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Air Asia, Office Commuting Between SIN-KUL-SIN

Mon Jul 27, 2015 12:20 pm

Hi guys, with my company Asia-Pacific HQ in Singapore and the new ASEAN Liaison office in Kuala Lumpur I shuttle between the 2 cities on a weekly basis, and sometimes even twice a week.

So I look no further than Air Asia mainly for the convenience of the schedule with 11 daily flights on each direction, and the convenience of fares, very often in the range of US$20-70 one way, making the flight experience like flagging a taxi.

The flight is pretty short, 35 to 55 minutes, from take off to touch down, depending on traffic and weather conditions, to cover the short distance of 185 miles, or 298 kms, exactly like the Delta shuttle ride between New York-La Guardia and Boston-Logan airports (same at 184 miles), and roughly the equivalent of a Fort Lauderdale to Orlando flight within Florida (179 miles).

And it's probably the shortest international flight in the Air Asia network

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Considering the taxi ride from Singapore CBD to Changi airport, check-in time, passport formalities in Singapore (ultra quick via the automated clearance available for residents) and in Kuala Lumpur (quick but often long queues as foreigner), the short flight, and the ride from Kuala Lumpur airport to Kuala Lumpur Sentral via the KLIA Ekspres, plus the taxi ride to Kuala Lumpur KLCC, (and the same on the way back) it takes on average 3 to 3 1/2 hours office to office.

Taxi ride in Singapore is fast, quick, clean and reliable and it takes 20-30 minutes for the 20 kms ride from the CBD (Raffles Place) to Changi airport and roughly S$15-25 (US$10-18).

From Kuala Lumpur airport to downtown Kuala Lumpur I prefer to take the KL Ekspres which, as of today, is the only high-speed train in the ASEAN region and covers the distance of 85 kms in just 33 minutes from KLIA2 terminal to Sentral railway station with just one stop at the KLIA1 terminal, and for just MYR35 one way (US$9).
I void taking a taxi all the way from the airport due to traffic and ... local driving habits  http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20Asia%20commuting%20between%20SIN-KUL-SIN/IMG_7246.jpg

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Then a ride by taxi (only the Executive blue taxi which offers the advantage of a/c) from KL Sentral to KLCC (the office is in front of the Petronas Towers) for MYR20 (US$5) but depending on the time it may take quite a while, or by MRT for MYR1.60 (US$0.40) which is only 5 stops and 5 minutes.

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Air Asia has an all A320 fleet with an all economy configuration of 180 seats in a 3-3 layout, and with the first 5 rows available for priority boarding and priority seating at an additional cost of RM40 (US$10) for the first row and RM30 (US$8) for rows 2 to 5, and they are different from other seats by having a red leather headrest.
I'm always booked in row 1 or 2, window seat, and most of the time the middle seat is empty, although for such a short flight that's not an issue.

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Air Asia departs from Changi terminal 1, the terminal used by airlines like AF, KL, DL, CX, CI, etc., and from KLIA2 terminal at Kuala Lumpur airport, which is a brand-new terminal that started operating one year ago on 2 May 2014

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Air Asia's A320 are painted in an array of different liveries, and here's a selection taken at KLIA2:

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and taken at Changi T1

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Even in a quick 35-minute flight, the Air Asia cabin service (to be paid) starts with delivering pre-booked meals to passengers who have purchased them from the online selection available at the time of booking, then they pass along the cabin with the cart for on-board meals and drinks.
This is the menu available in the seat pocket along with the in-flight magazine and other printed matters:

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The menu offers a selection of local dishes recapped under the more tasting definition of flavours of ASEAN (where ASEAN is the acronym for the 10-economy Association of South-East Asian Nations, the fastest growing macro-market here in Asia), and the following is a pictorial vision of what's available for purchase as meals and snacks:

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And this is how Nasi Lemak is presented when served onboard, courtesy of my fellow flight mate seated next to me on a flight who allowed me to take these 2 pics:

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Nasi Lemak is considered the national dish in Malaysia (from nasi = rice, and lemak - fatty or creamy), gets its origin way back as an all-in-one meal wrapped in a banana leaf and enjoyed by farmers, and it is a recipe of fragrant rise cooked in coconut milk with a spicy chilli paste and accompanied by anchovies that provide the crunchy and salty taste, hard boiled egg, toasted nuts and of course the ever present chicken, in this case chicken rendang which is slow cooked in coconut milk with an array of spices.

Personally I have never tried any meals on Air Asia as I tend to relax and get a snack in the Skyview business class lounge at Changi airport, which is the same lounge I get into when I fly out of Singapore back to the US with DL, or to Europe with AF, KL.
The lounge develops on 2 floors with several different seating lounges and 3 food stations.
As a matter of fact Air Asia offers access to this lounge as part of their Red Carpet service for a fee of S$60 (US$44) when purchased on line, or S$70 (US$51) at the check-in counter, but since I enjoy the Priority Pass membership, access to this lounge is just US$27, hence a deal compared to the Air Asia price.

So here's a selection of pics taken at the Skyview lounge at Changi airport T1 in different moments of the day:

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While I'm quite demanding when flying long-haul (and it's SkyTeam all the way) and for a medium hop like Singapore to Hong Kong I turn to SQ, for such a short half-hour flight, for a day trip to Kuala Lumpur, Air Asia fits well.
Besides I travel with no luggage but just with my laptop case, get priority boarding for seating in row 1 or 2, and use the lounge on my own at Changi so, in the end, it's just like taking a taxi.

And here we have Air France and Air Asia framed together at Changi in the same pic

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That's all folks! hope you will enjoy this trip report as well, and wish you all the best.

[Edited 2015-07-27 05:35:51]
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RE: Air Asia, Office Commuting Between SIN-KUL-SIN

Mon Jul 27, 2015 12:48 pm

Quoting ExpatFlyer (Thread starter):
Hi guys, with my company Asia-Pacific HQ in Singapore and the new ASEAN Liaison office in Kuala Lumpur I shuttle between the 2 cities on a weekly basis, and sometimes even twice a week.

Thanks for the report, but I hate this route, especially after my last experience (blame the weather). It's one of those routes that screams out for a proper fast train. Sadly, this has been delayed yet again. The skies around KUL seem to be so often congested (similarly SIN I suspect), the new KLIA2 terminal is a lot of walking, depending on the gate, then you have to catch the KLIA Ekspres (which is nice) to the not very central Sentral, then either catch a taxi through congested streets or packed public transport to a probably-not-so-convenient station. Considering how new much of KL's public transport infrastructure is (apart from heavy rail) they really stuffed up when it came to integrating it.

Yet, what alternative do you have? The buses are slow and the train slower and the border crossing between Singapore and Malaysia can be a pain, depending on the time of day.

Quoting ExpatFlyer (Thread starter):
Nasi Lemak is considered the national dish in Malaysia (from nasi = rice, and lemak - fatty or creamy), gets its origin way back as an all-in-one meal wrapped in a banana leaf and enjoyed by farmers, and it is a recipe of fragrant rise cooked in coconut milk with a spicy chilli paste and accompanied by anchovies that provide the crunchy and salty taste, hard boiled egg, toasted nuts and of course the ever present chicken, in this case chicken rendang which is slow cooked in coconut milk with an array of spices.

Personally I have never tried any meals on Air Asia as I tend to relax and get a snack in the Skyview business class lounge at Changi airport

Having tried it a few times their nasi lemak is okay, but not superb. I wouldn't rave about any of their dishes that I've tried. The lounge does look nicer.

Despite my negativity, it is a very important route and I'm glad you enjoy it. Thanks for sharing!
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RE: Air Asia, Office Commuting Between SIN-KUL-SIN

Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:21 am

Quoting allrite (Reply 1):
It's one of those routes that screams out for a proper fast train. Sadly, this has been delayed yet again.

The proposed high speed rail connection between Singapore and Kuala Lumpur will not make it faster to connect the 2 business hubs because it won't be a CBD to CBD journey like it happens in Europe or Japan.

While the train will cover the distance of 300 kms in just 90 minutes, the proposed station for Singapore will not be in the CBD but in Jurong East, which will take a good half hour by taxi from CBD (depending on traffic), and the proposed station for Kuala Lumpur will not be in the city center, nor Sentral, but in the former air force base in Sungai Besi, which will take roughly one hour from KLCC to reach.

Hence from Singapore CBD to Kuala Lumpur KLCC it will take more than 3 hours, minimum, by train, which at that stage zeroes completely the advantages of the high-speed train link and will leave flying as the best way of traveling between Singapore and Kuala Lumpur because the high speed train will not be an alternative nor a competitor to flying between the 2 cities.
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RE: Air Asia, Office Commuting Between SIN-KUL-SIN

Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:00 am

Quoting ExpatFlyer (Reply 2):
The proposed high speed rail connection between Singapore and Kuala Lumpur will not make it faster to connect the 2 business hubs because it won't be a CBD to CBD journey like it happens in Europe or Japan.

While the train will cover the distance of 300 kms in just 90 minutes, the proposed station for Singapore will not be in the CBD but in Jurong East, which will take a good half hour by taxi from CBD (depending on traffic), and the proposed station for Kuala Lumpur will not be in the city center, nor Sentral, but in the former air force base in Sungai Besi, which will take roughly one hour from KLCC to reach.

What's the point then? Has it been designed by road planners? At least from Singapore you should be able to take the MRT to a reasonably central location . I assume that it will meet the existing railway from KLIA at Sungai Besi if it's the same airfield I am familiar with from those journeys, so you could theoretically continue on to KL Sentral. KL is one of the few cities I can't get the hang of so I'm not sure where the potential passengers come from relative to the Golden Triangle and the suburbs.

I reckon 3 hours between the centres of the respective capitals is probably competitive, but only if it is convenient, cost effective and minimises the time stuck in KL's traffic jams.  

I'm going to have to read more about the railway!
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RE: Air Asia, Office Commuting Between SIN-KUL-SIN

Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:08 am

Very interesting report ExpatFlyer, thanks for sharing. In the ~8 years I lived in Singapore I hardly ever flew Air Asia and its affiliates other than once CGK-DPS and back and KUL-BTJ and back. I usually found that the schedule was either not convenient at all, or you had to connect via KUL, or TR or JQ/VF were cheaper options.

So am I to assume you didn't have nasi lemak for breakfast? Tsk tsk tsk.

Also surprised to see CX uses the Dnata lounge. I could've sworn CX had their own lounge at SIN, what with the ~8 dailies to HKG.

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RE: Air Asia, Office Commuting Between SIN-KUL-SIN

Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:26 am

Quoting allrite (Reply 3):
What's the point then? Has it been designed by road planners? At least from Singapore you should be able to take the MRT to a reasonably central location . I assume that it will meet the existing railway from KLIA at Sungai Besi if it's the same airfield I am familiar with from those journeys, so you could theoretically continue on to KL Sentral. KL is one of the few cities I can't get the hang of so I'm not sure where the potential passengers come from relative to the Golden Triangle and the suburbs.

The competitive advantage of high speed trains is connecting city center to city center in less time than that required to cover the same distance by plane (city center to departing airport, check-in time, flight from A to B, arrival airport to city center).
That's what happens between London and Paris, or Milan to Rome, just to make 2 examples.

In the case of the Singapore to Kuala Lumpur high speed rail project, originally it was meant to be city-center to city-center, hence the competitive advantage of just 90 minutes from the Lion City to KL was evident compared to Singapore CBD to Changi, check-in, flight to KLIA, and KLIA to Sentral.

But things have changed as they have decided, due to construction costs reasons, to reposition the 2 stations in Jurong East and Sungai Besi respectively, thus eliminating the advantage derived from speed because if you add public transportation to reach or depart from the local railway station, you need to consider well over 3 hours from city center to city center, which is at the end quite similar to what you take today when flying, hence there's no advantage.

Of course they will have to build an entire new rail track for high speed to allow trains to travel at 250/300 kms/hour, but according to current proposed intermediate stations, even Melaka residents will need half hour to reach Ayer Keroh station, and the same applies to other stations as they are all far from major areas.

Unfortunately this will be a suburb-to-suburb journey vs. the original, and logical, city center to city center journey, and the longer it takes the journey the less the high speed train becomes attractive when compared to flying.

Considering that this project has been originally designed with the business travelers in mind, those commuting between the 2 main ASEAN hubs, the total journey time is essential for deciding train vs air.
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RE: Air Asia, Office Commuting Between SIN-KUL-SIN

Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:30 am

Quoting Coal (Reply 4):
Also surprised to see CX uses the Dnata lounge. I could've sworn CX had their own lounge at SIN, what with the ~8 dailies to HKG.

Hi Coal, CX will feature a dedicated lounge when it'll move operations from Changi terminal 1 to the new Changi terminal 4 when it'll open in 2017
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RE: Air Asia, Office Commuting Between SIN-KUL-SIN

Sun Aug 23, 2015 12:57 am

If it is suburbs to suburbs, Singapore might just leave it to Woodlands to save a bit of $, 3 hours, several changes of public transport, air travel still stand a chance
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RE: Air Asia, Office Commuting Between SIN-KUL-SIN

Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:10 pm

Quoting allrite (Reply 3):

What's the point then? Has it been designed by road planners? At least from Singapore you should be able to take the MRT to a reasonably central location . I assume that it will meet the existing railway from KLIA at Sungai Besi if it's the same airfield I am familiar with from those journeys, so you could theoretically continue on to KL Sentral. KL is one of the few cities I can't get the hang of so I'm not sure where the potential passengers come from relative to the Golden Triangle and the suburbs.

The HSR station will be located at the old Sungai Besi Airbase (which will be shifted to another location closer to KUL) & will be connected to the Golden Triangle by a more comprehensive MRT system that covers suburb-to-suburb travel from Sungai Buloh to Putrajaya. The line is phase 2 of the MRT development & is scheduled for a 2017-2021 build to completion. Here's the development website for more info http://www.mymrt.com.my

The only reason KL Sentral is not use is simply space constraints.

In any case, how is the experience of going through KLIA2? Is it really below par as what the locals are moaning about?
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RE: Air Asia, Office Commuting Between SIN-KUL-SIN

Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:04 am

Dude, why not try malindo air? Price is really competitive, brand new 737NG aircrafts, free 20kg luggage, and wayyy better legroom?

That's always been my choice if I have to fly SIN-KUL-SIN
 
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RE: Air Asia, Office Commuting Between SIN-KUL-SIN

Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:43 am

Quoting vandut (Reply 9):
why not try malindo air?

Hi vandut, I have already tried Malindo on SIN/KUL/SIN and in their business class which is a nice 2-2 layout:

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/misc%20pics/IMG_7480.jpg

and they offer a welcome orange juice, a snack of sandwiches on the morning flights and video entertainment:

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/misc%20pics/IMG_7481.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/misc%20pics/IMG_7495.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/misc%20pics/IMG_7493.jpg

but Air Asia has a great frequency of flights (11 daily flights) including the latest flight out of Changi, departing at 23:00, and the latest flight out of KLIA2 departing at 21:30.

Have a great week-end.
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