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Domestically International: Flying The Jetstar 787

Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:07 pm

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Flights! Action Camera!

Oh boy, this sucks. To the cabin wall, that is.

My first real chance to play with my new toy and my first flights on a Dreamliner.

It was supposed to happen last year, but Jetstar cancelled on me and the truth is that I was glad. Big storms that day and a lot of shaken passengers. They gave me a voucher in recompense when I chose not to book an alternative flight on their A320s and six months to use it. That six months was almost up and though I could have booked something else for later in the year I chose to use it now.

I have a purpose. In a few weeks time I should be flying off to Japan. I don't want to be a misery guts again with my fear of turbulence, but I've found that every time I have thought about an overnight flights that the anxiety returns. This isn't good. I feel a sense of failure for not having confronted earlier this year, chickening out at the sight of storms to catch a bus back from Canberra.

So I'm going to catch that flight and stick to it, despite the forecast of strong winds and possible turbulence. And, inspired by the Qantas OJA flight and Pugsley's work here I'm going to figure out how to use my new Sony Action Cam to make videos from aircraft.

There are an increasing number of 787 operators flying to Sydney, but I don't have the time or money for an international flight right now. Fortunately, Jetstar run a couple of what I presume are positioning tags between Sydney and Melbourne. As someone who has flown Jetstar a lot over the past decade I was curious to experience their latest addition, but apparently bookings can be quite poor and it can be cheaper to fly empty, hence the earlier cancellation.

Having picked a day, I was surprised to see that it was possible to fly there and back on Jetstar 787-8s, something that doesn't seem to be available on a consistent basis. So I booked it.

The flights depart from and arrive at the respective international terminals. Whilst it is possible to check in online for many international flights with Jetstar, domestic passengers must be manually checked in to get their orange "D" sticker on their boarding pass and check in closes an hour before departure. So it was an early morning for me.

There was no queue to check in and I was given both my forward and return boarding pass but, and I didn't notice until too late, there was no "D" sticker on the return pass. This caused me a little grief later.

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Watching passengers from the food court


Domestic passengers have their own lane through immigration in Sydney, but have to pass through the same security. Only photo identification is required however, not necessarily a passport.

Sydney's International Terminal is undergoing yet another round of renovation with Heinemann having taken over the Duty Free service. Dick Smith are now responsible for the electronics and I couldn't work out if they were shutting down the Sony section. I hope not.

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The electronics section is looking a bit depleted


I tried to still the knot of anxiety building up inside my stomach and caught the escalator up to the Qantas business lounge. Might as well make use of my Qantas Club membership and get the breakfast I hadn't yet eaten.

The entry attendant was curious about my 787 flights and enquired about their price - generally around the same price or cheaper than the standard Jetstar Melbourne flights.

The lounge was also afflicted by construction work obscuring some of the view on to the tarmac. It's not the best spotting area anyway - insert First Class envy. There was a variety of breakfast foods available. I went for the hot food, but I reckon that there was a bit too much garlic in the sausages because I could taste it for hours afterwards.

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View from the lounge


After breakfast I headed out to look around and enjoy the beautiful morning views of aircraft operations. Then I walked down to our gate.

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My next long haul flight should be on a Qantas 747-400


I have to say straight up that I think the 787 is one good looking aircraft. The elegantly curved wings, the big chevroned engines and well shaped nose. And the Jetstar livery has to be one of the best on her with its silvery reflections off the body.

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Asiana creeps up behind


Right beside our aircraft was another 787-8, this one belonging to Air India. Not such a great livery in my opinion, but certainly distinctive with its Mughal style window decorations. It taxies out, to be replaced by a colourful Asiana 772, one of the few 777s I've flown on.

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Air India's 787


Eventually it was time to board, no particular sequence being enforced, probably due to the light load. The cabin is a sea of black leather seats in a 3-3-3 configuration. I took my spot near the front of the left wing and have the row to myself.

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A sea of black leather
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Seats


I don't generally mind the seating configuration as it means that my family of three can sit together by the window rather than the centre, which is how the A332s that the 787 is replacing are configured. I found the legroom fine, though no doubt the longer legged would complain. My issue was with the width. I am wider than I should be and just fit in. For family flights this should not be an issue and with two empty seats beside me no hassle for me on the outwards leg. But on the return...

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I forgot the Qantas lounge dress code starts in April


The seats themselves were comfortable enough. I didn't test the recline or the winged headrest, but definitely no complaints for an hour in the air.

Whilst many low cost airlines do away with seatback entertainment and even some full service carriers, including Jetstar's parent Qantas, substitute screens with tablets and wifi streaming in many cases, I was pleased when Jetstar decided to install them in their new 787s. They are convenient, mounted around eye level and don't require charging or preloading. The touch screens are clear and of a decent resolution, not ugly touch layer and are quite responsive.

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Seatback screens


The selections are quite disappointing, few movies or televisions shows I'd really want to watch, but probably enough should I want some distraction in the middle of the night, and that is all I really ask for. The music choice was entirely dissatisfying with very little choice.

Jetstar also offers streamed entertainment to Apple devices. Unfortunately not for the more popular Android platform or laptops so I couldn't test this.

Both the streaming and seatback entertainment is charged at A$10, but the most important channel for an A.nut - the flight map - is available for free. So that's what I set it to, right at the gate.

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Flight map


For other types of charging, the electrical kind, there is a USB port on the screen that I think can be used to display media files from, say, a flash drive (untested) and a power socket in between the seats (also untested).

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The Jetstar Mag


I used a dashboard suction cup to attach my Sony action camera to the walls so that it could point out the window. It did mean that some window edges were visible in the video, but I wasn't sure if I would get away with attaching it to the window proper.

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A Sony AS100 Action Cam with suction cup mount


Due to the location of the window the setup was hidden by the seat, but the cabin crew, who all seemed to come from Asia, didn't seem to notice or care anyway.

Now I was all ready to set out. Be still my nervous heart!

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Blue mood lighting


After a manual flight and screen safety demonstration we taxied out towards the third runway for a take off towards the north. As we waited to line up with the runway the Retro Roo appeared behind us, my first ground view of the Qantas retro liveried 737-800. Then off we went, rocketing into the sky with our light load. Unfortunately, from my position, the massive wing flex wasn't so apparent, though I've certainly seen it from the ground.

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We'll be farewelling another, or is it the last, A340 soon
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China Southern
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The CBD in the background
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The Retro Roo
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Almost ready to play the piano


We turned right, giving me some brief but fantastic views of the CBD before turning southwards over the ocean and along the coast towards Wollongong.

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Look at that wing!
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Out to sea?
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Famous Sydney CBD
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The seatbelt lights were soon switched off and the electronic windows suddenly dimmed. Locked at their second lowest setting, giving them a blue tint. Damn. But at least I could still see out. At the same time the mood lighting was changed from blue to dawn or dusk orange. Quite a strange effect and not really so appropriate for passengers who should be in a wakeful phase.

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It's gone blue!
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Blue wing!
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It's like we are looking into an aquarium
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Window tint control
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Red in the morning, shephard's warning


Anyway, there was a cloud layer below us blocking out most of the view and this is a route that I have been on quite often and could accept the lack of a view. Mostly I was trying to focus on relaxing my anxiety. As soon as we were in cruise the flightdeck announced that we were at 13,000 feet and that high winds could be expected on the lower levels as we approached Melbourne.

That made me anxious.

I listened to music on my phone. That was good.

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Now the mood's gone blue again


The crew came through selling food. I had purchased a "Plus" bundle with my fare, mainly for the points and the flexibility, but it also included $5 worth of food or drink. After my stay in the Qantas lounge I wasn't particularly hungry, but I ordered the $5 muffin and hot beverage bundle, choosing the hot chocolate. I ended up not eating much of the muffin, which lead to a quizzical look from an attendant,  as I'd had a much nicer one at the lounge, but I did finish the hot chocolate, which was just your basic powdered sort, nothing special.

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Banana bread muffin and Taboo hot chocolate



The cruise time was quite short and with thirty minutes to go we began our descent towards Melbourne. One of the great things about the flight map is the reminder of the time remaining to the destination. As the clock ticket down I would say to myself "only 15 minutes of bumps to go, only 10 minutes of bumps to go until we are on the ground."

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Tints gone!


Those bumps only began once we approached the lower cloud layer and to be honest, they weren't so bad. And soon I was distracted by the sight of the Melbourne CBD as we curved around for an approach to the airport from the south.

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Dark clouds threaten
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Melbourne CBD
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Turning
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The lines don't agree
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Made it!
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And here we are!



We landed with a heavy thump, a very hard touchdown. Melbourne has a few interesting airlines in attendance, including Royal Brunei and Sichuan Airlines, with whom I once caught an ERJ-145 in China. I also saw the Air India 787 having preceded us with its own domestic tag down from Sydney.

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Hello again Air India!
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It don't matter if it's black or white
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Fire and water?
I like artificial banana essence!
 
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RE: Domestically International: Flying The Jetstar 787

Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:09 pm

I have only passed through Melbourne's International Terminal once before. You will forgive me for not taking much notice that time as I was without my wife carrying our toddler son who was ridden with a bad bout of gastro and we had just arrived after an overnight flight from Singapore.

This time I was in no great rush and a good thing that was too.

Both Sydney and Melbourne's international terminals retain an older, darker, low ceiling design that their more distinguished international cousins have lost as they built airy cathedrals of steel and glass. I don't mind, for these are not transit hub airports, but places where adventures start and end, places where passengers come and go but do not linger.

And unlike a normal transit airport arrivals and departures are separated by vertical height, unable to mix but for special circumstances. As I left there docking gate there were high glass windows overlooking the tarmac, but then we were into a dark warren of pathways to immigration and bag collection (I had none, of course).

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Departure gate below
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I now understand the complaints about Melbourne's immigration queues because, yes, they were long, though we had a somewhat dedicated domestic and special lane. The Jetstar crew pushed ahead of us, seemingly in a hurry for their next flight.

Customs was worse, slowed by arriving Chinese and Vietnamese flights and no special path for domestic arrivals.

Once finally out the exit I went straight back in again. Inverse to Sydney, security comes before immigration in Melbourne and there is no special immigration queue. But at least here the queue was short.

I ran into trouble at the immigration desk as my return boarding pass had no orange D sticker for domestic. Eventually immigration adjudged me as telling the truth and stamped the pass.

Needing to do some work I hurried past all the shops and tried to find the Qantas lounge. The lounges are buried below the gates and disappointingly the Qantas Business Lounge has no outside views whatsoever.

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Airside
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Qantas Business Lounge


I found a quiet spot in the quiet lounge and setup my laptop and chargers. There were some nice snacks, lollies, crackers, lemon shortbread and soon the lunch buffet was opened. I had some creamy zucchini soup, roast chicken and salad and felt very satisfied.

But it was dark and I felt constrained inside the lounge, so I left for my departure gate. There were at least three Jetstar 787-8s on the tarmac and I saw the yellow and white Royal Brunei 787 take-off. It seems the airport is a bit of a hub for the type, as Sydney is for the A380.

I even spotted the Retro Roo again.

I actually missed my gate and went on to the next one, also hosting one of the JQ 787s. I explained the predicament about the missing D sticker, and it turned out they had some, but because immigration had already stamped my pass there was nothing to be done.

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Walking to the gate
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Our aircraft VH-VKH
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Royal Brunei taking off
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The other flight. Nice nose.


I realised my gate mistake when an announcement apologised that our flight would be departing an hour late. It seems that my phone already had the updated arrival time but the old departure time, leading to what looked like a longer than expected flight.

We still began boarding roughly an hour early. This time the flight looked crowded and passengers in the rear zone were asked to queue first. I was in the second tranche and was disappointed to find two passengers already in the aisle and middle seats. They were polite enough, but the lady in the middle was rather large in size, obviously unused to the contortions demanded by packed public transport and I spent the flight with an elbow in my ribs and her thighs crossing over into my line of seat from beneath the arm rest.

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Red again
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Too close for comfort!


I could see some breaks in the cloud, but it was still very windy outside. That flight down had given me confidence and I no longer felt quite so terrified. In fact I was feeling quite sleepy from the early rise and as we taxied out I drifted off into sleep until we were close to the main runway.

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Retro Roo again!



There were bumps and shakes as we took off as the swirling air tried to play with us, but the 787 seemed to handle it really well. Perhaps it was the flexible wing, I'm not sure. I was fine.

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Wing flex
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Big turn
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Approaching the cloud


Soon we were above the wind and heading home. The windows were darkened, but this time manual override was permitted. With the Sun reflecting off the wing and directly at me I dialed the light down and realised what a handy feature it was, far more flexible than mechanical shades and good for those that like to keep peeping outside.

I suspect some windows were stuck as at least one of them was at maximum darkness since take-off.

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One window here is stuck blue, no mood
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The Sun
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At maximum
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The crew, who sounded mainly Malaysian, seemed slow to get going. When they reached me, who again had a $5 credit, they seemed to have run out of some goods. I'm not certain they understood my request for Pringles (I wasn't really hungry) as I got served nothing by the end. Not good, though not needed.

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Down towards the cloud


Our flight time on this leg was a little less than an hour and with 20 minutes to go we began our descent into Sydney. Our descent through the cloud layer seemed even bumpier than in Melbourne, but again the 787 handled it with aplomb.

We curved over the southern suburbs. I suppose, if the wing hadn't been in the way, that I might have seen our house. Then we flew out over the water and turned to approach the main runway from the south.

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Brakes!
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Curving around to face northwards


I watched the flaps deploy to a greater angle than I have noticed before and I wonder if that is due to the unique wing design.

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Those flaps


Another hard landing, though somewhat softer this time and we were trundling to the gate.

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Back in Sydney
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Time to go!


It seems that 4.30 pm is a great time to arrive in Sydney's International Airport. There are plenty of international flights departing around this time, but we seemed to be the only passengers going the other way, passing through immigration and customs with only the most cursory checks, most stands being closed. I suspect that, despite the aircraft continuing on to Honolulu, most passengers were doing a domestic run like me.

And then I was out and ready to go home.

I have to say that I was very impressed with the Boeing 787. Not only is it good looking on the outside, but it's pretty cool on the inside as well. The cabin looks a little modern bland, but the electronic windows are useful. It was a bit difficult to judge the difference in cabin pressure and humidity after only an hour in the air each way, but I did notice some pressure differentials upon descent.

The JQ fitout is nice, if a little squishy. It doesn't feel as low cost as Scoot or AirAsiaX, more like a middle of the road airline, which is quite okay for me. I would be quite happy to fly on the Jetstar 787 to, say, Japan in future.

I really enjoyed those flights. I'm not quite sure that I have rediscovered my love for flying again, but at least some of the edge has gone for now.

And I do like my action cam. You can check out my sped up YouTube video of the take-offs, landings and more. Or see the whole set of photos.
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Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:01 pm

Great report Allrite, I've been waiting to see this one since I saw your teaser pic the other day!
To say I throughly enjoyed the video is an understatement! Brilliant, I'm going to need to teach myself how to upload to YouTube now! I thought the wing flex would be more prominent in the images as to the human eye it seems so extreme.

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I'm not certain they understood my request for Pringles (I wasn't really hungry) as I got served nothing by the end. Not good, though not needed.

This would drive me mad, I can't stand when this happens... If that was me, I'd start quoting my mum and dad at this point while wifey would be telling me to calm down... " well I can't complain about the service, as there is none!"

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They were polite enough, but the lady in the middle was rather large in size, obviously unused to the contortions demanded by packed public transport and I spent the flight with an elbow in my ribs and her thighs crossing over into my line of seat from beneath the arm rest.

I get that middle seats are not fun, but we need to share this arm rest and get your feet outa my leg space.

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I used a dashboard suction cup to attach my Sony action camera to the walls so that it could point out the window. It did mean that some window edges were visible in the video, but I wasn't sure if I would get away with attaching it to the window proper.

Hahah... I just stick it straight on the window. I like how compact your setup is, mine is massive compared to yours, and I hadn't actually tried to stick it to the wall, clearly it worked well!
Really enjoyable report, and you've really put the cat amongst the pigeons and made me think about what I can do for my upcoming JQ flights. Thanks for the shout out as well!
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Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:29 pm

Hi allrite,
Nice to read another good report from you. I'll also have to watch your videos too.
Flying is always a pleasant way to spend a day, all the more so if it is free. Congratulations on getting the day pass from your wife  
The 787 looks good, very sleek and modern from the front. I'll get to fly my first one Sunday...
And good that the apprehension is on the wan!
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Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:48 pm

Nice report!

I've been on a few UA 787 segments in the States, and I've enjoyed every one. I think the aircraft is a looker, plus I love the huge windows, the tinting feature, the quiet noise levels, and how well she handles turbulence. It's a fantastic aircraft.
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RE: Domestically International: Flying The Jetstar 787

Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:29 am

Quoting pugsley (Reply 2):
To say I throughly enjoyed the video is an understatement! Brilliant, I'm going to need to teach myself how to upload to YouTube now!

Thank you! Likewise I need to discover how to upload video to Instagram.   YouTube is dead easy - get a Google/YouTube account, ensure your video file is in a standard format (likely already is) and drag and drop it your browser.

Quoting pugsley (Reply 2):
This would drive me mad, I can't stand when this happens...

I initially wanted cheese and crackers... all out. And we started our descent soon afterwards. I was full anyway from the lounge. So I wasn't really fussed.

Quoting pugsley (Reply 2):
Hahah... I just stick it straight on the window. I like how compact your setup is, mine is massive compared to yours, and I hadn't actually tried to stick it to the wall, clearly it worked well!

Window would have worked better with no edges intruding. But I was trying to be unobtrusive and not block the view of others.

Quoting signol (Reply 3):
Congratulations on getting the day pass from your wife



Maybe I had to fly for work... Well I do next Tuesday... though I think I'd rather catch the train to Canberra, just for something different seeing as it looks like only boring Virgin ATR72 turboprops are going to match the corporate price policy.  
Quoting SunsetLimited (Reply 4):
I think the aircraft is a looker, plus I love the huge windows, the tinting feature, the quiet noise levels, and how well she handles turbulence.

I agree!
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RE: Domestically International: Flying The Jetstar 787

Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:17 am

Hey allrite. Great TR. Is Jetstar a low cost carrier like FR or like a normal carrier? The 787 in Jetstar looked great. Really hope one day that I can go to Australia. Anyways thanks and great TR  
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RE: Domestically International: Flying The Jetstar 787

Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:34 am

Quoting lesfalls (Reply 6):
Is Jetstar a low cost carrier like FR or like a normal carrier?

Yes, Jetstar is considered a low cost carrier. You have to pay extra for luggage (other than 7kg of cabin luggage), preselected seating and food. I find their timing a bit unreliable too, but for a leisure airline I don't find it a big issue most of the time.

I have good and extensive interactions with their call centre.

As I said in the report, they feel less like some of their barebones LCC peers in Asia. I have a fondness for them.
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Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:16 am

Great report. 2 months ago I flew the 787 from Sydney down here to Melbourne and its quite a nice little ride.

I have some videos on youtube somewhere. The weather in Melbourne was the same - terrible, but we landed towards the south. You look like you landed on 34 which is the VOR arrival over Essendon!
 
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Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:57 am

That was very quick of you to upload/write the report! It takes me months lol.

I very much enjoyed reading, seeing the photos and watching the video.

Quoting allrite (Thread starter):
I have to say straight up that I think the 787 is one good looking aircraft.

Indeed.

Quoting allrite (Thread starter):
And the Jetstar livery has to be one of the best on her with its silvery reflections off the body.

I disagree here. While the newer ones such as VKG and VKH arent so bad, the paint quality on Jetstar's first few 787s is awful. Case in point, look at how uneven the paint is along the top of the fuselage here:

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It is a pet peeve of mine whenever I see them.

Quoting allrite (Thread starter):
As we waited to line up with the runway the Retro Roo appeared behind us, my first ground view of the Qantas retro liveried 737-800.
Quoting allrite (Reply 1):
I even spotted the Retro Roo again.
Quoting allrite (Reply 1):
Retro Roo again!

Lucky! That aircraft (and Mendoowoorrji) always seem to elude me.

Quoting allrite (Thread starter):
The seatbelt lights were soon switched off and the electronic windows suddenly dimmed. Locked at their second lowest setting, giving them a blue tint. Damn. But at least I could still see out.

The tint system is fantastic, but it is annoying when the FAs forget to 'unlock' the system.

Quoting allrite (Thread starter):
It don't matter if it's black or white

The black ones look a bit better, but the Teal ones look best of all.  
Quoting pugsley (Reply 2):
To say I throughly enjoyed the video is an understatement! Brilliant

Likewise and the video quality is excellent! I'm curious though as to how large the video file was after all that recording?
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RE: Domestically International: Flying The Jetstar 787

Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:16 am

Quoting joffie (Reply 8):
I have some videos on youtube somewhere. The weather in Melbourne was the same - terrible, but we landed towards the south. You look like you landed on 34 which is the VOR arrival over Essendon!

I love the way you encounter both airports when driving to the CBD. That was my neck of the woods when growing up in Melbourne, even (briefly) played cricket for an Essendon team.

Quoting zkojq (Reply 9):
That was very quick of you to upload/write the report! It takes me months lol.

Practice plus a very late night!

Quoting zkojq (Reply 9):
I disagree here. While the newer ones such as VKG and VKH arent so bad, the paint quality on Jetstar's first few 787s is awful. Case in point, look at how uneven the paint is along the top of the fuselage here:

I didn't know this nor notice it on the 787s on this trip. But most of the time they are flying overhead and it's not so obvious!

Quoting zkojq (Reply 9):
The black ones look a bit better, but the Teal ones look best of all.

Agree totally!

Quoting zkojq (Reply 9):
I'm curious though as to how large the video file was after all that recording?

The raw 1080/25 MP4 video of take-off and landing was between 2.2 GB - 3.2 GB each file. Combined, sped up by around 1500% and rendered at 720/50 the MP4 was around 276 MB. I just didn't have the time to output and upload higher quality. I should probably have done more post-processing, but I'm new to it and don't have the time or the software - only Adobe Premiere Elements 11 and some Sony bundled stuff.
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RE: Domestically International: Flying The Jetstar 787

Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:44 am

Thank you for a very entertaining trip report!

A great read, and photos and video. You really put me almost on the flight as well! I have yet to fly on a Dreamliner, or Jetstar for that matter. Also the domestic internationally was very interesting to read.

As mentioned, I too thought the wing flex was going to be more prominent from your seating allocation, as it looks viewing it from the outside.  cool 

The Retro Roo comments, so funny, I am still giggling.. as another poster mentioned, people would like to see it at least just once.. I noticed it was taxiing behind in the video too! You were really synced with it!   

Also, I like the way that you mention about your anxiety on your flights. I wasn't sure whether to add it into my trip reports, but I like your honesty with that aspect, and how you felt and deal with it. Thanks.

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RE: Domestically International: Flying The Jetstar 787

Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:09 am

Quoting VapourTrails (Reply 11):
As mentioned, I too thought the wing flex was going to be more prominent from your seating allocation, as it looks viewing it from the outside.

Having just watched a Scoot 787 fly you really notice the shape of the wings from the outside, not just the flex. Also, when over the wing you don't have much to compare the curvature with so it's more difficult to notice. From the outside you've got the engines, fuselage and possibly the ground.

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Quoting VapourTrails (Reply 11):
Also, I like the way that you mention about your anxiety on your flights. I wasn't sure whether to add it into my trip reports, but I like your honesty with that aspect, and how you felt and deal with it. Thanks.

Thanks. I'm hoping I won't have to talk about it much for the next couple of trips. Although the cyclones seem to be getting active late this season. Last April I ran into problems with Cyclone Ita...

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RE: Domestically International: Flying The Jetstar 787

Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:22 am

Quoting allrite (Reply 12):
Having just watched a Scoot 787 fly you really notice the shape of the wings from the outside, not just the flex. Also, when over the wing you don't have much to compare the curvature with so it's more difficult to notice. From the outside you've got the engines, fuselage and possibly the ground.

Thank you for that explanation, and the photograph!

Quoting allrite (Reply 12):
Thanks. I'm hoping I won't have to talk about it much for the next couple of trips. Although the cyclones seem to be getting active late this season. Last April I ran into problems with Cyclone Ita...

Doesn't sound relaxing..scheduled flying and cyclone weather. The biggest storm, what I called a storm, I am sure it is just normal weather there, was on a flight leaving CGK on a 747. It didn't seem so bad on a large aircraft. I have had a few Bass Strait crossings north-south-north on a turboprop and it doesn't take much there to feel buffeted. I worry when they don't serve refreshments, because it is too turbulent.     

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RE: Domestically International: Flying The Jetstar 787

Fri Mar 20, 2015 4:24 am

Quoting VapourTrails (Reply 13):
Doesn't sound relaxing..scheduled flying and cyclone weather. The biggest storm, what I called a storm, I am sure it is just normal weather there, was on a flight leaving CGK on a 747. It didn't seem so bad on a large aircraft. I have had a few Bass Strait crossings north-south-north on a turboprop and it doesn't take much there to feel buffeted. I worry when they don't serve refreshments, because it is too turbulent.

I went through a period where I was terrified of turbulence and it seemed like the seatbelt lights were switched on every flight. Then there were a couple of years when I barely saw them and I was a happy flyer. Then in 2013 the turbulence returned and we passed by some typhoons/cyclones and generally nasty weather - one of the worst at the tail end of CBR-SYD. It is most likely associated with climate cycles (eg El Nino/La Nina) with a dose of extra heat from climate change thrown in. For instance, the surface of the coral sea is currently very warm, thus a few big cyclones in the past few weeks. Hopefully they will remove some of that latent energy and we'll have a nice smooth flight to Tokyo and back. We'll see!  

I'm glad when they stop serving refreshments. The thought of flying carts, glasses and cups of coffee in a cabin is very scary!
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Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:16 am

Thanks for the great Trip Report!
It was great to see the JQ 787-8 product. Quite excited to try it myself now on a flight next month to DPS

Also interesting to read about the process of flying a domestic leg from the international terminal!
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Mon Mar 23, 2015 1:51 am

Quoting byronicle6 (Reply 15):
It was great to see the JQ 787-8 product. Quite excited to try it myself now on a flight next month to DPS

Also interesting to read about the process of flying a domestic leg from the international terminal!

Should be a fun trip! I've done a few domestic routes through international terminals - come to think of it now I've done SYD-MEL before on a QF747 (return was my first flight with JQ, on an A320 from AVV). My favourite was arriving back in SYD from Japan with a BNE-SYD tag. One older bearded thong and singlet wearing guy walked up to immigration in SYD with "G'day love, I haven't got a passport. I'm just down from Queensland!"
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RE: Domestically International: Flying The Jetstar 787

Tue Mar 24, 2015 3:36 pm

Quoting allrite (Reply 5):
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I need to discover how to upload video to Instagram. YouTube is dead easy - get a Google/YouTube account, ensure your video file is in a standard format (likely already is) and drag and drop it your browser.

Uploading to Instagram is easy for me, but it's probably cause I'm still very low tech and keeping everything very very basic. Using wifi, I connect my GoPro to the GoPro App (convenient!) on my iPad/iPhone and save the photos I need for the timelapse directly on the iDevice camera roll in an album automatically called "GoPro". Then I use another app on my iDevice called Timelapse which builds my video from the photos I've saved in my camera roll. Once it's how I like it I then save the video to my iDevice so I can then use the Instagram App to upload the video, which also happens to be saved to my camera roll. The ease of technology! I really should g to the next level and get some HD images working and involve some proper editing using my computer... But that's a whole new level of time wasting I don't think I can afford at the moment!

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But I was trying to be unobtrusive and not block the view of others.

I thought about that but then thought... Nah... I really want to make my video so I put it up. I always seem to have the seat recliner, arm rest stealer, foot space hog around me... So I've become the window view destroyer with my GoPro mount!
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RE: Domestically International: Flying The Jetstar 787

Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:57 am

Quoting pugsley (Reply 17):
Uploading to Instagram is easy for me, but it's probably cause I'm still very low tech and keeping everything very very basic.

Okay... Maybe I won't be uploading to Instagram any day soon, except for photos in which I need to somehow become young, hip and willing to do cool poses in order to win things again...  
Quoting pugsley (Reply 17):
So I've become the window view destroyer with my GoPro mount!

On the plus side that makes it impossible to put the window shades down, so I imagine that there are many airlines that won't be nice.
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RE: Domestically International: Flying The Jetstar 787

Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:00 am

Hi Mate!

Great trip report and excellent pics!

I love the fact that here on the East Coast there are possibilities to catch a JQ 787 on a short domestic hop.

I logged my first A330-200 with JQ on SYD-MEL on the tag on sector before the MEL-BKK leg.

It cost me $35  

When I have a free day I plan to do the same kind of day trip with the JQ 788 but since I allready logged a 788 with UA I'm not going to rush.

Having said that, I'm thinking about flying SYD-SIN-OOL just to fly on the Scoot 789 as I haven't logged a 789 yet - but that would be a very long and expensive way just to get from SYD to OOL  

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RE: Domestically International: Flying The Jetstar 787

Fri Mar 27, 2015 3:26 am

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 19):
Having said that, I'm thinking about flying SYD-SIN-OOL just to fly on the Scoot 789 as I haven't logged a 789 yet - but that would be a very long and expensive way just to get from SYD to OOL

What about a New Zealand flight? I've seen NZ 789s fly to SYD, though I'm not sure if that was a regular or proving service.
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Fri Mar 27, 2015 4:41 am

Quoting allrite (Reply 20):


What about a New Zealand flight? I've seen NZ 789s fly to SYD, though I'm not sure if that was a regular or proving service.


  
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Sat Mar 28, 2015 12:12 am

Quoting allrite (Reply 20):
Quoting 777Jet (Reply 19):
Having said that, I'm thinking about flying SYD-SIN-OOL just to fly on the Scoot 789 as I haven't logged a 789 yet - but that would be a very long and expensive way just to get from SYD to OOL

What about a New Zealand flight? I've seen NZ 789s fly to SYD, though I'm not sure if that was a regular or proving service.

If I can time the SYD-SIN-OOL flights on Scoot just after the last 772 leaves the fleet but before the first 788 arrives I know there can be no equipment operating the flight other than the 789  

With NZ There is more risk of an equipment swap, given that 772s, 773s, 763s, A320s and who knows what else fly on the AKL-SYD route with the 789.

I was thinking of a quick trip to AKL on the LA 343 before it's gone followed by a return on the NZ 789 but again, I really feel that I would be the poor victim of an epuipment swap knowing my luck  

I have always wanted to try Scoot too as I've already logged NZ before.

Quoting byronicle6 (Reply 21):
NZ 789 to AKL and LA 789 back to SYD or vice versa

Now I would consider that if the LA 789 was on the route for sure. If I did that I'd try to catch one more ride on the NZ 763 going the other way though... But, with my luck, a LA 788 might turn up on the day  

Worst scenario: booking LA 789 and NZ 763 and getting two equipment swaps ending up on LA 788 and NZ 772 lol...
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