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Inaugurating FR From Israel: VDA-BUD-CPH (+IZ ATR)

Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:21 am

Inaugurating Ryanair from Israel: VDA-BUD-CPH (+IZ SDV-ETH)

Background:
After many years of anticipation, the European low cost monster Ryanair has opened service to Israel on November 2015. FR inaugurated routes from Lithuania, Poland and Hungary to Ovda airport, near Eilat, FR's first destination in Asia. New routes aimed for tourists who wish to de-frost themselves on the Red sea beach during winter, yet for us Israelis, it gave the option to fly ridiculously cheap to Europe. So once new routes opened for sale, my credit card was pulled out and you know how it goes.

Out of the 3 options (BUD, KRK & KUN) Budapest was the most attractive one, and if I'm already there, why not fly FR for peanuts to get to another place? Copenhagen therefore was the next stop, a place I have never been before, giving me my first visit to Scandinavia. Booking was done way back in July at Ryanair.com, VDA-BUD was 35 USD (the opening price of 29.90 Euros) & BUD-CPH was 26 USD. Fellow aviation enthusiast and friend for years, Gilad Goren, joined me.



To get to Ovda, I booked a SDV-ETH flight with Arkia and decided if I'm already on vacation, I decided to stay a night in Eilat, even though I could have done it all in one day. In theory, I could have taken an hour long train to Beer Sheva, and from there another 2.5 hours by bus to Ovda, but where is the fun in that? Fun fact: the 284km flight from Tel Aviv to Eilat was more expensive than the 2,364km flight from Ovda to Budapest, god bless Ryanair.

Flying: After some non-aviation arrangements in Tel Aviv in the morning, I got to SDV airport at 11:30. I checked in and got a boarding pass for seat 9D on the ATR 72-500 that will take me to Eilat. Even though flying out of TLV was cheaper (123 NIS in comparison to 183 NIS) I use every chance I have to fly out of SDV, as the airport is due to close down soon. External view:
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Security and check in takes just few minutes in this small city-center airport:
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Boarding was called, and we were bussed to 4X-AVU, my second ride on that plane. Airside:
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This is "the box," Ayit's Shorts featured in this report from 2010:
Flying The Box: Ayit Shorts 360 SDV-RPN-SDV (by el-al Oct 10 2010 in Trip Reports)
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Boarding:
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Pushback was right on time and we departed to Eilat. Off we go – first time I am flying to Eilat in order to fly abroad:


Cruising:


Cabin:
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After 51 minutes in the air we landed on runway 3:




Quick disembarking:
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From the airport I walked to C hotel, where I booked a night because the place is located perfectly between the airport and the bus station and had a good price for a standard **** hotel – not to mention its nice runway view from my room:
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Some pics from the walk I had next morning in Eilat:
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I had one hell of acclimatization to do on this trip! From 28C in Eilat to 17C in Budapest, then to cold ~5C in Copenhagen, and all that with only one carry-on bag!

Well, let's get to business. After a morning walk and breakfast, I went to buy some food at a local supermarket (in Israel you CAN take liquids on board planes, I guess we know nothing about security) then I met Gilad and we took the short walk to the bus station. At first, we planned to board the bus in the picture, 392, connecting Eilat and Beer Sheva via Ovda airport:
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Yet, In preparation for new LCC flights, the bus company launched another line connecting VDA to Eilat hotels and bus station (25 NIS/6 Euros per passenger), adjusted to flights timetable, without the continuation to Beer Sheva (http://www.egged.co.il/Article-4917-Ovda-Airport-Transfer.aspx); so we took it as it drove right to the terminal without any intermediate stops:




On the bus, the road to Ovda offers a beautiful desert view, which was a nice change from the urban environment I have on most days:
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The fence on the left is the border between Israel and Egypt:
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The bus ride took 50 minutes, and soon we were dropped off next to the terminal for our 17:00 departure:
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I was so excited! My first time in Ovda airport, and the first time I am flying out of Israel from an airport which is not TLV. Terminal view:
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Ovda airport, VDA, is an IAF base built in 1982, due to Israel's withdrawal from Sinai as part of the peace agreement with Egypt. Fun fact for those who say that Israel is refusing to make peace - it gave an area 1.5 times its own size just to make peace with one country. Oh sorry, back on topic.

When the airport was completed, Israel's Airports Authority decided to build a passenger terminal on the west side of the airport in order to remove all international traffic out of small and congested ETH, and that's how it's working ever since: int'l traffic to VDA, domestic traffic to ETH. A new airport in Timna, 18km north of Eilat, will replace both airports. That is due to open in the summer of 2017. Check in hall:
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A local company did the check-in and all crew members were very friendly. No one weighed or measured anyone's carry-on bag and even though it was Ryanair's first week of operation in Israel, all passengers seemed to know they needed to check in online and to bring the boarding pass with them. Airside:
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FIDS:
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Our plane arrived. Notice the C130 behind it:
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Boarding was called 35 minutes before takeoff. External airside view:
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Heading to EI-ENW:
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I sat in the exit row seat, and was hoping to have 3 seats to myself, but at the very last minute prior to takeoff a Hungarian passenger quickly made a move from her seat to the aisle to gain the extra legroom. So I 'only' had the middle seat empty. Legroom:
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View from my window – pretty strange to sit in a B737 parking in the middle of the desert:
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Right on time we taxied and took off 8 minutes later from 2L, into the desert evening skies:
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We had a great view of Israel that evening, as the plane headed northeast towards the Dead Sea, then turned left over Jerusalem, Tel Aviv and on to Cyprus and Europe. Cabin, LF was 80% - good load for first operations week! About 1/3 of the passengers were Israelis and the rest were Hungarians:
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Flight passed very well. I was pleased to notice that Ryanair stopped using the PA system for advertising (as I remember from my SVQ-REU FR flight in 2010) and with the extra legroom and empty middle seat I was very comfortable. I bought (strong Hungarian) coffee, ate the sandwiches I bought earlier, Gilad (who bought himself 1A seat) and I talked a bit, and before we noticed it was time to land in Budapest. Disembarking:
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RE: Inaugurating FR From Israel: VDA-BUD-CPH (+IZ ATR)

Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:23 am

After passport control, we took the 200E bus and metro to our hotel, checked in and went out to get some great Hungarian goose liver for dinner:
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Next day, weather was lovely, with +17C and sunny sky. Some pics from the Hungarian Capitol:
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Inside the Hungarian parliament:
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Older and current Hungary's borders:
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Hello again, Mr. Reagan:


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Apparently they have a conflict regarding a statue in the city center:




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Well, as I was in Budapest a year ago, my visit was pretty short and after 2 nights I was heading to Copenhagen. I left my hotel and made it to the airport in 40 minutes. Going down Budapest's deep metro:
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External view:
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Looking to the aviation museum near the terminal, only from outside this time:
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Check in:
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At the counter, I was surprised that FR's employee said in the end in Hebrew "thank you and have a nice flight." She probably works for Tel Aviv flights too. Airside:
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After security I had lunch at the airport, then I was off to the Ryanair gates area. It’s an area that was once a part of the tarmac, now being used to mobilize passengers to the airplanes without using air bridges or buses:


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It was a bit strange for me, but I must say that as an aviation enthusiast, it was pretty cool to actually walk on the tarmac all the way to the airplane. Our ride was EI-EMK, pained in the special "UK airport transfers" livery:
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I was seated in 8A, with the flight being 100% full. From my seat:
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And off we go:
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Beautiful sunset over Poland:
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Legroom:
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Cabin from my seat:
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After a breathtaking approach over Malmo and the bridge connecting Sweden and Denmark, we landed in CPH and disembarked to the Low cost terminal, which is basically an extension of terminal 3. Man, it was cold! The 2 minute walk to the terminal, it made me wonder if it was wise to visit Scandinavia in November…
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I took the train (36 DKK) to the central train station – those Danish-made IC3 trains also serve Israel railways back home:
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I spent the next 2 days in Copenhagen (and few hours in Malmo, Sweden) I really fell in love with the city. Copenhagen is friendly, calm, attractive and an interesting place to visit, with the Danish being the nicest possible hosts. I will defiantly visit again. Some pics:
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Welcome to LEGO nation:


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Nyhavn:
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Guards change in front of the Royal Palace:
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The masses of tourists around poor little mermaid:
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View from the top of Frederiks Kirke:
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In the horizon you can see Oresund bridge:
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People laying flowers and the flag flying at half pole at the French embassy in Copenhagen, the day after the terror attack in Paris:


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Conclusion: both of us were very pleased with the flight. Getting to Ovda was easier than expected, the airport is well equipped, flight was smooth and at the bottom line – we made it from Israel to Europe at the price of a bus ride; a new thing for us Israelis. As for the flight to CPH – it got me there cheap and on time, which was exactly what I expected.

I hope the new Ryanair flights will open Eilat, which was mainly a domestic tourist destination, to more Europeans, and will enable us Israelis to visit Europe for peanuts. So far, it looks good and hopefully FR will add more destinations next winter. Ryanair made Ovda a gateway to Israel and made traffic in and out of southern Israel cheap and easy.

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RE: Inaugurating FR From Israel: VDA-BUD-CPH (+IZ ATR)

Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:28 am

Hi Jonathan,

Once again a great trip report. It is good to see how you were able to put together an interesting itinerary featuring more than one destination.

Agree with you, it is enjoyable to be able to walk across the apron to the aircraft, specially if they let you take photos.

Funny that you should mention the high domestic fare compared with international with FR. I have just booked flights from PER to CBR. For only 40% more I could fly to Europe.

Thanks for sharing and posting photos of the different aircraft types and airline liveries.

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RE: Inaugurating FR From Israel: VDA-BUD-CPH (+IZ ATR)

Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:28 pm

Thank you for the kind words. It was a nice report with good pictures. I've been wanting to visit Eilat for many years. Hopefully it'll be financially more realistic now.
 
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RE: Inaugurating FR From Israel: VDA-BUD-CPH (+IZ ATR)

Thu Dec 03, 2015 2:39 pm

Wow; fascinating trip.

I went to Israel but never made it to Eilat.

Interesting that Cyprus fly to Ovda.
 
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RE: Inaugurating FR From Israel: VDA-BUD-CPH (+IZ ATR)

Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:30 pm

Great report, nice to see Ryan air getting some good remarks for a change  

Glad you enjoyed it

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RE: Inaugurating FR From Israel: VDA-BUD-CPH (+IZ ATR)

Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:11 pm

Thanks for the fantastic report.

Ovda seems like a very exotic location for an FR 737, but it's great to see them launch a new country! The fare seems too low to resist, I'm guessing W6 fares on TLV-BUD are quite a bit higher?

All the best
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RE: Inaugurating FR From Israel: VDA-BUD-CPH (+IZ ATR)

Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:17 pm

Great TR as always!

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
Out of the 3 options (BUD, KRK & KUN) Budapest was the most attractive one

Krakow is also wonderful - maybe next time?

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
This is "the box," Ayit's Shorts featured in this report from 2010:

Still active flying?

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 4):
Interesting that Cyprus fly to Ovda.

Nope, TUS Airways: http://www.tusairways.com/
 
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RE: Inaugurating FR From Israel: VDA-BUD-CPH (+IZ ATR)

Sat Dec 05, 2015 11:53 am

Quoting WearyDrover (Reply 2):
Once again a great trip report. It is good to see how you were able to put together an interesting itinerary featuring more than one destination.

Thank you Weary. As I was in Budapest in 2014, I wanted to add another destenation I can get for cheap with FR. I think about adding London (STN) or Rome (CIA) to my next Ryanair destenation.

Quoting WearyDrover (Reply 2):
Agree with you, it is enjoyable to be able to walk across the apron to the aircraft, specially if they let you take photos.

No seems to care about me taking pictures at any of the 5 airports in this report.


Quoting WearyDrover (Reply 2):
Funny that you should mention the high domestic fare compared with international with FR. I have just booked flights from PER to CBR. For only 40% more I could fly to Europe.

Well, its common problem I guess, but what you can do here and not in Australia is to cover this distance by 4 hours in the car...

Quoting WearyDrover (Reply 2):
Thanks for sharing and posting photos of the different aircraft types and airline liveries.

You welcome.

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 3):
Thank you for the kind words. It was a nice report with good pictures. I've been wanting to visit Eilat for many years. Hopefully it'll be financially more realistic now.

Hey buddy, you guys live in a really great place up there, cold or not. Now it's pretty easy for you guys to get to Eilat, do what I did just the other way around.

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 4):
Wow; fascinating trip.

Thank you.

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 4):
I went to Israel but never made it to Eilat.

Too bad, you can get some nice airplanes and cool landing flying into ETH.

Quoting moby147 (Reply 5):

Great report, nice to see Ryan air getting some good remarks for a change.  Glad you enjoyed it

Thank you, I was reading a lot of harsh comments about Ryanair over here, I totally disagree with them. Didn't find FR worse than any other LCC airline in Europe.

Quoting eurowings (Reply 6):
Thanks for the fantastic report.

Thank you my freind.

Quoting eurowings (Reply 6):
Ovda seems like a very exotic location for an FR 737, but it's great to see them launch a new country! The fare seems too low to resist, I'm guessing W6 fares on TLV-BUD are quite a bit higher?

You can make it from TLV to BUD and back for ~200 USD for most days of the year, using UP and/or Wizzair. Not very expansive, but still more than twice the price or FR from VDA.

Quoting debonair (Reply 7):
Great TR as always!

Thank you debonair.

Quoting debonair (Reply 7):
Krakow is also wonderful - maybe next time?

Hmm... my grandparents came from that part of the world, and I grew up listening to thier horror stories from the war. I still can't go there to visit like any other tourist, maybe in few more years but not now.

Quoting debonair (Reply 7):
Still active flying?

Yep, making a trip twice a day from Tel Aviv to Rosh Pina and back.

Quoting debonair (Reply 7):
Nope, TUS Airways

  
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RE: Inaugurating FR From Israel: VDA-BUD-CPH (+IZ ATR)

Fri Dec 11, 2015 11:04 pm

Thanks for this, I had no idea FR had started their Israel flights already. Glad you had a nice experience. Copenhagen is a lovely city, great photos.

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Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:58 am

Interesting. I am flying to Israel soon and I took a look at Ovda with Ryanair to do something different than TLV, but I was not sure about how to get there by public transportation and I was not in the mood to rent a car (and then heading back to TLV with another domestic flight). And obviously it needs a "Ryanair connection" from Western Europe (to BUD, Kaunas or KRK).

But maybe next time... hopefully Ryanair expands in Ovda. Or maybe it will be worth waiting for the new airport... that terminal looks dreadful even for Ryanair standards 
 
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RE: Inaugurating FR From Israel: VDA-BUD-CPH (+IZ ATR)

Tue Dec 15, 2015 7:17 am

Thanks for a very nice report. I have made several recent flights on FR and have to say that it is more enjoyable experience than before. It also helps that I have matured as a FR passenger (know what to expect   ).

And thanks for posting the pictures of your bus drive as well as views from your hotel in Eilat. I plan to visit Israel soon as, to me, it is a gorgeous land!

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RE: Inaugurating FR From Israel: VDA-BUD-CPH (+IZ ATR)

Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:04 pm

Love Eilat, its my kind of place.
 
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RE: Inaugurating FR From Israel: VDA-BUD-CPH (+IZ ATR)

Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:31 am

Thanks for sharing! Brings back memories as I have visited Eilat twice, first in the mid 70s by car from Jerusalem, later in early 80s by plane. Charters from Europe to Eilat were more common in those days.The Super Caravelle did a technical stop in Athens, on the way back in Rhodes. Currently all the international flights are to OVD right? IIRC the new airport(Ramon) was planned already years ago, hence the temporary looking terminal building at OVD? Will the existing Eilat airport be closed after 2017?
 
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Sat Dec 19, 2015 3:26 pm

Quoting saleya22r (Reply 13):
Thanks for sharing! Brings back memories as I have visited Eilat twice, first in the mid 70s by car from Jerusalem, later in early 80s by plane.

Probably the best times, though it still looks like from that era, too bad the airport is being replaced, added to the ambience.

Quoting EL-AL (Thread starter):
Ovda airport, VDA, is an IAF base built in 1982, due to Israel's withdrawal from Sinai as part of the peace agreement with Egypt. Fun fact for those who say that Israel is refusing to make peace - it gave an area 1.5 times its own size just to make peace with one country. Oh sorry, back on topic.

Just read the report, rather pointless fact, considering the occupation and usurping of Palestinan and Syrian lands.

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RE: Inaugurating FR From Israel: VDA-BUD-CPH (+IZ ATR)

Sun Dec 20, 2015 4:09 pm

Nice report. Israel is def. on the list of places to see one day.

I can't get over how horrible the interior of Ryanair's 737 is. Those yellow overhead bins / seat-backs are making a cheap product looks even worse. I've flown with them once from Dublin to Tampere, Finland. It was nothing to write home about, but what do you expect for $35.00?

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RE: Inaugurating FR From Israel: VDA-BUD-CPH (+IZ ATR)

Wed Dec 23, 2015 5:59 am

Hi EL-AL

Great trip report with lots of nice pictures, thanks for sharing

I have never looked at Ryanair as a connection carrier, but now see it another way. Could be fun to do the reverse trip of yours and fly down to visit Israel from Copenhagen.
 
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RE: Inaugurating FR From Israel: VDA-BUD-CPH (+IZ ATR)

Thu Dec 24, 2015 8:30 am

Great and detailed report. It's been a while since I last flew Ryanair, but I already followed their rules and never had any problems with them. The labour-unions in Denmark have strongly opposed them starting operations at CPH, but it does indeed seem to be the case that the routes are working well.

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RE: Inaugurating FR From Israel: VDA-BUD-CPH (+IZ ATR)

Fri Dec 25, 2015 5:06 am

Hi LY,

Thanks a lot for sharing! A really interesting look into domestic Israeli aviation   The report with the Shorts 360 is really cool as well. Is it still being used?

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Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:07 pm

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 9):
Thanks for this, I had no idea FR had started their Israel flights already. Glad you had a nice experience. Copenhagen is a lovely city, great photos.

Cheers from an ex FR crew

Thx buddy, Copenhagen is indeed very nice city.

Quoting SCQ83 (Reply 10):
Interesting. I am flying to Israel soon and I took a look at Ovda with Ryanair to do something different than TLV, but I was not sure about how to get there by public transportation and I was not in the mood to rent a car (and then heading back to TLV with another domestic flight). And obviously it needs a "Ryanair connection" from Western Europe (to BUD, Kaunas or KRK).

There is no need to rent a car (I am not sure you can even do that in Ovda, buses do very good job and don't cost much.

Quoting SCQ83 (Reply 10):
hopefully Ryanair expands in Ovda. Or maybe it will be worth waiting for the new airport... that terminal looks dreadful even for Ryanair standards

I didn't see anything wrong or missing in VDA terminal... just a small airport. Anyway as I mentioned in 2017 it will be history.

Quoting andrej (Reply 11):
Thanks for a very nice report. I have made several recent flights on FR and have to say that it is more enjoyable experience than before. It also helps that I have matured as a FR passenger (know what to expect ).

Hey mate, you welcome. Ryanair is indeed making progress in passenger experience, and now is not a bad airline to fly with (way better than Vueling, for example).

Quoting andrej (Reply 11):
And thanks for posting the pictures of your bus drive as well as views from your hotel in Eilat. I plan to visit Israel soon as, to me, it is a gorgeous land!

Wow that bus ride was the best part of the trip... I may take a bus all the way from Beer Sheva next time. Hotel views are also great, we need to enjoy the 1.5 years left to ETH airport in its current location.

Quoting saleya22r (Reply 13):
Thanks for sharing! Brings back memories as I have visited Eilat twice, first in the mid 70s by car from Jerusalem, later in early 80s by plane. Charters from Europe to Eilat were more common in those days.The Super Caravelle did a technical stop in Athens, on the way back in Rhodes. Currently all the international flights are to OVD right? IIRC the new airport(Ramon) was planned already years ago, hence the temporary looking terminal building at OVD? Will the existing Eilat airport be closed after 2017?

You welcome my friend, the days when the Caravelle flew to Eilat are long gone.... VDA is indeed due to be replaced by Ramon airport in 2017, but I don't think the terminal which was built in 1982 was built as a temporary one.

Quoting 777way (Reply 14):
Just read the report, rather pointless fact, considering the occupation and usurping of Palestinan and Syrian lands.

My friend, I have no intention making this trip report another never-ending-more-of-the-same-middle-east-politics thread; use the non-av forum for that.

Quoting vio (Reply 15):
Nice report. Israel is def. on the list of places to see one day.

I can't get over how horrible the interior of Ryanair's 737 is. Those yellow overhead bins / seat-backs are making a cheap product looks even worse. I've flown with them once from Dublin to Tampere, Finland. It was nothing to write home about, but what do you expect for $35.00?

Hey vio, If you do come to Israel i'll buy you lunch and free spotting tour   Indeed nothing to complain when you buy 3.5 hours flight for $35, in particular when you compare in to flights prices in Canada....

Quoting dc9super80 (Reply 16):
Great trip report with lots of nice pictures, thanks for sharing

You welcome.

Quoting dc9super80 (Reply 16):
I have never looked at Ryanair as a connection carrier, but now see it another way. Could be fun to do the reverse trip of yours and fly down to visit Israel from Copenhagen

And why not? if its cheap and flight times are right, they can be good connection operators. It will be a cheap way for you to get to southern Israel.

Quoting invaders (Reply 17):
Great and detailed report

Thank you.

Quoting invaders (Reply 17):
It's been a while since I last flew Ryanair, but I already followed their rules and never had any problems with them. The labour-unions in Denmark have strongly opposed them starting operations at CPH, but it does indeed seem to be the case that the routes are working well.
Looking forward to your next report

My flight was full and the CPH LCC terminal was busy... I'm glad the government didn't let unions to ruin a cheap way to get to this expensive country.

My flight back home was nothing to write home about, Aeroflot CPH-SVO-TLV with A320 and B77W, I don't think worth the time of writing something.

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 18):
Thanks a lot for sharing! A really interesting look into domestic Israeli aviation The report with the Shorts 360 is really cool as well. Is it still being used?

Thank you my friend, you can take a look at some of my other reports about domestic aviation in Israel. Yes the 1989 built Shorts is still making a flight up north to RPN twice a day.
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RE: Inaugurating FR From Israel: VDA-BUD-CPH (+IZ ATR)

Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:20 am

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 19):
Quoting 777way (Reply 14):
Just read the report, rather pointless fact, considering the occupation and usurping of Palestinan and Syrian lands.

My friend, I have no intention making this trip report another never-ending-more-of-the-same-middle-east-politics thread; use the non-av forum for that.

I agree, but since you had mentioned the peace bit which wasnt needed in the TR, I thought I would respond to it.
 
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RE: Inaugurating FR From Israel: VDA-BUD-CPH (+IZ ATR)

Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:01 am

Quoting AL" class="quote" target="_blank">EL-AL (Reply 19):
Hey vio, If you do come to Israel i'll buy you lunch and free spotting tour   Indeed nothing to complain when you buy 3.5 hours flight for $35, in particular when you compare in to flights prices in Canada....

That sounds like a plan. I hope you forgive me, but I won't fly Ryanair there. As an airline employee I have sworn not to help out companies that try to pay their workers as little as possible. "$35.00 fares" are unrealistic and an insult to the professionals that work in aviation. For that amount of money one deserve to take a bus to his or her next town.

I would love to fly Air Canada's Dreamliner to Tel Aviv or even El AL. Regardless, Israel is a country I shall visit soon.
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