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Re: LAX to lose remaining QF 744

Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:55 am

speedbird52 wrote:
Doesn't Qantas alternately operate the 744 from Sidney as well?


Only once per week and that flight will most likely return to an A380 as soon as they have aircraft available (which should be after MEL-LHR goes to a 789 in March, well before BNE-LAX goes to a 789 in Sep-Oct).
 
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Re: LAX to lose remaining QF 744

Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:18 am

Will the JFK leg continue?
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Re: LAX to lose remaining QF 744

Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:40 am

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Will the JFK leg continue?


Yes, but will obviously be operated by the 789.
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:35 am

Last Pratt powered CI 744 went to VCV last week B-18208 (delivered 98) . That leaves them with an active fleet of all GE powered 744s now comprising the last 4 pax 744s manufactured and 18 of the 21 freighters they took delivery of.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:10 pm

Are there any significant passenger airlines that plan on flying the 747 indefinitely? It seems most airlines have definite replacement plans.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:02 pm

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Are there any significant passenger airlines that plan on flying the 747 indefinitely? It seems most airlines have definite replacement plans.

Well, all airlines have replacement plans once certain aircraft types become older. 744, 777, A330, it doesnt matter. I am pretty sure EK and SQ for example have phase-out plans for most of their 77W fleet as they are leased and replacements are already on order.
For the 748 that is of course much to early, so to answer your question, LH, KE and CA wont have definite plans for the 747.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:18 pm

Med View TF-AMV flew into Kemble yesterday.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:59 pm

Royal Air Maroc 744 CN-RGA is on his way to China for D-check so we can expect to see her for a few more years.
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:34 pm

Delta’s final flights will be a domestic farewell tour Dec 18-20
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:05 pm

British Airways has confirmed final B747-400 flight in February 2024. Possibly final 747-400 in service???
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:17 pm

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British Airways has confirmed final B747-400 flight in February 2024. Possibly final 747-400 in service???


Not a chance.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:46 pm

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British Airways has confirmed final B747-400 flight in February 2024. Possibly final 747-400 in service???

They will probably be the last major airline,but some charters company or other small operators will keep the 747-400 flying,probably until the end of 2020s
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:48 pm

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Delta’s final flights will be a domestic farewell tour Dec 18-20

And a few NFL charters after that. :D

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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:57 pm

Boair wrote:
george77300 wrote:
British Airways has confirmed final B747-400 flight in February 2024. Possibly final 747-400 in service???

They will probably be the last major airline,but some charters company or other small operators will keep the 747-400 flying,probably until the end of 2020s


QF’s 744ER’s could still be around then, in terms of major airlines regular 744’s QF will have 3 until probably 2023ish and LH maybe around the same time for the last 744’s.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:56 am

delta747tlv wrote:
Delta’s final flights will be a domestic farewell tour Dec 18-20


Open to the public? What is the schedule?
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:59 pm

https://worldairlinenews.com/2017/11/14 ... e-flights/

Where will DL be sending their final 747 to retirement in AZ? is Marana the only place in Arizona that would be?
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:50 pm

trex8 wrote:
Last Pratt powered CI 744 went to VCV last week B-18208 (delivered 98) . That leaves them with an active fleet of all GE powered 744s now comprising the last 4 pax 744s manufactured and 18 of the 21 freighters they took delivery of.


UPDATE:
It seems they've retired a GE powered bird, too.
First, a pilot told me (I know, I know), but second, planefinder lists just three, and third, B-18210 hasn't flown in November at all.
Of note, this was previously the aircraft gorgeously adorned with the Boeing Dreamliner livery.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:27 am

AA737-823 wrote:
trex8 wrote:
Last Pratt powered CI 744 went to VCV last week B-18208 (delivered 98) . That leaves them with an active fleet of all GE powered 744s now comprising the last 4 pax 744s manufactured and 18 of the 21 freighters they took delivery of.


UPDATE:
It seems they've retired a GE powered bird, too.
First, a pilot told me (I know, I know), but second, planefinder lists just three, and third, B-18210 hasn't flown in November at all.
Of note, this was previously the aircraft gorgeously adorned with the Boeing Dreamliner livery.


Update to the update:
B18210 is actually still flying.
She was indeed down for a little while; must have been a maintenance visit.
So disregard my above post.

But there have been some other developments.
I see that KE is down to 3 -400s.
Delta's are, of course, completely gone.
And Air India's fleet seems to be without -ESO, which hasn't flown in two months.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:41 pm

Does anyone know what registration 9M-MPR is now using at Aerotranscargo, it's flying with hex# 504E4D since 18 December 2017 but the Moldovan register isn't showing any new 747 for Aerotranscargo at all.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:00 pm

AA737-823 wrote:
AA737-823 wrote:
trex8 wrote:
Last Pratt powered CI 744 went to VCV last week B-18208 (delivered 98) . That leaves them with an active fleet of all GE powered 744s now comprising the last 4 pax 744s manufactured and 18 of the 21 freighters they took delivery of.


UPDATE:
It seems they've retired a GE powered bird, too.
First, a pilot told me (I know, I know), but second, planefinder lists just three, and third, B-18210 hasn't flown in November at all.
Of note, this was previously the aircraft gorgeously adorned with the Boeing Dreamliner livery.


Update to the update:
B18210 is actually still flying.
She was indeed down for a little while; must have been a maintenance visit.
So disregard my above post.

But there have been some other developments.
I see that KE is down to 3 -400s.
Delta's are, of course, completely gone.
And Air India's fleet seems to be without -ESO, which hasn't flown in two months.

Hmmm
This was the first of the GE powered ones. Delivered dec 2004 maybe the 2nd heavy check? Which would be good news as it suggests they may keep it at least another 5-6 years. Or they could have replaced the old lounger style biz seats with the ‘newer’ angled lie flats they put in the older and now retired Pratt 744s just 2-3 years ago? I don’t think these ‘newer’ 744s ever got the cabin refurb the older ones got but someone be correct me if I’m wrong.Or they pulled the F seats which are usually sold as J anyway.
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:02 pm

trex8 wrote:
AA737-823 wrote:
AA737-823 wrote:

UPDATE:
It seems they've retired a GE powered bird, too.
First, a pilot told me (I know, I know), but second, planefinder lists just three, and third, B-18210 hasn't flown in November at all.
Of note, this was previously the aircraft gorgeously adorned with the Boeing Dreamliner livery.


Update to the update:
B18210 is actually still flying.
She was indeed down for a little while; must have been a maintenance visit.
So disregard my above post.

But there have been some other developments.
I see that KE is down to 3 -400s.
Delta's are, of course, completely gone.
And Air India's fleet seems to be without -ESO, which hasn't flown in two months.

Hmmm
This was the first of the GE powered ones. Delivered dec 2004 maybe the 2nd heavy check? Which would be good news as it suggests they may keep it at least another 5-6 years. Or they could have replaced the old lounger style biz seats with the ‘newer’ angled lie flats they put in the older and now retired Pratt 744s just 2-3 years ago? I don’t think these ‘newer’ 744s ever got the cabin refurb the older ones got but someone be correct me if I’m wrong. Or they pulled out the F seats which are usually sold as J anyway
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:04 pm

ELAL B747-400 4X-ELE is now officially retired. It operated it last flight on 28 December 2017 LY82 BKK-TLV.
It is to be scrapped.
ELAL 4 remaining passenger B747s are scheduled to be phased out later this year 2018 and replaced by smaller. more fuel efficient B787s. One B747 freighter 4X-ELF will remain in service for cargo flights.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:51 pm

TF-AAE which was stored at Kemble was scrapped at the end of February 2018.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:52 am

Recent movement:
Boeing 747-430 26426 910 V8-ALI Government of Brunei Ferried 23 March 2018 HAM-MZJ, for sale ex D-ABVM
Boeing 747-4H6F(SCD) 28434 1371 9M-MPR Malaysia Airlines Ferried 21 March 18 CGK-KUL
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

Sat May 05, 2018 1:16 pm

I saw these two former Air China B744’s when we where taxiing for take-off.
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B-2443 still wearing full CA-cls. but with some strange tapes on the outer engine.

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I was not able to identify this B744 but it’s definitely an ex-CA B744. It’s stored in PEK for several years already now. They pushed it from they apron onto a grass strip…

Just for documentation, pics taken with my iPhone..

Note: speaking of B747's... on the left hand side you can see the Grandstar Cargo B742, which is stored in PEK since several years...
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:46 pm

I noticed the Wikipedia page has recently been updated and if right, there only 163, 747-400's left operating. I guess in a couple of years this figure will be well below 150.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_B ... _operators
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:54 pm

Breathe wrote:
I noticed the Wikipedia page has recently been updated and if right, there only 163, 747-400's left operating. I guess in a couple of years this figure will be well below 150.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_B ... _operators


You are way off—-272 400’s are active
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:18 pm

n471wn wrote:
Breathe wrote:
I noticed the Wikipedia page has recently been updated and if right, there only 163, 747-400's left operating. I guess in a couple of years this figure will be well below 150.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_B ... _operators


You are way off—-272 400’s are active

Could be you're both right. How many of those 272 are passenger and how many are freighter or freighter conversions?
The number still in passenger service looks to be somewhere around the 150 mark, then there are various national VIP transports which you might or might not count as passenger planes, and after that there are purpose built or converted freighters.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:23 pm

Andy33 wrote:
n471wn wrote:
Breathe wrote:
I noticed the Wikipedia page has recently been updated and if right, there only 163, 747-400's left operating. I guess in a couple of years this figure will be well below 150.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_B ... _operators


You are way off—-272 400’s are active

Could be you're both right. How many of those 272 are passenger and how many are freighter or freighter conversions?
The number still in passenger service looks to be somewhere around the 150 mark, then there are various national VIP transports which you might or might not count as passenger planes, and after that there are purpose built or converted freighters.

Yes, I was only referring to the 747-400 not the 747-400F :smile:
 
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Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:40 pm

Boair wrote:
Royal Air Maroc 744 CN-RGA is on his way to China for D-check so we can expect to see her for a few more years.

Royal Air Maroc has retired their sole 747-400 CN-RGA when it flew her last flight from Montreal to Casablanca.

CN-RGA at Montreal, on Saturday evening before her final flight back home:

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Can someone (a mod maybe?) update the original post?
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:04 am

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Can someone (a mod maybe?) update the original post?

We mods rarely edit posts. That puts our words into someone else's post which no one would want.

The user may request a post of their own be deleted and then repost.

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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:57 am

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Arion640 wrote:
Can someone (a mod maybe?) update the original post?

We mods rarely edit posts. That puts our words into someone else's post which no one would want.

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I’m planning to do an updated post on this at the beginning of 2019. I had originally intended to do one at the beginning of this year, but time escaped.

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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:19 pm

Qantas 744 VH-OJT has operated its last revenue flight as QF55 BNE-LAX

http://theqantassource.com/qantas-b747- ... er-flight/
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:56 am

Too bad this thread is not updated anymore...

Recently, BA retired one 747, KLM PH-BFB is also saying goodbye, and Wamos Air have sent EC-KQC to storage at Teruel. Any more info about the Wamos? Saw it on Skyliner. Too bad. It seems they're down to 5 747 now.
I wonder when people will understand:
Embraer 190 or simply E190, not ERJ-190. E-Jets are NOT ERJs!
Boeing 747-8, not Boeing 747-800. Same goes for 787.
Airbus A320, not Airbus 320.
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread

Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:23 am

leleko747 wrote:
Too bad this thread is not updated anymore...


Agreed, but we just need to dust it off and keep the pilot light on.

BA retired G-BNLP to DGX on 03 Dec 2018.
 
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Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:12 am

Update:
Boeing 747-4B5 26404 1107 HL7460 Korean Air ferried 19dec18 ICN-ANC-OSC, for part-out by Kalitta Air
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Mon Jan 28, 2019 1:06 pm

Any chance we can get a 2019 version of this thread? Happy to make a new one for this year if no one else wants too.
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Mon Jan 28, 2019 1:15 pm

Please continue discussion in 2019 thread

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