ExpatFlyer
Topic Author
Posts: 107
Joined: Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:22 am

Air France A380, Business Class, MIA-CDG

Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:11 pm

Hi guys, quick biz trip to good old Europe from sunny Florida, and of course I'm flying Air France which operates the Miami to Paris flight with the A380 during the winter season.

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4473.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4474.jpg

As you can see from the seat plan the Business Class cabin on the Air France A380 does not display the latest version, and we'll step into this later on.

In the meantime, for a preview of the latest Air France J cabin see my TR: Air France, New Business Class, SIN-CDG (by ExpatFlyer Jun 30 2015 in Trip Reports), and for a preview of the new La Premiere Designer Suite see my TR: Air France, La Premiere Designer Suite, CGK-SIN (by ExpatFlyer Aug 18 2015 in Trip Reports)).

So all set for departing on Tue 10 Nov at 8:50pm but in the early afternoon I receive an email from Air France informing of a schedule change as the inbound A380 will arrive very late in Miami due to a detour to Toulouse en-route from Paris to Miami, and the new departure time is now set at ... 3:30am on Wed 11 Nov.

Then a second email informs me of a new flight number that from AF 099 becomes AF 4089, still with a 3:30am departure, and suggests to comply with the original check-in deadline.

Therefore by 6pm I'm at terminal H at Miami airport to discover an overcrowded area by the Air France check-in counter as on top of the delayed departure there's an additional incoming crowd reprojected on the Air France flight due to 2 cancelled flights, respectively Lufthansa and Aeroflot.
With an expected arrival at Paris now set at 6pm vs. the original 11:20am, the Air France check-in staff has to rearrange all connecting flights out of Paris, on top of providing assistance to passengers that need to re-route their itinerary or require hotel accommodation for postponing departure to the following date.
The SkyPriority line is full of passengers who are not SkyPriority and the Air France ground staff suggests me to come back after 10pm, and I follow the suggestion by getting back to the parking lot and driving back home.

By 10pm I'm back at Miami International and swiftly check-in at La Premiere counter, which displays a nice vase of roses, while commenting the handling of the huge delay with the station manager.
http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4516.jpg

The Delta Sky Club lounge closes at 10pm so I'm invited to visit the LATAM lounge which is next to gate J5

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4476.jpg

and why not enjoying a late night bite with a glass of Chandon champagne from California

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4488.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4507.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4489.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4509.jpg

and there's an ample selection of cold cuts, cheeses and salads to choose from

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4506.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4508.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4504.jpg

It's still a good 4 hours before boarding, so good time to keep in touch with the Singapore office (which is only 13-hour time zones away), but midnight in Miami is 1pm in Singapore, while enjoying another round of Chandon sparkling and a look at the tarmac activity

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4496.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4495.jpg

Then at 2:45am, the expected boarding time, I walk to the departing gate J17.

flight: Air France AF 4089 (original flight number AF 099)
route: Miami International to Paris-Charles de Gaulle
aircraft: A380-800
seats 65KL
class: Business Class
cabin load: 79/80
schedule: dep. Miami at 3:30am (original departure 8:50pm) - arr. Paris at 6pm (original arrival 11:20am) (8h 30')
date: Wed 11 Nov 2015

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4519.jpg

The Air France A380 features 9 First Class seats, 80 Business Class seats, 38 Premium Economy seats, and 389 Economy seats for a total of 516 seats.
Currently it flies on routes from Paris to New York (1st flight operated on 23 Nov 2009), Los Angeles, Washington, Miami, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Johannesburg and Abidjan, and from Jan 2016 Mexico City will join the A380 network.

Singapore used to receive the Air France A380 (I flew on that 3 times on the Singapore/Paris/Singapore sectors) for a good one year, from Apr 2012 to Apr 2013 when the A380 was switched to operate the Shanghai route, and today Singapore is served daily with the triple seven featuring the new cabins and routing Paris/Singapore/Jakarta.

The Business Class section is on the Upper Deck of the A380, displayed in 2 cabins, the 1st one with 26 seats from row 60 to 64 and the 2nd one with 54 seats from 65 to 73, with a 2-2-2 layout (the new Air France Business Class cabin, only available on selected B777, offers a 1-2-1 layout and outstanding comfort).

Our 2 seats, 65KL, are in the 1st row of the 2nd cabin, with 65L being a window seat.

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4520.jpg

The seat displays leather headrest and on top of the seat a large sized pillow, duvet and sleepers

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4522.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4528.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4530.jpg

and hanger and as soon as I wrap my jacket on the hanger a smiling flight attendant reaches me to take the jacket

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4523.jpg

No welcome champagne and while on the ground the F/As passes around the cabin to hand out the amenity kit

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4536.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4537.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4538.jpg

then a quick look at the in-flight magazine and safety card
http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4539.jpg

next to the window seat there's a small but useful storage compartment
http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4540.jpg

Then the menu cards are being handed out
http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4542.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4543.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4544.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4545.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4546.jpg

I'll present the dinner menu later on when we get to the dinner service.
In the meantime we are still on the ground as the take-off is delayed to 4:30am, so why not reading some commercial aviation magazine? guess which one

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4548.jpg

End eventually time to depart, and while taxiing we enjoy the creative safety instructions

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4549.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4553.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4554.jpg

20 minutes for taxiing while watching the airport from the camera, and taking-off at 4:45am
http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4555.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4556.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4558.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4559.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4560.jpg

And soon it's dinner time served well beyond 5am.

The menu selection presents the following:

gourmet appetizer and seasonal salad with sun-dried tomatoes: pheasant terrine with figs, pan-searedscallops with mango and seaweed salad
***
choice of main course:

Pan-seared tournedos of beef, port wine sauce, scalloped potatoes, ratatouille
***
Sauteed hake fish with americaine sauce, braised fennel, flat beans
***
Vegetable risotto with butternut squash sauce, eggplant, shimmer mushrooms
***
Today's suggestions: roasted traditional-style free-range spring chicken, bacon, mushrooms, Provencal-style simmered vegetables, buttered broccoli

Selection of cheese

Desserts:
dessert trio
***
macaron, Grand Marnier almond cake
***
chocolate cake with Granny Smith apples
***
sorbet and fresh fruit salad

So let's start with the gourmet appetizer, accompanied by Duval-Leroy Brut Champagne

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4571.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4572.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4569.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4573.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4570.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4574.jpg

and for main course I select the beef tournedos with mustard, and accompanied by Pessac-Leognan 2010 Les Chenes-de-Bouscaut Bordeaux Rouge

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4580.jpg

considering the time (we departed with almost 8 hours delay) also the cheese tray is served along with the main course

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4581.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4582.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4583.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4585.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4590.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4586.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4589.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4588.jpg

and to conclude strawberry sorbet and cognac

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4593.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4595.jpg

A quick look at the in-flight route right before a nap
http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4596.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4597.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4601.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4603.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4604.jpg

Just a good 3-hour nap and time for a good espresso coffee
http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4617.jpg

and a walk to the "museum" area (which nobody uses and would be well turned into a bar-lounge)
http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4621.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4622.jpg

and the stairway to the main deck
http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4623.jpg

Back to my seat and a look at The Little Prince movie
http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4625.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4628.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4629.jpg

Thanks to the tail winds from the Kate tropical storm over the Atlantic, the flight takes only 7h 45', and one hour prior to landing continental breakfast is being served

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4631.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4632.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4633.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4634.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4637.jpg

at 6:25pm Paris time we land at Paris-Charles de Gaulle airport, and by 6:45pm we reach the terminal E

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20A380%20Business%20Class%20MIA-CDG-LIN/IMG_4640.jpg

That's all folks!

Thank you for reading and feel free to leave your comments or check out my other trip reports:

Air France, La Premiere Designer Suite, CGK-SIN (by ExpatFlyer Aug 18 2015 in Trip Reports)

Air France, New Business Class, SIN-CDG (by ExpatFlyer Jun 30 2015 in Trip Reports)

Hawaiian, First, HNL-OAK + Delta, First, SFO-LAX (update) (by ExpatFlyer Jul 18 2015 in Trip Reports)

Garuda, Business Class, MEL-DPS-CGK (by ExpatFlyer Aug 21 2015 in Trip Reports)

Dallas With Delta, FLL-ATL-DAL & DFW-ATL-FLL (by ExpatFlyer Jul 18 2015 in Trip Reports)

Air Asia, Office Commuting Between SIN-KUL-SIN (by ExpatFlyer Jul 27 2015 in Trip Reports)

Ukraine Int'l Airlines, Business Class, KBP-MXP & KBP-FCO (by ExpatFlyer Sep 5 2015 in Trip Reports)

Singapore Airlines, Business Class, KUL-SIN-MXP (by ExpatFlyer Oct 3 2015 in Trip Reports)

[Edited 2015-11-14 10:17:21]
It's so Miami!
 
User avatar
Miami
Posts: 6083
Joined: Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:37 pm

RE: Air France A380, Business Class, MIA-CDG

Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:07 am

Great report, ExpatFlyer! I enjoyed it very much.


Keep those trip reports coming!  
Aviation is proof that given, the will, we have the capacity to achieve the impossible. - Eddie Rickenbacker
 
wingman
Posts: 3817
Joined: Thu May 27, 1999 4:25 am

RE: Air France A380, Business Class, MIA-CDG

Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:39 am

Nice report. After the Dubai airshow though, I have to say that that hard product looks rather substandard. EK, Etihad and the rest are raising the bar to absurd standards.
 
ExpatFlyer
Topic Author
Posts: 107
Joined: Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:22 am

RE: Air France A380, Business Class, MIA-CDG

Sun Nov 15, 2015 4:58 pm

Quoting Miami (Reply 1):

Thank you Miami, much appreciated.
It's so Miami!
 
ExpatFlyer
Topic Author
Posts: 107
Joined: Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:22 am

RE: Air France A380, Business Class, MIA-CDG

Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:13 pm

Quoting wingman (Reply 2):
Nice report. After the Dubai airshow though, I have to say that that hard product looks rather substandard. EK, Etihad and the rest are raising the bar to absurd standards.

Hi wingman and thank you.

As said the J cabin on the Air France A380 is not the latest product which is currently available on selected B777.

Here's a brief selection of pics from my TR Air France, New Business Class, SIN-CDG (by ExpatFlyer Jun 30 2015 in Trip Reports) on the new J product which displays a 1-2-1 layout vs. the 2-2-2 on the A380

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20new%20Business%20Class%20SIN-CDG/IMG_4294.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20new%20Business%20Class%20SIN-CDG/IMG_4296.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20new%20Business%20Class%20SIN-CDG/IMG_4297.jpg

The Air France destinations currently receiving the new Business Class cabin are the following:

· USA: New York-JFK* - Washington - Los Angeles

· Canada: Toronto

· Brazil: Sao Paulo

· Africa: Douala - Malabo - Yaoundé

· UAE: Dubai*

· China: Guangzhou - Shanghai

· Japan: Tokyo-Haneda*

· ASEAN: Singapore* - Jakarta*

Destinations marked with * do also receive the new La Premiere cabin

Check my TR Air France, La Premiere Designer Suite, CGK-SIN (by ExpatFlyer Aug 18 2015 in Trip Reports) for a preview of the new F suite.

Have a great week ahead.
It's so Miami!
 
teahan
Posts: 4994
Joined: Sun Nov 21, 1999 11:18 pm

RE: Air France A380, Business Class, MIA-CDG

Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:13 pm

Good report, thanks.

That breakfast looks shockingly poor.
Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
 
dcajet
Posts: 4288
Joined: Sun Aug 01, 2004 9:31 am

RE: Air France A380, Business Class, MIA-CDG

Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:21 pm

Buenos Aires - EZE has started receiving the new J cabins on selected days out of the daily flights to/from Paris. AF has announced the cut over to all new J cabins is expected for March 2016.
"Unattended children will be given espresso and a free kitten"
 
767747
Posts: 2214
Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:08 am

RE: Air France A380, Business Class, MIA-CDG

Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:32 pm

Thanks for sharing your report! Wow, dinner at 5:00am after you left at 3:30am, and arrival into Paris at 6:45pm ... My body clock would certainly be quite messed up!

Food looks good, but breakfast looks a bit lacking.

Looking forward to your next trip!

Best,

Matthew
I love to fly!
 
ExpatFlyer
Topic Author
Posts: 107
Joined: Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:22 am

RE: Air France A380, Business Class, MIA-CDG

Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:14 pm

Quoting dcajet (Reply 6):

thank you dcajet for sharing the update on EZE receiving the new J product.
It's so Miami!
 
ExpatFlyer
Topic Author
Posts: 107
Joined: Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:22 am

RE: Air France A380, Business Class, MIA-CDG

Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:23 pm

Quoting teahan (Reply 5):
That breakfast looks shockingly poor.
Quoting 767747 (Reply 7):
Food looks good, but breakfast looks a bit lacking.

Hi Matthew, hi teahan:
you're both right as breakfast looked basic, but it was 6pm on an flight supposed to arrive at 11am, and delayed by 7 hours, and just few pax had breakfast, and mine was just continental.

However this is the regular Air France breakfast in J served prior to landing at Paris-Charles de Gaulle (pics taken on flights from Singapore to Paris):

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20new%20Business%20Class%20SIN-CDG/IMG_4419.jpg

http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx192/AF-KL/Air%20France%20new%20Business%20Class%20SIN-CDG/IMG_4425.jpg

Have a great week
It's so Miami!
 
Armodeen
Posts: 1224
Joined: Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:17 am

RE: Air France A380, Business Class, MIA-CDG

Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:01 pm

Thank you for the report, a very nice read  

I've never seen such an uninspiring product on an A380! It's not just the seats (why fit 2-2 when 1-2-1 fits in the same space?!) But the cabin itself is utterly bland and lacking in imagination. It looks like something you would get on a wet lease to be honest.
 
WearyDrover
Posts: 662
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2015 2:12 am

RE: Air France A380, Business Class, MIA-CDG

Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:14 am

Hi ExpatFlyer,

Thanks for sharing your experience.

How frustrating to face lengthy delays particularly as it can upset business plans or result in missed connections.

The meals look well-presented and of a decent size. But what was interaction with cabin crew like?

Regards,
Weary
A man may learn wisdom even from a foe - Aristophanes
 
ExpatFlyer
Topic Author
Posts: 107
Joined: Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:22 am

RE: Air France A380, Business Class, MIA-CDG

Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:18 pm

Quoting Armodeen (Reply 10):
I've never seen such an uninspiring product on an A380!

Hi Armodeen, well, the 2-2-2 layout on the Air France A380 is the same 2-2-2 layout as on Korean Air A380.
The point is that it's the old version of the business class as the latest one, displayed as 1-2-1 across, is being gradually upgraded on the Air France triple seven fleet, at a cost of nearly EUR100,000 per seat, hence quite a huge investment in the range of over EUR200 million, and so far I guess almost 20 B777 have been reconfigured with the new business class.
Frankly the in-flight experience is completely different but the A380 won't see the new J cabin as it's meant for the B777s
It's so Miami!
 
ExpatFlyer
Topic Author
Posts: 107
Joined: Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:22 am

RE: Air France A380, Business Class, MIA-CDG

Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:31 pm

Quoting WearyDrover (Reply 11):
But what was interaction with cabin crew like?

Hi Weary:
frankly zero interaction with the cabin crew.

There was a passenger seated in 65F, a lady with her little kid, who got the attention of a F/A for the entire flight (being served before others, checking on the kid every now and then, cheering and smiling).

But the entire cabin crew was iced-cold, just handing out whatever was to be delivered (amenity kit, menu card, dinner, breakfast) and collecting trays, without a smile, quite robotic.

Totally opposite from what I experienced flying in La Premiere, but business class is becoming a commodity today, and when you see an entire upper deck like on Korean Air, or most of the upper deck on the Air France A380, dedicated to J, you miss the perception of an exclusive cabin.

Air France has introduced the Better Beyond new customer service but my experience in regularly flying with Air France is that every single flight is different story as it all depends on cabin crew attitude.

Hence in some flights I get smiling, welcoming F/As, addressing me by name every time, and in other flights I get robotic F/As performing their job very well but never interacting, and then all the shades in-between according to human nature.

All the best
It's so Miami!
 
nelsony
Posts: 177
Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:21 am

RE: Air France A380, Business Class, MIA-CDG

Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:18 pm

Great TR on this red eye flight!
It is great to see AF serving a meal despite the late night/early morning departure time of 2.45AM and providing so many options.
I recently flew EK F class and they did not provide any meals at all during the night flight, so thumbs up for AF for not being a cheap airline.
But I do hope AF adopts the new 1-2-1 seat on the A380 because that 2x2x2 looks dated.
 
ExpatFlyer
Topic Author
Posts: 107
Joined: Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:22 am

RE: Air France A380, Business Class, MIA-CDG

Fri Nov 20, 2015 8:47 pm

Quoting nelsony (Reply 14):

Hi nelsony, glad you enjoyed my TR.

Indeed you are right as notwithstanding the night departure Air France provided a great service.

The new J is simply exceptional, and the 1-2-1 layout is spacious and in line with the latest trend for J, but the A380 will keep the old J and the 2-2-2 layout.

Have a great week-end

[Edited 2015-11-20 12:47:52]
It's so Miami!
 
anjin
Posts: 69
Joined: Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:49 pm

RE: Air France A380, Business Class, MIA-CDG

Sat Nov 21, 2015 6:18 pm

Not sure a flight from Paris-Miami would route via Toulouse unless for a part?. TLS is completely in the wrong direction?
Eating at 0430 in the morning also, um i know what I would have done        
 
ExpatFlyer
Topic Author
Posts: 107
Joined: Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:22 am

RE: Air France A380, Business Class, MIA-CDG

Sat Nov 21, 2015 8:02 pm

Quoting anjin (Reply 16):
Not sure a flight from Paris-Miami would route via Toulouse unless for a part?. TLS is completely in the wrong direction?

Hi anjin, as a matter of fact the Air France flight from Paris to Miami is always non-stop.

There was a situation on the inbound flight AF 090 on 10Nov from Paris to Miami which required a diversion in Toulouse (see https://it.flightaware.com/live/flight/AFR90/history/20151110/1930Z/LFBO/KMIA), hence the huge delay on arrival at Miami and therefore on departure from Miami.

Once on board the Captain made an announcement describing the diversion to Toulouse on the Miami-bound flight as the reason for the delay but did not provide any additional info.
It's so Miami!
 
jns13
Posts: 100
Joined: Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:54 am

RE: Air France A380, Business Class, MIA-CDG

Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:09 am

Great report! Strange to imagine arriving at 6pm on a NA-Europe flight--any word on how the onward legs flown by that aircraft were affected?

Seems like the AF J cabin needed the recent refresh but, aside from that, wow does AF do a great job with product design--the amenity, menu, and dinner presentation were all gorgeous, and nicer than anything I've seen pictures of on any carrier (though I do like the look of the new Etihad amenity kits!).

Thought the sorbet presentation was especially tasteful (pun not intended)--was that a silver tray it looks like it's served on?
 
ExpatFlyer
Topic Author
Posts: 107
Joined: Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:22 am

RE: Air France A380, Business Class, MIA-CDG

Sun Dec 20, 2015 7:33 pm

Quoting jns13 (Reply 18):
Great report! Strange to imagine arriving at 6pm on a NA-Europe flight--any word on how the onward legs flown by that aircraft were affected?

Seems like the AF J cabin needed the recent refresh but, aside from that, wow does AF do a great job with product design--the amenity, menu, and dinner presentation were all gorgeous, and nicer than anything I've seen pictures of on any carrier (though I do like the look of the new Etihad amenity kits!).

Thought the sorbet presentation was especially tasteful (pun not intended)--was that a silver tray it looks like it's served on?

Hi Jordan, thank you and I'm glad you did enjoy my TR.

Considering the hours passengers spent at Miami airport for the check-in, the Air France airport staff had to practically rebook most of the passengers with fresh new onward connections either on the late evening batch of flights out of Paris-Charles de Gaulle, or accommodate them for the night in the very many hotels within the airport area and have them depart on the following morning flights.

Yes, indeed Air France has done a great job especially with the new La Premiere and new Business class cabins, and if you want to have a preview, please have a look at my TRs on Air France, La Premiere Designer Suite, CGK-SIN (by ExpatFlyer Aug 18 2015 in Trip Reports) and Air France, New Business Class, SIN-CDG (by ExpatFlyer Jun 30 2015 in Trip Reports)

Happy and merry holidays.

[Edited 2015-12-20 12:15:42]
It's so Miami!
 
jns13
Posts: 100
Joined: Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:54 am

RE: Air France A380, Business Class, MIA-CDG

Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:30 am

Quoting ExpatFlyer (Reply 19):
Yes, indeed Air France has done a great job especially with the new La Premiere and new Business class cabins, and if you want to have a preview, please have a look at my TRs on Air France, La Premiere Designer Suite, CGK-SIN (by ExpatFlyer Aug 18 2015 in Trip Reports) and Air France, New Business Class, SIN-CDG (by ExpatFlyer Jun 30 2015 in Trip Reports)

Happy and merry holidays.

I'll check them out, thanks! Enjoy your holidays, too!
 
ba319-131
Posts: 8300
Joined: Sat Jan 13, 2001 1:27 pm

RE: Air France A380, Business Class, MIA-CDG

Sat Dec 26, 2015 10:40 pm

Nice read and pictures, thanks for sharing.

With a departure time that you had, I think I would have been too tired to eat!

Breakfast looked a pretty poor show.

I flew AF in Y CDG-JFK when they first started using the A380 there, Y service was pretty decent for the price, I don't think J is cost wise.


Cheers

Mark
111 732 733 734 735 736 73G 738 739,7M8 BBJ 741 742 743 744 752 753 762 763 764 772 77L 773 77W L15 D10 D30 D40 AB3 AB6 312 313 318 319 320 20N 321 21N 332 333 342 343 345 346 359 351 388 CS1 CS3 I86 154 SSJ CRJ CR7 CR9 CRK 145 170 175 220

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: JarradS, quarryking and 64 guests

Popular Searches On Airliners.net

Top Photos of Last:   24 Hours  •  48 Hours  •  7 Days  •  30 Days  •  180 Days  •  365 Days  •  All Time

Military Aircraft Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe

Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos