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East Via West: AY+QR Business HEL-OSL-DOH-BKK

Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:14 am

Hi Guys!

In December I got a chance to try Qatar Airways Business Class OSL-DOH-BKK one way on B788 and A380. That was my first time on QR and 788, a long planned experience. The journey back included two more ordinary flights, first Thai Air Asia A320 Bangkok-Krabi and then Finnair A343 (Y) Krabi-Helsinki. But first I needed to get to OSL.

17 December 2014
AY 655 HEL-OSL
12:10 - 12:40
(1h 30min)
Airbus A319-112
Seat 7F
Economy Class


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To get my luggage tagged all the way to BKK I needed an oneworld carrier to OSL so it was AY for me. My separate tickets HEL-OSL and OSL-DOH-BKK made the AY agent first go "hmmmm..." but the luggage got the needed tag, she also printed the QR boarding passes for me. Most importantly, the HEL-OSL flight was not delayed, that was my biggest fear.

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A rather comfy seat on A319 and a decent legroom. The cabin was very clean.

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The AY version of 50 Shades of Grey...

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Not that cold day but some deicing needed first and then up we go.

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This much was served free on this 1h+ flight, blueberry juice and coffee.

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Not 11 but 19 x A350 ordered, what I've heard PVG will get the first one in October, before that some crew training on HEL-LHR route.

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The short hop was over soon, no complaints, except the overdose of grey color. I have to say OSL is not my favourite transit airport, it's often very crowded (expanding in process?) and feels it's not well designed for transit passengers. But the staff is always friendly. I escaped the crowds to the OSL Lounge used by QR and many others, even Norwegian it seems.

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My Nordic lounge lunch: potato salad, salmon, local lager. Thinking the smallish lounge is used by Qatar and Emirates I expected a bit more, more space and better food choices. Anyway the atmosphere was relaxed and cozy.

17 December 2014
QR 176 OSL-DOH
14:55 - 23:10
(6h 15min)
Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner
Seat 1K
Business Class


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It was time to get to my gate 51, first through the efficient security check, then to the unpleasantly packed gate area. I was pleased I didn't have stay there too long. My boarding pass printed by AY surprised the agent totally ("Finnair? No no...ah oh yes, sorry") I was told I needed new ones, after a couple of minutes I was handed the QR boarding passes and I could walk to the plane. I love the glass bridges!

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I was greeted by a stylish looking f/a, when I turned left my first though was wow this cabin looks good! The colors, the seats, everything.

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There were only a couple of seats left when I made the booking, the 1K was the only free window seat left. I thought it would be a bit too close to the galley and toilet but the seat itself was so great I soon forgot these minor things.

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I was served by a smart looking male f/a who brought me a glass of Billegart-Salmon champagne, rose champagne Henriot was available too. The welcoming drink came with a hot or cool towel. The 17" IFE screen was great, I only checked the flight maps but the Oryx system sure has a lots of everything.

A locker for a water bottle and headphones, the seat control with lots of fuctions.

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The amenity kit with Salvatore Ferragamo products, the Godiva chocolate box came with the coffee after the dinner.

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Flying over Sweden again so the moment needed some ABBA. Qatar Airways, Lay All Your Love On Me!

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Time to take off, six comfortable hours to Doha ahead. Our neighbour was a PIA B777 to Pakistan.

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Soon after the take off a "Palate pleaser" was served, gravlax on ryebread with mustard dressing. It tasted just perfect but I was hoping something less homely, for me gravlax means a quick lunch at work.

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The menu looked promising, my meal choice was arabic mezze, chicken Tikka and a lemon tart. The mezze and chicken were delicious, the tart was a bit bland, the lemon was lost somewhere. I didn't try any wines, was happy with champagne and mineral water.

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The male f/a serving me was a true professional, I really couldn't hope for more. It was just a bit confusing how he often kept his hand on my shoulder when he talked to me. There wasn't anything improper with that, just a minor culture clash when my inner Finn was shouting: Please don't touch me, I need my personal space!

After the meal I checked the toilet, the seat pair 6E/F in the back looked a bit lonely. There are just 22 Business seats on QR 788, the cabin felt so peaceful and yes the air is better on 787, my nose could tell that.

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This was one of those flights feeling much too short... We were approaching DOH, slightly behind the schedule.

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Bye 1K and thank you QR 788 for the wonderful ride!

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RE: East Via West: AY+QR Business HEL-OSL-DOH-BKK

Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:23 am

At first DOH looked a bit chaotic, long noisy queues to the security, shouting and pointing. The magic Premium wallet helped me quickly through, though. In the shiny new terminal I was welcome by a giat yellow teddybear.

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Naturally I wanted to see the Al Mourjan lounge, I knew it was big but the size and all the shine was still staggering, it's more like 'Lounge World'. Two floors, several restaurants, lounge rooms and other facilities. And packed with customers. I wasn't hungry so I just took some (very good) coffee and sweet baklavas. When I was wandering around taking pictures a lounge dragon came to me and asked: "Excuse me Sir, can I see your boarding pass please?" I probably looked like a Economy Class passenger lost in the Wonderland...

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Unfortunately I didn't have enough time to enjoy all the lounge services, had to get to my gate which was quite far from the lounge.

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Hmmm... Not this time, that baby would stuck in snow in HELsinki.

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I didn't notice any signs for the Business Class passengers so I chose the shortest queue, should have looked around the corner. At the gate a polite agent guided me to right direction to the upper deck.

18 December 2014
QR 836 DOH-BKK
01:55 - 12:10
(6h 15min)
Airbus A380-861
Seat 10A
Business Class


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My seat 10A next to the galley and toilet wasn't the best in the house, but didn't have much choice, I wanted a window seat. But seat itself was as great as on 788, comfortable and spacious, hard to beat. This time my choice for the welcome drink was Lemon & Mint, very nice.

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A short delay was announced but soon we took off, leaving Doha by night behind.

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The amenity kit was a bit different on this leg, containing Armani products. Later a pyjama was brought to me, didn't needed it though.

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The Ala Carte menu looked mouth watering, my choices for the late dinner were: Poached scallops in lemongrass and saffron, butternut squash and mascarpone ravioli with sweet corn and chili sauce. The drink choice was alcohol-free sparkling wine and a Laduree raspberry pastry for a dessert, with coffee.

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The meal was great, the small "Palate pleaser" being the highlight, absolutely delicious. The service on this flight was professional as expected but less personal than on the OSL-DOH leg. This was a night flight but the the cabin crew were busy, I got an impression they were some really demanding people sitting somewhere behind me. A grumpy looking elderly gentleman wearing a pyjama walked back and forth, I could hear his voice in the galley, don't know what was the problem.

Lucky me, it was Qatar National Day (Al-Yaoum-al-Watani) and the passengers got a Wi-Fi voucher for free. The connection was very s-l-o-w but did the job.

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Naturally I had to check the toilet and the bar in the back of the cabin. The bar looked stylish but I was too tired for a drink. I know, I'm a party pooper.

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After a short sleep it was breakfast time already, my choices were: Bircher muesli, carrot-ginger energizer and coffee. All very nice, but the serving was rather slow, every item was brought one by one, why not use a tray?

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Bangkok, here we come!

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We were landing soon, now I only needed an arrival card for the immigration but the f/a told me they have run out of the cards, "I'm so sorry, we are trying find more cards in other cabins". Just a minutes before BKK I was rushed a card, at the door I was handed a fast track pass for the immigration.

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Yes it's right what they say, QR have a great Business Class product, I especially liked the smaller cabin on B788, the ambiance, air quality and personal service. Comparing to Dreamliner the bigger cabin on A380 felt more restless (although less engine noise) and the service was a bit rushed but the flight was enjoyable nevertheless. Hopefully see you soon again QR, A350 perhaps?

The 2nd part of the report in process: Back to the basics, BKK-KBV-HEL on AirAsia and Finnair (Y).

A hotel tip for Bangkok: Furam Silom Hotel on Silom Rd, a good middle priced hotel close to the BTS station in the peaceful area, their rooftop pool gets sunshine all day.

Thank You for reading!

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RE: East Via West: AY+QR Business HEL-OSL-DOH-BKK

Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:56 am

Quoting HELyes (Thread starter):
Not 11 but 19 x A350 ordered, what I've heard PVG will get the first one in October, before that some crew training on HEL-LHR route.

Interesting. Will be nice to see some A350s at LHR. Any idea when they'll start?

Quoting HELyes (Thread starter):
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Nice. I had the same seat on my QR 787 flight DOH-LHR

Quoting HELyes (Thread starter):
Naturally I wanted to see the Al Mourjan lounge, I knew it was big but the size and all the shine was still staggering, it's more like 'Lounge World'. Two floors, several restaurants, lounge rooms and other facilities.

It's a giant lounge, isn't it. I think they could have designed it a little better so there is a pathway over the swimming pool area, as the diversion from one side to the other is quite long!

Quoting HELyes (Thread starter):
Naturally I had to check the toilet and the bar in the back of the cabin. The bar looked stylish but I was too tired for a drink. I know, I'm a party pooper.

I spent many hours there whehn I tired the A380 DOH-LHR is December. It's better on a day flight I think rather than a short overnight hop
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RE: East Via West: AY+QR Business HEL-OSL-DOH-BKK

Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:27 am

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 2):

Quoting HELyes (Thread starter):
Not 11 but 19 x A350 ordered, what I've heard PVG will get the first one in October, before that some crew training on HEL-LHR route.

Interesting. Will be nice to see some A350s at LHR. Any idea when they'll start?

Is that HEL-LHR route confirmed? Hopefully we will see it at ARN also.
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RE: East Via West: AY+QR Business HEL-OSL-DOH-BKK

Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:32 pm

Thanks for the comments!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 2):
I think they could have designed it a little better so there is a pathway over the swimming pool area, as the diversion from one side to the other is quite long!

Yes the huge pool is so dominating, I was standing there thinking am I supposed to swim to the other side?

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 2):
Interesting. Will be nice to see some A350s at LHR. Any idea when they'll start?
Quoting B747forever (Reply 3):

Is that HEL-LHR route confirmed? Hopefully we will see it at ARN also.

Nothing confirmed yet, the plan is to start the training flights in September, the first long haul flight to PVG in October. Oh yes ARN would be just perfect for me.
 
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RE: East Via West: AY+QR Business HEL-OSL-DOH-BKK

Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:22 pm

Hi HELyes!


Nice report first of all!

Good you could fly on both 787 as well as A380!
QRs new business class seats are looking great, quite an improvement over the old seats I think!

Onboard catering looks very tasty as always on QR. The new DOH airport looks nice as well, compared to the old one, that looks like heaven!
Also nice of QR that you can go online onboard.

thanks for the report,
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RE: East Via West: AY+QR Business HEL-OSL-DOH-BKK

Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:30 pm

Oh lovely stuff. I like reading about routes like this. Lucky you flying J, & really nice to see the QR A380! One of the few nice looking 380s out there. I loved the part about your "inner Finn", so it IS true!   

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RE: East Via West: AY+QR Business HEL-OSL-DOH-BKK

Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:18 pm

Nice trip report! That QR business seat looks really nice.
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RE: East Via West: AY+QR Business HEL-OSL-DOH-BKK

Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:12 pm

Thanks for the comments guys!

Quoting emek96 (Reply 5):
Onboard catering looks very tasty as always on QR.

I just wish I could try the rest of the menus right know, lovely stuff.

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 6):
I loved the part about your "inner Finn", so it IS true!

Hahaa yes true with me atleast ,) The Arab culture especially has been challening for me, my need for personal space caused a little scene in Morocco once...

Quoting teme82 (Reply 7):
That QR business seat looks really nice.

Oh yes I wish I had that seat on every flight, but I'm afraid that won't happen anytime soon  
 
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RE: East Via West: AY+QR Business HEL-OSL-DOH-BKK

Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:22 am

Hello HELyes,

I enjoyed reading your trip report with its comparison of the 787 and A380.

The seat looks comfortable enough and I do like that it is angled towards the window, making it easier to enjoy any views and offering some privacy.

Compared to the economy meals, QR's presentation looks very appealing. In fact, I would go so far as to say it is better than some airlines' offerings in first.

Thanks for sharing.
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RE: East Via West: AY+QR Business HEL-OSL-DOH-BKK

Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:53 am

EN, thanks for the comment!

Quoting ElanusNotatus (Reply 9):
I do like that it is angled towards the window, making it easier to enjoy any views and offering some privacy.

Yes the seat was great, I didn't tried the sleeping position though but I've read positive reviews.
 
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RE: East Via West: AY+QR Business HEL-OSL-DOH-BKK

Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:27 pm

Great report, and nice photos throughout your whole trip!

Looks like Finnair offered a good Economy Class product on your flight home. This is an airline not covered very often on this forum, so good to get an idea of what the service looks like.

Looking forward to your next report!

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Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:27 pm

Hi Matthew!

Yes been pleased with AY's Y product most of the times, got what I've paid for, nothing spectacular but especially this time the price-quality ratio was very good. Hopefully they will get into the next level with their new A350.
 
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Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:23 am

Quoting B747forever (Reply 3):

I'd be surprised if a short flight like HEL-ARN was chosen. The purpose of these flights is to train and familiarise the crew to the new equipment, flight to ARN is jus too short for that. Just my two cents.

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Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:46 pm

Quoting okay (Reply 13):
I'd be surprised if a short flight like HEL-ARN was chosen. The purpose of these flights is to train and familiarise the crew to the new equipment, flight to ARN is jus too short for that. Just my two cents.

Yes, HEL-ARN might be too short, but I still expect them to bring it here a couple of times. Great way to show case their new airplane/product for their Swedish customers, and they will be able to beat SAS by bringing the A350 to ARN (or CPH) before them.
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Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:33 pm

Quoting okay (Reply 13):
I'd be surprised if a short flight like HEL-ARN was chosen. The purpose of these flights is to train and familiarise the crew to the new equipment, flight to ARN is jus too short for that. Just my two cents.

LHR has been popping up in the gossips lately ...

Quoting B747forever (Reply 14):
Yes, HEL-ARN might be too short, but I still expect them to bring it here a couple of times. Great way to show case their new airplane/product for their Swedish customers, and they will be able to beat SAS by bringing the A350 to ARN (or CPH) before them.

AY doing flyover in Stockholm would be better  
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Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:43 pm

Quoting okay (Reply 13):
I'd be surprised if a short flight like HEL-ARN was chosen. The purpose of these flights is to train and familiarise the crew to the new equipment, flight to ARN is jus too short for that. Just my two cents.

AY have mentioned LHR but I wouldn't be surprised if ARN or other shorter route would be on the list too. When AY got their very first A340 (OH-LQA) in 2006 it first served on domestic routes KUO, OUL, RVN and in 2002 SK flew their new A340s (OY-KBA, OY-KBI) to HEL.


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Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:13 am

grat tr! I think the food that QR has is some of the best   I love me a good mezze...
 
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Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:50 am

Quoting rosskin92 (Reply 17):

grat tr! I think the food that QR has is some of the best   I love me a good mezze...

Thanks rosskin92! Oh yes their food was great and the mezze was the best part.

The meals looked slightly different when I returned home on AirAsia and Finnair in Y...   :
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Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:49 am

Amazing Trip Report! I enjoyed the pictures and reading it word for word!

Glad you found the Business seats comfortable and hard to beat; and great that in your flight, all the seats were consistent. HelYES, can't wait to see Finnair's new A350 cabin; Ive seen pictures already but can't wait to see it in real life.

Cant wait to see your next Trip Report!
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Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:07 pm

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 19):

Hi Qatar340, yes QR was a great experience!

Would be cool to see them in my home airport, they already announced HEL once but unfortunately that didn't materialize. HEL is not that big market and local AY is active in Asia but you can always hope ,)
 
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Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:12 am

Thank you for the long trip report. Very nicely done.
I love this business class product of QR. I'd say EY > QR > EK in terms of premium services.
Hope you had wonderful time in Thailand. Looking forward on your return to the land of smiles.
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Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:39 pm

A really nice report. On the subject of AY & their A359, a full list of dates & destinations can be found on their website.
 
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Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:42 pm

nethkt and theobcman, thanks for the comments!

Quoting nethkt (Reply 21):

Thailand is great, been returning there time after time, most probably on AY A350 next winter  
Quoting theobcman (Reply 22):

Yes the AY A350 details are out now, there were only rumours in Feb when the report was written.
 
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Sun May 03, 2015 12:31 am

HI Marko

Thanks for writing up this TR. I think this is probably one of the first TR for QR on the BKK route with A380(?). Their C class offering looks great and you managed to try it on two flights. Now just missing the A350!

By the way, what happen to the safety video? Did they change the cute guy out after a number of years? (Not sure if you have seen the previous version: Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGzaT1xeMh8)

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Sun May 03, 2015 7:18 pm

Quoting mdavies06 (Reply 24):

Hi!  

Yes was happy to get QR's 787-8 and 380 both, I just forgot the trip report rule: If you have a crappy camera avoid night flights... Their 350 is on my to do list now, perhaps combining with AY's 350 next winter.

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