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Qatar Airways A350 In Economy - Solid Product

Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:00 pm

In my Ode To Qatar Seven Eighty Seven, I slammed the cramped seating To be fair to Qatar, this review celebrates their new A350, which I think is an excellent product in Economy. Well, I only flew in Economy so I can't comment about Business.

This is the picture of the cockpit (from the aerobridge) of the Airbus A350, after landing at Changi.
http://i61.tinypic.com/11alk6t.jpg

Here is my flight review video of the A350 experience.
https://youtu.be/MeTxDyDYHyQ

Qatar Airways A350 Flight on the new Airbus A350 from Doha to Singapore. It was a 0700hrs departure from Doha and landed in Singapore at 1950 hrs local time.

We were travelling from London to Singapore, with a 45 minute layover in Doha. We had a 45 minute layover in Doha. The transfer was rather rushed, but still do-able. QR 002 landed in Doha on time, but we did not have an aero-bridge. We had to take a bus to the terminal, similar to earlier experience.

At Doha, we had to re-do security screening, which fortunately was very fast and hassle free. There were many transfer passengers, however, I noticed that they cleared us very quickly as compared to say LHR. Some kind of huge yellow ultra big toy in the middle of the hall? Didn't have time to take a look. This picture was taken while walking!
http://i60.tinypic.com/1zow1mc.jpg

We boarded the aircraft rather late, i.e. almost all the other passengers had boarded. From the transfer security area, it was a rather long walk to the gate for the Airbus A350 flight to Singapore. I recall it was at Gate B8. See the time stamp on the Gate - 0647hrs! Yes, we got there just in the nick of time.
http://i60.tinypic.com/28k1o5x.jpg

The plane was new. This flight was rather empty so I had an empty seat beside me. Seat space was decent and the IFE system was modern with a nifty touchscreen.I found this video clip on the touchscreen IFE. Exciting!
http://i59.tinypic.com/ml2tyt.jpg

Onboard the aircraft now. Here is the safety card, Airbus A350-900. I found the safety card to be unexpectedly worn and used, I wonder why. I had thought the A350 was a very new aircraft?
http://i60.tinypic.com/2el9t3r.jpg

I was seated near the front of the aircraft. It was a day flight and I think most pax were not sleepy, unlike us.
http://i61.tinypic.com/2ce6mbc.jpg

This is how the IFE system looked like. Very modern, and even better than the system on the Boeing 787.
http://i61.tinypic.com/2gy3yhe.jpg

Service on board was good. Overall, Qatar offers a top notch product. Pity, however, the seat space on the Boeing 787 is terrible - that is for another video review.

For the food, we had two meals. First meal of breakfast was served shortly after takeoff. We had three choices of the hot meal. I had the Asian inspired Thai-style with fried rice. As this was breakfast, it felt too early for alcohol, but I think I had some.
http://i62.tinypic.com/29zrhc9.jpg

After breakfast, I had a decent sleep, about 4 hours. Woke up about 2 hours before landing. The next meal served before landing was a light one. Sandwich plus cake and drinks. Still, it was a definitely a good snack. Taste was good, presentation was good.
http://i61.tinypic.com/4gitjt.jpg

Landing in SIN was on time.

The FAs were very pleasant and attentive throughout. I appreciate the extra attention they showered on my two kids.

In this video, I also remember the recent earthquake tragedy in Mt Kinabalu, Sabah, Malaysia. Several young primary school children and teachers lost their lives, due to falling boulders. Rest in peace.
http://i59.tinypic.com/2uhxxmp.jpg

In this trip to London, we flew twice on the B787, once on the A350, once on the A340. My favourite was clearly the A350. The A340 was not bad. The B787 was terrible, because of the crampness of the seat.
 
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RE: Qatar Airways A350 In Economy - Solid Product

Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:07 am

Quoting guitarsingapore (Thread starter):
Pity, however, the seat space on the Boeing 787 is terrible
Quoting guitarsingapore (Thread starter):
Seat space was decent

So, 0.8 inches is your idea of the difference between "terrible" and "decent"?
Right.
Right.
Methinks thou art an Airbus fanboy.
 
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RE: Qatar Airways A350 In Economy - Solid Product

Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:58 am

Great trip report, thanks for sharing.
I echo your view on the 787, very cramped and hard seats. The 777s are much better though.

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 1):
So, 0.8 inches is your idea of the difference between "terrible" and "decent"?
Right.
Right.
Methinks thou art an Airbus fanboy.

I doubt it's an A vs. B thing. The 787 really is very cramped, I could barely stand a 1-hour flight on the ones QR have. I had just come off a long-haul flight on the 77W, which really is very comfortable (QR uses a 3-3-3 config.) Have no idea how people tolerate the 787 on a flight to Perth.
 
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RE: Qatar Airways A350 In Economy - Solid Product

Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:25 am

Thanks for the report.

Having just experienced the A350 as well from FRA, and having flown with QR's 787 last year, I echo the sentiment - the A350 was far superior in my experience... and I have no connection to or interest in Airbus either.

There was so much [over]use of the phrase "game changer" when the 787 was launched but in my opinion, that title better fits the A350.

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I doubt it's an A vs. B thing. The 787 really is very cramped, I could barely stand a 1-hour flight on the ones QR have. I had just come off a long-haul flight on the 77W, which really is very comfortable (QR uses a 3-3-3 config.) Have no idea how people tolerate the 787 on a flight to Perth.



QR don't use the 787 to PER on QR900/901 - it's usually the 773ER.
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RE: Qatar Airways A350 In Economy - Solid Product

Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:24 am

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 1):
So, 0.8 inches is your idea of the difference between "terrible" and "decent"?
Right.
Right.
Methinks thou art an Airbus fanboy.

I'm just giving my 2 cents based on my trip experience. I back my review with detailed photos and videos.

Feel free to disagree with me, I'm ok with that.

Have you flown on the Qatar 787 in Economy?

[Edited 2015-06-16 04:24:56]
 
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RE: Qatar Airways A350 In Economy - Solid Product

Sat Jun 20, 2015 6:21 pm

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 1):

So, 0.8 inches is your idea of the difference between "terrible" and "decent"?
Right.
Right.
Methinks thou art an Airbus fanboy.

Methinks you are a Boeing 'fanboy' by the sounds of the bitterness coming out of you.

Nice TR! Would love to try the 350 soon.

I wonder how different the QR 787 feels to the DY one, which I've flown a few times and is also 3-3-3 and I found pretty comfortable actually, about as much as a 77W minus the noise.
 
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RE: Qatar Airways A350 In Economy - Solid Product

Sat Jun 20, 2015 7:27 pm

Airbus is already investigating an economy configuration of 10-across for the A350.


http://www.runwaygirlnetwork.com/201...ast-a350-a-slice-more-comfortable/
 
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RE: Qatar Airways A350 In Economy - Solid Product

Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:50 am

Hi guitarsingapore,
Thanks for sharing your onboard experience with QR.

I know that travelling with children can be stressful, so it's good to learn that the crew looked after your children so well, making your own flight more pleasant.

Regards, EN
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RE: Qatar Airways A350 In Economy - Solid Product

Sun Jun 21, 2015 7:13 am

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 1):

Right.
Right.
Methinks thou art an Airbus fanboy.

Oh, the bitterness and denial is palpable.

There is a distinct difference and a 9 abreast 787 with a whopping big IFE box at your feet gives the impression of being much, much more cramped than QR's A350 with its much smaller IFE box and larger personal space.

It really is noticeably different and you do the OP an injustice with your post.

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RE: Qatar Airways A350 In Economy - Solid Product

Sun Jun 21, 2015 9:57 am

Quoting baldwin471 (Reply 5):
I wonder how different the QR 787 feels to the DY one, which I've flown a few times and is also 3-3-3 and I found pretty comfortable actually, about as much as a 77W minus the noise.
Quoting ElanusNotatus (Reply 7):

Hi guitarsingapore,
Thanks for sharing your onboard experience with QR.

I know that travelling with children can be stressful, so it's good to learn that the crew looked after your children so well, making your own flight more pleasant.

Regards, EN

To be fair to QR, there is nothing bad with their in-flight service.

All was good and they also ensured that my kids were ok, which was a nice touch.
 
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RE: Qatar Airways A350 In Economy - Solid Product

Sun Jun 21, 2015 6:51 pm

Nice read and pictures, thanks for sharing.

I just flew QR's A359 on QR67 today, what a great flight!

Admittedly I was in JCL, but Y looked pretty spacious, certainly better that 788 layouts I have seen in a 3-3-3 config.

Cheers

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RE: Qatar Airways A350 In Economy - Solid Product

Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:38 am

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 10):

Yeah, I'm sure Qatar Airways in J is very good. Thanks for chiming in.
 
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RE: Qatar Airways A350 In Economy - Solid Product

Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:15 am

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 1):
So, 0.8 inches is your idea of the difference between "terrible" and "decent"?
Right.
Right.
Methinks thou art an Airbus fanboy.

Yikes, someone swalled a few too many bitter pills today...   

Have you flown on the 787 in economy?

Quoting directorguy (Reply 2):
I echo your view on the 787, very cramped and hard seats. The 777s are much better though.
Quoting palmjet (Reply 3):
Having just experienced the A350 as well from FRA, and having flown with QR's 787 last year, I echo the sentiment - the A350 was far superior in my experience... and I have no connection to or interest in Airbus either.
Quoting guitarsingapore (Reply 4):
I'm just giving my 2 cents based on my trip experience. I back my review with detailed photos and videos.

.. because these people have and the 787 in 3-3-3 is well known for being cramped. You can also add me to the list and echo the sentiments above.

Quoting baldwin471 (Reply 5):
Methinks you are a Boeing 'fanboy' by the sounds of the bitterness coming out of you.
Quoting BlueShamu330s (Reply 8):
Oh, the bitterness and denial is palpable.

Nailed it.   
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RE: Qatar Airways A350 In Economy - Solid Product

Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:33 pm

The product looks good! Thank you for a good report  

Forgive me for my ignorance, but do they fly the A350 on other routes then FRA and the above mentioned route?
 
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RE: Qatar Airways A350 In Economy - Solid Product

Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:29 pm

I won't fly a 787 in Y, it's simply too cramped. And normally I prefer Boeing — but I have some standards. Agreed the comment about how the OP must be a fanboy is off the mark. No-one who's flown on a 787 in Y thinks this is a nice ride. I agree from my experience of the A350 in Y, it's a great product.
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RE: Qatar Airways A350 In Economy - Solid Product

Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:42 pm

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 10):
Admittedly I was in JCL, but Y looked pretty spacious, certainly better that 788 layouts I have seen in a 3-3-3 config.

But the Y seats are just 16.9 ins wide ! Maybe that accounts for the "pretty spacious" cabin.

This info is buried within the B787 launch statement from ITB Berlin in 2012.


http://www.qatarairways.com/global/e...pressrelease_pressrelease_20120307
 
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RE: Qatar Airways A350 In Economy - Solid Product

Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:18 pm

Thanks for the report.

I took QR944 last week and the meal service was reversed, and I actually didn't appreciate the sandwich calzone thing, which I thought was dry and bready, and not a satisfying first meal. Also the call bells were not functioning and crew cabin walkthroughs were not regular enough.

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 1):
So, 0.8 inches is your idea of the difference between "terrible" and "decent"?
Right.
Right.
Methinks thou art an Airbus fanboy.

Must just join in the chorus of saying how juvenile and self-defeating your comment is. Having flown both a/c comprehensively, I can say the A350 is far more comfortable in Y class, with a much roomier set-up than the 787. J for both is very similar, but one feels there is more innovation at work on the A350.

Thanks for the report,

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RE: Qatar Airways A350 In Economy - Solid Product

Fri Jul 17, 2015 5:59 am

I just flew the previous week (and am about to do the same in 18 hours) Qatar 777-300 & 787-8 to DOH and BLR, back to back flights and doing it again today.

Coming from the 777, where the seat was wider, and the legroom 1" more, as someone who is 6'5", you damn right that 1" is noticeable and makes a difference to me. Maybe to someone who is 5'5" it doesn't, but to me I absolutely notice it. And the seat width is certainly noticeable. Especially when you're confined for 16 hours on the 777 and 4 hours on the 787 (and going from 777 immediately to the 787 during a transfer in DOH). The IFE box takes away about 3" of width under the seat, and again, it is noticeable (had this on the 787, not on 777).

I agree with the original posters view on Qatar's 787. Haven't flown the A350, so I can't comment on that. Perhaps other airlines are offering wider seats or increased pitch on their 787s.

Maybe on the flight back I'll take pictures just to prove my perspective.
 
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RE: Qatar Airways A350 In Economy - Solid Product

Sat Jul 18, 2015 2:41 am

Quoting jetxdammit (Reply 17):

I just flew the previous week (and am about to do the same in 18 hours) Qatar 777-300 & 787-8 to DOH and BLR, back to back flights and doing it again today.

Coming from the 777, where the seat was wider, and the legroom 1" more, as someone who is 6'5", you damn right that 1" is noticeable and makes a difference to me. Maybe to someone who is 5'5" it doesn't, but to me I absolutely notice it. And the seat width is certainly noticeable. Especially when you're confined for 16 hours on the 777 and 4 hours on the 787 (and going from 777 immediately to the 787 during a transfer in DOH). The IFE box takes away about 3" of width under the seat, and again, it is noticeable (had this on the 787, not on 777).

I agree with the original posters view on Qatar's 787. Haven't flown the A350, so I can't comment on that. Perhaps other airlines are offering wider seats or increased pitch on their 787s.

Maybe on the flight back I'll take pictures just to prove my perspective.

Hi,

Thank you for your comment and sharing your experiences. As I had indicated in my other videos, I am only 5feet 8" and I found the Qatar 787 seats to be very cramped. I can only imagine how much worst it would be for you at 6 feet 5"

Please do take pictures on your flight back. As they say, a picture speaks a thousand words and probably a video speaks a thousand pictures.

Looking forward to your review!

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