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Toronto's Mayor Embroiled In Drug Scandal Vol.2

Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:51 am

After months of speculation, accusations, denials, gangs and drug raids by Toronto Police, arrests and legal challenges launched by media outlets, today Police Chief Bill Blair confirmed that investigators have recovered a digital video file that depicts Mayor Rob Ford and is “consistent with what had been previously described in various media reports" (an apparent reference to reports of the Mayor smoking crack cocaine on a video). The chief added: “As a citizen of Toronto I’m disappointed. It’s an issue of significant public concern.”

No charges have been laid and it is unclear at this point if they will, though I suspect this is whole story could get much more interesting as additional documents are released by the court and/or the related trials get underway.

The mayor has refused to resign despite calls for him to do so by councillors and several of Toronto's daily papers.

At this point it seems hard to believe that the mayor hasn't been or isn't involved with some highly questionable individuals. The drug use is another layer on top of it all.

And the saga continues...

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/10...king-search-warrant-documents-say/
 
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Fri Nov 01, 2013 2:13 am

The Toronto City council needs to find some way to at least suspend Mayor Ford and consider procedures to remove him or force him to resign. Ford could also make the common choice in such scandals, by going to rehab. No city should not be with a functioning mayor or acting mayor and clearly Ford due to the time and distractions of the current and possible criminal charges cannot function.
 
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RE: Toronto's Mayor Embroiled In Drug Scandal Vol.2

Fri Nov 01, 2013 3:01 am

Mayor Ford might as well give himself up now. The cops are on a crusade, and they won't stop until they can get enough evidence to build a solid case for the Crown.
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RE: Toronto's Mayor Embroiled In Drug Scandal Vol.2

Fri Nov 01, 2013 3:19 am

Quoting skyservice_330 (Thread starter):
And the saga continues...

We had the same here with Marion Barry the Mayor of Washington DC.
He tried to play the victim role, but eventually ended up at the crossbar motel.

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RE: Toronto's Mayor Embroiled In Drug Scandal Vol.2

Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:08 pm

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 1):
The Toronto City council needs to find some way to at least suspend Mayor Ford and consider procedures to remove him or force him to resign.

They can't toss him from office unless he gets charged with a crime but the Toronto city council can essentially run the city without him and ignore his agenda if they so want to. He does have his allies in council but with this information coming out how much support are they going to give him isn't known yet.

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 1):
Ford could also make the common choice in such scandals, by going to rehab.

When someone decides to go to rehab they acknowledge that they have a problem, I do not think (at least publicly) that this man feels even close to having a problem.

Quoting skyservice_330 (Thread starter):
At this point it seems hard to believe that the mayor hasn't been or isn't involved with some highly questionable individuals.

He likely has been and even some of his handlers have got sacked or resigned for mentioning his associations and actions as mayor. His chief of staff was fired in May when the crack video allegations first came out.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...is-chief-of-staff/article12095116/


Furthermore to add to this mayor Ford has been accused of calling a Toronto radio show under an alias and a disguised voice.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/11...tm_hp_ref=canada&utm_hp_ref=canada
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Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:52 pm

There is also a possibility that Ford or someone close to him (AKA Lisi) may have had someone killed over the video... (there were reportedly over 400 calls between Ford and Lisi in the weeks before and after the shooting)

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...ed-police-after-shooting-1.2325459
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RE: Toronto's Mayor Embroiled In Drug Scandal Vol.2

Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:28 pm

Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 4):
When someone decides to go to rehab they acknowledge that they have a problem, I do not think (at least publicly) that this man feels even close to having a problem.

Rob Ford is definitely not going to go down quietly. His divorce with the mayor's office will be long and messy, and in my opinion there's nobody who will have a favorable opinion about Ford when it's all said and done.

Definitely a black mark on the city of Toronto, but you get what you pay (vote) for.
 
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Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:40 pm

Is there no way to impeach a mayor considering he is a politically elected figure? The guy is a tremendous disgrace to Toronto and Canadians. His actions at this point are beyond of just saying "he's a drug addict/alcoholic". The guy is a slob for one and has shown he is completely unfit to be mayor of a world class city like Toronto.
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Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:37 pm

http://torontoist.com/2011/03/ask_torontoist_ousting_a_mayor/ says:

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Despite the efforts of some city councils there are no legally-binding mechanisms to impeach, recall, or force resignation on a mayor in Ontario. Short of the mayor being charged in criminal court and sent to jail, it’s really tough to get one out of office before his or her term is up. Especially one who won 47% of the vote and has lots of support on council (and scores pretty well in opinion polls).

It goes on to say that it's hard to write a good impeachment process. Quite often it's too easy for wealthy people or groups to launch an impeachment drive to try to undo the election result. So:

Quoting Airontario (Reply 6):
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RE: Toronto's Mayor Embroiled In Drug Scandal Vol.2

Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:16 pm

So Doug Ford tried to turn the table on Chief Blair today accusing him of making up stories about his brother.

Then this : http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...ave-smoked-crack-cocaine-1.2415533

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Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:37 pm

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RE: Toronto's Mayor Embroiled In Drug Scandal Vol.2

Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:42 pm

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 1):
The Toronto City council needs to find some way to at least suspend Mayor Ford and consider procedures to remove him or force him to resign.
Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 7):
Is there no way to impeach a mayor considering he is a politically elected figure?

According to the bylaws, a mayor cannot be removed from office unless he is sent to prison. From what I understand from the wording, even if a mayor is convicted of a crime but not sent to prison, they still cannot be removed.

As it stands, it seems there will not be any charges. As the lawyers have seen saying on radio and tv, a video of someone doing an illegal drug is simply not enough evidence to charge someone with a crime.

Quoting Airontario (Reply 9):
So Doug Ford tried to turn the table on Chief Blair today accusing him of making up stories about his brother.

Doug Ford is Rob Ford's biggest enemy. He has absolutely no filter, lies way more than Rob, and everything that comes out of his buffoonish mouth gets pinned on his brother, not him. Not exactly what I would call brotherly love...

Quoting HOONS90 (Reply 10):
He just admitted it.

As he should have ages ago. Waiting only makes it hurt more when you pull off the band-aid. Smart move by blaming alcohol. I likely would have done the same.

But he has cornered himself into a position where he pretty much has to get help for his drinking at the least.

Either way, he's definitely finished when John Tory announces his candidacy   
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Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:41 pm

Ex mayor by now surely?
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Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:25 am

I didn't do it!

I didn't do it!

I didn't do it!

I didn't do it!

I didn't do it!

I didn't do it!

I didn't do it!

Actually, I did but I was wasted at the time so that's ok!!
 
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Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:13 am

I'd vote for him just because he looks caustic!
I bet he is a riot to go drinking with.  
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Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:14 am

I fail to understand why the American media is making a big fuss about this story. No matter how much coke was involved, I doubt the drug habits of a mayor, even if it's the mayor of the largest city, are going to seriously impact Canada - US relations. Is it because this guy looks like what Chris Farley would have looked in ten years is what makes this story interesting?
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RE: Toronto's Mayor Embroiled In Drug Scandal Vol.2

Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:33 pm

Quoting offloaded (Reply 12):
Ex mayor by now surely?

As mentioned, he has to either resign or be behind bars in order to lose his seat.

Although two of the city councillors will be tabling a motion to limit some of the mayor's power in council. An incredibly dangerous precedent I think.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/11...g-powers-over-executive-committee/

Quoting LittleFokker (Reply 15):
I fail to understand why the American media is making a big fuss about this story. No matter how much coke was involved, I doubt the drug habits of a mayor, even if it's the mayor of the largest city, are going to seriously impact Canada - US relations.

It's low hanging fruit. Reporters will always go after the "sexy" story. Yesterday there was a vote in the Senate to suspend three senators who are accused of inappropriate expenses on the taxpayers' dime at the federal level...yet people only want to talk about mayor with a drinking problem and an a-hole for a brother. Mind-blowing.

Interesting you bring up relations though. A tourism expert was on a Toronto radio station yesterday saying that this story actually won't hurt Toronto's reputation at all. He said something along the lines of "Americans have a sense of humour. This story is more intriguing to them than it is harmful." I also don't recall too many people back in the 90s saying "Hell no I'm not going to DC, their mayor smokes crack!"
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Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:52 am

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 16):
A tourism expert was on a Toronto radio station yesterday saying that this story actually won't hurt Toronto's reputation at all. He said something along the lines of "Americans have a sense of humour. This story is more intriguing to them than it is harmful."

He is correct. I never even heard of Rob Ford until this story. I think this guy is awesome! For no other reason than the fact that he takes great photos! Was he ever on SCTV?
The guy looks like a natural born comedian.
We need more colorful politicians like Rob Ford. We need to support him!   

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RE: Toronto's Mayor Embroiled In Drug Scandal Vol.2

Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:10 am

Man, have a look at wiki this guy's a superstar!
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RE: Toronto's Mayor Embroiled In Drug Scandal Vol.2

Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:41 am

Quoting mad99 (Reply 18):

Just read the wiki. Looks like your average incompetent kid with a big mouth, who's daddy gave him the money and assistance to get into politics.
Pretty funny though!
Have no clue how he ever got elected to a mayoral position though...maybe he was passing out "some of the good stuff" on election day?
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Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:31 pm

Part of the problem with Toronto Mayor Ford, is that he is breaking laws he is supposed to enforce. There are people of the other party who will use this to try to get him out of office so they can possibly gain the Mayor's seat in the next election or even sooner if he resigns, to the benefit of their supporters.
 
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Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:12 pm

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 16):
inappropriate expenses on the taxpayers' dime at the federal level

I actually read about that. The UK had its own expenses scandal back in 2009, with MPs claiming for such necessities as a duck house, moat cleaning, tampons (the MP was male) and hotel porn films. Your 3 are amateurs!  
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RE: Toronto's Mayor Embroiled In Drug Scandal Vol.2

Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:19 pm

Quoting offloaded (Reply 21):
I actually read about that. The UK had its own expenses scandal back in 2009, with MPs claiming for such necessities as a duck house, moat cleaning, tampons (the MP was male) and hotel porn films. Your 3 are amateurs!

Broheim, unless you're joking, North American politicians smoke CRACK. When our guys veer off the straight and narrow they don't go half-assed by plugging holes in their moats and launching a new fleets of ducks, they get high on crack, smoke the weed. I'm talking hair on fire partying like it's 1999. Your stuff is second division at best. In places like D.C., Toronto and Detroit we are setting new (and world class) standards for dereliction of duty.

I'm kinda with Superfly on this one, Ford looks like the kind of guy I'd like to hang with on a boy's night out. At an absolute minimum you are guaranteed to be entertained. I just can't say the same for some wanker throwing a duck viewing party on his refurbished moat, even if it was financed by misappropriated public funds. You guys are falling desperately behind.
 
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RE: Toronto's Mayor Embroiled In Drug Scandal Vol.2

Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:44 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 17):
We need more colorful politicians like Rob Ford. We need to support him!   

Just to add to the humour here are some funny Rob Ford video clips.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyowNPclMP8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBOf7olN0I8

Also for you Simpsons fans here is a quiz.

Who said it Rob Ford or Diamond Joe Quimby .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBOf7olN0I8
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RE: Toronto's Mayor Embroiled In Drug Scandal Vol.2

Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:08 am

Quoting wingman (Reply 22):
I'm kinda with Superfly on this one, Ford looks like the kind of guy I'd like to hang with on a boy's night out.

For sure!   

Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 23):
Just to add to the humour here are some funny Rob Ford video clips.

Thanks for those clips!
I'd like to go out drinking with him and Alex Lifeson.
If the cops mess with us, I know Alex knows how to stick it to the fuzz and Rob Ford has all the connections to get us off the hook.  
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RE: Toronto's Mayor Embroiled In Drug Scandal Vol.2

Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:03 am

Theres another video released today with him shouting and swearing threatening to muder people. Rob comes straight out and says sorry, he was absolutely wasted...

While on the one hand he is a refreshing change from all the stuffy suits with some sense of entitlement, on the other he does have a responsible job and you do wonder if he is able to do it, particularly now will all the pressure on him.

If he was running a large company, he would be fired for misrepresenting the company and giving them a bad image. To use an aviation example, would Leahy or Enders still be Airbus employees if this were them, particularly when quite likely on the Airbus dime?

Quoting wingman (Reply 22):
I'm kinda with Superfly on this one, Ford looks like the kind of guy I'd like to hang with on a boy's night out. At an absolute minimum you are guaranteed to be entertained.

Absolutely on a personal level, but when you accept jobs like mayor, then there are some restrictions that come with what such a position in what you do and dont do.

Then again, if all politicians were like this maybe there would be world peace      
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RE: Toronto's Mayor Embroiled In Drug Scandal Vol.2

Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:47 am

Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 23):

Ouch. I laughed so hard on that cameraman video tears came to my face. That dude is the reincarnation of Chris Farley.
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RE: Toronto's Mayor Embroiled In Drug Scandal Vol.2

Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:51 am

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 25):
Theres another video released today with him shouting and swearing threatening to muder people.

Now that's not cool.
I don't have a problem with a drunken tirade (I'm guilty of having a few myself) but the threats to kill someone is way over the line. Which video clip did he do this?

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 25):
on the other he does have a responsible job and you do wonder if he is able to do it

That is the problem nowadays. People expect leaders to act like Saints. That is foolish. I remember people saying this over President Clinton's 'sexual relations with that woman'. I had no problem with my President doing the fat girl.
Just as I have no problem with Obama spending his personal quiet time with Reggie Love.
I do not expect my leader to be a Saint. Just do your job. Foster job creation, cut taxes, regulations and protect our borders. Simple as that. Everything else is riding in a float at parades, commencement addresses for graduations, cutting the ribbon at the beginning of a construction site, taking photos with the young spelling bee champ.

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 25):
To use an aviation example, would Leahy or Enders still be Airbus employees if this were them, particularly when quite likely on the Airbus dime?

Up until about 25 years ago nothing would happen to them. There were many CEOs that said and done things that would be embarrassing today.
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RE: Toronto's Mayor Embroiled In Drug Scandal Vol.2

Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:08 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 27):
Now that's not cool.
I don't have a problem with a drunken tirade (I'm guilty of having a few myself) but the threats to kill someone is way over the line. Which video clip did he do this?

In this little gem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nkq-jBJtYQ (NSFW)

So...yeah.

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Fri Nov 08, 2013 4:15 pm

Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 23):
Who said it Rob Ford or Diamond Joe Quimby .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBOf7...lN0I8

Clearly I was in Druken Stooper last night when posting before .

Here is the right link to the quiz.

http://www.everythingzoomer.com/said...or-ford-mayor-quimby/#.Un0Nc9xDvh4
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RE: Toronto's Mayor Embroiled In Drug Scandal Vol.2

Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:10 pm

Quoting tu204 (Reply 19):
Have no clue how he ever got elected to a mayoral position though...maybe he was passing out "some of the good stuff" on election day?

He campaigned on a pretty solid platform. He's also done a half-decent job trying to make good on that platform. But of course that doesn't make for a good story, so you'll only hear about the other stuff from his personal life.

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 20):
Part of the problem with Toronto Mayor Ford, is that he is breaking laws he is supposed to enforce.

Which laws are those?

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 20):
There are people of the other party who will use this to try to get him out of office so they can possibly gain the Mayor's seat in the next election or even sooner if he resigns

   This is so true. Look at Councillors Adam Vaughn, Shelley Carroll, Denzil Minnan-Wong et al. They've all been getting more camera time in the past week than they have in the past year because they see this as a springboard for their campaigns. All 3 deny that they're running for Mayor, but even the casual observer can figure out they all want the top job and this is a great opportunity for them to do some politicking.

Quoting offloaded (Reply 21):
Your 3 are amateurs!

I see your ducks and hotel porn flicks, and raise you a $16 glass of orange juice and a 5-minute private car ride.  
Quoting wingman (Reply 22):
Broheim, unless you're joking, North American politicians smoke CRACK. When our guys veer off the straight and narrow they don't go half-assed by plugging holes in their moats and launching a new fleets of ducks, they get high on crack, smoke the weed. I'm talking hair on fire partying like it's 1999. Your stuff is second division at best. In places like D.C., Toronto and Detroit we are setting new (and world class) standards for dereliction of duty.

I'll take the alcoholic, crack-smoking politician that actually keeps to his platform rather than the politician that steals my money any day of the week.

Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 23):
Also for you Simpsons fans here is a quiz.

Who said it Rob Ford or Diamond Joe Quimby

10/10...the result of a misspent childhood watching The Simpsons...

Quoting Superfly (Reply 27):
but the threats to kill someone is way over the line

A lot of people up here are avoiding comment about this video at the moment because the context of it is highly speculative. One theory is that because this video was apparently filmed just before the by-elections that all the violent expressions are with regards to beating the opposition in the polls. Another theory is that the mysterious off-screen voice is actually another city councillor who was goating him on into saying those things knowing it was being filmed.

I don't know where I stand on this video, but I don't think it's worse than the alleged video that the police still have in their possession.
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Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:57 pm

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 30):
A lot of people up here are avoiding comment about this video at the moment because the context of it is highly speculative.

Some on the Internet is saying he was talking about Justin Beiber.
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Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:59 pm

That first video everyone was going around saying what a disgrace Rob Ford is but it seams like after that second one came out everyone is more subdued and genuinely hoping he gets the help that he obviously needs
 
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Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:07 pm

Quoting yfbflyer (Reply 32):

That first video everyone was going around saying what a disgrace Rob Ford is but it seams like after that second one came out everyone is more subdued and genuinely hoping he gets the help that he obviously needs

  

Has the joking and ridicule been funny? Yes.
Was much of it self-inflicted due to, apparently, a gross lack of judgement on the part of the Mayor? Yes.

However... when you look past the joking and the ridicule, there is a human element to this story that is very dark and sad.

I do not pretend to be a psychologist or counselor, but I think it is fair to say that the Mayor is not in a 'good place' in his life. This is a man with a wife and two small children who has been videotaped hanging around with drug peddlers at all hours of the day/night. This is a man who explained his crack cocaine use by blaming it on one of his 'drunken stupors.' This is a man who has been caught at public functions and at City Hall very very drunk.

The man is self-destructing and fighting demons in front of millions of people ...it is incredibly sad. You may not think he deserves your vote, but at the most primitive human level you can't help but feel sorry for him and his family.
 
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Sat Nov 09, 2013 1:25 am

Quoting skyservice_330 (Reply 33):
Has the joking and ridicule been funny? Yes.
Was much of it self-inflicted due to, apparently, a gross lack of judgement on the part of the Mayor? Yes.

However... when you look past the joking and the ridicule, there is a human element to this story that is very dark and sad.

I do not pretend to be a psychologist or counselor, but I think it is fair to say that the Mayor is not in a 'good place' in his life. This is a man with a wife and two small children who has been videotaped hanging around with drug peddlers at all hours of the day/night. This is a man who explained his crack cocaine use by blaming it on one of his 'drunken stupors.' This is a man who has been caught at public functions and at City Hall very very drunk.

The man is self-destructing and fighting demons in front of millions of people ...it is incredibly sad. You may not think he deserves your vote, but at the most primitive human level you can't help but feel sorry for him and his family.

  

I assume the Province of Ontario's health care system offers psychological and addiction help for such persons and he needs to take a leave of absence or even resign and go for it ASAP. He is the mayor of one of the largest cities in North America, his behavior is shameful and may put him into an early grave, like Chris Farley. Apparently much of his support is from the white suburban districts of the city and the business community (likely showing favoritism for government appointments, tax policy, tax deals, etc), but even they have to see that he is going to hurt their interests and call for his ouster.
 
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Sat Nov 09, 2013 8:02 pm

I can remember when CNN or most US Networks for that matter rarely mentioned Canadian content in their broadcast; I mean before Canadians really had to go the extra mile to get noticed by CNN CBS NBC FOX or ABC.

Now Rob Ford's getting almost daily reports on most US network websites plus the 6:30 evening news (CBS and ABC)...

Looks like we Canucks have turned a corner albeit for wrong reasons....

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RE: Toronto's Mayor Embroiled In Drug Scandal Vol.2

Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:30 am

It's funny how in Toronto smoking crack gets so much attention. Yet, nobody mentions the Ontario Deputy Education Minister caught and charged with child porn this summer. There was one article about him, swept under the rug and you'll never hear about it again. Rob Ford has virtually done everything he promised to do: build subways, contract out garbage (west of Yonge for now), slash councillor's budgets and additional items I cannot recall at the moment. Last time I checked, a politician who kept his promise, is an exception today. What have the previous mayors done to Toronto other than increase tax? To me what matters most, is that the mayor is doing his job. I elected him to do a job and he is doing quite well. With 1/5 people in Ontario having some sort of addiction, how many of them blend in and are functioning addicts? Clearly more than you think. No I'm not okay with our mayor doing drugs, but in the last decade this is the only guy that has done something good for my city! In turn I will try and support him back. Unfortunately with the Toronto Star and Sun playing their stories non-stop, along with all the unions Rob Ford pissed off, it will be interesting to watch how this all plays out.
 
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RE: Toronto's Mayor Embroiled In Drug Scandal Vol.2

Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:00 am

Quoting bmacleod (Reply 35):
I can remember when CNN or most US Networks for that matter rarely mentioned Canadian content in their broadcast; I mean before Canadians really had to go the extra mile to get noticed by CNN CBS NBC FOX or ABC.

Now Rob Ford's getting almost daily reports on most US network websites plus the 6:30 evening news (CBS and ABC)...

Looks like we Canucks have turned a corner albeit for wrong reasons....

You're getting a taste of how despicable the US media is, especially today. Those news outlets you mentioned are an embarrassment. It's a convenient distraction for the viewers in the US. Our government has a lot of dirty laundry that needs to be sorted out but the press doesn't want to make certain politicians look bad on our side of the boarder.
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RE: Toronto's Mayor Embroiled In Drug Scandal Vol.2

Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:13 am

Quoting bmacleod (Reply 35):
Looks like we Canucks have turned a corner albeit for wrong reasons....

I have been absolutely amazed at the fervor for this story. Why is the question, slow news elsewhere? Let the citizens and the law deal with him. He screwed up in Canada, not here.
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RE: Toronto's Mayor Embroiled In Drug Scandal Vol.2

Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:15 pm

Oh Rob Ford. He really does seem to be a pathological liar.

http://www.thegridto.com/city/politics/rob-fords-billion-dollar-lie/
 
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RE: Toronto's Mayor Embroiled In Drug Scandal Vol.2

Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:58 am

This guy reminds me so much of Chris Farley. He looks like, acts like and sounds exactly like Chris Farley.

Anyone else see it?
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RE: Toronto's Mayor Embroiled In Drug Scandal Vol.2

Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:05 am

Quoting STT757 (Reply 40):
Anyone else see it?

I think that is the problem seen from here.
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RE: Toronto's Mayor Embroiled In Drug Scandal Vol.2

Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:25 am

Quoting STT757 (Reply 40):

This guy reminds me so much of Chris Farley. He looks like, acts like and sounds exactly like Chris Farley.

Anyone else see it?

Totally, and Chris Farley was fond of the cocaine too. Can they not impeach this guy or dismiss him?
 
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RE: Toronto's Mayor Embroiled In Drug Scandal Vol.2

Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:44 am

If he ends up being forced from office, he should be taken up by Saturday Night Live.
The show has been lagging since Chris Farley's death.
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RE: Toronto's Mayor Embroiled In Drug Scandal Vol.2

Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:19 am

Rob Ford claims he has 'more than enough to eat at home'
November 14, 2013

The mayor said he would be suing his former chief of staff, Mark Towhey, former press secretary George Christopolous and former communications officer Isaac Ransom for the comments they made to police in court documents made public Wednesday.

Ford then said he never said “I want to eat your pussy” to a former female staffer, an allegation contained in the court document.

“I’m happily married, I have more than enough to eat at home,” he said, drawing gasps from the reporters gathered around his office.


From: http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/11...ack-claims-in-profane-media-scrum/

Just when you thought it couldn't get any more ridiculous...
 
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RE: Toronto's Mayor Embroiled In Drug Scandal Vol.2

Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:41 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4siKr6qY8w


Ok I laughed out loud at that. Poor Toronto having to deal with this clown  
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RE: Toronto's Mayor Embroiled In Drug Scandal Vol.2

Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:02 am

I hope he stays in the public spotlight for as long as possible (whether or not that is as mayor, I don't really care). As Jon Stewart said, this guy is a potential goldmine of comedic material.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 14):
I bet he is a riot to go drinking with.

Mhm.

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 25):

Theres another video released today with him shouting and swearing threatening to muder people.
Quoting Mir (Reply 28):
In this little gem

      I'm not sure whats more entertaining; the way he says what he says or just seeing someone of such great girth prance around in the manner that he does whilst drunk.

Quoting skyservice_330 (Reply 44):
Just when you thought it couldn't get any more ridiculous...

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RE: Toronto's Mayor Embroiled In Drug Scandal Vol.2

Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:02 pm

.....you know you've made the big time when Spirit Airlines loves you.




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RE: Toronto's Mayor Embroiled In Drug Scandal Vol.2

Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:07 pm

Quoting yyzala (Reply 36):
What have the previous mayors done to Toronto other than increase tax? To me what matters most, is that the mayor is doing his job. I elected him to do a job and he is doing quite well.

At least with Mussolini the trains ran on time.



Seriously, nothing EVER this fun comes out of Canada.

Celine Dion.

Justin Bieber.

Poutine.

NOTHING.   
 
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RE: Toronto's Mayor Embroiled In Drug Scandal Vol.2

Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:45 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 31):
Some on the Internet is saying he was talking about Justin Beiber.

If that turns out to be true, all I can say is..."FOUR MORE YEARS! FOUR MORE YEARS!"

Quoting solarflyer22 (Reply 42):
Can they not impeach this guy or dismiss him?

As has already been mentioned, there is absolutely no way council can boot him.

Hearing from a municipal lawyer on the issue, there are apparently only three ways he can be kicked out of office:

1) He goes three months without attending a council meeting;
2) He is convicted of a criminal offence and serves jail time (meaning he can be convicted but still keep his job so long as he isn't sentenced to any jail time)
3) Quorum is not met for 60 consecutive days in council. For Toronto, quorum would be 23.

1 and 2 will never happen. Number 3 is the most likely to happen at this stage, but I wouldn't count on it because it would be political suicide for many councillors to take this course. Many residents would see it as abandonment of duties, regardless of the situation with the mayor.

Technically, the province can exercise their power and put forth an emergency motion to change legislation allowing them to intervene and forcibly remove a mayor...but Kathleen Wynne has clearly been shying away from this option because of the precedent it would set.

Quoting alberchico (Reply 45):
Poor Toronto having to deal with this clown

Meh, despite what many Ford's strongest detractors are saying, it's not actually hurting the city. Toronto might be fodder for the late-night talk show hosts right now, but city operations have been completely unaffected, and tourism experts have more-or-less reached a consensus that this won't harm tourism to the city. Life goes on.

Quoting johnboy (Reply 47):
you know you've made the big time when Spirit Airlines loves you.

I hate that add, not because of the subject matter, but because of what they refer to as "Toronto area". It is nowhere near Toronto...it's not even in the same country. It would take at minimum two hours to get from IAG to downtown Toronto under normal driving conditions.

Cheap marketing in my opinion...but I do realize that's how Spirit rolls.

Quoting johnboy (Reply 48):
Seriously, nothing EVER this fun comes out of Canada.

Celine Dion.

Justin Bieber.

Poutine.

NOTHING.

Whoa now, let's not bring poutine into this. That's a national treasure we're talking about here.   
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