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kriskim wrote:ET is looking at ADD-MEL and talks have already begun for launching such service. So that might take 1-2 frames from expansion.
Boeing778X wrote:I think a few of us were totally expecting the 777-8 to be selected. ADD is hot and high.
Asiaflyer wrote:Rumor is that ET is taking a close look at A350-1000 as well.
Asiaflyer wrote:Rumor is that ET is taking a close look at A350-1000 as well.
Chief executive Tewolde Gebremariam, speaking at the Paris air show as he confirmed an agreement to take 10 more A350-900s, said the airline was still examining the -1000's capabilities.
He points out that Ethiopian is in the "unique situation" at Addis Ababa, some 2,400m above sea level. The city typically reaches its highest temperatures, up to 25C, around March-May.
"We have to see how [the -1000] performs at that altitude," says Gebremariam.
sadiqutp wrote:Unless their plan is to get rid of the leased 77Ws, this just adds more to the complexity of their fleet
Richard28 wrote:The OP states that the 4 x 77W's are all leased, so this would not seem unreasonable for them to do add A35K's when the leases expire and simplify their fleet.
kriskim wrote:ET is looking at ADD-MEL and talks have already begun for launching such service. So that might take 1-2 frames from expansion.
nadavatar64 wrote:kriskim wrote:ET is looking at ADD-MEL and talks have already begun for launching such service. So that might take 1-2 frames from expansion.
Is there a plane that is capable of performing that route nonstop?
nadavatar64 wrote:kriskim wrote:ET is looking at ADD-MEL and talks have already begun for launching such service. So that might take 1-2 frames from expansion.
Is there a plane that is capable of performing that route nonstop?
scbriml wrote:A great circle distance of just under 6,500nm? Most of their long-haul fleet should be capable, even given the challenges of ADD. Plus there's not many places to stop on the way!
StTim wrote:How does it compare to the 777's they have?
KarolXWB wrote:
In hot & high, it looks like the 77W sacrifices more payload capabilities than the A350-900.
KarelXWB wrote:We need to factor in ISA conditions, the high altitude of ADD eats into the payload capabilities of the aircraft.
scbriml wrote:Richard28 wrote:The OP states that the 4 x 77W's are all leased, so this would not seem unreasonable for them to do add A35K's when the leases expire and simplify their fleet.
It would seem to me that ET is in the process of simplifying their fleet, with the long-term aim being replacing the 767 fleet with 787s and replacing the 777 fleet with A350s.
frigatebird wrote:scbriml wrote:Richard28 wrote:The OP states that the 4 x 77W's are all leased, so this would not seem unreasonable for them to do add A35K's when the leases expire and simplify their fleet.
It would seem to me that ET is in the process of simplifying their fleet, with the long-term aim being replacing the 767 fleet with 787s and replacing the 777 fleet with A350s.
Perhaps the 77W is not best suited for ADD, but ET also has 77L's and 77F's (and just ordered 2 more).
I'm not perfectly sure the A350 can replace the 77L performance-wise, not to mention the 77F. So I presume fleet simplification by removing the 777 fleet is not as simple.
Cunard wrote:I'm surprised that ET haven't announced Manchester and Munich as new destinations and also the resumption of Amsterdam.
- Ethiopian is no ME3 nor Turkish in terms of services level and hard product, and ability to expand. Nor does it have the high yield traffic that these successful airlines have access to
berari wrote:Questions:
- Could these ten A350 frames translate to the replacement of the 6 77Ls and 4 77Ws, while we will see the additional 10 frames on order used for growth opportunities?
- Will ET still find room for regional jets especially given its substatial order for 737-8 MAXs?
- Does ET's addition of Q400s spell its intent to not go with something like the C-Series?
- What's the state of the US EXIM bank and does it have a competitor in Europe? In the past few years, there was lots of talk about the EXIM bank being shut down and airlines overseas being unable to take delivery of aircraft for their financing was to be backed by EXIM
Amexair wrote:Not to mention, as the CEO said, 80% of the African market is currently being served by Non-African Carriers, which in itself represents a huge opportunity for future growth.
Kickert wrote:The problem is that the further you get away from those planes the bigger the problems. ADD has some major issues and isn't even close to being on par with other major hubs in the area. Theoretically the new expansion should help, but the problems aren't primary to due with building, but with upkeep and systems.
dkny wrote:Their website has been showing 4 787-9 on order
https://www.ethiopianairlines.com/corpo ... -us/fleets
I wounder which North American destionation will see the 350 first.