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Best Economy Seats, Emirates 777-300ER ARN-CPT

Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:20 am

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Flight no. 1: EK157
Aircraft: Boeing 777-300ER Reg.: A6-ENQ
IFE: ICE Widescreen (Latest version with a touchscreen remote)
Route: ARN-DXB
ETD: 13:30
ETA: 22:55
Seat: 19K

Arlanda International Airport

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On 25 December 2014 me and my family started our trip to South Africa. We would be in South Africa for about 2 weeks. We opted for a price comparison and the cheapest way was Emirates via Dubai and I am now going to explain to you about our flight.

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The check-in at Arlanda was empty today, perhaps not surprising given the day. However, it was full at the Emirates check-in and I got in a discussion with airport staff and was informed that the plane is overbooked. A company of two was asked to travel via Amsterdam. They was very friendly and gave us permission to check-in on the business class desk that was empty.

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The large duty free shop at the airport is very nice with a good assortment. However, this is not the most competitive prices. But after going through this shop, there isn’t too many stores.

We passed through a security checkpoint to the upper floor of the F-pier. There is a small selection of shops so I recommend that is what you want before.

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A fun looking sofa...

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I would like to mention that they checked boarding passes before entering the waiting area. This facilitates boarding significant. They also divided the planet into zones easier for all.

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We is politely welcomed and guided to our seats. The plane leaves from Gate F-62 in relatively good time.

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The choice of seat: 19K

During these two flights I have tried to the best Economy seats on the Emirates 777-300ER . I opted for 19K the first flight because:

+ This seat is in the front cabin with only five lines. This makes the trip more intimate.
+ The advantage of this cabin is also that the food is served first and that one can get it fairly quickly.
+ This was a good seat with standard dimensions and views of the wing.

- The only negative would be a little higher engine sound.

These seats in the front cabin (but not in row 18, without windows) can be highly recommended if you fly with this model and this company. They met all the expectations I had.

The flight (Service): The Emirates EK158

We took off just after the schedule from 01L at Arlanda. During the night it had fallen snow and temperature decreased considerably. This meant that we were forced to de-ice the plane and my window was covered with a liquid during the takeoff. This prevented me from filming the start.

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I got the standard headphones for economy but also three pieces that man can put on the seat when sleeping. These indicate if you want to be woken at food and sale of tax-free. Funny detail!

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They gave out hot towels before takeoff, which is a very nice feature and this makes you feel fresh and newly awake.

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After a smooth and pleasant start we turned east.

After starting handed out small and exquisite menus:



I choose the chicken as main course.

But before we got the food they served a small bag of snacks and accompanying drink. Nice attitude of the staff! The red wine was freezing cold but was compensated by the generous offer of spirits which were impressive.

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The food we were served:

I was really pleasantly surprised by the food! It was so good. The chicken with parmesan and pesto topping was tasty and juicy, while the inviting polenta was a great accessory. The garlic fried beans were tasty and really good. They even wanted to have more of it.

The starter was potato salad with smoked salmon easily explained. It tasted exactly as expected and was really tasty.

The dessert was a vanilla panacotta with raspberry jam and some form of cinnamon crunch. Really fresh and wonderfully delicious!

The only negative I can come up with is that the bread was boring. Overall, I'd say that lunch on this flight was a big plus (even tasted of lamb which was fantastic).

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Entertainment system:

After dinner, I got time to use ICE Widescreen greater extent. This system is very good, maybe the best I've experienced in economy. It's not just the incredible range of approximately 600 films but also the incredible functionality.

The controller we had consisted primarily of a touchscreen, since this is the latest variant of ICE. This could be used as an additional screen. I did so that it showed a map while I watched the movie.



The menus were very easy to operate and never hung or slowed down. However, one can not see the movie on the control, and that is something I see could improve overall experience. However, I must say that I love the incredibly large screen and wished that Emirates could provide better information about the aircraft that has it and who has the older systems.

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But their IFE I can probably classify as a world leader after trying both Turkish Airlines and Qatar Airways.

The flight (Service) pt. 2: The Emirates EK158

About an hour before we were landing we were served vanilla ice cream which I think was a real fun snack that more airlines should serve.

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The landing went right after we spun over the Arabian Sea for 10 minutes. We arrived just before the scheduled time and the captain who had been incredibly nice whole trip noted that the temperature was 23 degrees at night. Too bad we would not stay in Dubai.

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We arrived at the gate G17 which was a remote-gate. It took a while before we got to "Concorse B" with busses.

Airport: Dubai International Airport

I have never travelled through Dubai Airport before so I (as a aviation enthusiast) was excited about how the terminal should look. It both exceeded my expectations and made me disappointed.

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It was an incredible choice in that part of the terminal as I was in "Concorse B". Our party went through the entire terminal at least four times and I was fascinated by their way of building the terminal. How terminal consisted of several floors above and below ground. It was a huge shopping street and gates outside it.

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It made me a little disappointed that "Concorse C" was not as good as expected and pretty boring. The entire airport was quite non-charming with cold-light, big stores and many people. But it is perhaps what one should expect from such a large hub.

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We ate at Cosí that fell far short of our expectations and the “restaurant” can not be recommended.

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Flight no. 2: EK772
Aircraft: Boeing 777-300ER Reg .: A6 EGB
IFE: ICE Widescreen (Old Version)
Route: DXB-CPT
ETD: 04:00
ETA: 11:40
Seat: 46A

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After waiting in Dubai, we went on our second flight 45 minutes before departure. It was headed down one floor where boarding the plane would happen. It was a pretty chaotic boarding because the staff were unclear with which ones were allowed to board when. But they checked the tickets before entering the waiting area.



A good selection of international newspapers

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The choice of seat: 46A

During these two flights I have tried to the best of Economy seats. I opted for the first flight seat 46A of some reasons.

+ Incredible legroom (Line 46A / B / Y / K).
+ More shaft space (Row 46-50A / B / J / K).
+ Broader walking beside the seat.

- Served food last.
- Toilet queue next to the seat.

I can sum it up with, all the seats after line 46 near the windows (A / B / Y / K) has better shoulder space, while row 46 has extra legroom. However, one must compromise on that you can not fold up the armrests and front screen is slightly out of viewing angle. However, this is nothing I can complain about a greater extent. I would choose these seats in front of row 19, etc. If I had to choose again. These seats exceeded my expectations.

The flight (Service): Emirates flight EK772

We lifted after taxiing on the taxiway out to sea and made a wonderful turn around Dubai. We sat on the left and got to see the whole of Dubai's skyline.

We got the same headphones and a towel during the first flight. The main difference was that got a small kit with socks, eye mask and dental hygiene kits. On the seat was also a blanket and pillow, just like last flight.

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Before the start they shared out our menu.



We first got a sandwich and cookies and then before landing breakfast. It's really good that they are not served the big meal first because most wanted to sleep.

We quickly and hastily served a sandwich and something to drink.

The sandwich was tastier than it looked, with fairly mild and delicate flavor. The turkey was really good and in thicker slices. Nothing sensational, but a good sandwich. The cookies also consumed without any problem.

However, I think that maybe they should have had an extra serving of water before most fell asleep.

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Entertainment system:

Before I planned to go to sleep so I played a little with the screen in front of me. It was a very pleasant experience overall. Everything went smooth and was almost as good as last flight. And there was an identical choice of films which creates a good holistic sense.

This system is widescreen, but do not have touch control is Emirates second sensate and can be compared with most competitors although the Emirates last verision is a world leader.

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(On my way home from CPT I tested their oldest systems, ICE "non-widescreen" and then they could really feel the difference. The screens were smaller and had less contrast while the supply of films was much less than on the fist flight. The two versions of the ICE widescreen is definitely a huge step better)

You could not see any noticeable information on the small screen that was on the controller. The only thing it showed was what channel was on the big screen. However, I think that you should be able to do more with the map on the big screen for instance. pan in and out of yourself, change the view, etc. Otherwise, the system is very good.

The flight (Service) pt. 2: Emirates flight EK772

For the second meal, breakfast so I choosed "Mushroom Omelette".

The breakfast that was served was good. Can not say it was exceptional in any way but it tasted okay. However, I want to mention that markups or vegetables looked unappetising and that the sausages texture was nonexistent.

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It may be noted that the drinks were served after the meal which I can find a bit strange. I want to give the staff credit for the incredible effectiveness in serving.

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***LOOK AT MY LANDNING VIDEO FROM CAPETOWN HERE***

Airport: Cape Town Airport

We arrived at Cape Town just before the sceduled time and landed on runway 19. It went smoothly through passport control and we got the luggage immediately after we arrived at the arrival hall. After a short ride we came out to the car rental place and we were soon on the South African roads.


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To sum this review up I want to say that I am positively surprised by Emirates! Before the flight, I read about the bad food, poor service and small seats. Bot nothing of that really bothered me. The food was for most time excellent and the service was superb.

I have flown the 777-300ER with Qatar Airways and 9-abreast in economy and can surely say that the 9-abreast configuration is more comfortable. When flown this more dense configuration I actually feel just a bit more claustrophobic. I would indeed feel the difference if flying the 10-abreast configuration directly after the 9-abreast. But in this case this layout feels totally ok as I had quite much legroom (but without footrest which Turkish Airlines´have).

Thanks for reading and feel free to give me feedback and comment and I will happily answer!      

Simon Brobäck   

[Edited 2015-02-03 23:52:52 by wilco737]
 
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RE: Best Economy Seats, Emirates 777-300ER ARN-CPT

Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:58 am

Hi simpan97!


Nice report first of all!

Quoting simpan97 (Thread starter):
During these two flights I have tried to the best Economy seats on the Emirates 777-300ER . I opted for 19K the first flight because:

+ This seat is in the front cabin with only five lines. This makes the trip more intimate.
+ The advantage of this cabin is also that the food is served first and that one can get it fairly quickly.
+ This was a good seat with standard dimensions and views of the wing.

- The only negative would be a little higher engine sound.

These seats in the front cabin (but not in row 18, without windows) can be highly recommended if you fly with this model and this company. They met all the expectations I had.

Indeed, having a seat in a mini compartment is always nice. Also the point with the food is very true, having a seat right in the middle of the cabin is not that good, as the better meal options are often gone.
However, I always avoid it to seat over the wing, as it is quite impossible to see much of the ground IMO.


Food looks very good, as always on EK.

Quoting simpan97 (Thread starter):
We would be in South Africa for about 2 weeks. We opted for a price comparison and the cheapest way was Emirates via Dubai and I am now going to explain to you about our flight.

Right, EK always have good prices, BUT I strictly avoid to fly Emirates as they are destroying the market in my opinion. EU carriers like LH, SK etc. just cannot offer such low prices....


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RE: Best Economy Seats, Emirates 777-300ER ARN-CPT

Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:37 am

Very nice report, EK seems to got it's act right, low prices and good service.
Hope to read soon your return trip report.

Quoting emek96 (Reply 1):
BUT I strictly avoid to fly Emirates as they are destroying the market in my opinion. EU carriers like LH, SK etc. just cannot offer such low prices....

They have high prices but terrible service, still if they improve the all around product i would not mind paying extra, but for the moment, money talks.
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RE: Best Economy Seats, Emirates 777-300ER ARN-CPT

Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:04 am

Hi Simon,
Thanks for your report with its lovely clear photos.

Quoting simpan97 (Thread starter):
gave us permission to check-in on the business class desk that was empty.

A wonderful Christmas present to travel to South Africa on that day. It is good to see that ground staff help to speed things up by allowing people to use the business class lane if there is no queue.

Quoting simpan97 (Thread starter):
I was really pleasantly surprised by the food! It was so good.

This ahs always impressed me with Emirates. The food may not be cordon bleu but the portions are always generous and they do try to vary what is served, although frequent travellers sometimes complain not often enough.

Quoting simpan97 (Thread starter):
We arrived just before the scheduled time

Hey, that's brilliant. Airspace in the Gulf can get quite congested and on past flights a delay of twenty minutes or more has not been uncommon.

Quoting simpan97 (Thread starter):
and made me disappointed.

DXB may be a shopper's delight but it isn't very spotter friendly. The internal layout and etched windows make it difficult to see much. Still, it is easy to find one's way around.

Quoting simpan97 (Thread starter):
When flown this more dense configuration I actually feel just a bit more claustrophobic.

Depending on your size, just sitting there isn't too bad. But I find that when eating it is a bit tights as you don't have much elbow room. For a window seat I used to prefer the A345 for the 2-4-2 configuration.

Thanks for sharing. I hope you had a great time in South Africa.

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Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:48 pm

That's a great report. I liked your imaginative photos with the text - something new on this forum! And of course your dedication to finding the best Y seats on EK, I will think of this if I ever fly them! The food options look really good too.

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Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:28 pm

Did you like Cape Town? I always wanted to go there. How was the weather?
 
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Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:36 pm

Quoting ElanusNotatus (Reply 3):
This ahs always impressed me with Emirates. The food may not be cordon bleu but the portions are always generous and they do try to vary what is served, although frequent travelers sometimes complain not often enough.
Quoting emek96 (Reply 1):
Food looks very good, as always on EK.
Quoting aerdingus (Reply 4):
The food options look really good too.

I must say that I was very supriced by the food! They overall standard was really high. Read on Skytrax among other sites that the quality food decreased during the last couple of years. Some of the dishes was really tasty, for example the lamb ragout. This is the best economy food I have ever tasted, better than both Qatar Airways and Turkish Airlines. But as always the breakfasts are relatively tasteless. The best thing on the breakfast was the fruit!

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 4):
That's a great report. I liked your imaginative photos with the text - something new on this forum!
Quoting ElanusNotatus (Reply 3):
Thanks for sharing. I hope you had a great time in South Africa.
Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 2):
Very nice report, EK seems to got it's act right, low prices and good service.
Quoting emek96 (Reply 1):
Nice report first of all!

Thank you for all positive feedback! But I apologize for the spelling mistakes I did! Makes it a bit hard to understand when talking about the ICE system. This is my second report and I think my way of writing is different because of my age.

Quoting ElanusNotatus (Reply 3):
Hey, that's brilliant. Airspace in the Gulf can get quite congested and on past flights a delay of twenty minutes or more has not been uncommon.
Quoting ElanusNotatus (Reply 3):
DXB may be a shopper's delight but it isn't very spotter friendly. The internal layout and etched windows make it difficult to see much. Still, it is easy to find one's way around.

We were about one half hour too early when we approached Dubai over the Arabic Sea, but was put on hold for about ten minutes or so, so we arrived surprisingly early. I have to agree with you! I hoped to watch all the A380s from the terminal, which was very difficult since the windows was a looong way from the shopping or gate area.
 
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Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:14 am

Wonderful TR! Thanks for writing, very organized and enjoyed the content and honesty.

Keep up the great work and looking forward to your next installment!

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Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:46 am

Quoting irishayes (Reply 7):

Wonderful TR! Thanks for writing, very organized and enjoyed the content and honesty.
Keep up the great work and looking forward to your next installment!

Thank you very much, I am not used to write these trip reports. It requires quite much work when travelling, but is usually very fun!

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 5):
Did you like Cape Town? I always wanted to go there. How was the weather?

I have been in Cape Town during the summer (on the southern hemisphere) a couple of times and it have been some amazing weeks. Cape Town is really good if you look from the weather perspective, since it is the opposite to Europe when its winder here, but it is still not super hot. The food and culture is very interesting and the nature is amazing! Would really recommend you to travel to Cape Town!
 
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Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:53 pm

Excellent TR! Honestly it really is.

46A is one of my favourite seats but I grew a little tired of it. I am now a big fan of 36A/K which have excellent wing views and always seem to be served rather fast with drinks and food.

Once flying DXB-SIN a man next to me asked if I would swap seats with his wife (43J) so they could sit together. I looked at him and said "this is always my seat". He backed down pretty fast. I felt bad but their poor seat planning was not my concern.

I like sitting in front of bulkheads so I can recline with out bothering anyone behind me. I can also store some things under MY seat without hitting a persons put from behind.

I take seat selection, like you I am going to guess, a little too seriously ha!
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Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:23 pm

Quoting Cipango (Reply 9):
46A is one of my favourite seats but I grew a little tired of it. I am now a big fan of 36A/K which have excellent wing views and always seem to be served rather fast with drinks and food.

You must travel a lot to get tired of the 46A. This seat was excellent with a bit of premium-economy feeling. I understand that row 36 is your second choice. But doesn't the ques or noise connected to the toilets disturb you? It is a lovely feeling when you don't need to think about the person sitting behind you when reclining, even if you're eating for example.

Quoting Cipango (Reply 9):
I take seat selection, like you I am going to guess, a little too seriously ha!

Welcome to the club! I love to choosing seats, especially on long haul routes. Why not make the trip better, for free?
 
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Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:39 am

Quoting simpan97 (Reply 10):
You must travel a lot to get tired of the 46A. This seat was excellent with a bit of premium-economy feeling.

It's a great seat but the fact the armrests are immobile is a little annoying. Also the fact that your preferred meal option is usually taken by the time the crew come to 46A. I love looking at the wings during take off and landing and I find the view from 46A too far away.

Quoting simpan97 (Reply 10):
I understand that row 36 is your second choice. But doesn't the ques or noise connected to the toilets disturb you?

I have always found that people queued at the emergency exit behind the bulkhead so it hasn't really been an issue. The one time it was I didn't mind because I was at the window and didn't really notice them.

Quoting simpan97 (Reply 10):
It is a lovely feeling when you don't need to think about the person sitting behind you when reclining, even if you're eating for example.

           
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RE: Best Economy Seats, Emirates 777-300ER ARN-CPT

Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:08 am

Great trip report!

Thanks for sharing...

I appreciate your feedback on those specific seats on the EK 777-300ER  
Quoting simpan97 (Thread starter):
During these two flights I have tried to the best Economy seats on the Emirates 777-300ER .

I always try to pick one of the rows on the side at the very back of the plane where the side of the plane tapers in and goes from 3 seats per row on the side to just 2. I have found those two seat rows to be great if you are in a group of two and, of course, are not in a hurry to get off the plane  
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Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:46 pm

Great TR Simpan97.

Quoting simpan97 (Thread starter):
The choice of seat: 46A

During these two flights I have tried to the best of Economy seats. I opted for the first flight seat 46A of some reasons.

This was surely my best seat too. Was recently on a EK from UK to India, and was constantly on these seats on my 777 journey.
 
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Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:48 pm

Quoting simpan97 (Thread starter):
I have flown the 777-300ER with Qatar Airways and 9-abreast in economy and can surely say that the 9-abreast configuration is more comfortable. When flown this more dense configuration I actually feel just a bit more claustrophobic. I would indeed feel the difference if flying the 10-abreast configuration directly after the 9-abreast.

Completely agree with you on this. Have been on the 9 abreast on UA, BA and AI. It is a marked difference. But what EK do well is to distract you with some mindblowing entertainment and their leg space is more than decent, to make you forget the seat width.
 
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Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:27 pm

Great TR, thanks for sharing!

Quoting simpan97 (Thread starter):
It made me a little disappointed that "Concorse C" was not as good as expected and pretty boring. The entire airport was quite non-charming with cold-light, big stores and many people. But it is perhaps what one should expect from such a large hub.

The C gates are not part of the Emirates terminal, this is the 'old' part of DXB which opened in T1 and was used by everyone until Terminal 3 was opened. EK only uses C gates when there isn't enough room in Gates A and B and only uses the section that is closer to Terminal 3, which isn't as fancy BUT T1/C Gates in general aren't that bad, and not as much walking involved.
 
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Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:35 am

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 12):
I always try to pick one of the rows on the side at the very back of the plane where the side of the plane tapers in and goes from 3 seats per row on the side to just 2. I have found those two seat rows to be great if you are in a group of two and, of course, are not in a hurry to get off the plane
Quoting newbief1yer (Reply 13):
This was surely my best seat too. Was recently on a EK from UK to India, and was constantly on these seats on my 777 journey.

           

I totally agree with you that this would be my prefrred seat if I would fly on a Emirates 777-300ER (or a 777 with 3-4-3 seating layout) again. Seat 46A was excellent and one thing that was very good and that I really liked was the partially unfolded table. When you folded up the table from the armrest it was "half unfolded" before you unfold it completely. You could place your drink or tablet on the "half-table".

I haven't really seen a seat guide like this and missed that before my flight, so I made one myself!
 
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Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:44 pm

I am not too convinced with this TR. It reeks of EK's marketing department working overtime to sell their 10 across layout. Who better than a a blogger in his teens with big aspirations in the aviation industry. maybe they didn't even have to pay him off just promise him some favors in the future.

Because there is no way 10 across is even close to the comfort of 9 across. The 'heck i didn't notice it a lot' is a soft indoctrination of people towards the inferior 10 across. What better way than to first spew this on a aviation forum.
 
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Sat Feb 14, 2015 8:54 pm

Of course, you can feel the difference between 777 & A380 layout (17 vs 18 in. Seatguru has the numbers) but nothing exagerated... hey! it's economy! (I was lucky enough to have the hole row in the 777, so just felt the difference during take off & landing)

I choose 36K (79K in A380) just to have nobody behind me (and to have a good view of the wing), while you have to wait a little to be served, you can order a beer for the wait just raising your arm. Food, service, entertaiment and all was great. (Always think I eat too much during long haul flights)

Thanks for the TR & Photos, interesting reading!

May you want to read my EK marketing exercice here  :

My Little Holidays To Hong Kong! (EK BCN-DXB-HGK) (by mighluss Dec 26 2014 in Trip Reports)
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Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:56 pm

Quoting mighluss (Reply 18):
I choose 36K (79K in A380) just to have nobody behind me (and to have a good view of the wing), while you have to wait a little to be served, you can order a beer for the wait just raising your arm. Food, service, entertaiment and all was great. (Always think I eat too much during long haul flights)

Exact same seat selection from me too! I once did 50A on the A380 but I didn't like it as much as 79A/K.
Let's fly! Unless it's on a CRJ 200, then I'll stay down here.
 
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Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:57 am

Quoting manny (Reply 17):

I am not too convinced with this TR. It reeks of EK's marketing department working overtime to sell their 10 across layout. Who better than a a blogger in his teens with big aspirations in the aviation industry. maybe they didn't even have to pay him off just promise him some favors in the future.


           

I am NOT in any way partial or in some kind of collaboration with Emirates. My trip report is only written from MY perspective and I was actually happily surprised by the good service and didn't expected the flight to be as good as it was. I understand that the trip report can feel biased because I am new writing reports and should maybe be more critical in my way of writing.

If we discuss the 3-4-3 vs. 3-3-3 seating I can feel the difference. BUT I am used to fly a 737 with slim seats and thereby find the Emirates seats relatively good. I am although really disappointed that Emirates choosed the horrible 3-4-3 layout in front of the amazing 3-3-3 layout. I still find Emirates rather affordable but hate their way of employment and how the cabin staff is treated.
 
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Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:02 am

Quoting mighluss (Reply 18):

Of course, you can feel the difference between 777 & A380 layout (17 vs 18 in. Seatguru has the numbers) but nothing exaggerated... hey! it's economy! (I was lucky enough to have the hole row in the 777, so just felt the difference during take off & landing)

I choose 36K (79K in A380) just to have nobody behind me (and to have a good view of the wing), while you have to wait a little to be served, you can order a beer for the wait just raising your arm. Food, service, entertainment and all was great. (Always think I eat too much during long haul flights)

Thanks for the TR & Photos, interesting reading!

I really wished to fly the A380, not only because of the wider and better seats but also because of the greater chance to get their newest entertainment system and WiFi on board. But as you say, Y-class is Y-class and their are bigger differences when talking about C/J-class.

I need to try that seat if flying a 777-300ER or a A380 again! Haven't thought of the benefits with sitting at the last row of a cabin, but you need to make sure that there are no toilets in the galley.

Lucky you to have a whole row for yourself. Is there a greater risk of that occurring in the back of the plane?
 
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Mon Mar 02, 2015 6:51 pm

Hi!

Just for information, I got the hole row on 2 out of 4 flights. In fact, in the 777 flight (morning DXB-HKG) the middle and right group of seats were empty.

That seat (36K - 79K) is in yellow in seat guru (I don't know if that could have a real effect in seat occupation) but IMHO the seat reclines just as much as I need, and in the A380, there's no WC.

Anyway I think I was lucky enough! 
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Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:09 pm

Quoting mighluss (Reply 22):
Just for information, I got the hole row on 2 out of 4 flights. In fact, in the 777 flight (morning DXB-HKG) the middle and right group of seats were empty.
Quoting mighluss (Reply 22):
That seat (36K - 79K) is in yellow in seat guru

That is awesome! Are you referring to the empty seats? Which seats numbers where empty on the 777-300ER?

Quoting mighluss (Reply 22):
is in yellow in seat guru but IMHO the seat reclines just as much as I need

You shouldn't believe Seat Guru in all cases, but it gives a good overview, you then have to check cabin pictures and see if Seat Guru is describing the seats in a right way. Fining good seats is more difficult than rocket science!
 
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Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:48 pm

Great trip report! Great photos and very good information. I really enjoyed your trip! I hope you write more in the future!
 
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Sun Mar 29, 2015 4:51 pm

Quoting simpan97 (Reply 20):
If we discuss the 3-4-3 vs. 3-3-3 seating I can feel the difference. BUT I am used to fly a 737 with slim seats and thereby find the Emirates seats relatively good. I am although really disappointed that Emirates choosed the horrible 3-4-3 layout in front of the amazing 3-3-3 layout. I still find Emirates rather affordable but hate their way of employment and how the cabin staff is treated.

Fair enough. Other than that a good trip report.
 
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Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:17 am

A very well done trip report all the way across two continents.
The Boeing 777-300ER is a spacious aircraft but 10 seats across on EK is a bit much IMO.
ICE is certainly the best IFE out there with lots of info-tainment. Love it.
ME3 prices out of Scandinavia is just super crazy. No other airlines can beat them. And look at those services and amenities. WOW!

Thank you for a very well crafted trip report.
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Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:12 am

A very nice report. Glad that you enjoyed both sectors.

Quoting simpan97 (Reply 20):
If we discuss the 3-4-3 vs. 3-3-3 seating I can feel the difference. BUT I am used to fly a 737 with slim seats and thereby find the Emirates seats relatively good. I am although really disappointed that Emirates choosed the horrible 3-4-3 layout in front of the amazing 3-3-3 layout. I still find Emirates rather affordable but hate their way of employment and how the cabin staff is treated.

A 3-3-3 configuration would provide for wider seats but will cut down on seat pitch and overall capacity which ultimately impacts the affordability.

Simpan97, have you or someone close to you been employed with EK before? Your emotion on their employment is quiet strong.

Quoting simpan97 (Reply 20):
I understand that the trip report can feel biased because I am new writing reports and should maybe be more critical in my way of writing.

My advise: Just be honest and truthful (like you have been in this report). No need to get critical just so that some one on this forum feels you were unbiased....
 
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Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:42 pm

Quoting simpan97 (Reply 23):
Which seats numbers where empty on the 777-300ER?

There was a girl in the row 36 D-G and me in 36 H-K, but it was a 70% full plane, I'm sure there were more free rows, but I don't remember...

Quoting simpan97 (Reply 23):
You shouldn't believe Seat Guru in all cases

It's all a matter of taste, for me it's a great seat. Of course seatguru is good to make yourself an idea of seat configuration, and might help choosing your right seat... maybe that "yellow" helps with opportunities of being alone in a row  who knows!
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Thu Apr 09, 2015 7:38 pm

Quoting nethkt (Reply 26):
ME3 prices out of Scandinavia is just super crazy. No other airlines can beat them. And look at those services and amenities. WOW!
Quoting AirIndia (Reply 27):
Simpan97, have you or someone close to you been employed with EK before? Your emotion on their employment is quiet strong.

Yes, indeed. The prices are extremely low if you buy the tickets long in advance. That is maybe because of their interesting way of treating their staff. That you for example must tell the airline if you are married or pregnant. Hate is maybe a too strong word (not that strong in Swedish), but after many reports written about the employees, I feel concerned about the working conditions on the ME3 airlines.

Quoting AirIndia (Reply 27):
My advise: Just be honest and truthful (like you have been in this report). No need to get critical just so that some one on this forum feels you were unbiased....

Thank you "AirIndia" for helping me in this big A.net jungle. I am a new and inexperienced forum writer.
 
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Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:21 pm

Quoting mighluss (Reply 28):
It's all a matter of taste, for me it's a great seat. Of course seatguru is good to make yourself an idea of seat configuration, and might help choosing your right seat... maybe that "yellow" helps with opportunities of being alone in a row  who knows!

Yes indeed, Seat Guru is the best way to get a quick view over the aircraft. But to find the best seat in any class you need to look at pictures of the cabin and the seat you wish to have.

Quoting mighluss (Reply 28):
There was a girl in the row 36 D-G and me in 36 H-K, but it was a 70% full plane, I'm sure there were more free rows, but I don't remember...

The best advice when choosing a seat is to find a empty flight   
 
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Sat May 02, 2015 3:17 am

Nice report. Thanks for sharing.
 
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Fri May 22, 2015 8:19 pm

Quoting guitarsingapore (Reply 31):
Nice report. Thanks for sharing.

Thank you very much! I am thinking about writing a new report when flying with the British Airways A380 this summer, with the same focus, to find the best economy seat.
 
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Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:48 pm

Hi simpan97!

Funny that most people will trade pitch for width??

I've flown Emirates multiple times before and have had mostly good experiences with them. Mostly because of great legroom.
I truly love the 3-4-3 layout on Emirates as they offer a 33-inch pitch as oppose to a 31-32 on the 3-3-3 layout of other airlines.
I'm 6'2" and appreciates the legroom. The seat reclines really far back which imposes on the person behind you, but makes it much more comfortable for sleeping.
As I spend most of my time seated, it doesn't bother me if the passenger in front of me deeply reclines, but I get to do the same.
Getting out of any 3 seat configuration next to the window will result in asking your fellow passengers to get up anyway.
The isles are very narrow though. They are exactly the width of one seat. I've read others mentioning that they can't believe Emirates would opt for the 3-4-3 layout.
Who cares how difficult it is to enter and exit the jet? You'll be spending hours seated and trying to sleep which is much better if you have more leg and recline space instead of width.
The only other difference to me besides 1.5 inches of shoulder space you win with a 3-3-3 layout is that there are only 3 middle seats.
Someone is going to climb over you or you will climb over someone anyhow?

What I like about their seats as well is that the headrest can adjust six ways. Up, down, wings in and out and the top part used to be able to pull forwards towards your head. Not many people know this however and I didn't see many passengers using this function.
Do you know if it's still the case?

So as far as I'm concerned, make the seat as narrow as possible but give me legroom thank you Emirates  

Just thought I'll lay my own egg on this one as I've given it much thought in the past.

Interesting report.

Regards

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