B6JFKH81 wrote:There is a new inspection that is yielding extended down time for A320 series aircraft in heavy checks due to structural repairs required. This is probably causing an issue for G4 (and multiple other A320 series operators) during peak season. I've seen it, and it's extensive....but I cannot say more than that.
727LOVER wrote:Gee...wish I had known this a few months ago
Flightaware says there are currently 2 MD-80s headed to PIE
AAY825 from DSM
AAY829 from GSP
Accurate...or mistakes?
Flyingstump wrote:Although PIE has always been a good station for G4, I think Allegiant now really sees the value of the airport and the market (Tampa Bay). G4 is the 4th largest airline in the Tampa Bay area (TPA/PIE) ahead of United by over 180,000 pax YTD 2018. Although I know Allegiant has invested in infrastructure projects in Orlando/Sanford and Port Charlotte, this may be the first time I've heard of them investing their own capital into an airport's infrastructure.
"In addition, the airline’s parent company Allegiant Travel Company, (NASDAQ: ALGT) has plans to expand at PIE by consolidating several different facilities it currently use at the airport into one space. Allegiant’s operational consolidation at PIE is slated for the building vacated last October by United Parcel Service, which switched its operations over to Tampa International Airport. The UPS building at PIE will be torn down and Allegiant will build a new facility."
https://www.bizjournals.com/tampabay/ne ... water.html
As for potential growth, there aren't many existing G4 cities in the east or mid west that PIE doesn't fly to. They will either have to start looking out west for some untapped demand or try to work with the few existing points to develop a market for tourism to St. Petersburg (The same way they will for Port Charlotte at the resort they're building).
If LIT-SFB is doing well, LIT could probably work to PIE at 2x weekly.
A more ambitious route would be BLI to PIE. Currently, Vancouver only maintains 1 destination in Florida, and that is a season route on Westjet to Orlando. If they were to start BLI-PIE, they would face no competition at TPA, and almost no competition in marketing a non-stop route from Bellingham/Vancouver to a destination in Florida!...this is a long shot, though.
PennPal wrote:Although PGD has gone all A320, it was a pleasure to see a MD80 on the ramp there not too long ago.
And not to nick-pick, but the resort Allegiant is building is in Charlotte Harbor, not Port Charlotte.
william wrote:Flyingstump wrote:Although PIE has always been a good station for G4, I think Allegiant now really sees the value of the airport and the market (Tampa Bay). G4 is the 4th largest airline in the Tampa Bay area (TPA/PIE) ahead of United by over 180,000 pax YTD 2018. Although I know Allegiant has invested in infrastructure projects in Orlando/Sanford and Port Charlotte, this may be the first time I've heard of them investing their own capital into an airport's infrastructure.
"In addition, the airline’s parent company Allegiant Travel Company, (NASDAQ: ALGT) has plans to expand at PIE by consolidating several different facilities it currently use at the airport into one space. Allegiant’s operational consolidation at PIE is slated for the building vacated last October by United Parcel Service, which switched its operations over to Tampa International Airport. The UPS building at PIE will be torn down and Allegiant will build a new facility."
https://www.bizjournals.com/tampabay/ne ... water.html
As for potential growth, there aren't many existing G4 cities in the east or mid west that PIE doesn't fly to. They will either have to start looking out west for some untapped demand or try to work with the few existing points to develop a market for tourism to St. Petersburg (The same way they will for Port Charlotte at the resort they're building).
If LIT-SFB is doing well, LIT could probably work to PIE at 2x weekly.
A more ambitious route would be BLI to PIE. Currently, Vancouver only maintains 1 destination in Florida, and that is a season route on Westjet to Orlando. If they were to start BLI-PIE, they would face no competition at TPA, and almost no competition in marketing a non-stop route from Bellingham/Vancouver to a destination in Florida!...this is a long shot, though.
What's going in place of the UPS used to be?
timberwolf24 wrote:Take this with a grain of salt, but I heard PIE-MDW or GYY is being looked at.
Biged wrote:They should move over to TPA
deltadudejg wrote:And as a side note we have 3 total MD80s operating out of here. 410, 420, 878 were here this morning. Was told they would be here until the end of the month.
Biged wrote:They should move over to TPA
727LOVER wrote:deltadudejg wrote:And as a side note we have 3 total MD80s operating out of here. 410, 420, 878 were here this morning. Was told they would be here until the end of the month.
Y E S!!!
Thank God for this thread
rajincajun01 wrote:Biged wrote:They should move over to TPA
Why? Cheaper costs at PIE, high is their whole business model. Plenty of leverage to get airport authority to expand, compared to what would be cramped at TPA. Zero competition at the airport. Closer to the resorts they push.
deltadudejg wrote:727LOVER wrote:deltadudejg wrote:And as a side note we have 3 total MD80s operating out of here. 410, 420, 878 were here this morning. Was told they would be here until the end of the month.
Y E S!!!
Thank God for this thread
Got a newer update today that they may be here through the summer. I am curious though if they will rotate them out or keep the same 3 here.rajincajun01 wrote:Biged wrote:They should move over to TPA
Why? Cheaper costs at PIE, high is their whole business model. Plenty of leverage to get airport authority to expand, compared to what would be cramped at TPA. Zero competition at the airport. Closer to the resorts they push.
Thank you.
rajincajun01 wrote:Biged wrote:They should move over to TPA
Why? Cheaper costs at PIE, high is their whole business model. Plenty of leverage to get airport authority to expand, compared to what would be cramped at TPA. Zero competition at the airport. Closer to the resorts they push.
CIDFlyer wrote:no reason to move to TPA, PIE is much more convenient and easy to get in and out of. Not to mention closer to the beaches. Remember when they tried shifting some flights from SFB to MCO? That didnt work out and they went back to SFB. They have PIE all to themselves, much like they have SFB for Orlando.