IB/BA LCY-MAD-LHR-SIN!

Sat Jan 03, 2015 4:03 pm

Hi pokfur,

Fascinating report and really interesting to see the difference between BA and IB. I'm yet to try Iberia and am hoping to be able to try the A340 for myself which so far has managed to evade me!

Looking forward to your comparison with the A380 seats too!

Best wishes,

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RE: A Roundabout Way Home: IB/BA LCY-MAD-LHR-SIN!

Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:18 pm

Hello BAWairbus!

Quoting BAWairbus (Reply 9):
Fascinating report and really interesting to see the difference between BA and IB. I'm yet to try Iberia and am hoping to be able to try the A340 for myself which so far has managed to evade me!

Oh no! Generally there's at least one A340 flight between MAD and LHR daily. I think I got lucky that there was no equipment swap on my day of travel! Having said that, I booked my flight only about a month in advance so maybe scheduling was already more or less fixed by then?

Quoting BAWairbus (Reply 9):
Looking forward to your comparison with the A380 seats too!

That'll be at the end of next month only though! Haha. I look forward to that flight greatly though!

Quoting BAWairbus (Reply 9):
Best wishes,

Cheers to you too!

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RE: A Roundabout Way Home: IB/BA LCY-MAD-LHR-SIN!

Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:29 pm

First thing first...is it me or is this report less alcohol-soaked than some of your previous ones? Oh dear what's happening to you?

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
Our E90 was powered up to full power... and brakes off!!!

Woahhhhhh!!!!!

Back then when Air Canada used to fly E90 YVR-LAX, I found it a comfortable ride in general. Can't say the same about the replacement, which is Air Canada Rouge A319, mainly due to the 29" pitch.

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
Check out that steep angle of climb

Actually not as steep as what I experienced LAX-SAN in a CRJ200. Captain apologized for being stuck in the line up for 25 minutes "because, you know, it's LAX." then we basically shot into the sky like a bloody rocket which left us flailing in the seats. There were only 5 of us pax so I supposed the pilots were having fun.

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
Hmm. Something's missing in here. Can you guess it?

I don't care if the lycopene is missing. Give it to me.

Quoting pokfur (Reply 2):
In the end, I went for my true love – cookies and cream

...why didn't you take all 3?

Quoting pokfur (Reply 3):
Took me a grand total of 8 hours to get me from London City Airport to London Heathrow Airport!  

Only aviation enthusiasts would do such a thing. Everyone else would be guessing you have lost your marbles.

Quoting pokfur (Reply 4):
Main lounge area with funky horses with lamps on their heads on the left

Marginally more logical than teddy bears with lamps on their heads?  
Quoting pokfur (Reply 4):
Left behind one side of the bun – gotta cut the carbs ya know? 

You've managed to avoid consuming all the vegetables, I see.

Quoting pokfur (Reply 5):
Same starter as in WTP a month ago - weird-tasting and I didn't eat it

That looks a bit revolting. What is it exactly?

Quoting pokfur (Reply 5):
Bye bye pretty bird!

Them 747s might be old school now but I still love them. Kept thinking that's the very first widebody type I've flown in as a wee one, but I was later proven wrong. Whatever. Give me a 747 over anything else, any day.

Quoting pokfur (Reply 5):
Yikes, I'm getting old.

Or overly pampered   

So, SO spoiled. Tsk tsk. How about you do some serious flying in North America in Y Class? I can guarantee you'd need to be wheeled off the plane at the end of it.   
 
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RE: A Roundabout Way Home: IB/BA LCY-MAD-LHR-SIN!

Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:06 am

Hello Hello CdnCactus!

Fancy meeting you here  

Quoting CdnCactus (Reply 11):
First thing first...is it me or is this report less alcohol-soaked than some of your previous ones? Oh dear what's happening to you?

LOL. Very funny.

Generally, alcohol in Economy class isn't the best so I tend not to order them. I did get some in the lounges though! Sampled several red wines from the wine bar at Madrid, and got myself a glass of champagne and wine each at Heathrow!   

Quoting CdnCactus (Reply 11):
Back then when Air Canada used to fly E90 YVR-LAX, I found it a comfortable ride in general. Can't say the same about the replacement, which is Air Canada Rouge A319, mainly due to the 29" pitch.

I enjoyed the E90 thoroughly! AC Rouge sure sounds horrible. I think the closest I've got to 29" pitch is on Jetstar Asia. I'm flying them at the end of this month so I'll let you know again! Doubt I'll bother with a TR though...

Quoting CdnCactus (Reply 11):
Actually not as steep as what I experienced LAX-SAN in a CRJ200. Captain apologized for being stuck in the line up for 25 minutes "because, you know, it's LAX." then we basically shot into the sky like a bloody rocket which left us flailing in the seats. There were only 5 of us pax so I supposed the pilots were having fun.

LOL. 5 of you? What a flight! I generally don't like any aircraft smaller than a 737/320. Not sure how they'd do in turbulence   

Quoting CdnCactus (Reply 11):
I don't care if the lycopene is missing. Give it to me.

Hahaha. I had to google what a lycopene is but yes you're absolutely right! Couldn't you have just stuck with tomato??

Quoting CdnCactus (Reply 11):
...why didn't you take all 3?

Because I'm fat   

Quoting CdnCactus (Reply 11):
Only aviation enthusiasts would do such a thing. Everyone else would be guessing you have lost your marbles.

Indeed!! Thankfully my fiancée fully understands me. Of course it helped when I told her I was actually saving money this way. I didn't bother trying to explain to my family though. They thought I was flying directly home from London, which I sort of was, eventually   

Quoting CdnCactus (Reply 11):
Marginally more logical than teddy bears with lamps on their heads?  

LOL good one! I had forgotten about that teddy! Here's a better picture of the horses taken from another trip haha.

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Quoting CdnCactus (Reply 11):
You've managed to avoid consuming all the vegetables, I see.

Yes, mummy  

Quoting CdnCactus (Reply 11):
That looks a bit revolting. What is it exactly?

No idea but I think it has a bit of curry and mayo in it. Some sort of salad dressing.   

Quoting CdnCactus (Reply 11):
Them 747s might be old school now but I still love them. Kept thinking that's the very first widebody type I've flown in as a wee one, but I was later proven wrong. Whatever. Give me a 747 over anything else, any day.

When I was young, the 747 was all I flew. SQ had tons of them! Even on the shortest sectors such as SIN-CGK, we would be on a 747! Back then, as a child, my parents would let me sit in the upper deck or in the nose with them (probably cheapo child fares or redemptions). I still have vague images of those flights in my head. Good times...   

Glad to know that the 747 is your favourite widebody! Go catch some before they're all gone! I think for me, the A340 is still my favourite  

Quoting CdnCactus (Reply 11):
So, SO spoiled. Tsk tsk.

Rude.

  

Quoting CdnCactus (Reply 11):
How about you do some serious flying in North America in Y Class? I can guarantee you'd need to be wheeled off the plane at the end of it.  

In North America? Well I recently flew jetblue and Southwest last month and I was very surprised at how comfortable they were. Jetblue had insane amount of legroom!! Both airlines had more legroom than my BA 13 hour flight    I think flying to North America (or even South) from Singapore in Y would be the real challenge   

Hahaha. Moving ahead though as I start traveling even more on my own, I foresee such a scenario happening  

Sigh

pokfur.
 
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RE: A Roundabout Way Home: IB/BA LCY-MAD-LHR-SIN!

Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:39 pm

Hi Pokfur!

Another great trip report. That B744 certainly had dated interior compared to their newer product. At least the curry looked yummy!

Happy New Year to you too!

I'll be sure to catch up with you sometime soon.

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RE: A Roundabout Way Home: IB/BA LCY-MAD-LHR-SIN!

Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:55 pm

Ha! Yer mental doing that flying before going to SIN!! I'd be wrecked!

LCY looks like loads of fun to take off and land at.

And you got the IB A340...I really have to figure out that schedule & do that flight! The J cabin on the 340 looks really small...if you are in row 6 in Y already? But I thought that A340 was going to drive all the way to England! 1:20 before lift off! And like VY they play music on take off aswell....I just think that's weird...enjoyable....but weird.

I flew BA 747 to HKG in 2011. I was right down the back, no WTP for me! The A/C was so old, and it was me first 747!! I was so uncomfortable. And sitting right down the back...holy crap it swayed from side to side so much on take off, like being inside a dogs tail! I enjoyed the free booze though. My crew were very good, bit of a mixed bunch that you got.

Enjoy home!
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Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:51 pm

Hey Joey!

Quoting Joeytaffy93 (Reply 13):
Another great trip report. That B744 certainly had dated interior compared to their newer product. At least the curry looked yummy!

Thank you! Yup it was certainly older, but surprisingly still very comfortable and despite the small screens had a more than decent IFE system. Wouldn't hesitate to fly the 747s again!

Quoting Joeytaffy93 (Reply 13):
I'll be sure to catch up with you sometime soon.

Thanks for dropping by  




Hello aerdingus!

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 14):
Ha! Yer mental doing that flying before going to SIN!! I'd be wrecked!

Haha! I was quite tired by the time I got home! Not to mention I had a sore back...

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 14):
And you got the IB A340...I really have to figure out that schedule & do that flight!

Maybe... book as late as possible? I think I got lucky that they didn't do an equipment swap at the last minute.

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 14):
The J cabin on the 340 looks really small...if you are in row 6 in Y already?

Just 4 rows of J. Y started at row 5.

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 14):
But I thought that A340 was going to drive all the way to England! 1:20 before lift off! And like VY they play music on take off aswell....I just think that's weird...enjoyable....but weird.

Hahaha! When our nose started to tilt, I was like   ! It's funny how I normally don't notice the music when I'm actually there, but it becomes so much more prominent when I'm viewing the video. You're right that it's interesting...

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 14):
And sitting right down the back...holy crap it swayed from side to side so much on take off, like being inside a dogs tail!

I've heard that it does that down the back, which is why I made it a point to get seats nearer the front. I experienced similar on the A380 when I was at the rear cabin and it was really quite scary. We bounced and wagged and squeaked so much!

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 14):
My crew were very good, bit of a mixed bunch that you got.

I had much better crew on my next BA flight, so yeah, just a bit of luck there I suppose.

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 14):
Enjoy home!

Thank you! And thanks for stopping by!

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Tue Jan 06, 2015 4:33 am

Hello again, Happy New Year to you! Nice to start the New Year with a good read.  
Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
Here I am once again posting trip reports in the wrong order

Ok, I will be appreciating each and each one in isolation. I am lost liao with your so many SIN-LHRs like my Ang Mo Kio - City Hall trips.

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
Originally, I had planned to make a one-way award booking on SQ SIN-CDG for the Feb 15 flight.

Hehe, I am on the Feb 14 flight SIN-CDG.  
Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
Terminal 4 was beautiful!!

Indeed, one of the best looking out there. The other one that keeps me jaw-dropped everytime I pass through is Mumbai.

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
Thankfully, no words were exchanged and I was stamped out of Spain.

Why? I had come in and out of Spain in the same day too. I went to Europe one January, but missed getting my VAT refund due to long queue. So 2 months after that, I happened to go to Brazil. With a single SQ 68 boarding pass that said GRU-SIN, I checked in and out of Spain (BCN). I had difficulty entering back the secure area because my boarding pass was not issued in BCN, had to plead with SQ staff to escort me in. Not to mention, it was very mad rush and stressful because the VAT refund queue was just as long and I only had 1.5 hours from touch down to deaprture to do everything. Plus still had to plead with the customs officer to give me the stamp because my boarding pass was not BCN-issued and was dated the day before in Sao Paulo.

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
Unfortunately, I didn’t quite fancy the food here. So I checked out the menu.

Phew, for awhile I though you would be eating the Singapore chicken with hydrogen sulphide like last time. Better not eat such things anymore.

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
“Welcome back on board… pokfur 先生!” she greeted me cheerily.

Woah that caught me off guard! I laughed and thanked her back in Mandarin.

I presumed she was caucasian? Do they have asian FAs btw?

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
I chose the chicken with rice for the main course. However, it turned out to be Thai chicken with rice i.e spicy!!

Looks good.

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
So, what's the difference between this English breakfast and the one served on my Madrid flight?

Breakfast was good.

Looks good too.

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
Some brutal rain over the Bedok area

I like this kind of scene - so grand and powerful. I am weird indeed. I was happy to spend a weekend in Bali looking at thunderstorms while the partner complained that it rained and rained and rained with no possiblity to get out and tan.

Anyway, thanks

and hope to read more from you. What is next? Paris ah?
 
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Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:43 pm

Hello SQueeze!

Haven't seen you in a while!

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 16):
Nice to start the New Year with a good read.

Hehe thanks for the compliment! Happy New Year to you too!

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 16):
Ok, I will be appreciating each and each one in isolation. I am lost liao with your so many SIN-LHRs like my Ang Mo Kio - City Hall trips.

Lolz. The next one is yet another SIN-LHR(-CDG). I'm getting a bit boring right?   

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 16):
Hehe, I am on the Feb 14 flight SIN-CDG.  

Oooo. Suites?   

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 16):
Indeed, one of the best looking out there. The other one that keeps me jaw-dropped everytime I pass through is Mumbai.

Hmm... India isn't the top of my to-visit list but I'll keep that in mind! Maybe transit through there some day haha!

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 16):
Why?

I'm not quite sure what your 'why' refers to. Is it why I didn't get asked any questions? I've no idea. I even remember that he didn't bother looking at my boarding pass when stamping me out. A point to note is that I didn't actually have to clear security again - maybe there's the difference between your experience and mine?

Subsequent to this flight I had to do something similar in Frankfurt as well. This time the officer did ask questions but I told him I had to collect my bags and recheck in for a different flight as they were on separate tickets. He asked to see the onward ticket, then let me through. I suppose it's not that uncommon.

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 16):
Phew, for awhile I though you would be eating the Singapore chicken with hydrogen sulphide like last time. Better not eat such things anymore.

Haha! If they make me smarter and more successful, I will   

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 16):
I presumed she was caucasian? Do they have asian FAs btw?

No, she was Asian. Still caught me by surprise though. And that naturally answers your second question. So far on my 3 flights between London and Singapore I've always seen a few (not just 1) asian FAs on the flights so I think they make a conscious effort to employ them on this route. The FA serving my aisle was also asian, but a different one from that at the door.

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 16):
I like this kind of scene - so grand and powerful. I am weird indeed. I was happy to spend a weekend in Bali looking at thunderstorms while the partner complained that it rained and rained and rained with no possiblity to get out and tan.
Get out and tan?! Aiyo you and your partner ah...    I think I should meet you sometime HAHA!

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 16):
What is next? Paris ah?

Wow you got it right! Paris indeed! Haha. It's done already. I'll post it up soon  

Thanks for stopping by!!

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Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:58 pm

Hi pokfur, Thanks for a glimpse into the future, I'm looking at doing Madrid this summer, out on BA from LCY and back to LHR on the IB A340. I've only flown BA CityFlyer once from EDI-LCY, but I was mega impressed with the service, like you I got a hot breakfast.
I don't get the BA MAD Fares ex LHR, it's all a bit random, I seem to recall when I was looking myself that Im going to have to buy the IB MAD-LHR Leg on BA as iberia wanted €700, but through BA it's substantialy cheaper.
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Wed Jan 07, 2015 1:49 am

Hey Shuttle12T!

Quoting Shuttle12T (Reply 18):
out on BA from LCY and back to LHR on the IB A340.

Exactly the same itinerary then!!  Wow!

Quoting Shuttle12T (Reply 18):
I've only flown BA CityFlyer once from EDI-LCY, but I was mega impressed with the service, like you I got a hot breakfast.

Interestingly, I think BA serves hot breakfast on their early morning domestic services but not on international sectors. To entice travellers to fly them instead of easyjet perhaps?

Quoting Shuttle12T (Reply 18):
I don't get the BA MAD Fares ex LHR, it's all a bit random, I seem to recall when I was looking myself that Im going to have to buy the IB MAD-LHR Leg on BA as iberia wanted €700, but through BA it's substantialy cheaper.

Really?? For some reason LHR-MAD is one of the only destinations that aren't discounted when bought as a one-way ticket. When I was looking for my positioning flight, there was no difference between the IB and BA website in terms of prices. I had no choice but to go with LCY, or low-cost carriers. Lucky you I think!!   

I look forward to reading your report!

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Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:18 am

Quoting pokfur (Reply 17):
Lolz. The next one is yet another SIN-LHR(-CDG). I'm getting a bit boring right?

You have very good talent in writing with lots of humour. So I am sure it won't be boring.

Quoting pokfur (Reply 17):
Oooo. Suites?

:D    like to be boxed in indeed. Lol

Quoting pokfur (Reply 17):
Hmm... India isn't the top of my to-visit list but I'll keep that in mind! Maybe transit through there some day haha!

Yea, I am looking at Oslo-Bangkok via CDG and BOM on Jet website, it's less tty good deal I think. May be similar ex-Dublin. ex-London is expensive I am sure. But make sure use multi-city booking and force connection through Mumbai. Delhi is such a dump. Am posting one trip report on India soon. There you can see Mumbai.

Quoting pokfur (Reply 17):
Get out and tan?! Aiyo you and your partner ah... I think I should meet you sometime HAHA!

I don't like sun. Meet in Suites better.  
Quoting pokfur (Reply 17):
Wow you got it right! Paris indeed! Haha. It's done already. I'll post it up soon

Eh, i thought Paris is only next month? See, now I am confused! Too many shuttles, you.
 
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Wed Jan 07, 2015 6:41 am

Hello SQueeze!

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 20):
You have very good talent in writing with lots of humour. So I am sure it won't be boring.

Haha thanks for the compliment! I'll try my best to make it entertaining  

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 20):
:D    like to be boxed in indeed. Lol

Go sit in the cargo hold, you...    Do write a TR and try not to sound too smug in it ok?   

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 20):
Yea, I am looking at Oslo-Bangkok via CDG and BOM on Jet website, it's less tty good deal I think. May be similar ex-Dublin. ex-London is expensive I am sure. But make sure use multi-city booking and force connection through Mumbai. Delhi is such a dump.

Ooo. Let me go and take a look as well! Although I think you told me that the BOM-SIN sector will be quite a pain with standard recliner seats right? Btw I assume you're looking at J class fares    Also, doesn't one direction require a very long stopover?

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 20):
I don't like sun. Meet in Suites better.  

Haha! Adopt me as your Godson please!   

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 20):
Eh, i thought Paris is only next month? See, now I am confused! Too many shuttles, you.

LOL! Paris is next month, and was last month as well    I'm thinking of adding yet another shuttle between now and then for my fiancée's birthday!   

No more $$ though. Want to sponsor?

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Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:37 am

Quoting pokfur (Reply 19):



Quoting Shuttle12T (Reply 18):
I've only flown BA CityFlyer once from EDI-LCY, but I was mega impressed with the service, like you I got a hot breakfast.

Interestingly, I think BA serves hot breakfast on their early morning domestic services but not on international sectors. To entice travellers to fly them instead of easyjet perhaps?

Perhaps, although only the Scottish routes get the full English, NCL-LHR is a bacon roll or similar, as is MAN & LBA I believe.

Quoting Shuttle12T (Reply 18):
I don't get the BA MAD Fares ex LHR, it's all a bit random, I seem to recall when I was looking myself that Im going to have to buy the IB MAD-LHR Leg on BA as iberia wanted €700, but through BA it's substantialy cheaper.

Really?? For some reason LHR-MAD is one of the only destinations that aren't discounted when bought as a one-way ticket. When I was looking for my positioning flight, there was no difference between the IB and BA website in terms of prices. I had no choice but to go with LCY, or low-cost carriers. Lucky you I think!!   

I look forward to reading your report!

pokfur

Apologies I stand corrected, having just checked out of my own curiosity, it's substantialy less if it's booked as a multi city through BA.com, for LCY-MAD then back MAD-LHR on the A340 plus a LHR-NCL domestic leg to get me back home in June comes to the more than reasonable sum of £216
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Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:16 pm

OMG... Pokfur is back....

LISTEN EVERYBODY... POKFUR IS BACK!

:D   

Great report and pics as usual my friend, you sure know how to ¨transfer¨ between terminals LOL!

Sadly I missed my chance to fly into LCY on the E170 last august, I was really looking forward to it, oh well... next time.

The IB A340 sure looks a bit retro, no PTVs! and those birds do some serious long haul down to South America... 12+ hrs and no IFE...   

And she sure is a lazy girl!

My video (taken ages ago) of a Lufty one departing SIN bound for MUC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSjZJ5IlCjw

The BA 744 looks tired, hopefully when BA gives them a dose of botox, they will be a joy to fly  

Looking forward to more (take your time, otherwise I´ll get another backlog)

Oh and Happy New Year to you!

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Thu Jan 08, 2015 2:59 am

Hello Shuttle12T!

Quoting Shuttle12T (Reply 22):
Apologies I stand corrected, having just checked out of my own curiosity, it's substantialy less if it's booked as a multi city through BA.com, for LCY-MAD then back MAD-LHR on the A340 plus a LHR-NCL domestic leg to get me back home in June comes to the more than reasonable sum of £216

Try the IB website! I think sometimes they offer the same flights for even less, especially on the BCN routes where you can get BCN-LGW for £25! Not too sure for Madrid though. However, you are right that when booked as round trip (even if open-jaw), it will bring the price down to the 'normal' levels. Once again, enjoy your pair of flights!!




Hello hello MIAspotter!

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 23):
LISTEN EVERYBODY... POKFUR IS BACK!

Lol. Drama queen! Nonetheless, thanks for the grand welcome!   

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 23):
Great report and pics as usual my friend, you sure know how to ¨transfer¨ between terminals LOL!

Haha! I think, enough of that for a while now! I have another ex-MAD coming up in March but hopefully my travel plans will actually bring me to Madrid, rather than just making it a turnaround flight.

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 23):
Sadly I missed my chance to fly into LCY on the E170 last august, I was really looking forward to it, oh well... next time.

I heard the E170 has crap legroom, whereas the E190 has massive legroom. Something about number of cabin crew on the flight...

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 23):
The IB A340 sure looks a bit retro, no PTVs! and those birds do some serious long haul down to South America... 12+ hrs and no IFE...   

I know right! I almost booked IB to South America last year, but went with KL/AF combo in the end haha. I think I'm glad I did that.

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 23):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSjZJ5IlCjw

That is one retro video!!! And wow! I recognise the landmarks at SIN and you guys sure took your time to lift off! One day I wanna fly something like SIN-ZRH on Swiss' A340s to experience this über long take-off roll.

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 23):
The BA 744 looks tired, hopefully when BA gives them a dose of botox, they will be a joy to fly  

Yeah it's nice to hear that BA will facelift the 747s and keep them till the 20s! I think what they're doing is right - reupholstering and upgrading the IFE to larger screens. The seat itself is still good and comfortable so I agree that there's no need to change the seat itself. The screen size and quality, though, need some help.

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 23):
Looking forward to more (take your time, otherwise I´ll get another backlog)

Wahaha! My next one is done and ready to go, actually   

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 23):
Oh and Happy New Year to you!

Thank you! And thanks for dropping by!

I'm thinking of flying QR ex-BCN next year, maybe you'll be around and we can catch up?   

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Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:40 am

Thanks for the nice report!

I like your really detailed writing style and the pictures of all details. Well done!

It seems you are travelling really often between Asia and Europe   What are you studying?
 
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Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:18 am

Hey transatlantic!

Quoting transatlantic (Reply 25):
Thanks for the nice report!

You're most welcome! Thanks for dropping by  

Quoting transatlantic (Reply 25):
I like your really detailed writing style and the pictures of all details. Well done!

Haha thank you once again! It's quite therapeutic actually, 'reliving' the flight as I type it all out, especially when the flight was a great one   

Quoting transatlantic (Reply 25):
It seems you are travelling really often between Asia and Europe

Well, that's mainly because my fiancée studies in Oxford so... all done in the name of love, you could say.

Quoting transatlantic (Reply 25):
What are you studying?

Haha. I'm a double major in Business administration and accountancy. Boring, I know    Honestly not quite sure what I'm going to do with my life once I graduate   

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Fri Jan 09, 2015 9:08 am

Quoting pokfur (Reply 24):
Haha! I think, enough of that for a while now! I have another ex-MAD coming up in March but hopefully my travel plans will actually bring me to Madrid, rather than just making it a turnaround flight.

LOL, enjoy MAD! I know a few eating places you can try 
Quoting pokfur (Reply 24):
I know right! I almost booked IB to South America last year, but went with KL/AF combo in the end haha. I think I'm glad I did that.

You did good!

Quoting pokfur (Reply 24):
That is one retro video!!! And wow! I recognise the landmarks at SIN and you guys sure took your time to lift off! One day I wanna fly something like SIN-ZRH on Swiss' A340s to experience this über long take-off roll.

Yeah... 2008! this may sound weird... but departing MUC bound for SIN... the takeoff felt much powerful!

Quoting pokfur (Reply 24):
I'm thinking of flying QR ex-BCN next year, maybe you'll be around and we can catch up?

Oh for sure! let me know 

and I am actually planning a little Asia trip this August... it may or may not include SIN... it is in the early stages of planning, but so far I have worked out BCN-BKK (QR A380) then onwards to HKG for a couple of days, then SIN also for a couple of days, and fly back to BCN from there (QR787) or I might end up doing the whole thing on EK.

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Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:09 am

Hey MIAspotter!

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 27):
LOL, enjoy MAD! I know a few eating places you can try 

Ooo. I'll PM you if I really end up going there!

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 27):
Yeah... 2008! this may sound weird... but departing MUC bound for SIN... the takeoff felt much powerful!

I suppose these lacklustre takeoffs only happen if it's a derated takeoff. I'm sure the A340 performs fine if it's a full-powered one! Otherwise, how does it do all those hot/high conditions?

Maybe the SIN-departing flight could afford a derated takeoff especially since SIN has a rather long 4km runway?

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 27):
and I am actually planning a little Asia trip this August... it may or may not include SIN... it is in the early stages of planning, but so far I have worked out BCN-BKK (QR A380) then onwards to HKG for a couple of days, then SIN also for a couple of days, and fly back to BCN from there (QR787) or I might end up doing the whole thing on EK.

Eeek! EK!   

Well ok I don't dislike them but Dubai can be a nightmare, especially compared to the new HIA. Plus them 3-4-3 777s? However, QR flies the 3-3-3 787s to SIN as well so I can't decide which is worse. Haha! Of course, please do not hesitate to let me know if you're dropping by sunny Singapore!   

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Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:20 pm

Hi there Pokfur, good read as usual.

Interesting you went via MAD. I did a similar thing in 2013, except I went via Paris. Makes a bit if a difference in price (at least in my experience) plus it also adds to the experience.

For my trip to South America next year, im actually heading back to Madrid rather than London as it worked out a good £500 cheaper than going back to London - so works both ways really.

On to the flight itself - BA look decent enough in Y. Came close to taking my first flight in that cabin since 1997 the other week - only to be given an upgrade in the lounge. Although to be honest, I probably would have rather have kept my original window seat than be shoved right in the middle in a WTP seat!
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Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:47 am

Hi James!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 29):
good read as usual.

Thanks!!   

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 29):
Interesting you went via MAD. I did a similar thing in 2013, except I went via Paris. Makes a bit if a difference in price (at least in my experience) plus it also adds to the experience.

Indeed! I think if buying through ba.com, then you gotta wait for sales from various countries to start before finding the best fares. In my case, it was a fare sold by IB, and it seems to be there all the time, even now. I'm looking to possibly do this same routing again in May!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 29):
For my trip to South America next year, im actually heading back to Madrid rather than London as it worked out a good £500 cheaper than going back to London - so works both ways really.

Nice! Doable if you're an aviation enthusiast, and have extra time on your hands. Enjoy your trip!!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 29):
Came close to taking my first flight in that cabin since 1997 the other week - only to be given an upgrade in the lounge

Since '97??  Wow!  Wow!  Wow!

So... you've only been sitting in WTP and Club all this time??

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 29):
Although to be honest, I probably would have rather have kept my original window seat than be shoved right in the middle in a WTP seat!

Wow that's a tough one! If in the old WTP, I think I'd make the same choice as you. If it were the new one, a middle seat might not be so bad...? Lol!

Thanks for dropping by James!

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Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:03 am

Quoting pokfur (Reply 30):
Since '97??      

So... you've only been sitting in WTP and Club all this time??

Yes, but thats not quite as good as it sounds!

Most of the 90's and 00's I was flying almost exclusively with VS. We decided to give BA a go in 1997 as they had better prices, but we found the product wasn't anywhere near as good back then (VS had PTV's at every seat, where as BA still had the cinema screen on the bulkhead).

It's only when I started flying within Europe a fair bit in 2012 that I went to flying with BA again. Even then, I still chose VS for my one long haul flight that year ( Virgin Atlantic's New A330 LHR-JFK-LHR (by jwhite9185 Sep 21 2012 in Trip Reports) )

It was in 2013 that I gave BA long haul a go once more - even now, I've only made three long haul trips with them, all in WTP, other than on my last flight where I was upgraded to CW.
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Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:38 pm

Hello James!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 31):
Most of the 90's and 00's I was flying almost exclusively with VS.

Ah yes, VS. I forgot that you guys have an alternative!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 31):
where as BA still had the cinema screen on the bulkhead).

I remember flying BA to Sydney/London from Singapore as a young kid and wanting to kill myself from boredom on those flights. 99% of the time I wished I was on SQ which had PTVs too! Haha!

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 31):
It was in 2013 that I gave BA long haul a go once more - even now, I've only made three long haul trips with them, all in WTP, other than on my last flight where I was upgraded to CW.

And you've so quickly turned into a BA Gold already eh?   

Lucky you, I've not had opups with BA yet!  

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Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:30 pm

Quoting pokfur (Reply 26):
Haha. I'm a double major in Business administration and accountancy. Boring, I know    Honestly not quite sure what I'm going to do with my life once I graduate   

You can try SQ.
But pray hard that they don't post you to Dhaka.... or Riyadh...
 
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Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:37 am

Hi SQueeze!

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 33):
You can try SQ.
But pray hard that they don't post you to Dhaka.... or Riyadh...

Lol. I interned at SQ before. I think it's one thing to want to fly on SQ, and another to work for them    However, I am definitely not ruling it out.

Eh, any lobang for fresh graduates where you work? They seem to pay rather well there         

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Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:24 am

Quoting pokfur (Reply 34):
Lol. I interned at SQ before. I think it's one thing to want to fly on SQ, and another to work for them However, I am definitely not ruling it out.

Well, i do notice that very often SQ management (not even top level) travels First Class. Business Class is more sellable and is often full.

Quoting pokfur (Reply 34):
Eh, any lobang for fresh graduates where you work? They seem to pay rather well there

Well, my profession is pretty much specialized. You need to redo your University Year 1 till Year 5 and that is not including the mandatory year out. Still keen? I can reserve a space for you in 2020. 

And no, we are not paid well, our clients are paid better. Haha.

But I do get the privilege of travel, and with my savviness in the matter of credit card earnings, and redemptions, the 7-figure number of miles is not impossible to reach. And that's where my First Class flights come from. If only miles are convertible directly 1:1 to SGD, that would have been superb.
 
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Mon Jan 12, 2015 11:46 am

Quoting pokfur (Reply 28):
Ooo. I'll PM you if I really end up going there!

No problemo! 
Quoting pokfur (Reply 28):
Eeek! EK!

I know, I am still working out the itinerary, I really want to fly the A380 out of BCN just for bragging rights lol... but then again I can fly QR out of BCN and fly on their A380 to BKK, and the Dreamliner back.

Then I can make my way from BKK to HKG and then to SIN (Scoot)

Quoting pokfur (Reply 28):
Well ok I don't dislike them but Dubai can be a nightmare, especially compared to the new HIA. Plus them 3-4-3 777s? However, QR flies the 3-3-3 787s to SIN as well so I can't decide which is worse. Haha! Of course, please do not hesitate to let me know if you're dropping by sunny Singapore

DXB a nightmare? even on Concourse A?

3-4-3 777... but I may try and get on the A380 flight out of SIN.

No worries, I´ll let you know if I end up going, we can go and have a nice Singaporean feast somewhere 

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Mon Jan 12, 2015 11:54 pm

Hello SQueeze!

Quoting SQueeze (Reply 35):
Well, my profession is pretty much specialized.

Let me guess... You're a lawyer?   

I think we have to take this discussion offline before the mods come around and wipe our convos out!




Hello MIAspotter!

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 36):
I know, I am still working out the itinerary, I really want to fly the A380 out of BCN just for bragging rights lol... but then again I can fly QR out of BCN and fly on their A380 to BKK, and the Dreamliner back.

Why not QR out of FRA? Then you'll really have bragging rights. Hehe!

Quoting MIAspotter (Reply 36):
DXB a nightmare? even on Concourse A?

Oh I forgot about that. Last time I was through was in 2011 and I believe that wasn't open yet. I haven't sat on an EK A380 actually.

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Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:07 am

Quoting pokfur (Reply 37):
Let me guess... You're a lawyer?

Law is 5-year education in the UK? In Singapore, it's 4.
Anyway, nope, not a lawyer. How can lawyers travel around? Law in each country is specific and not export-able.

And that should already narrow down the range of field and I think you should know what it is.

[Edited 2015-01-12 18:08:14]
 
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Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:30 pm

Nice report Pokur! I like you turn and burn in MAD...I did that last year, although LHR both times. I love that T4S lounge...the cava, the salmon, the Haagen Dazs....and the great views!

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):

The only problem was... 80% of the cabin did not turn off their reading lights!!

I wondered if it was BA's SOP to leave reading lights on for passengers to turn off if not needed, but I've since found out that this flight was probably an isolated case and that reading lights are normally kept off for passengers to turn on if needed. Nonetheless, I had fitful sleep that night purely because of this

Grrr, so annoying. I wonder why they turned all the lights on to begin with? Perhaps lots were broken, so they were replaced just before your flight and they kept them on to test them?
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Sat Feb 14, 2015 3:36 am

Hello Gabriel!

Catching up on your backlog?      

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 39):

Nice report Pokur!

Thank you!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 39):
I did that last year, although LHR both times.

You did a turnaround at LHR? From where? I thought you're based on UK..

I'm looking at doing this again in May. The only problem is that BA doesn't offer cheap one-ways to MAD from LHR, and it's a pain to get to LCY or LGW from Oxford   

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 39):
I love that T4S lounge...the cava, the salmon, the Haagen Dazs....and the great views!

Eeek I hated the cava! But yes, everything else was awesome! I'm looking forward to being back there again in exactly 3 weeks' time!   

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 39):
Grrr, so annoying. I wonder why they turned all the lights on to begin with? Perhaps lots were broken, so they were replaced just before your flight and they kept them on to test them?

I've since found out from flyertalk that it was an anomaly and the crew should have turned them off when they dimmed the cabin lights. Well, if they were indeed testing them, I can assure you that they were working very well.   

Hehe.

Thanks for stopping by!

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Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:21 pm

Great report, thanks a lot. I really like BA and find their staff very good for european standards. LHR T5 is very beautiful but I wish they would European arrivals not make repass security every time as there is no need for it technically... I guess that would be some kind of logistics nightmare, but the long security waits and thight connections at this wonderful terminal are really a downside.

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
That would pose as a 'problem' as I now needed to get through passport control instead of just hanging around air side.

This is something I already wondered before. I am sure there must be some kind of arrangements. Some nationalities do require a visa for Schengen and I suppose for those people a bus is called which brings them over to the Non Schengen part of T4S...
 
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Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:53 pm

Hello reifel,

Quoting reifel (Reply 41):
Great report, thanks a lot.

Thanks! And thanks for stopping by.

Quoting reifel (Reply 41):
I really like BA and find their staff very good for european standards.

I do agree that they're probably the best of the European carriers, in my opinion, which is why I try to stick to them when I'm there   

Quoting reifel (Reply 41):
LHR T5 is very beautiful but I wish they would European arrivals not make repass security every time as there is no need for it technically...

Ah.. Yes. I've heard this lamented many times before. I suppose it has to do with Schengen and non-schengen related issues..? I'm not too sure as I'm not from Europe, of course. Thankfully I'm normally through LHR at non-peak hours.

Quoting reifel (Reply 41):
This is something I already wondered before. I am sure there must be some kind of arrangements. Some nationalities do require a visa for Schengen and I suppose for those people a bus is called which brings them over to the Non Schengen part of T4S...

I've read before that BA and IB flights from LHR arrive into T4S, and there is a bus that takes them directly to the non-schengen part. This is in anticipation that some passengers might be connecting onto long-haul IB flights. As for the LCY flight which I took, it arrives at the T4 main terminal, as they probably do not expect many connecting passengers coming from LCY.

I'm looking at doing this whole saga again in May. It's currently pricing at £351! Even cheaper!  Wow!

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Sat Feb 14, 2015 4:24 pm

Hi pokfur, great report as always. Twelve hours in that dated bird must've been a little too long, but fun nonetheless.  
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Sat Feb 14, 2015 5:27 pm

Hello kann123air,

Quoting kann123air (Reply 43):
Hi pokfur, great report as always.

Thanks!!   

Quoting kann123air (Reply 43):
Twelve hours in that dated bird must've been a little too long, but fun nonetheless.  

Lol I've done it twice, and it's not that bad! The seats were actually still quite comfortable and there was no IFE box eating away my legroom, which seems to be a new trend.

I'll be doing a SIN-LHR return on the A380 and 77W so perhaps can do a comparison then, but not sure if I'll have enough juice to churn out a TR for that!

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Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:52 am

Hey pokfur,

Good one, I finally managed to read it. Congrats on all those firsts. Flying from LCY to LHR is certainly most convenient and exciting! Yeah - the LCY Embraers are most comfy and a big bonus is the brekkie you get. That A343 you flew seemed to have an updated Y cabin at least. Kinda strange as I thought all 343’s were leaving the fleet? And by looking at the engines it is indeed an A343  Wow! I flew one last year, very old cabin, really appaling but this looked much better although not anywhere near the new A330’s and A346’ers. Oh yeah, the B747, quite an ageing lady as well, it seems one becomes familiar with those larger screens that we tend to forget how those looked like in the 1st days of PTV’s. It’s tiny but seemingly with good and responsive software loaded.

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
I decided to visit my fiancee

Seems to be the reason why you fly so much lol!

Quoting pokfur (Thread starter):
She wasn't very friendly, but this was Economy and I wasn't expecting much more.

An FA should be friendly regardless of the class you are traveling, my   

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Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:37 am

Hello Nils!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 45):
Good one, I finally managed to read it.

No worries! Thanks for taking the time to drop a comment  

Quoting sultanils (Reply 45):
Congrats on all those firsts. Flying from LCY to LHR is certainly most convenient and exciting!

Lol!!   

Quoting sultanils (Reply 45):
the LCY Embraers are most comfy and a big bonus is the brekkie you get.

Do they serve hot breakfast on all morning LCY flights?

Quoting sultanils (Reply 45):
That A343 you flew seemed to have an updated Y cabin at least. Kinda strange as I thought all 343’s were leaving the fleet? And by looking at the engines it is indeed an A343   I flew one last year, very old cabin, really appaling but this looked much better although not anywhere near the new A330’s and A346’ers.

Hmm I'm not well-versed with IB's A343 fleet, but I must say that this seat didn't look that old at all, so you're probably right that it was refurbished recently perhaps.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 45):
Oh yeah, the B747, quite an ageing lady as well, it seems one becomes familiar with those larger screens that we tend to forget how those looked like in the 1st days of PTV’s. It’s tiny but seemingly with good and responsive software loaded.

I know right! Some of these older systems end up being much more responsive than the new ones, probably because of its simplicity. And, unless it was placed under the middle or aisle seat, there was also no IFE box present to eat away at my legroom   

I wouldn't hesitate to fly BA's 747 again on this route.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 45):
Seems to be the reason why you fly so much lol!

Lol!! My next 2 trips are also based on this!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 45):
An FA should be friendly regardless of the class you are traveling, my   

   There're always rotten eggs in every company, I suppose...

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