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Business Class On AA's 763 Retrofit! MAN-ORD

Sun Jul 12, 2015 3:29 am

Hi everyone!

Welcome to the second report of my spotting trip to LHR and MAN. This report covers the return journey back to the USA, highlighted by the new Business Class product on American’s 767-300ER. I went ahead and decided to skip ahead to this report, rather than writing one about the Flybe Q400s from London-Stansted to Manchester via the Isle of Man. Though those flights were interesting with a lot of details to share, I decided that more would be interested to read about American’s retrofitted Business Class product on the 767-300ER. So, I hope you enjoy the report!

A little bit of background information first. We had originally bought seats in Y for this trip, but I had called American in mid-April, requesting an upgrade. The agent put us on hold for the upgrade, and informed us that we’d know 24 hours in advance. If we were bumped up, American would charge us $350 and 25,000 miles per person. It’s a good thing my dad had accumulated quite a bit of miles by that point! He is also an AAdvantage Gold member, and I think this helped in getting the upgrade.

During the trip itself, I didn’t think much about our potential upgrade. I didn’t want to raise my hopes up unnecessarily, but all that changed during the early morning of July 4th, the day before our flights back home. I logged in to aa.com, and found it to say “seats unassigned”. I found this odd, as I remembered selecting 25H and 25J for Dad and I. I then realized that we had gotten the upgrade, but I didn’t want to fully celebrate until I saw it say “Cabin Class: Business”. Thanks to the Wi-Fi at the Airport Inn, I was left waiting for about five minutes, until the screen loaded and it said the words I had so been hoping for it to say. Elated, I shook my dad awake and told him, and we gave each other high-fives!  

I’ll begin with a couple of pictures from Manchester taken during our stay.

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We stayed at the Airport Inn. It was alright, though nothing like the Renaissance Hotel that we had stayed in before coming up north to Manchester. But hey, they had free breakfast, so I can’t complain there!
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The walk from the hotel to the morning/early afternoon spotting location is wonderful, with a narrow trail winding through woods. It’s a very short walk, taking me about 10 minutes.
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I did about ten seconds of “car spotting” near the hotel, along the beginning of the trail to the spotting location. I’ve never heard of the Honda Jazz in the states!
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The trail contains a little bridge, under which this little river flows.

I’m going to next show some shots taken during our stay. I only have a couple edited so far, and here they are. Two have already been accepted!  D-AIUB MAN 7-4 1200px USM210 by kann123air, on Flickr
Taken from the Runway Visitor Park, which is probably about a 40 minute walk from the hotel. This is only an estimate, as thankfully Dad and I never had to do that walk. Dad’s cousin, who lives in the area, would sometimes give us a lift, and once, a friendly spotter dropped us off back at the hotel.
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I got my fair share of exotic airlines!  

I was treated with some absolutely glorious light during the last evening, as evidenced in the many pictures below. I particularly loved the dark clouds in the background of some of the photos.

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9H-AEH 7-4 1400px USM210 by kann123air, on Flickr
OH-BLP 7-4 1200px USM200 by kann123air, on Flickr
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Now, some taken from the spotting mound, which is a ten minute walk away from the hotel (as mentioned earlier).

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A spotter at this location showed me this book, which I eventually bought at the Runway Visitor Park on the last evening. It’s a must-have for any dedicated spotter, containing every single registration of every passenger aircraft containing more than 19 seats in the world.

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For lunch on the last day, Dad and I visited The Honey Bee, a quaint little pub about a 15 minute walk from the Airport Inn. A beautiful place, with great fish and chips!
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Trying out a soda not available in the USA, J2O. I believe this was the Orange and Passion Fruit flavor.
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Dad ordered a lamb dish, on the top. As mentioned before, I had the fish and chips.

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Taken on the walk back. I found it interesting that most signs display in miles here!
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The Airport Inn, as viewed from across the street.
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Alright, time to get to the actual return journey. For more pictures taken at MAN, please check my profile after a little while. Hopefully by then, I’ll have more acceptances from both LHR and MAN.

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Before leaving the hotel room, I tracked the plane that would be carrying us to ORD. Here she is, about to touch down from JFK.
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Taken on our drive to the airport. My dad’s cousin, a local in the area, kindly offered to drop us off.
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Entering the airport now.

American and US Airways have a separate check-in area for Business Class passengers. After walking straight to a check-in desk (avoiding all the lines at the economy check-in), the agent printed out our boarding passes and invited us to check out the British Airways executive lounge after security. I didn’t know J passengers on AA could enter this lounge, so this was a pleasant surprise!

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The entrance to the lounge. One must go up a flight of stairs to reach this, or take an elevator from the secure area of T3. BA agents, situated at a desk opposite to this one (behind this photo) checked our boarding passes and invited us in.


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The lounge is located right above the common area past security in T3, and you can see this through the glass.
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We had a great view of N379AA, the aircraft that would carry us across the pond this morning. As shown earlier, she had arrived earlier that morning from JFK as AA210.

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A list of all scheduled departures of BA and AA flights from MAN for that morning.

The lounge had a good selection of breakfast items. Nothing hot, but tasty nonetheless.

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Dad getting some coffee.
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I had two of the biggest pastries displayed, washed down with some cranberry juice.
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After finishing, I went back to the window to get my picture with ship 379.
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You can see my morning spotting location in the distance, right by the beginning of 23L.
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Looking to the left now. Another AA 763, N384AN, had arrived earlier that morning from ORD and departed for JFK shortly after we left.
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A view of the lounge, taken while facing away from the window.
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I noticed something interesting on approach for 23R…
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…moments later, touchdown!
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Yup, it’s time to go downstairs.

Shortly before leaving the lounge, I went to the restroom. Showers were located next to it.

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Taken after exiting the restroom/shower area.
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We then left the lounge to walk around T3.
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Oooh… McLaren!
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Taken while walking around T3.
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As we approached our departure gate, 49, we got a better view of our beautiful 767-300ER.
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Thomas Cook’s new livery looks good!
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Photobomb alert…
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MAN is full of low-costs!
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Note the sticker near the tail of this FR 738. I was hoping to see one of their new 73Gs, but that didn’t happen.
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He’s a good plane spotter too, but he gets burned out after an hour or so!  
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Wow, an A310!
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The new livery is great, and it looks especially good on widebodies.
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Our captain, probably doing some paperwork.
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Looking down the left again. Highlights include the AA seven-six and KLM’s retro 738. I caught that one a few days earlier in LHR.

”Ladies and gentlemen, we are now ready to start the boarding process for American Airlines flight fifty-five to Chicago.”

Flight #1
Route: MAN-ORD
Flight: American Airlines 55
Aircraft: Boeing 767-323/ER
Registration: N379AA
Departure time: 09:45am BST
Arrival time: 11:22am CST
Flying time: 7 hours 37 minutes

MAN-ORD AA55 flight path by kann123air, on Flickr
As usual, a special thanks to www.flightaware.com for having these maps.

I wanted to be the first to board, so Dad and I quickly got up and stood in front of the desk before anyone else got there. After about ten minutes, I looked back, and the line had gotten incredibly long. Shortly afterwards, us passengers began to become impatient… When were we going to board? It had now been about fifteen minutes since the announcement.

An agent came to the front of the line, and addressed those of us who could hear him.

”There’s a slight technical issue. Nothing to worry about.”

After about five more minutes of waiting, boarding finally started. We never got any clarification on what exactly was wrong, but hey, at least we were boarding.

N379AA MAN-ORD J cabin by kann123air, on Flickr
What a beautiful looking cabin! My seat was is the first one that has a table in between the aisle and the seat, on the right side.
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When I learned that we got the upgrade, I selected seats 3A and 4A for Dad and I. I chose to take 4A, since the seat itself was right by the window. Business Class seats in AA’s retrofitted 763 alternate between having a little table to the left of the seat and to the right. Wanting to take pictures out the window, I obviously preferred having my table to the right.

While still at the gate, a male F/A had to enter my seat area to let some passengers by. While he was next to me, I told him that I was collecting AA’s heritage amenity kits, and I asked if I could take any spare ones, if there were any. He said that he expected many seats to be empty, and continued to say that he’d be more than happy to give me some. A few minutes later, right before pushback, he returned to my seat with a fresh America West kit! Through his many pre-departure duties, he remembered my request, and for that I thanked him profusely.

I had an AirCal amenity kit at my seat, and my dad had an Allegheny one. With the HP one, my collection had grown to four, as I already had a TWA one that my dad had brought home from one of his previous trips.

Around the same time, the female F/A, Wendy, walked around the cabin and handed out U.S. customs cards to the passengers. My dad informed her that the cards were obsolete for U.S. citizens, since kiosks are available in the customs area at ORD and other major U.S. airports, such as DFW. She responded, “They’re not obsolete until someone informs us.” Okay then…

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Very comfortable blankets and pillows were placed at each seat prior to boarding.
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My view from 4A.
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I opened the compartment in front of me, hoping to see the Samsung Galaxy tablets that are standard on AA’s 763s in Business. It was empty!
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Although I had pre-ordered my meal on aa.com about 24 hours earlier, menus were still handed out. This was probably because there was a light meal offered prior to landing, and pre-ordering wasn’t available for that, for some reason. The menu was very well done, and each page will be shown later in the report, shortly after takeoff.
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Taxiing for takeoff for the flight back to Doha.
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A female F/A came around the cabin and offered water, orange juice, or champagne. I chose water, and she quickly went back to the galley to get me a glass, as she didn’t have any left on her tray. I found it interesting that I easily could’ve grabbed a champagne, despite being underage! My empty glass is visible here.
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It’s time to go! 
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My Spanish skills leave a lot to be desired, but I think I managed to decipher that.
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Much better…
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Our jetbridge then pulled away. Around this time, the safety video played.
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SQ327 taxiing for departure to MUC and SIN. I find some of SQ’s routings interesting, such as this one, SIN-DME-IAH, and SIN-BCN-GRU.
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EY16 taxiing for departure to AUH. I flew on A6-ETG, another EY 77W, on AUH-ORD three years earlier. Very comfortable, despite the much-complained-about 10-abreast seating.
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Meanwhile, SQ327 thundered down 23R.


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I pity those poor people onboard that 752 to IAD. I love the 757, but for a TATL journey, I would choose almost any other aircraft first.
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I flew on this reg three days earlier, on IOM-MAN. The F/A onboard that flight was perplexed when I asked to move from seat 2A to 8A, but she understood after I said that I wanted to have a better view of the engines and landing gear.
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It was then EY16’s turn to depart.
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She would push back a few minutes later for JFK.
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A good looking winglet, but I wish AA had decided to put some color on it as they had on the old livery.
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There… My share of birdwatching for the trip is over. My dad is an ornithologist, and got his Ph.D. by studying the Great Pied Hornbill in India, so he birdwatches wherever we go. He studies goshawks while I photograph gashawks!  
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The front half of our cabin was almost completely empty.
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At the 23R threshold now.
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Interesting-looking training model.

”American fifty-five heavy, cleared for takeoff, runway two-three-right.”
”Cleared for takeoff, runway two-three-right, American fifty-five heavy.”

Our two GE CF6 engines then roared to life!

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Goodbye, Manchester!
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If you look closely, you can actually faintly see the Airport Inn. Follow the road that goes under the two runways, and look behind the airport buildings on the left along 23L. You’ll see a building surrounded by trees. That’s it!
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23L is still going!
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Gaining altitude now.
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Already leaving England.
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Goodbye, England!
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Crossing the Irish Sea now.
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The captain made a brief announcement around that time, describing our flight path. I recorded it, and it’s available below.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5EgvOh8Mr0

Shortly afterwards, the F/As came through the aisle with a food cart, except food wasn’t on it. I wasn’t really sure what they were doing, until my dad turned around and told me that they were handing the Galaxy tablets out. Ah, so they do it after takeoff! I was wondering why we didn’t have them.

Wendy came by and plugged mine in, and asked me if I wanted Bose noise-canceling headphones. I, of course, said yes.

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I really wasn’t in the mood to watch a movie, but I scrolled through to see if anything seemed interesting. I had already seen American Sniper, and though it was a great movie, I didn’t really want to see it again. On flights that offer AVOD, most of the time, I just watch the moving map. The Galaxy Tabs don’t have this feature, much to my disappointment.
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I watched a small video about the retrofit Business Class seat while enjoying some hot nuts and ginger ale.

Now, the lunch service started. I will now show the entire menu that was handed out.

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I chose the creamy herb dressing on my salad, and I had pre-ordered the seared chicken breast. Dad got the Asian-style salmon.
AA55 MAN-ORD menu4 by kann123air, on Flickr
Of course, I got the traditional AA ice cream sundae. More on that later.
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Didn’t mean much to me, but some of you might find this page interesting.  
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RE: Business Class On AA's 763 Retrofit! MAN-ORD

Sun Jul 12, 2015 3:34 am

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The starter. As mentioned earlier, I chose to have the creamy herb dressing on my salad. The nice male F/A came around the cabin with a basket of rolls, and I chose the cheese roll. There were about five options, impressive!
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After I finished, Wendy came by and took my plate.

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My main course then arrived, and as mentioned earlier, I had pre-ordered the seared chicken breast. It was absolutely delicious, with incredible flavor and perfect temperature.
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Dad said his salmon tasted great, too.
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My appetite was momentarily taken away by this disgusting piece of hair. I quickly threw it to the side and tried to forget about it.
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After I finished eating, I flipped through the July edition of American Way. I’m so glad that AA has dedicated two entire pages for the fleet.

I then walked up to the front galley and quickly used the restroom. Upon exiting, I saw this mouth-watering display of desserts.

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”Do you mind if I take a picture of this?”
Second Male F/A: “Anyone who wears an American Airlines t-shirt can take a picture of this!  

Wendy came by to my seat and asked if I’d like hot fudge, butterscotch, or berry toppings on my ice cream.

Me: “Yes, please.”
Wendy, perplexed: “You want all of those?”
At that moment, I realized that wanting all of the above was a request she had never had. I quickly took back what I said, and requested butterscotch. She wrote it down, and proceeded to 5A.

I quickly realized that I had nothing to lose by asking for all three, haha. Therefore, when she walked by my seat again, I asked if I could have all of them, with a broad smile. She said, “sure”, and walked away.

Moments later, she came to my seat with my ice cream. “That’s quite a sundae”, she said.
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Indeed, it was quite a sundae! 
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After demolishing my incredible sundae, I reclined and took out my laptop. I spent about half an hour editing some shots from MAN.
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The fully-edited version, one of my favorite from the trip.
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This particular picture (on my laptop screen) was taken the day before, from my morning spotting location. Guess what flight that was? That’s right, AA55 to Chicago.  

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After my half an hour of editing, I quickly got tired, and made my seat lie flat. With the incredible pillow and comfortable blanket provided, I was extremely comfortable. To make things better, we encountered some light turbulence, rocking me to sleep.
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You take a picture of me sleeping, and I’ll return the favor!  
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I went for a quick stroll through the entire aircraft. Here’s the Y cabin. Notice the new seat covers, the only refurbishment that economy got as part of the retrofitting.

I returned to the Business cabin and went to the front galley, where I got into a conversation with the nice male F/A who had given me the HP amenity kit earlier. We got into a discussion about the 763 retrofit, and I asked him if the Y cabin got anything. I knew the answer, but I wanted to see if he’d either glorify the measly seat covers, or be honest about how AA pretty much ignored economy. He did the latter, which amused me. “Nope. They got absolutely nothing!” He was also disappointed that the Galaxy Tabs were continued in J, as AVOD had not been included as part of the retrofit.

I also asked him if he preferred the new AA livery or the old one. He responded saying that he preferred the new livery, as “it was definitely time for a change.” I agree with him.

I then went back to my seat, and slept for a little while longer, again in the fully lie-flat position. I really didn’t feel like I was on a plane; comfort level wise, this was just as good as a great bed in a 5-star hotel. I took my glasses off, put my eye shades on, and snoozed away high above the North Atlantic. While dozing off, I thought about Christopher Columbus, and how he took three months to cross the Atlantic. Wow, how far has human technology come in a span of 523 years!

I woke up with about three hours remaining in the flight. I walked around a little, and played around with the features of my seat. It’s really an incredible seat – the controls to move it were on a touch-screen pad on the personal table, located by my right arm. I suppose it would be by the left arm for the people in odd-numbered seats, since, as mentioned earlier, the personal table placement is staggered throughout the cabin.

The touch-screen pad also included an option to turn on a little light that illuminated the area by my feet, and a small compartment to my right that housed my amenity kit upon boarding. Such a light is handy when the entire cabin is dark.

Right below this touch-screen pad was another small control panel, which was housed inside a little cover. To access this, the cover must be opened, similar to how a tray table is taken out of an armrest on any standard first class seat. The control panel contained the volume and channel controls for the audio selections available throughout the aircraft (independent from the Galaxy Tab). Also, I believe it contained the flight attendant call and reading light buttons.

Though the tray table was nice and large, I didn’t particularly like how it came out. To the right of the touch-screen pad was a little button for it. Once pushed, the tray table would swing outwards, potentially damaging anything in your lap at the time. I had my DSLR in my lap when I tried it out, and thankfully, the table narrowly missed my lens! Once out, one must open up the table to use it. Also, putting it back in its spot was rather difficult, as I had to align all three arrows and maneuver it back in, sometimes forcefully. Maybe I wasn’t doing it right, but even then, it should be easier to put back in.

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Somewhere over Northern Michigan
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Our speed and location at the moment. I have no clue how my phone managed to do this, as we didn’t even have a cell signal at the time.
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Leaving Michigan and flying over Lake Michigan

After about an hour or so strolling around, talking to the F/As, and filling in my registration book, the light meal was handed out. After taking a look at the chicken salad that Dad got, I chose the pizza. It tasted wonderful!

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As we were ending our meal, the descent into ORD slowly began. It was pretty cloudy outside, so we couldn’t see much of Lake Michigan until we descended quite a bit. Around this time, the friendly male F/A came to my seat and asked if I knew how to get to H16 for my flight to DFW. I said I did, and I thanked him for checking.

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The coast is coming into view now.
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Downtown is faintly visible through the clouds.
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Chicago had 40 people wounded and eight killed in gunfire that weekend. I know we weren’t flying over the south side, but still… I wouldn’t want to be down there!
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You can faintly make out the Chicago skyline.
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We did a 27L approach with a UA E-jet parallel for one of the 28s.
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Short final now
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Moments before touchdown
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Right after our rubber made contact with the asphalt of 27L.
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Hey look, the Friend Ship A320! I saw it at Concourse M while on the way to England.
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Taxiing to Concourse M now.
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I’ll never get tired of seeing the lineup at M.

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Take a look at that pipsqueak Cessna Caravan, operated by Air Choice One.
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He’s tiny, but still good looking!

I took a short video of the heavies while taxiing by M, located below.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqS1bLO7Qwc

DSC_0182 by kann123air, on Flickr
DSC_0184 by kann123air, on Flickr
Air India’s Star Alliance 77W
DSC_0185 by kann123air, on Flickr
A plethora of tails that very few airports around the world can display.
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Concourse K in the distance
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Hey look, a 787 at L10! This plane would follow us to DFW, and it was there that I figured out it was N802AN, the exact registration that we flew DFW-ORD on the way to England!
DSC_0188 by kann123air, on Flickr
Pulling into M10 now
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We then disembarked, and I thanked the crew for a wonderful flight on a great product. I didn’t even feel like I was on a plane that’s older than me!

We had a relatively tight connection in ORD, so we raced through customs and immigration as fast as possible. It was relatively quick, thankfully.

DSC_0190 by kann123air, on Flickr
Taken after taking the train to T3, crossing the bridge to the terminal.
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Dad led the way.
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AS check-in counters at T3
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NK’s check-in counters. They charge $55 for a carry-on?! What?

We then went through security, which was probably my worst experience at a TSA checkpoint. There was an old lady who obviously hated her job, herding us like cattle. “Keep going, keep going! Don’t stop! Keep going!”, she kept yelling. When it was our turn to put our belongings on a tray, I attempted to separate mine into two trays, simply due to the large amount stuff I was carrying. She rudely screamed, “No! Don’t do that!” and then continued screaming “Keep going!” at the rest of the line. To a sari-clad Indian lady in the queue a few feet in front of me, she yelled this, which infuriated me.

”Hey! This is America! We keep the line going here!”

The sari-clad lady wasn’t even standing idly, she was hurrying as fast as she could. If she had said that to me, I really don’t know how I would’ve reacted. What a racist comment!

After clearing through that horrible security checkpoint, we made sure we had all of our belongings and made our way to Concourse H.

DSC_0195 by kann123air, on Flickr
DSC_0196 by kann123air, on Flickr
The international flags we had seen a week earlier were replaced with US flags for Independence Day.
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Walking to H16
DSC_0198 by kann123air, on Flickr
I took a look at our maddog parked at H16, and walked around a little bit while Dad relaxed.
DSC_0199 by kann123air, on Flickr
I saw “Manchester, UK” on the board and wished that I could just hop on that plane…
DSC_0200 by kann123air, on Flickr
AA loves to advertise the fact that they get a new plane a week. I think they should, considering how much of an upgrade they are from the old fleet for passengers.
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I’m still getting used to seeing ex-US aircraft at AA gates.
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Good looking clAAssic heading to JFK.
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DL maddog passing Concourse H
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The CO retrojet in the distance
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A relic of the past, located around H16.

Shortly afterwards, we boarded our MD-80 to DFW!

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Sun Jul 12, 2015 3:46 am

Flight #2
Route: ORD-DFW
Flight: American Airlines 2335
Aircraft: Boeing/McDonnell-Douglas MD-83
Registration: N599AA
Departure time: 01:44pm CST
Arrival time: 03:26pm CST
Flying time: 1 hour 42 minutes

DSC_0209 by kann123air, on Flickr
Taken from my seat, 12A.
DSC_0211 by kann123air, on Flickr”

Shortly after taking the picture above, I shook awake my half-asleep Dad.

”Dad! Where is that plane going? Huh?” (pointing at the CRJ-700 above)
(bleary-eyed, barely even noticing what aircraft I was pointing at) “Nashville, Tennessee”

I took out my phone, and looked up the tail number. Look where it was going.
IMG_0195 by kann123air, on Flickr

”How did you know?!?”
(Suddenly bolt awake) “I was right?!?”
”Yeah!!”
”Oh. My. Goodness."

We shared a good laugh, and he promptly dozed off again. We then pushed back from H16.

DSC_0212 by kann123air, on Flickr
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I will never get tired of seeing the Queen.
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Looks like she’s G-CIVS.
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Talking of the Queen…
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A typical busy afternoon at ORD
DSC_0220 by kann123air, on Flickr
Taxiing by some heavies at the end of K
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I always enjoy taxiing by M, just because of this view.
DSC_0222 by kann123air, on Flickr
A newer Queen, compared to the ones I saw a few minutes earlier.

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UA, FR, and OS finish up the airlines parked at M.
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I wonder why he’s not at a gate.
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Crossing 22L
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”Dad! A Hanian 787!”
(His eyes remained closed, and his deep breathing didn’t skip a beat.)
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AA heavy in line behind a UA minibus
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I saw a crack in Dad’s eyelid for this one! 
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Soon our turn came for takeoff, and we blasted off 28R.

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AA 738 pulling of 28C.
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Goodbye, ORD!
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Banking hard to the left to head south.

Some shots taken on the flight are below. It was a pretty uneventful flight, except for the fact that Dad woke up halfway thorough and watched me edit!  DSC_0240 by kann123air, on Flickr
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Captain: “Ladies and gentlemen, we don’t expect much turbulence today. The weather looks good all the way to Dallas. Currently, we’re heading straight for St. Louis, and our flight path will take us over Razorback country, and Fort Smith, Arkansas. We expect have an on time arrival into DFW. Once again, thanks for flying with us today.”

The comment about Razorback country and Fort Smith thrilled Dad and I. We’re huge Razorback football and basketball fans, and of course, we live in Fort Smith.

DSC_0246 by kann123air, on Flickr
As mentioned earlier, I spent some time editing.
DSC_0244 by kann123air, on Flickr
I had already had about three ginger ales that day, so I switched to Dr. Pepper for this flight.
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Crossing the Red River now.
DSC_0248 by kann123air, on Flickr
DSC_0248 by kann123air, on Flickr
Good looking wing
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Beginning our descent into DFW now
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Monitoring our airspeed. We touched down about about 145mph, faster than I expected. But then again, it was a full flight.
DSC_0259 by kann123air, on Flickr
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Now on short final.
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Smooth touchdown on 17C
DSC_0262 by kann123air, on Flickr
We had an incredibly long taxi. I would estimate it took us 25 minutes to go to A8 after touchdown.
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The island gates at Terminal E
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Shortly after pushing from E
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Oooh, a non-international L-AA 757! These are pretty rare.
DSC_0270 by kann123air, on Flickr
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N802AN, the same plane we saw back at ORD, at A23. We boarded that exact aircraft, at that gate, for the same destination a week earlier!
DSC_0274 by kann123air, on Flickr
Almost at A8 now
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Turning into A8
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The captain and F/O kindly let me into the flight deck. Good looking cockpit, but old.
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Goodbye, ship 599!
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Taken on the Skylink. The 77W was operating AA50 to LHR. I wish I could be on that plane!  
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Taking a quick trip to Terminal D, one of my most favorite places on Earth.
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6 by kann123air, on Flickr

While on the Skylink on the way back from Terminal D, I checked my email and got some great news. I had gotten my first three acceptances from the trip, even before we came back home!  IMG_0201 by kann123air, on Flickr
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Entering the stinger at Terminal B. Our flight, EV 2671, was set to depart from B33.
8 by kann123air, on Flickr
I walked around some more, while Dad relaxed. That is quite a flight information display board!
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N903EV would operate our flight to FSM.
10 by kann123air, on Flickr
The stinger offers some good views of the rest of Concourse B.

Around this time, the Women’s World Cup final was going on, and I would’ve loved to watch it. Surprisingly, not a single TV in the area was tuned to it. They were all on CNN, focusing on the crisis in Greece and the confederate flag controversy in South Carolina.

DSC_0305 by kann123air, on Flickr
Our flight was delayed, due to some sort of leak. Every fifteen minutes, the estimated departure time would increase by fifteen minutes more. That meant that I couldn’t predict when we’d actually leave, so I couldn’t go for a walk far away from the gate. This frustrated me a little.
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Finally, at around 6:30, we boarded, two hours behind schedule.
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Sun Jul 12, 2015 3:53 am

Flight #3
Route: DFW-FSM
Flight: American Eagle (ExpressJet) 2671
Aircraft: Canadair CRJ-200
Registration: N903EV
Departure time: 06:42pm CST
Arrival time: 07:28pm CST
Flying time: 45 minutes

The cabin welcomed us onboard with an awful smell, similar to a neglected public bathroom. “Makes me wonder what the leak was”, Dad said.

The captain announced that we would be delayed even more, as we had to take in extra fuel due to a thunderstorm over FSM at the time.

IMG_0203 by kann123air, on Flickr
Yep… That looks rough.
DSC_0308 by kann123air, on Flickr
For a second, I thought that was a cigarette in that man’s mouth! That would definitely lead to disastrous consequences for him and potentially everyone on board.
DSC_0307 by kann123air, on Flickr
Taken while still taking in fuel.
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/463/19564722135_316f0efe90_k.jpgDSC_0309 by kann123air, on Flickr
A short while later, as the F/A raced through the safety demonstration, we finally pushed back from B33. Taken while taxiing to the runway.
DSC_0310 by kann123air, on Flickr
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I originally didn’t like the new livery on AA’s A319, but I’ve come to love it.

Our turn for takeoff soon came, and we lifted off 35L after a short roll.

DSC_0313 by kann123air, on Flickr
Goodbye, DFW!
DSC_0314 by kann123air, on Flickr
You can barely make out QF’s A380 parked at Terminal D.

The short flight was rather uneventful. I didn’t do anything other than stare out the window, as I didn’t feel like taking out my laptop for such a short flight.

DSC_0315 by kann123air, on Flickr
We soon reached our cruising altitude of 23,000 feet.
DSC_0316 by kann123air, on Flickr
We began our descent after about 30 minutes in the air.
DSC_0317 by kann123air, on Flickr
Weather conditions rapidly deteriorated as we entered the Fort Smith area. I was really surprised our pilot decided to land, as lightning was abundant all around the airfield.
DSC_0318 by kann123air, on Flickr
Now passing a Walmart distribution center on final for runway seven
DSC_0321 by kann123air, on Flickr
Crossing I-540 now, on very short final.
DSC_0323 by kann123air, on Flickr
Moments before touchdown
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Our wheels made contact with the runway, we pulled off into a taxiway, and so ended our wonderful and memorable trip to England.
DSC_0326 by kann123air, on Flickr
Our small but awesome terminal building here in FSM

I’ll end this report with a couple of pictures of me during the trip.

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Boarding G-ECOM at STN for our flight to the Isle of Man
IMG_0208 by kann123air, on Flickr
IMG_0209 by kann123air, on Flickr
Boarding G-JECG at the Isle of Man for our flight to Manchester. I later got this registration accepted on this site!

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IMG_0035 by kann123air, on Flickr
Taken at the Thistle Hotel Heathrow, prior to our trip up north to MAN. This shot was 100% candid; I had no clue Dad was taking this photo.
IMG_0038 by kann123air, on Flickr

This last photo, perhaps my most favorite, was also taken at Thistle and is also 100% candid.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/506/19293694808_e2eddb2d39_k.jpgIMG_9912 by kann123air, on Flickr

Overall Impressions

Wow, AA’s retrofitted 763 is fantastic! I never felt like I was on an aged aircraft. The seat was, in many ways, better than the J seat on their 787s. I say this because I was not really a fan of the angled seat position, as it was quite difficult to take photos out of the window, no matter what direction you’re facing. I like how the 763 seats are fully forward-facing, therefore making it much easier to look outside the window and take photos.

I said this earlier in the trip report covering our journey to LHR, and I’ll say it again. The New American is indeed arriving. It’s thrilling to see the progress my airline has made ever since filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection only four years ago. What a turnaround!

Thanks for reading, and as always, comments are welcome and appreciated. Oh, and if you’d like to read the report of our journey to England, including AA’s 787 in Business Class and BA’s 77W, the link is below.

www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/trip_reports/read.main/266956/

Amrit

[Edited 2015-07-11 20:59:24]
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RE: Business Class On AA's 763 Retrofit! MAN-ORD

Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:17 am

Thanks for a wonderful trip report!

it looks like you have a great day of plane spotting. I love the shot of Air Transat's A310.

American Airlines look the same, and the new 767 business class is very nice.
The food looks a bit better than a few months ago.

Thanks again!
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Sun Jul 12, 2015 4:04 pm

Quoting Carfield (Reply 4):
Thanks for a wonderful trip report!

Carfield, thanks for the wonderful reply!

Quoting Carfield (Reply 4):
it looks like you have a great day of plane spotting. I love the shot of Air Transat's A310.

Multiple wonderful days of plane spotting.   Thank you!

Quoting Carfield (Reply 4):
American Airlines look the same, and the new 767 business class is very nice.
The food looks a bit better than a few months ago.

It is very nice, and yes, I did notice an increase in quality of the food.

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Sun Jul 12, 2015 5:08 pm

A great TR all over, plenty of plane spotting pics and good review of the AA Boeing 767.

You definitely a bigger plane spotter than I am! mind you, I don't even pay attention to registration details... yikes!

Anyway I am really impressed with AA's progress. Obviously everybody will always try to compare them to SQ, LH or CX etc or the Middle East 3, but I think AA is making an effort to improve and the changes are noticeable.

Changes like the meals and their presentation, it looks better than CX meal presentation I got when I flew to HKG!

The menu and wine list also get a thumbs up. The Lanson champagne is a decent mid range label.

The crew also seemed nice, which is a surprise! especially when you were given 3 desserts!
I guess I read so many US airlines TRs where the crew are disinterested and robotic that I have low expectations. Sometimes I wish those who don't have the passion for flying anymore, they should quit instead of staying around for an extra 20 years, treating customers (who pay their wage) badly and giving the airline a bad reputation.

Finally, I know other airlines who adopted this seating and cabin but they have IFE, instead of handing out samsung galaxy. I guess AA wanted to save $$$ on the capital expenditure as well as the ongoing weight and associated fuel costs because those IFE units are heavy and a couple of tons in weight saved equals millions in fuel cost savings.

Also they don't use these planes for ultra long haul only transatlantic 6-7 hour flights, so I guess they didn't see the need to fit it with the same entertainment as the 777-300ER.

Anyway keep saving your AA miles, one day you can build enough to redeem it on EY A380!
 
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Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:03 am

Nelsony, thanks for the great reply!

Quoting nelsony (Reply 6):
A great TR all over, plenty of plane spotting pics and good review of the AA Boeing 767.

Thanks!

Quoting nelsony (Reply 6):
You definitely a bigger plane spotter than I am! mind you, I don't even pay attention to registration details... yikes!

Haha... I tend to bore my immediate relatives and friends, so I guess I'm pretty hardcore.

Quoting nelsony (Reply 6):
Anyway I am really impressed with AA's progress. Obviously everybody will always try to compare them to SQ, LH or CX etc or the Middle East 3, but I think AA is making an effort to improve and the changes are noticeable.

Agreed.

Quoting nelsony (Reply 6):
The crew also seemed nice, which is a surprise! especially when you were given 3 desserts!

For the most part, they were great. Well, three choices of desserts.

Quoting nelsony (Reply 6):
I guess AA wanted to save $$$ on the capital expenditure as well as the ongoing weight and associated fuel costs because those IFE units are heavy and a couple of tons in weight saved equals millions in fuel cost savings.

That's likely it.

Quoting nelsony (Reply 6):
Anyway keep saving your AA miles, one day you can build enough to redeem it on EY A380!

Absolutely!

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Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:20 am

Hey Amrit!

Wonderful TR as usual! I left this up on my computer screen and my dad read it as well. He said it was fascinating, and he agreed that you remind him a lot of his own AvGeek son.

I am glad that the upgrade cleared. It looks like the catering on AA has improved a bit since I flew them CDG-PHL in January in J. I cannot believe what they've done with the IFE on the new 763s by totally screwing Y and keeping J very basic.

Loved the lineup of tails at T5 at ORD. Makes me miss my days of living in Chicago so much. I agree that it never gets old.

Also, cannot believe the TSA agents' behavior at T3. The ones at Terminal 3 at ORD are notorious for being absolutely crabby and horrible people. If you weren't in a hurry, you should have reported her.

Again, such a great read and thanks for taking the time and effort to pull all of this together, I know it's a labor of love.

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Mon Jul 13, 2015 3:50 am

Hello again Amrit,
I should add that looking at your AA balance, it won't be long before you enough points to redeem an EY A380 flight between Sydney and Abu Dhabi, that's 14-15 hours on the new Etihad A380 for 45,000 points! what a great value.

Quoting kann123air (Reply 7):
For the most part, they were great. Well, three choices of desserts.

Ahh okay, I thought you had all three desserts!

Quoting kann123air (Reply 7):
Haha... I tend to bore my immediate relatives and friends, so I guess I'm pretty hardcore.

Well some people collect stamps, we like airplanes. That's why I joined an enthusiast community! Like minded people never get bored of sharing stories and pictures.
 
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Mon Jul 13, 2015 4:29 am

Wow, what a fantastic report. You write very well!

Definitely looks like you had a great flight on the 767. Food presentation looks like it has improved from earlier this year. My only complaint with the 767 is that due to the lack of IFE, I can't follow the trip progress, which like you, is the only channel I ever watch on the IFE. Did they have the moving map on the overhead monitor?

Once again, great report and pics!
 
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Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:49 am

Quoting irishayes (Reply 8):
Hey Amrit!

Hey Irishayes!

Quoting irishayes (Reply 8):
Wonderful TR as usual! I left this up on my computer screen and my dad read it as well. He said it was fascinating, and he agreed that you remind him a lot of his own AvGeek son.

Thank you for the wonderful reply! About your dad, that is great, haha!

Quoting irishayes (Reply 8):
Loved the lineup of tails at T5 at ORD. Makes me miss my days of living in Chicago so much. I agree that it never gets old.

It is indeed fantastic. It never does.

Quoting irishayes (Reply 8):
Again, such a great read and thanks for taking the time and effort to pull all of this together, I know it's a labor of love.

Thanks for taking the time to read it, and yes, the labor of love is worth it with such fantastic replies.  
Quoting nelsony (Reply 9):
I should add that looking at your AA balance, it won't be long before you enough points to redeem an EY A380 flight between Sydney and Abu Dhabi, that's 14-15 hours on the new Etihad A380 for 45,000 points! what a great value.

That is true; however, I usually just use my dad's miles when I want a trip, haha. Those 30,000 miles have been sitting in my account for over ten years now.

Quoting irishayes (Reply 8):
Also, cannot believe the TSA agents' behavior at T3. The ones at Terminal 3 at ORD are notorious for being absolutely crabby and horrible people. If you weren't in a hurry, you should have reported her.

Shocking indeed. That's what we thought, too.

Quoting AKLDELNonstop (Reply 10):
Definitely looks like you had a great flight on the 767. Food presentation looks like it has improved from earlier this year.

I did, and that's glad to hear. I had never flown TATL on AA J before, so I have nothing to compare to.

Quoting AKLDELNonstop (Reply 10):
My only complaint with the 767 is that due to the lack of IFE, I can't follow the trip progress, which like you, is the only channel I ever watch on the IFE. Did they have the moving map on the overhead monitor?

I agree. And no, they didn't. They did while taxiing in MAN, but after takeoff, a couple of movies were shown.

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Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:22 am

Thanks for taking the time to share your photographs and your report. Hope you enjoyed your visit to our windswept little islands 

My first ever trans-Atlantic flight was MAN-ORD on AA55 in September 2002 which, incidentally, departed from gate 55 at MAN-T3. I noticed that was the gate the JFK flight was using the day you left.

Quoting kann123air (Thread starter):
I did about ten seconds of “car spotting” near the hotel, along the beginning of the trail to the spotting location. I’ve never heard of the Honda Jazz in the states!

It's the Honda Fit. "Fit" has additional connotations in British English which are not ideal for a car 
Quoting kann123air (Thread starter):
I pity those poor people onboard that 752 to IAD. I love the 757, but for a TATL journey, I would choose almost any other aircraft first.

You're missing out. I've crossed the Pond a couple of times in 757, a few times with Thomas Cook Airlines when they had a specially configured all-Y cabin with 35" legroom and again with US Airways from DUB-PHL. No problems at all circulating in the cabin, no middle block of seats and one of the prettiest birds in the sky. What's not to love?  
 
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Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:40 pm

Thanks for this. Many lovely pictures.
I have put a link of this review to my FB page - https://www.facebook.com/flyinbusiness
 
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:47 am

I disagree with the 757 comment. United 757 is amazing, tv, wifi and a comfy seat.
You don't really need anything else, although to be fair none of my flights exceeded 6 hours.

Your report is good. I agree that AA neededa new livery! I quite like the new one actually, has a very sleek, modern vibe about it. The seats in business are great.

Don't like the tablet though, alot of airlines are doing this now! I wouldn't mind if they had a map!!
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Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:29 am

Great trip report with nice pics!
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Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:10 pm

Thanks for the great trip report! Nice pics!

Btw: I had the same food on my AA flight ZRH--JFK last week.
 
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Thu Jul 16, 2015 2:54 pm

It's nice that they give you a cake for those who are not fans of ice cream.

That's new I think.

Your pizza snack is the same as Y but probably better quality.

They used to serve a nice Pizza in Y. But now a not very good one with hardly no cheese. Just an awful cheap sauce.
 
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Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:29 am

Good trip report albeit a long one!. Interesting "dog leg" STN-IOM-MAN. Nice to see local pics also.
Manchester viewing facilities are the best in the UK thereafter it goes down hill rapidly.....
 
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RE: Business Class On AA's 763 Retrofit! MAN-ORD

Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:22 pm

Quoting jamesontheroad (Reply 12):
Thanks for taking the time to share your photographs and your report. Hope you enjoyed your visit to our windswept little islands 
Quoting guitarsingapore (Reply 13):

Thanks for this. Many lovely pictures.
Quoting ATA L1011 (Reply 15):

Great trip report with nice pics!
Quoting Andie007 (Reply 16):

Thanks for the great trip report! Nice pics!
Quoting anjin (Reply 18):

Good trip report albeit a long one!. Interesting "dog leg" STN-IOM-MAN. Nice to see local pics also.

Thank you all for the nice comments!

Quoting jamesontheroad (Reply 12):

My first ever trans-Atlantic flight was MAN-ORD on AA55 in September 2002 which, incidentally, departed from gate 55 at MAN-T3. I noticed that was the gate the JFK flight was using the day you left.

Ah, very cool!

Quoting jamesontheroad (Reply 12):
You're missing out. I've crossed the Pond a couple of times in 757, a few times with Thomas Cook Airlines when they had a specially configured all-Y cabin with 35" legroom and again with US Airways from DUB-PHL. No problems at all circulating in the cabin, no middle block of seats and one of the prettiest birds in the sky. What's not to love?  
Quoting frostyj (Reply 14):
I disagree with the 757 comment. United 757 is amazing, tv, wifi and a comfy seat.
You don't really need anything else, although to be fair none of my flights exceeded 6 hours.

Fair enough.   I just flew on UA's internationally-configured 752 ORD-EWR and it was indeed nice. I wouldn't mind crossing the pond in one of those.

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 17):
It's nice that they give you a cake for those who are not fans of ice cream.
That's new I think.

Indeed, I hadn't heard of the cake choice.

Quoting anjin (Reply 18):

Good trip report albeit a long one!. Interesting "dog leg" STN-IOM-MAN. Nice to see local pics also.
Manchester viewing facilities are the best in the UK thereafter it goes down hill rapidly.....

Oh yes, they were fantastic! And yes, I loved the "dog leg".  
Quoting lychemsa (Reply 17):

They used to serve a nice Pizza in Y. But now a not very good one with hardly no cheese. Just an awful cheap sauce.

Glad I didn't have to try it then, haha.

Thanks again for the nice comments!

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Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:54 pm

What a great trip report and your photos really are both excellent in quality and variety. Really felt I was along for the ride. Well done and Thanks!!!!!!
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Sun Jul 26, 2015 3:41 pm

Quoting luv2fly (Reply 20):
What a great trip report and your photos really are both excellent in quality and variety. Really felt I was along for the ride. Well done and Thanks!!!!!!

Hi luv2fly, thanks for the awesome reply!

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Sun Jul 26, 2015 11:59 pm

I always enjoy your reports, and you take great photos, too!
over a million miles and counting from TYS
 
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RE: Business Class On AA's 763 Retrofit! MAN-ORD

Tue Jul 28, 2015 6:34 pm

Great trip report and photo's. Nice to read a report from MAN, makes a welcome change from the LHR ones and the visitor park at MAN also puts LHR to shame! Did you visit Concorde?
 
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Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:09 pm

Thanks for the TR! Looks like it was a great flight! I loved the spotting photos - I've been to MAN a few times but I have never spent significant time looking for spotting locations near the runways. Always wanted to go the nearby pub.
I have been to the rooftop garage a few times but I dont think they advertise or promote people doing those activites any longer. A sign of the times we live in.

Quoting kann123air (Thread starter):
I did about ten seconds of “car spotting” near the hotel, along the beginning of the trail to the spotting location. I’ve never heard of the Honda Jazz in the states!
Quoting jamesontheroad (Reply 12):
It's the Honda Fit. "Fit" has additional connotations in British English which are not ideal for a car

As jamesontheroad said, it's the Honda Fit in the USA. Same car (albeit with the steering wheel slung on the other side.) It's all marketing, sometimes names are good in one country, not in another. Fit may not be good in the UK, but also Jazz may not be the best in the US either. In either case, it may not describe the intended mission or image of the vehicle.
There are plenty of car models in the UK that are not found on US roads though.

Quoting kann123air (Thread starter):
We stayed at the Airport Inn. It was alright, though nothing like the Renaissance Hotel that we had stayed in before coming up north to Manchester. But hey, they had free breakfast, so I can’t complain there!

Not good for you, but good nonetheless. Love it, good choice!

Quoting kann123air (Thread starter):
I particularly loved the dark clouds in the background of some of the photos.

As is the case most of the time in Manchester!

Quoting kann123air (Thread starter):
spotter at this location showed me this book, which I eventually bought at the Runway Visitor Park on the last evening. It’s a must-have for any dedicated spotter, containing every single registration of every passenger aircraft containing more than 19 seats in the world.

I picked up something similar a few years back. Amazing. You just don't find stuff like that in the US!

Quoting kann123air (Thread starter):
Taken on the walk back. I found it interesting that most signs display in miles here!

The UK is strange - most measurements are done in metric, including weight, liquid measure, area, etc. But miles are retained on road signs, speed limits, and car speedometers. I guess they cannot let go of everything! It does make for some interesting conversions though - such as determining fuel economy of an automobile. MPG becomes harder to figure out when fuel is measured in litres and distance is in miles!

Quoting kann123air (Thread starter):
I pity those poor people onboard that 752 to IAD. I love the 757, but for a TATL journey, I would choose almost any other aircraft first.

Unless you know differently, it could have been EWR bound. Either way, that's 8 hours more or less in a B757. I have not done a flight that long on a B757...but the layout of the B767 is much more agreeable, especially in Economy. (Flew KOA-LAX on a Delta 757 in coach a couple of years ago, that was bad enough.) Love the business class seats you had to ORD though! Great trip, great meals...and lots of photos. A treat, thank you.
None shall pass!!!!
 
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RE: Business Class On AA's 763 Retrofit! MAN-ORD

Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:56 pm

Quoting nate1879 (Reply 22):
I always enjoy your reports, and you take great photos, too!

Hi nate1879, thanks a lot! Glad you enjoy 'em!

Quoting pjack (Reply 23):
Great trip report and photo's. Nice to read a report from MAN, makes a welcome change from the LHR ones and the visitor park at MAN also puts LHR to shame! Did you visit Concorde?

Haha, LHR ones seem to be way more common than MAN ones. Indeed, the Visitor Park is something else. They had a private party at the Concorde during the evening I was there, so I didn't get to go close to it. I entered the building, though, and took a quick peek inside. I admired it for a few moments.

Quoting richierich (Reply 24):
Thanks for the TR! Looks like it was a great flight! I loved the spotting photos - I've been to MAN a few times but I have never spent significant time looking for spotting locations near the runways. Always wanted to go the nearby pub.

Hi richierich, thanks for the reply! It was a great flight. The spotting was awesome. You should visit again and spend more time spotting; it's worth it. The Honey Bee pub? You should visit it, too.

I have been to the rooftop garage a few times but I dont think they advertise or promote people doing those activites any longer. A sign of the times we live in.

Indeed, that's a shame. I hadn't heard of the rooftop garage until I came back to the States. The locals didn't refer to it.

Quoting richierich (Reply 24):
As jamesontheroad said, it's the Honda Fit in the USA. Same car (albeit with the steering wheel slung on the other side.) It's all marketing, sometimes names are good in one country, not in another. Fit may not be good in the UK, but also Jazz may not be the best in the US either. In either case, it may not describe the intended mission or image of the vehicle.

Ah, yes, that makes sense.

Quoting richierich (Reply 24):
Not good for you, but good nonetheless. Love it, good choice!

It tasted great! 
Quoting richierich (Reply 24):
As is the case most of the time in Manchester!

Just for that, another visit is worth it!

Quoting richierich (Reply 24):
I picked up something similar a few years back. Amazing. You just don't find stuff like that in the US!

Right? I wonder why they aren't common in the US.

Quoting richierich (Reply 24):
The UK is strange - most measurements are done in metric, including weight, liquid measure, area, etc. But miles are retained on road signs, speed limits, and car speedometers. I guess they cannot let go of everything! It does make for some interesting conversions though - such as determining fuel economy of an automobile. MPG becomes harder to figure out when fuel is measured in litres and distance is in miles!

Haha, that's very interesting!

Quoting richierich (Reply 24):
Unless you know differently, it could have been EWR bound. Either way, that's 8 hours more or less in a B757. I have not done a flight that long on a B757...but the layout of the B767 is much more agreeable, especially in Economy. (Flew KOA-LAX on a Delta 757 in coach a couple of years ago, that was bad enough.) Love the business class seats you had to ORD though!

The layout of a B767 is much better, and plus, I'd prefer a widebody for a longhaul any day. It just feels more spacious. The seats on MAN-ORD were awesome! Oh, and that 757 was going to IAD, I had checked the registration on flightaware.

Quoting richierich (Reply 24):
Great trip, great meals...and lots of photos. A treat, thank you.

Thank you for the wonderful reply!

Amrit

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