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Trade Air, The Brasilia In Croatia, And Air Serbia

Sat Apr 11, 2015 6:54 pm

Dobrodošli

Ever heard of an airline named Trade Air? No? Neither have I, until the end of last year, when I checked out some possible flights for my first trip in 2015. Always on the lookout for small airlines flying with rare plane types I stumbled upon this little company offering domestic flights within Croatia, usually operated with the Embraer E120 “Brasilia” turboprop, leased from the Hungarian company Budapest Air Service. In the summer schedule they also operate a couple of charter flights with their own Fokker 100, but during the winter they only have one single route from Zagreb to Osijek, the biggest city in Slavonia which is the easternmost region of Croatia. Sounds interesting, doesn't it? And since that flight also had a reasonable price tag, I couldn't resist to book it.

Now to get to Zagreb was easy, I took advantage of a good offer by germanwings from Stuttgart. But it was way more difficult to figure out how to continue from Osijek, since they only have three possible flights in the winter schedule (that is per week of course, not per day). And all these flights go back to Zagreb and depart at 6 in the morning. No, thank you very much, let's look for alternatives. Well, Osijek is not far from the border to Serbia, so I decided to add this country to my list of visited places as well and booked a return flight with Air Serbia from Belgrade to Stuttgart. I have heard many good things about this airline so I was eager to try them out as well. There are a couple of daily buses from Osijek to Belgrade so it shouldn't be a problem to get to the Serbian capital in time.

All settled then, let's draw some lines on the map:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/map.gif
Map generated by the Great Circle Mapper - copyright © Karl L. Swartz.


Flight 1: STR-ZAG


15.03.2015
germanwings 4U2976
Stuttgart - Zagreb
Distance: 613 km / 331 nm
Airbus A319 (D-AKNQ)
Seat 20F
scheduled 10:20 – 11:35
actual 11:06 – 12:14
flight-time 11:09 – 12:09 (60 minutes)

It was a pleasant but cool Sunday morning. My dad took me to the airport and he dropped me of just outside of the terminal:



Let's check the status of my flight on the board, no problem so far with Zagreb from gate 124:


http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_001.jpg

Security was quite busy today in the main terminal, so I walked over to T2 where the line indeed was much shorter. They have however one of the new nudie scanners there, it was my first time through one, and it seems to me that it takes much longer than a normal checkpoint. It's not really complicated (get in, stand still for a second, get out) but it was quite funny to watch how some people just didn't get it. Anyway I made it through with still time to walk around and see what's there to see. Well, airplanes of course. Like this Austrian Fokker:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_003.jpg

Or the famous Delta flight to Atlanta, just about ready to depart:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_004.jpg

Bus boarding from a downstairs gate today, and boarding was called right on time. But once in the bus nothing happened first, then the agent came back and asked all to return to the terminal, because the plane “wasn't yet ready”. Alright then, back in the gate area, a little later another announcement, technical problems, further delay, more info later. Oh dear I thought, that might take a while. But only about 15 minutes later they were on the speakers again, they found another plane and would start boarding soon. Apparently though a downgrade from the scheduled A320 to an A319 which meant that some of the pax had to get new boarding passes. This was handled quite well in a very professional manner though. Boarding take two started then and this time all went well, the driver brought us to D-AKNQ, a 15 year old airbus, flying for USAirways for a while, before starting its time with germanwings:



A full plane load then, everybody take your seats please:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_006.jpg

Aeroflot next to BA parked at the terminal:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_007.jpg

And Superman was flying with us today, well, at least on the magazine:



Brotzeit anyone? Not for me today, I just had a fresh bretzel back in the terminal:



The Captain was on the horn then with a friendly 'Moin Moin' and another apology for the delay, but with a rather short flying time today we would be gaining a few minutes back on the way. The route should take us via Salzburg, Klagenfurt in Austria, then over Slovenia directly down to Zagreb. All on flight level 390. Only a short taxi to runway 07 and off we went into the hazy skies:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_010.jpg

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_011.jpg

Crossing the mountains on the way, great views of course over the snowy peaks and valleys:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_013.jpg

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_014.jpg

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_015.jpg

And only a short time later descent started. Flaps already extended on the way to runway 05 over the Croatian countryside:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_016.jpg

Back on terra firma after exactly one hour in the air:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_017.jpg

At the parking position just around 40 minutes late, not bad at all considering a last minute unplanned equipment change. Well done here, germanwings! And looks like we are indeed at the desired destination:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_018.jpg

Goodbye to the crew, by bus to the terminal. Zagreb airport is not too big and also not the most pleasant place but quite efficient it seems and I was out quickly. The bus stop was easy to find and I made my way into the city center.

Zagreb



I decided to spent a night here in this city to have some time to explore it. I had booked a room in a small bed-and-breakfast in this building. Not too inviting from the outside:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_033.jpg

But inside it was absolutely lovely, great staff and the room was nicely decorated with a lot of attention to details. A little on the small side though:



And with a nice inner courtyard:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_022.jpg

Tram station just outside with the distinctive blue trams, but only a short walk to the center, so no need to use it:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_023.jpg

Alright then, let's see what Zagreb has to offer. The most interesting area for a tourist of course is the old town, and there especially the main city square, the Trg J. Jelačića, with its nice and well preserved buildings:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_019.jpg

Not far from away from it, the “Cathedral of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary”:



And there she is, Mary, standing on a high pillar in front of the Cathedral:



The old town is built on two hills, and so you have occasionally climb up and down long staircases:



Or you can even take the funicular, which takes you up the 30.5 meters:



The St. Marks church on top of one the hills, with the coats of arms of the old kingdom of Croatia and the city of Zagreb on its roof:



Somehow I liked this little balcony window:



The Museum of Broken Relationships? Seriously?

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_029.jpg

From the top of the hills you have of course nice views over the city, like this one towards the Cathedral:



And into some of the inner courtyards of all the old buildings:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_032.jpg

The big marketplace was also interesting:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_034.jpg

Had a few pints here in the Tolkien's House the night before, nice little pub all decorated with Lord of the Rings stuff:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_036.jpg

I really enjoyed my time in this city, but all too soon it was time to head back to the bus station to catch the bus to the airport.

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RE: Trade Air, The Brasilia In Croatia, And Air Serbia

Sat Apr 11, 2015 7:05 pm

Flight 2: ZAG-OSI


16.03.2015
Trade Air C3 812 (operated by Budapest Air Service)
Zagreb - Osijek
Distance: 216 km / 117 nm
Embraer E120 (HA-FAI)
Seat 7F
scheduled 16:30 – 17:20
actual 16:22 – 17:02
flight-time 16:27 – 17:00 (33 minutes)

After around half an hour in the bus I arrived at the terminal of Zagreb Airport:



Let's go inside and check the monitor, all looks good for Osijek:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_040.jpg

Now let's try to get a boarding pass for my flight. Online check-in? Negative. Self-Service check-in at the kiosk? Negative. Check-in counter for Trade Air? Negative. Hmm well, so I decided to try my luck at one of the Croatia Airlines desks. The lady there first checked my printed out confirmation, a lot of typing in the computer, then she talked to her colleague next to her. Finally she told me that she has to check something in the office first. And off she went with my papers. Obviously check-in for this flight isn't so easy. A few minutes later she was back with a smile, explained that now she had a list (?) and could proceed to check me in. “Window or aisle seat, sir?”, “Window seat, please”. And a little later I finally had the desired piece of paper in my hand, with the ticket number written on it manually:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_043.jpg

I wanted to go the visitors terrace here, but it was closed on this day. No big deal, since you have views on the apron from the café upstairs as well. But as expected not too much variety to see here. A lot of Croatia Airlines planes (one in Star Alliance colors):

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_039.jpg

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_042.jpg

Lufthansa was here as well with a 737-500:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_041.jpg

Time to proceed through security then and towards my gate. It wasn't busy here at all, and when boarding time came closer an agent simply called out 'Osijek' and only me and another guy got up. Into the bus, lots of space here with only two passengers. A long ride to the other end of the apron and then the object of desire came into view, the Embraer 120 'Brasilia':

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_044.jpg

It was HA-FAI, quite an old lady, built in 1989 already and flying for DAT in Belgium, then for French Regional and finally for Budapest Air Service. One of three planes of this type in the fleet:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_045.jpg

Once on board the FA told me that I could sit down anywhere I want, there wouldn't be anymore passengers. There was already one lady in the plane, so altogether we would have three pax on this flight, a lot of space for everybody. And with two FAs and two pilots up front actually more crew than pax on board. So I settled down on 7F to have a good view on the engine. Just next to us was the one proper Trade Air plane, a Fokker 100 with a beautiful livery:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_046.jpg

Comfortable thick leather seats here:



With adequate legroom:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_050.jpg

And there were safety instructions as well, no inflight magazine though:



A short welcome then by the crew, estimated flight time would be around 35 minutes, a quick manual safety briefing and we were ready to go. Starting the engines:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_049.jpg

On the way to the runway, Air Dolomiti has just arrived:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_051.jpg

No need to taxi all the way down to the end of the runway, a 2900 m take-off-run from intersection bravo should be more than enough today:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_052.jpg

Indeed, airborne:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_054.jpg

And climbing out, it was quite loud during take-off, but then the noise level wasn't too bad. Again quite hazy on this day:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_055.jpg

The almost empty cabin during cruise:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_056.jpg

One of the FAs came around then asking everybody if they would want a drink, the choice was water, tea or coffee. They really had a busy time serving the whole cabin today, but they employed a very efficient system of teamwork, one FA was asking the passengers, the other then pouring the drink. And this was the result of their combined effort, my personal cup of water:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_057.jpg

Not much to see outside with the poor visibility besides the distinctive looking engine and wing:



http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_059.jpg

Later the FA came around once more and asked me if I would please fill out a little survey for marketing research for Osijek airport. Yeah, sure, no problem (I only wondered how much use it is for them when they only get around 10 answers per week or so):

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_060.jpg

During descent over the flat and rural landscape of Eastern Croatia:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_061.jpg

After half an hour in the air we touched down quite hard on runway 11:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_063.jpg

Yes, a Follow-Me-Car is of course absolutely necessary here on these big airports with the thousands of taxiways and parking positions:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_064.jpg

The busy ramp in front of the main international terminal (hmm, maybe I should borrow the irony out button from Markus' keyboard   ) :

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_065.jpg

On the way out of plane I asked for a quick cockpit visit, which was granted without any problem:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_066.jpg

One last view of the cute plane on the ramp in the evening light:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_067.jpg

Into the building, this is the main hall (and the only one):

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_068.jpg

And the landside entrance:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_069.jpg

Oh dear, what happened to this SunAdria Fokker, sad to see a plane in such a shape:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_070.jpg

Anyway let's find a way to get into the city. Not so easy from here, my two fellow passengers both had a private pickup, so it was me then all alone in the terminal. No buses here, no taxis either. I must have looked a little lost because an employee of the airport came to me and asked me if they should call a taxi or if I would like to ride with them into the city for 30 kunas (around 4€). Well, if possible I would go with them. A little later he came back and asked me to follow him into his van. And to my surprise then all the crewmembers of my flight entered the van as well. So I got a ride in the crew shuttle, how cool is that? I had a nice chat with one of the flight attendants on the way and she told me that usually this flight has very low loads this time of year. I guess this route must be heavily subsidized by the government. After a stop at the crew's hotel a little outside of the city the driver let me out in front of the train station of Osijek:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_071.jpg

 
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RE: Trade Air, The Brasilia In Croatia, And Air Serbia

Sat Apr 11, 2015 7:10 pm

Osijek, an international bus ride and Belgrade



The city of Osijek, capital of Slavonia and with around 120.000 people the biggest city and the economical and cultural center in the area. Certainly not on the agenda of most tourists, so let's see what it has to offer. But first I checked in into my hotel, the Guesthouse Maksimilian right in the old town:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_075.jpg

And this was a great choice, staff was exceptionally friendly and helpful, they really made me feel welcome there. And the room was big and with a comfortable bed:



Pljescavica with cheese and potatoes for dinner tonight, yummy:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_074.jpg

The main place of the old town, certainly a nice place to sit outside on a pleasant summer night, but today it was still way too cold to do so:



Instead I had a couple of Osječko pints (brewed in the oldest brewery in Croatia) at one of the pubs there before heading back to my room.

Next day, after a hearty breakfast with a freshly prepared spicy omelet I had another walk through the city, just some impressions here:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_076.jpg



There are still a lot of houses with scars from the war in the 1990's here:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_079.jpg

Also an interesting looking building, it houses the oldest cinema in the city:



I think the blue arches over the windows look really nice on this church:



And finally I arrived at the modern looking new bus station of Osijek:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_082.jpg

I had bought my bus ticket already the evening before, so into the waiting bus and perfectly on time we set of towards Serbia. It is only around 200 km to Belgrade but with a lot of stops on the way and the waiting time at the border it took over 3,5 hours to reach the destination. The first stop in Serbia, at the bus station in Šid, not the most exciting place it seems:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_083.jpg

Further down the road, rural and flat here as well:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_084.jpg

First impression of Belgrade isn't really great, after you leave the bus station first thing you see is a big bombed out building and the area there feels quite seedy. But once you get more into the center it gets definitely nicer. The main pedestrian street, the Knez Mihaila:



My place for the night was in a side street from it, the Hotel Majestic:



And as you would expect from a hotel with this name, the room showed quite some old-style luxury:



The view from the room wasn't that luxurious though:



Only a short walk away there is a big park area with the Kalemegdan inside, the Belgrade castle:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_087.jpg

It houses a military museum nowadays, and it shows on the pathways leading towards it:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_088.jpg

Not my thing though today, instead I rather took advantage of the sunshine and spent more time in the park:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_089.jpg



The confluence of the river Sava with the Danube:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_090.jpg

I spent the rest of the afternoon and the next morning exploring the city center. A lot of buildings there certainly are showing some signs of urban decay:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_094.jpg

This is the Orthodox Cathedral of Belgrade:



Looks interesting inside:



A massive building housing part of the university:



There is one small area in the city that looks a little like an old town, with cobblestone streets and a lot of pubs and restaurants, catering more for tourists though:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_098.jpg

Specially for the visit of CaptainRed they painted all the trams accordingly   :

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_100.jpg

This building houses the National Assembly of Serbia:



A statue in front of it, a naked man is embracing a jumping stallion, hmm, I leave the interpretation to you:



One of the many places in the city center, this is the Trg Nikole Pašića:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_103.jpg
And the hotel Moscow, probably one of the better places to stay here:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_105.jpg

Flight 3: BEG-STR


18.03.2015
Air Serbia JU 344
Belgrade - Stuttgart
Distance: 949 km / 512 nm
Airbus A319 (YU-APB)
Seat 16A
scheduled 18:05 – 19:50
actual 18:01 – 19:45
flight-time 18:09 – 19:37 (1 hour 28 minutes)

I wasn't feeling very well this day (already felt the onset of an epic flu), so I decided to invest my last Serbian dinars for a taxi ride to the airport and go there a bit earlier than necessary. Arriving at the terminal building of Nikola Tesla airport:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_107.jpg

There were a lot ravens in the trees around the building, and these birds made much more noise than their metal counterparts:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_109.jpg

Штутгарт today from gate C1:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_108.jpg

To a checkin counter next for the obligatory boarding pass:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_110.jpg

Airside next, I had a small sandwich and a last Serbian beer there at a bar and then I tried to do some plane watching, and not surprisingly there were quite a few Air Serbia airbusses:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_111.jpg

I really like the colors on their tail:



This one was interesting, a Fokker 100 from German company Avanti Air, I think it was operating a flight to Sarajevo:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_112.jpg

Separate security checks here at each gate, and as boarding time came nearer I went through. No problem at all, and no need to play the stupid liquids-in-a-bag game, nice. My ride was already parked here:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_114.jpg

YU-APB would have the honors today. Built in 2004 and with already a long history. It started its career with Independence Air from the US, then it was with Aigle Azur from France before it headed over to Mexico to fly for Volaris. Then finally last year it became part of the Air Serbia fleet.

On board I got greeted by a friendly flight attendant and then took my seat in row 16. The seats were a little bit too blue for my liking here:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_116.jpg

But they were comfortable and the seat pitch was also adequate. It helped of course to have an empty middle seat next to me, but besides the flight had a healthy load. My view outside, it was already getting dark:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_115.jpg

Now let's see what the seat pocket has to offer. There was the Elevate magazine:



And a few safety instructions of course:



Push back right on time after a nice welcome message from the Captain:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_119.jpg

There was a family with three small kids in the row ahead of me, so I already worried that it might be a noisy flight. But no, there was almost nothing be heard from them, the kids were really well behaved. Not so much the two senior gentlemen in the row behind me though. They were both talking and laughing very loudly for the whole flight, getting up and down, changing seats and so on.

Anyway take-off tonight from runway 12 and over the lights of Belgrade:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_120.jpg

A little bit too late to watch the sunset, but still nice colors outside:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_121.jpg

Once on cruise the crew showed action and they came around and first distributed a snack package for everyone:



Inside the bag there was a ham sandwich, a really delicious cranberry cookie and a small bottle of water:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_123.jpg

Not a bad snack for a flight like this. There was a drink run as well later, got myself a coke this time. Service was well done by the crew in a friendly and relaxed manner, no reason to complain here. Descent started soon thereafter, and after a flight time of almost 1,5 hours we touched down very smoothly on runway 07. And a little later we arrived at the gate next to an Air Berlin Boeing:

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_124.jpg

Bye to the crew and into the terminal, fortunenately no bus ride necessary, but passport control took quite a long time tonight. Well, eventually I made my way landside and got greeted by my wife who was there to happily pick me up.


Conclusion



Three interesting and fun flights on this trip. Germanwings good as usual, the plane went tech but it was handled really well and professionally. Highlight on this trip of course was the Trade Air, or rather Budapest Air Service flight to Osijek on the Embraer 120. Great experience with the low load and the personal service at the small Osijek airport. And finally Air Serbia, perfectly on time and also good and friendly service on board.

As for the destinations I really had a good time in Zagreb, definitely a city worth a visit with its old town, its lively atmosphere and a lot of nice restaurants and cozy pubs. Osijek, certainly a bit off the beaten path, but that made it all the more interesting. And Belgrade, well, mixed feelings here, quite dirty, noisy and rundown at some corners, but it also has its charms and nice places. What I really liked on this trip was the warmth, friendliness and hospitality of basically all the people I met. All this made this short trip very enjoyable, something to do again hopefully soon.

Now thank you very much for reading my humble report and I really hope you enjoyed it  

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RE: Trade Air, The Brasilia In Croatia, And Air Serbia

Sat Apr 11, 2015 7:46 pm

Hello CR,

Very nice and good to see some exotic material in the report. Cute plane, that Brasilia thing and certainly not an everyday catch. Air Serbia is also somewhere under my radar but until now I didn’t have any chance for a solid booking (yet).

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My dad took me to the airport

I also have a taxi dad like that, handy isn’t it?

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they found another plane

Lol, this sounds funny. Like they searched and searched the whole airport and in a far hidden corner they did find one  

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And a little later I finally had the desired piece of paper in my hand, with the ticket number written on it manually

What a strange procedure. Even stranger that there was really no place to check in!?

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The almost empty cabin during cruise

Although a small plane, it does look roomy?

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the room showed quite some old-style luxur

Oh my, that’s nearly from the middle ages...

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I really like the colors on their tail

Me too   

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There was the Elevate magazine

Nice title photo. And interesting to read?

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RE: Trade Air, The Brasilia In Croatia, And Air Serbia

Sat Apr 11, 2015 8:08 pm

Very nice destinations and airlines, exactly my likings. I once did something similar, flying to Timisoara and then taking the train to Belgrade, which took some 4 hours or so for less than 200 km....

Never heard of Trade air, very special experience for sure on such a nice little aircraft with the little load.

Air Serbia is really a nice airline. For connecting guests in BEG they make sure the snack is different, by giving "red" snack bags for flighs from BEG and "blue" snack bags for flights to BEG with different contents.
 
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RE: Trade Air, The Brasilia In Croatia, And Air Serbia

Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:03 pm

What a exciting and different trip report, very enjoyable.. thanks!
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RE: Trade Air, The Brasilia In Croatia, And Air Serbia

Sun Apr 12, 2015 2:34 am

Great TR. Interesting airlines you took. Does Trade Air fly anywhere else in the summer? Would you recommend to see Croatia (as a whole )? Anyways thank you for such a great trip Report  
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RE: Trade Air, The Brasilia In Croatia, And Air Serbia

Sun Apr 12, 2015 4:59 pm

2 cabin crew on an E120 {ROTFL} it looked spacious enough with the low load!

Looks like a nice little trip to some more unusual places in Europe. I liked the pictures.

Thanks  
A306 A313 A319 A320 A321 A333 A346 A359 ATR42 ATR72 B734 B737 B738 B744 B772 B789 C152 MD80 RJ85 S340
 
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RE: Trade Air, The Brasilia In Croatia, And Air Serbia

Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:46 am

Hi C Red,

Reports from the region are hard to come by so thanks for a pleasant read.

Just wondering if you realised that you captured some of the construction works of the Zagreb's new terminal.

http://www.mcroth.de/tr/b115/tr1501_017.jpg

Here are some more if you are interested.

http://www.jutarnji.hr/ekskluzivne-z...radilista-na-plesu/1276781/?foto=1


Should be a nice building once complete in about a year's time.

http://www.mppi.hr/UserDocsImages/ZAG-NPT%20MZLZ%2023-2_15.pdf
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RE: Trade Air, The Brasilia In Croatia, And Air Serbia

Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:06 pm

Hi,

Interesting report. Last summer I flew OSI-ZAG-RJK-SPU-DBV on the little Embraer and it was a very nice experience (almost 5 hours in Brasilia)!

Hotel Majestic in Belgrade is a actually listed as a Serbian national heritage. The building is a synthesis of architecture, visual and applied arts, designed in 1936.

Cheers,
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RE: Trade Air, The Brasilia In Croatia, And Air Serbia

Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:35 pm

Lovely report my friend!
I was just a week later in Belgrade again, but on a short visit there and to Budapest.
I admire your ability to find those amazingly small airlines.
I keep on trying here, but so far everything is rather expensive or unimpressive...
Cheers
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RE: Trade Air, The Brasilia In Croatia, And Air Serbia

Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:47 pm

Hi CaptainRed,

very interesting report with many good pictures. Nice choice of destinations! Congratulations on getting on such a rare airline and rare type. I flew on the E120 just once, really enjoyed it.

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
Brotzeit anyone? Not for me today, I just had a fresh bretzel back in the terminal:

Prices seem to be alright.

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
A lot of Croatia Airlines planes (one in Star Alliance colors):

Nice, flew SPU-ZAG on that one last year.

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):

One last view of the cute plane on the ramp in the evening light:

It's indeed a very nice plane.

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
YU-APB would have the honors today. Built in 2004 and with already a long history. It started its career with Independence Air from the US, then it was with Aigle Azur from France before it headed over to Mexico to fly for Volaris. Then finally last year it became part of the Air Serbia fleet.

Quite experienced bird!


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RE: Trade Air, The Brasilia In Croatia, And Air Serbia

Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:05 pm

Quoting sultanils (Reply 3):
Very nice and good to see some exotic material in the report. Cute plane, that Brasilia thing and certainly not an everyday catch.

Hi Nils, thank you very much.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 3):

I also have a taxi dad like that, handy isn’t it?

Very handy, indeed   Especially on a Sunday morning, when it's really difficult to get anywhere with public transport in a reasonable time.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 3):
What a strange procedure. Even stranger that there was really no place to check in!?

Well, apparently the Croatian Airlines desk was the right one for my flight, it just wasn't signposted that way. Still it felt a bit strange.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 3):

Although a small plane, it does look roomy?

Yeah, space was definitely ok inside. Low load helped of course, don't know how it would have been with a full load.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 3):

Nice title photo. And interesting to read?

Well, somehow, the normal useless knowledge you gain from reading these magazines   . There was an article about a little town in Serbia with a huge population of owls in the town's trees.

Quoting reifel (Reply 4):
Very nice destinations and airlines, exactly my likings. I once did something similar, flying to Timisoara and then taking the train to Belgrade, which took some 4 hours or so for less than 200 km....

Hi reifel, thank you, now that sounds like an interesting trip as well. However I think overall in the Balkans the buses are usually a better choice to get around than the trains. Could have gone by train as well to Belgrade, but that would have taken me even longer.

Quoting reifel (Reply 4):
Air Serbia is really a nice airline. For connecting guests in BEG they make sure the snack is different, by giving "red" snack bags for flighs from BEG and "blue" snack bags for flights to BEG with different contents.

Agree with you on Air Serbia. And interesting to know about their different colored snack bags, actually a simple but good idea.

Quoting luv2fly (Reply 5):
What a exciting and different trip report, very enjoyable.. thanks!

Hi liv2fly, thanks a lot.

Quoting lesfalls (Reply 6):
Great TR. Interesting airlines you took. Does Trade Air fly anywhere else in the summer?

Hey lesfalls, thank you. Yes, they have few charter flights in the summer with their F100 and they have a few more routes to the coastal cities in Croatia as well in the summer.

Quoting lesfalls (Reply 6):
Would you recommend to see Croatia (as a whole )?

Definitely! Especially the coastal area is really beautiful, can be a bit touristy though. And Zagreb is also worth a visit. And people in the country are usually very friendly.

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 7):
2 cabin crew on an E120 {ROTFL} it looked spacious enough with the low load!

Looks like a nice little trip to some more unusual places in Europe. I liked the pictures.

Hey aerdingus, thanks a lot for stopping by. The 2 cabin crew were absolutely necessary on that flight, actually should have been 3, one for each passenger   ...

Quoting mig21umd (Reply 8):

Reports from the region are hard to come by so thanks for a pleasant read.
Just wondering if you realised that you captured some of the construction works of the Zagreb's new terminal.

Hello mig21und, thanks for your reply. And no, wasn't aware about the construction of a new terminal there, but interesting to know. And for sure a good idea to built a new one, you really felt the age in the old one.

Quoting ALexeu (Reply 9):
Interesting report. Last summer I flew OSI-ZAG-RJK-SPU-DBV on the little Embraer and it was a very nice experience (almost 5 hours in Brasilia)!

Hi Alexeu, thanks a lot. Now that route sounds like a lot of fun as well. So was the load higher on your flight?

Quoting ALexeu (Reply 9):
Hotel Majestic in Belgrade is a actually listed as a Serbian national heritage. The building is a synthesis of architecture, visual and applied arts, designed in 1936.

Very interesting to know, had no idea that I did sleep in such a special place. But for sure a nice hotel.

Quoting eielef (Reply 10):
Lovely report my friend!
I was just a week later in Belgrade again, but on a short visit there and to Budapest.
I admire your ability to find those amazingly small airlines.
I keep on trying here, but so far everything is rather expensive or unimpressive...

Hey eielef, thank you. And well, sometimes you are just lucky to find such a flight and it fits in your travel plans. But true, usually the flights on these small airlines are quite expensive, you have to look for flight that are heavily subsidized
to get good fares.

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RE: Trade Air, The Brasilia In Croatia, And Air Serbia

Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:06 pm

Great trip report!

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
Let's check the status of my flight on the board, no problem so far with Zagreb from gate 124:

ANTALYA
ATLANTA
ANTALYA

Almost an anagram!

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
I really enjoyed my time in this city, but all too soon it was time to head back to the bus station to catch the bus to the airport.

Zagreb looks beautiful! One of the first cities I want to visit in Eastern Europe.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 2):
Inside the bag there was a ham sandwich, a really delicious cranberry cookie and a small bottle of water:

Looks very generous for a short flight! I wonder if it's the Etihad influence.
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RE: Trade Air, The Brasilia In Croatia, And Air Serbia

Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:02 am

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 12):
Hi Alexeu, thanks a lot. Now that route sounds like a lot of fun as well. So was the load higher on your flight?

It was on the first 2 sectors, and got half empty between RJK and SPU / DBV so I moved to the exit seat with plenty of legroom...coffee is only served between Osijek and Zagreb, while they serve water on all sectors.
 
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RE: Trade Air, The Brasilia In Croatia, And Air Serbia

Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:26 pm

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 11):
very interesting report with many good pictures. Nice choice of destinations! Congratulations on getting on such a rare airline and rare type. I flew on the E120 just once, really enjoyed it.

Hello PH, almost misssed your reply. Thank you very much for it, glad you liked my report. Nice that you enjoyed the E120 as well.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 11):
Prices seem to be alright.

Prices are ok for sure. If I hadn't eaten something before I definitely would have tried something from the menu.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 11):
It's indeed a very nice plane.

Yes, it's cute, isn't it   ...

Quoting hoons90 (Reply 13):
Great trip report!

Hi hoons90, thanks a lot.

Quoting hoons90 (Reply 13):
ANTALYA
ATLANTA
ANTALYA

Almost an anagram!

Indeed nice, didn't even notice it like that. Antalya is a quite popular holiday destination from Germany, there are usually a lot of flights to it.

Quoting hoons90 (Reply 13):
Zagreb looks beautiful! One of the first cities I want to visit in Eastern Europe.

Yes, go for it, certainly worth a visit.

Quoting ALexeu (Reply 14):
It was on the first 2 sectors, and got half empty between RJK and SPU / DBV so I moved to the exit seat with plenty of legroom...coffee is only served between Osijek and Zagreb, while they serve water on all sectors.

Good to read that at least on some sectors they had a higher load.

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RE: Trade Air, The Brasilia In Croatia, And Air Serbia

Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:57 pm

Hello Captain Red,

Well this is an interesting report for sure! Trade Air and Oseji are definately something I had never heard of, so thanks for sharing your experience with us. Some nice pictures of Zagreb and Belgrade as well!

Robert
 
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RE: Trade Air, The Brasilia In Croatia, And Air Serbia

Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:11 am

Hi CaptainRed!

Nice trip report! I'll be heading to some of the places mentioned in you TR next month so it was nice to get a preview.

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
They really had a busy time serving the whole cabin today, but they employed a very efficient system of teamwork, one FA was asking the passengers, the other then pouring the drink. And this was the result of their combined effort, my personal cup of water:

LOL this really made me laugh   

Overall looks like a pleasant trip. Never flown on any of those airlines before too so it was nice to have an insight.

Thanks for posting!


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RE: Trade Air, The Brasilia In Croatia, And Air Serbia

Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:35 am

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 16):
Well this is an interesting report for sure! Trade Air and Oseji are definately something I had never heard of, so thanks for sharing your experience with us. Some nice pictures of Zagreb and Belgrade as well!

Hello Robert, thanks a lot for your reply. Had never heard of Trade Air either before the trip, but that made it all the more interesting.

Quoting pokfur (Reply 17):
Nice trip report! I'll be heading to some of the places mentioned in you TR next month so it was nice to get a preview.

Hi Pokfur, thank you. And hope you have a nice trip as well then!

Quoting pokfur (Reply 17):
Overall looks like a pleasant trip. Never flown on any of those airlines before too so it was nice to have an insight.

It was indeed a fun trip. Glad that I could give you some insight, germanwings and Air Serbia are certainly good airlines, and Trade Air something more adventorous   ...

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RE: Trade Air, The Brasilia In Croatia, And Air Serbia

Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:08 am

Great report  

Congrats on getting Trade Air. Nice to see JU report too. Lovely pics from Beograd. I love it and have been many times. Its one of those cities that you need to get relaxed in as first impressions can indeed be mixed. The hotels in alot of the areas are very retro. They not not changed since the days of Yugotours and package holidays. The Slavija JAT lux is one I always used to stay in.


Thanks for the report.

Regards

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RE: Trade Air, The Brasilia In Croatia, And Air Serbia

Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:33 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 19):
Great report Congrats on getting Trade Air. Nice to see JU report too.

Hi Philip, thanks a lot, glad you liked my report.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 19):
Lovely pics from Beograd. I love it and have been many times. Its one of those cities that you need to get relaxed in as first impressions can indeed be mixed.

Yeah, that was my impression as well from that city. But all in all I enjoyed my stay there as well.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 19):
The hotels in alot of the areas are very retro. They not not changed since the days of Yugotours and package holidays.

Indeed, retro is a good word to describe the hotel. The room was quite old-style, but comfortable, and at least the bathroom was really modern. I would certainly stay there again.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 19):
Thanks for the report.

You are very welcome   .

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RE: Trade Air, The Brasilia In Croatia, And Air Serbia

Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:41 pm

Thanks for posting! I was looking at the Em120 in Croatia as well, as they were operating on some of the costal routes. Never got round to booking though   Looks like you had a good time though! Nice photos from Belgrade as well, a city i'd like to go back to. Is alcohol free on Air Serbia?
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RE: Trade Air, The Brasilia In Croatia, And Air Serbia

Fri May 01, 2015 7:59 pm

Hi, Captain,

for sure a good idea to spent a couple of days in the air and around these cities.
A good impression, nice pictures.

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
mm, maybe I should borrow the irony out button from Markus' keyboard

Well done!.

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RE: Trade Air, The Brasilia In Croatia, And Air Serbia

Sat May 02, 2015 10:04 am

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 21):
Thanks for posting! I was looking at the Em120 in Croatia as well, as they were operating on some of the costal routes. Never got round to booking though

Hi Gabriel, thank you. And yes, they have an interesting milk run in the summer, I think it is ZAG-RJK-SPU-DBV, all done on the E120, certainly a fun trip.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 21):
Is alcohol free on Air Serbia?

I think so, but honestly I am not quite sure. I wasn't feeling well that day so I only had a coke and didn't even ask or look for anything else.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 22):
for sure a good idea to spent a couple of days in the air and around these cities.
A good impression, nice pictures.

Hi Markus, thanks a lot, it was a fun trip indeed.

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RE: Trade Air, The Brasilia In Croatia, And Air Serbia

Sat May 02, 2015 11:07 am

Hi CaptainRed,

Very nice and unique report, thanks for sharing!

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
Always on the lookout for small airlines flying with rare plane types I stumbled upon this little company offering domestic flights within Croatia, usually operated with the Embraer E120 “Brasilia” turboprop

I had no idea this company existed or that there is still an E120 operating scheduled flights in Europe, so it was especially nice to read your report. Always fun to discover something unique like that.

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
Crossing the mountains on the way, great views of course over the snowy peaks and valleys:

Nice shots of the Alps! Beautiful.

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
And a little later I finally had the desired piece of paper in my hand, with the ticket number written on it manually:

That is a really bizarre check-in process. I guess there are not many people travelling on this flight, in general.

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
They really had a busy time serving the whole cabin today, but they employed a very efficient system of teamwork, one FA was asking the passengers, the other then pouring the drink. And this was the result of their combined effort, my personal cup of water:

Hahahaha...what service!

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
I really like the colors on their tail:

I really like the Air Serbia colours and logo...looks sharp!

Best,
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RE: Trade Air, The Brasilia In Croatia, And Air Serbia

Sun May 03, 2015 9:57 am

Quoting BZNPilot (Reply 24):
Very nice and unique report, thanks for sharing!

Hi BZNPilot, thanks a lot.

Quoting BZNPilot (Reply 24):
I had no idea this company existed or that there is still an E120 operating scheduled flights in Europe, so it was especially nice to read your report. Always fun to discover something unique like that.

Not sure if Hungarian Air Service are the only operator of the E120 in Europe, but definitely something special.

Quoting BZNPilot (Reply 24):
Nice shots of the Alps! Beautiful.

Thanks again, always fun to fly across the mountains. Even if you have done it many times, it still is fascinating every time.

Quoting BZNPilot (Reply 24):
That is a really bizarre check-in process. I guess there are not many people travelling on this flight, in general.

Apparently the load on this flight is usually low, but the check-in was still strange. I mean even with only around 10 pax a week they should know how to do it.

Quoting BZNPilot (Reply 24):
I really like the Air Serbia colours and logo...looks sharp!

So do I, looks really nice.

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RE: Trade Air, The Brasilia In Croatia, And Air Serbia

Mon May 04, 2015 9:19 am

Morning Captain,

Sorry for the late reply on this one. What an exotic trip you did, great planning and congrats on logging a pretty unknown airline & airport. Nice combo too with the bus ride to Belgrade, must have been quite an experience crossing the border to Serbia that way.

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
Crossing the mountains on the way, great views of course over the snowy peaks and valleys:

Just what I like!

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
Just next to us was the one proper Trade Air plane, a Fokker 100 with a beautiful livery:

Stylish

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
They really had a busy time serving the whole cabin today, but they employed a very efficient system of teamwork, one FA was asking the passengers, the other then pouring the drink. And this was the result of their combined effort, my personal cup of water:

Quite an impressive result after all that work!

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
The busy ramp in front of the main international terminal (hmm, maybe I should borrow the irony out button from Markus' keyboard ) :

Or maybe it’s a mysterious button only to be found in Southern Germany  
Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
I must have looked a little lost because an employee of the airport came to me and asked me if they should call a taxi or if I would like to ride with them into the city for 30 kunas (around 4€). Well, if possible I would go with them. A little later he came back and asked me to follow him into his van. And to my surprise then all the crewmembers of my flight entered the van as well. So I got a ride in the crew shuttle, how cool is that?

Nice that the staff were so helpful, they obviously don’t get many tourists in that part of the world

Quoting CaptainRed (Thread starter):
Inside the bag there was a ham sandwich, a really delicious cranberry cookie and a small bottle of water:

Not bad for the short flight.

Thanks for this interesting report,

Happy flying
Infodesk   
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RE: Trade Air, The Brasilia In Croatia, And Air Serbia

Tue May 05, 2015 6:00 pm

Quoting infodesk (Reply 26):
What an exotic trip you did, great planning and congrats on logging a pretty unknown airline & airport.

Hi Hannah, thanks a lot.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 26):
Nice combo too with the bus ride to Belgrade, must have been quite an experience crossing the border to Serbia that way.

That bus ride was indeed an interesting experience. Never crossed an EU outer border by bus, so it was something new to me, but actually it was quite easy. Passports got collected by an officer, than a few minutes later returned with the stamp in it.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 26):
Or maybe it’s a mysterious button only to be found in Southern Germany

  

Quoting infodesk (Reply 26):
Nice that the staff were so helpful, they obviously don’t get many tourists in that part of the world

Yes, staff was indeed really helpful, even though it was quite difficult with the language. But in general all the people I met were very extremely friendly, especially there in Osijek.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 26):
Thanks for this interesting report,

You are very welcome  

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