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1969- LGA-BOS-LGA -Northeast Airlines And AA

Sun Jun 21, 2015 7:03 pm

This is the fourth installment in what is and will be a series of short trip reports from long ago.
The data is from my log trip logs and is what I recorded at the time and dim recollections.
The previous trip reports can be found below:

PAN Am Boeing 707 Miami New YORK-JFK 1972 (by WINGSOFMAN72 Mar 1 2015 in Trip Reports)
Part 1-1971-MIA-IAH-MSY-TPA-MLB-MIA DL And NA (by WINGSOFMAN72 Apr 18 2015 in Trip Reports)
Part 2-1971-MIA-IAH-MSY-TPA-MLB-MIA DL And NA (by WINGSOFMAN72 Apr 18 2015 in Trip Reports)
5-4-68 JFK-IAD-JFK PAN Am 707/BRANIFF 727 (by WINGSOFMAN72 May 30 2015 in Trip Reports)

Background: This day trip was planned to take in quick trip BOSTON Airport, but mostly to get a ride on a
Northeast Airlines (NE) DC9-30 which was a new aircraft for me at the time.

I am not sure why I chose this option other than I knew it would be pretty empty, with EA having the shuttle (also DC9-30s at the time) and AA with hourly scheduled service. In the future while working for EA I have flown literally hundreds of flights on DC9s and it is the plane that appears most frequently in my logbook to this day, although the 727-200 is probably more, but they are sorted by full type (like 727-225), so it’s hard to say which is more.

The return was on a AA 727-223, which also was also empty, and seems pretty dull now, I should have taken the next flight that was a BAC-111, however I had flown on those several times on AA and MO to/from BUF from New York.

By the way-the reason I used KBOS/KLGA is that for some reason when I use them in text the pictures do not come out. I have this problem every time. Can anyone give advice on what this is and how to prevent it.

March 31, 1969

The routing for the day was:
KLGA-KBOS NE DC-9-31
KBOS-KLGA AA 727-221

New York (KLGA) to-BOSTON (KBOS)
Airline: NORTHEAST (NE)
Flight: 506
Aircraft type: DC-9-31
Aircraft Registration: N975NE (S/N: 47075) (Lost at Logan on DL723 7/31/73 on approach to runway 4R)
Seating Configuration: 12F/78Y Load: 0/25
Scheduled Departure: 09:50 Actual Departure: 09:52
Departure Gate: 29
Takeoff Time: 10:01 Takeoff Runway: 31
Cruise Altitude: 17,000
Landing Time: 10:34 Landing Runway: 27
Flight Time: 33min
Scheduled Arrival:10:33 Actual Arrival: 10:37
Arrival Gate: C7
Captain: Ryland
Notes: Departure was from the lower level gate 29 with no Jetway at that time at KLGA.
The flight was uneventful and very fast and according to my notes very rough on final
below the cloud deck. BOSTON looked to be under a major construction project , but I only
stayed an hour and went right back to KLGA.

First a few shots from JFK the weekend before this trip:

EAL DC-8-63PF N8759 loading to MIA or SJU.

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Air Canada Vangard takeoff 13R

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Now at KLGA:

Southern DC-9 departing in the packed route to Columbus, Ga. and Dothan, Alabama.
 photo 11-SO DC9-10_zpsf4jwvs6j.jpg


My plane N975NE arriving:
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N975NE at the gate
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Fairchild FH227 Arrival

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Gloomy Gate 29
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Looking back at Gloomy 29
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Taxi into postion and hold runway 31 (follow the smoky BAC)

http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah147/wingsofman721/LGA-BOS-LGA%203-31-69/20_zpsmktyv5ne.jpg

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Liftoff after VERY short run:

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Climbout over 4-22 and long lost STOL runways 14-32 and 1-19!!
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Downwind on approach to 27 at KBOS

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Touchdown 27
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Taxi back to terminal on 4R
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UA 737-222 with AA in the background
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AA 727-23 N1963 with Allegheny Convair 580s and DC-9 Vistajet! The 580 was on it's way to PIT via PVD/MDT and BFD I think, the AA 707 is to SFO also
 photo 35-AA20N196370720TO20SFO_zpsbh0hbnhr.jpg

AA 727-223 N6819 ready for AA119 to KLGA
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Eastern DC-9-31 (Air Shuttle) with the Electra backup Aircraft

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Overview if Logan in 1969
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BOSTON (KBOS) to New York (KLGA)
Airline: AMERICAN
Flight: 119
Aircraft type: 727-223
Aircraft Registration: N6819(S/N: 19494)
Seating Configuration: 16/111 Load: 50Total
This is a link to a website that shows this configuration:
http://frequentlyflying.boardingarea...airlines-boeing-727-200-from-1977/
Scheduled Departure: 12:30 Actual Departure: 12:30
Departure Gate: D4
Takeoff Time: 12:46 Takeoff Runway: 33L
Cruise Altitude: 16,000
Landing Time: 13:24 Landing Runway: 31
Flight time:38 min
Scheduled Arrival:13:20 Actual Arrival : 13:28
Arrival Gate:6

Boarding:
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AA BAC-111 Flight 610 arriving from KLGA for the 130p departure back.
 photo 44-AA 610 FROM LGA_zps6ad6l8ov.jpg

Push back - EAL 720 on the other side of the Concourse
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Crossing 4L
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Seaboard DC8F
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Now Crossing 4R
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Holding for 33L AA BAC lands/ Executive Twotter holds
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Turning on 33L
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Liftoff and veiw of Logan in 1969

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2 PAN AM 707s No idea what they are doing there, probably charters.

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Downtown BOSTON
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En-route and on Descent to KLGA
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Turning toward KLGA with JFK in the distance-and I ran out of film..so that is all the pictures

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All in all a good trip, however I should have stayed longer , and had more film.
As usual, please excuse the quality of photos scanned from Slides, back then I had no idea I would ever share
them with the world via the INTERNET!

Bonus shot from the WAYBACK MACHINE
PAA DC-4 at IDL 1957

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wingsofman72
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RE: 1969- LGA-BOS-LGA -Northeast Airlines And AA

Sun Jun 21, 2015 7:07 pm

Here is a link to the PHOTBUCKET page with some shots I could not get to load.


http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/wi...GA-BOS-LGA%203-31-69?sort=9&page=1
 
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Sun Jun 21, 2015 7:23 pm

In one word: fantastic! No need to apologize for the quality; for someone who wasn't even born then, it's a treat to view such pictures. Please keep them coming!

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Sun Jun 21, 2015 9:34 pm

Wow - just awesome. So glad you had the presence of mind to document your travels back then in such detail.

As a kid in the 1980s and 1990s, I remember having to be very careful how many photos I took on the plane before I got a lecture from my parents about "wasting film." Then I'd rush to the photomat to pick them up and discover half of them didn't come out. We're really spoiled by digital cameras today!

Looking forward to seeing more of your series - fantastic stuff.
 
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Sun Jun 21, 2015 10:55 pm

Thanks for the TR. Awesome to see the BOS Terminal C hammerheads under construction back in '69.

Two questions, first the LGA gate where you departed, was the waiting area a lower level waiting area, or did you have to take steps down to the rampfrom an upper level waiting area? Second, was the "Expressway visual" arrival procedure into LGA exist during this time?
 
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Sun Jun 21, 2015 11:10 pm

Your reports have taken their places as my favourites... wow.
 
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Sun Jun 21, 2015 11:44 pm

Quoting phatfarmlines (Reply 4):
Two questions, first the LGA gate where you departed, was the waiting area a lower level waiting area, or did you have to take steps down to the rampfrom an upper level waiting area? Second, was the "Expressway visual" arrival procedure into LGA exist during this time?


Yes, as I remember it was lower level Gate 29, don't know about the Expressway Visual, I don't think so, but not sure, we came up the river and then made a left into LGA on most flights back then.


Click on this link for another picture of the construction (it will not attach to this or the report for some reason).

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Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:41 am

Love the vintage Logan photos.

Regarding the 2 Pan Am planes at Logan. Keep in mind that before deregulation, Logan was the 2nd busiest transatlantic gateway after JFK. Pan Am had regular flights to a handful of cities at the time.
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Mon Jun 22, 2015 2:09 am

Quoting Zrs70 (Reply 7):

Regarding the 2 Pan Am planes at Logan. Keep in mind that before deregulation, Logan was the 2nd busiest transatlantic gateway after JFK. Pan Am had regular flights to a handful of cities at the time.

As to the PA planes, I considered that, but the only flights at that time were AM flights to SJU and BDA and the LHR flight that did not get in until almost 1700, but there could have been delays or anything else.

At that time in 1969 I actually was working for PA as a part-time sales rep at several colleges in NY and have a collection of timetables that I checked. They were very big into the charter trade at the time, so that probably explains it.
 
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Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:32 pm

Great TR  ! The time when the U.S was the winner in aviation.
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Mon Jun 22, 2015 5:05 pm

What an amazing report! The pictures transform us to a time when aviation was a luxury and flying was akin to having a private jet today. Thanks so much for sharing.
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Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:05 am

Hi wingsofman72,

Thank you so much for uploading your latest "retro report". It really is fascinationg to step back and compare the different aircraft flying back then and seeing carriers that are no longer with us.

Regards, EN

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Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:21 pm

Love the shots with the Northeast Airlines FH-227s in them!!
From what I can tell, I think the 227 that is arrving looks to be N374NE....
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Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:11 pm

That's amazing! Great report and great pictures!
 
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Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:40 pm

Quoting wingsofman72 (Thread starter):
All in all a good trip, however I should have stayed longer , and had more film.
As usual, please excuse the quality of photos scanned from Slides, back then I had no idea I would ever share
them with the world via the INTERNET!

Pretty sure you do not have to apologize for sharing photos that are closing in on 50 years old! A different era in photography for sure but also a different era in aviation too, although one could argue that both LGA and BOS are completely recognizable from these photos. We would be lucky with one or two photos like this, but we were treated to a whole roll of film!

Keep 'em coming - for those of us born after this time, it is all fascinating stuff!
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Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:13 pm

These photos are great! I am curious though, did you ever take cabin shots back in the 1960s or 70s? Interiors now are so drab and boring, and back then they were pretty intense. I like the 80s and 90s best because I think those are a happy medium between the two extremes.
 
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Sun Jul 26, 2015 9:08 pm

Quoting afcjets (Reply 15):
These photos are great! I am curious though, did you ever take cabin shots back in the 1960s or 70s?

Unfortunately at the time it never occurred to me, I may have some from my time at EAL when they first had the multi-colored Y seats (red-yellow-orange and I think green), and then to the "Borman Brown" seats with color stripes.
On my NA flights they were all brightly colored to match the tropical theme, yellow and lime green.

I do have some from flights someplace and will post them as I come across them. Thanks for checking out my report!
 
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Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:57 am

Quoting wingsofman72 (Reply 16):
wingsofman72

Great, I am most interested in Eastern as I flew them a lot as a kid. I remember vividly those multi colored Y seats. About 20 years ago, I also saw an Eastern promo from 1972 for the 727 when they introduced them they called them Retro I believe (which I find ironic) and they said they were blue, yellow and magenta, which is such a 70s word and color lol. Or maybe it was saying they would be retrofitted I just remember them using the word retro. IIRC the carpet was blue with burgundy red paisleys or the other way around. And the L1011 had some different colors, I didn't get to fly it until late 1981 and it had already been redone. I think the interiors were muted a bit first with the delivery of the A300 and they eventually made all the interiors more uniform and then again in 1986 they went even more brown.

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Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:57 am

Just great !

Thanks so much for posting
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Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:59 pm

Thank you for the amazing trip report. As others have said, please keep posting them!

One minor correction: AA did not have nonstop authority between BOS and SFO before deregulation. All of AA's flights between the two cities had to go via ORD or DTW. Likewise, UA did not have BOS-LAX nonstop authority; UA added this route after deregulation.
 
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Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:47 pm

Quoting WA707atMSP (Reply 19):


One minor correction: AA did not have nonstop authority between BOS and SFO before deregulation. All of AA's flights between the two cities had to go via ORD or DTW. Likewise, UA did not have BOS-LAX nonstop authority; UA added this route after deregulation.

I stand corrected, not sure where I got that from (it was in my notes), but it is AA129 to LAX for sure. That was the only 707 n BOS for AA at that time.

I found this in the link below...that just happens to be the exact month timetable!

http://www.departedflights.com/AA033069p4.html

Thanks for the comments.
 
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Sun Aug 16, 2015 5:58 pm

Simply amazing. What a great travel back in time in the good ol days!
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Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:35 am

I'm really loving these old trip reports! Thanks so much for taking the time to post these. You're making it feel like airliners.net existed in 1969.

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