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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:00 pm

tlecam,
Thanks for rest. tips, the Reel House sounds like the winner, ran it by the Chief Pilot ( WIFE ) an she liked the idea.
Have a great day.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:18 pm

Official DL announcement on BOS/JFK adds -

https://news.delta.com/delta-virgin-atl ... nd-uk-2020

BOS
Departs BOS at 9:00 p.m. and arrives LGW at 8:45 a.m. (next day) (daily)
Departs LGW at 10:30 a.m. and arrives BOS at 1:20 p.m. (daily)

Delta’s new Manchester service is scheduled as follows:

BOS
Departs BOS at 10:00 p.m. and arrives MAN at 9:30 a.m. (next day) (daily)
Departs MAN at 11:30 a.m. and arrives BOS at 2:00 p.m. (daily)

Starting this winter, all of Delta’s JFK and Boston-Heathrow flights will operate on its newly retrofitted Boeing 767-400 aircraft, featuring a modern interior and all four branded seat products – including a more private Delta One experience, Delta Premium Select, Delta Comfort+ and Main Cabin – to give customers greater choice when they travel. Delta's refreshed 764-400 aircraft also features the new wireless IFE system developed by Delta Flight Products with seat-back entertainment screens in every cabin and thoughtful touches like full-spectrum LED ambient lighting and memory foam cushions for added comfort. The aircraft is equipped with 33 Delta One seats in a 1-2-1 configuration, 20 Delta Premium Select seats in a 2-2-2 configuration, 28 seats in Delta Comfort+ and 156 seats in Main Cabin.

I believe GLA maybe the only GBR destination (major) remaining from BOS through DL if you also include seasonal adds: LHR, LGW, EDI (seasonal) and MAN
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:25 pm

I noticed that WN dropped some nonstop routes out of BOS in after January 5th, 2020 in today's schedule extension, including BOS-ATL, BOS-AUS, BOS-DAL, BOS-HOU, BOS-MCI, and BOS-MKE.

I am unsure if any of these cuts by WN are permanent route discontinuations, temporary route discontinuations due to the 737 MAX grounding, or seasonal route suspensions.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:28 pm

Update to WN cuts out of BOS starting in January 2020:
BOS-ATL, BOS-MCI, and BOS-MKE permanently discontinued after January 5th
BOS-HOU reduced to Sunday-only, starting on January 5th
BOS-AUS and BOS-DAL reduced to seasonal nonstop service after January 5th
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:45 pm

iyerhari wrote:
Official DL announcement on BOS/JFK adds -

https://news.delta.com/delta-virgin-atl ... nd-uk-2020

BOS
Departs BOS at 9:00 p.m. and arrives LGW at 8:45 a.m. (next day) (daily)
Departs LGW at 10:30 a.m. and arrives BOS at 1:20 p.m. (daily)

Delta’s new Manchester service is scheduled as follows:

BOS
Departs BOS at 10:00 p.m. and arrives MAN at 9:30 a.m. (next day) (daily)
Departs MAN at 11:30 a.m. and arrives BOS at 2:00 p.m. (daily)

Starting this winter, all of Delta’s JFK and Boston-Heathrow flights will operate on its newly retrofitted Boeing 767-400 aircraft, featuring a modern interior and all four branded seat products – including a more private Delta One experience, Delta Premium Select, Delta Comfort+ and Main Cabin – to give customers greater choice when they travel. Delta's refreshed 764-400 aircraft also features the new wireless IFE system developed by Delta Flight Products with seat-back entertainment screens in every cabin and thoughtful touches like full-spectrum LED ambient lighting and memory foam cushions for added comfort. The aircraft is equipped with 33 Delta One seats in a 1-2-1 configuration, 20 Delta Premium Select seats in a 2-2-2 configuration, 28 seats in Delta Comfort+ and 156 seats in Main Cabin.

I believe GLA maybe the only GBR destination (major) remaining from BOS through DL if you also include seasonal adds: LHR, LGW, EDI (seasonal) and MAN


Not surprised with the later evening times. Won't be a problem with gates, and good arrival times in the UK.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:52 pm

jplatts wrote:
Update to WN cuts out of BOS starting in January 2020:
BOS-ATL, BOS-MCI, and BOS-MKE permanently discontinued after January 5th
BOS-HOU reduced to Sunday-only, starting on January 5th
BOS-AUS and BOS-DAL reduced to seasonal nonstop service after January 5th


At least some of these were in the OAG thread a few weeks ago. Appears that WN is not going to fight DL and B6 on these routes.

I believe that DL and B6 both fly BOS-ATL and BOS-AUS.

B6 flies BOS-HOU (and United obviously covers BOS-IAH)

DL flies BOS-MCI, BOS-MKE

Neither fly BOS-DAL, but AA and B6 fly to DFW.


I do think that is a reasonable proxy for how some of the route battles will go; DL and B6 will coexist but squeeze the other competitors on routes that are weaker in Boston.

I am very interested to see waht happens with Chicago and DC. Fares will be a bloodbath.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:00 pm

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B6 flies BOS-HOU (and United obviously covers BOS-IAH)


B6 has already announced that it is planning to move BOS-HOU over to IAH starting on October 27th.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:42 pm

Question to folks who know about LHR - I was checking that VS flies from LHR to BOM, DEL, TLV etc. How easy is to connect on a DL flight from BOS-LHR on VS to BOM/DEL?

LHR is a complex airport so asking if it's worth taking VS from BOS-BOM/DEL - i have always taken BA also because my affiliation is with OW.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:53 pm

jplatts wrote:
Update to WN cuts out of BOS starting in January 2020:
BOS-ATL, BOS-MCI, and BOS-MKE permanently discontinued after January 5th
BOS-HOU reduced to Sunday-only, starting on January 5th
BOS-AUS and BOS-DAL reduced to seasonal nonstop service after January 5th


What a great day for B6 and greater day for DL. B6 may want to look very closely at MKE and MCI.
Airlines flown: A3, AA, AC, AF, AM, BA, B6, CA, CO, CX, DL, EA, EL, IB, LH, MI, MQ, NH, NW, NZ, OU, PE, QF, S4, SQ, TP, UA, US, VS, WE, WN

2019: CX BOS-HKG, WE HKG-HKT, CA HKT-PEK-EWR, B6 EWR-BOS
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:17 pm

iyerhari wrote:
Question to folks who know about LHR - I was checking that VS flies from LHR to BOM, DEL, TLV etc. How easy is to connect on a DL flight from BOS-LHR on VS to BOM/DEL?

LHR is a complex airport so asking if it's worth taking VS from BOS-BOM/DEL - i have always taken BA also because my affiliation is with OW.


DL/VS are both terminal 3. should be pretty easy to connect as long as you like to hike from one gate to another, those gates can take 15 minutes to get back to the terminal and another 15 minutes to get to the other pier. ironically depending on BA's schedule and aircraft location, VS/DL might actually be better..
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:18 pm

tlecam wrote:
jplatts wrote:
Update to WN cuts out of BOS starting in January 2020:
BOS-ATL, BOS-MCI, and BOS-MKE permanently discontinued after January 5th
BOS-HOU reduced to Sunday-only, starting on January 5th
BOS-AUS and BOS-DAL reduced to seasonal nonstop service after January 5th


At least some of these were in the OAG thread a few weeks ago. Appears that WN is not going to fight DL and B6 on these routes.

I believe that DL and B6 both fly BOS-ATL and BOS-AUS.

B6 flies BOS-HOU (and United obviously covers BOS-IAH)

DL flies BOS-MCI, BOS-MKE

Neither fly BOS-DAL, but AA and B6 fly to DFW.


I do think that is a reasonable proxy for how some of the route battles will go; DL and B6 will coexist but squeeze the other competitors on routes that are weaker in Boston.

I am very interested to see waht happens with Chicago and DC. Fares will be a bloodbath.


Couple of other adds: DL flies to CMH. DL flies to BNA.

DL and B6 fly to AUS - I believe that may the next victim for WN.

would WN even need the 5 gates that WN is supposed to have after they move to Terminal B?
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:24 pm

VS4ever wrote:
iyerhari wrote:
Question to folks who know about LHR - I was checking that VS flies from LHR to BOM, DEL, TLV etc. How easy is to connect on a DL flight from BOS-LHR on VS to BOM/DEL?

LHR is a complex airport so asking if it's worth taking VS from BOS-BOM/DEL - i have always taken BA also because my affiliation is with OW.


DL/VS are both terminal 3. should be pretty easy to connect as long as you like to hike from one gate to another, those gates can take 15 minutes to get back to the terminal and another 15 minutes to get to the other pier. ironically depending on BA's schedule and aircraft location, VS/DL might actually be better..

Thank you. The reason I ask is LHR is a complex airport - there are concourses and there are specific rules that exist so that folks do not have to go through security which is extremely elaborate.

This has been discussed in the past that DL LHR is primarily O&D which i do not think is the case. With the DL/VS JV. there is significant opportunity on onward connections to India and some of the Asian locations. Not in the same level as BA but BOM/DEL are huge markets.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:26 pm

adamh8297 wrote:
jplatts wrote:
Update to WN cuts out of BOS starting in January 2020:
BOS-ATL, BOS-MCI, and BOS-MKE permanently discontinued after January 5th
BOS-HOU reduced to Sunday-only, starting on January 5th
BOS-AUS and BOS-DAL reduced to seasonal nonstop service after January 5th


What a great day for B6 and greater day for DL. B6 may want to look very closely at MKE and MCI.


So they are only going to have BWI and MDW permanently, is that right? If so, no way are they going to need 5 gates.. i wonder if with F9 coming in whether there's an agreement for them to move across from E to cover the space?

Curious..
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:47 pm

VS4ever wrote:
adamh8297 wrote:
jplatts wrote:
Update to WN cuts out of BOS starting in January 2020:
BOS-ATL, BOS-MCI, and BOS-MKE permanently discontinued after January 5th
BOS-HOU reduced to Sunday-only, starting on January 5th
BOS-AUS and BOS-DAL reduced to seasonal nonstop service after January 5th


What a great day for B6 and greater day for DL. B6 may want to look very closely at MKE and MCI.


So they are only going to have BWI and MDW permanently, is that right? If so, no way are they going to need 5 gates.. i wonder if with F9 coming in whether there's an agreement for them to move across from E to cover the space?

Curious..


They still have

STL which is 4 daily I believe
CMH
DEN
BNA
Airlines flown: A3, AA, AC, AF, AM, BA, B6, CA, CO, CX, DL, EA, EL, IB, LH, MI, MQ, NH, NW, NZ, OU, PE, QF, S4, SQ, TP, UA, US, VS, WE, WN

2019: CX BOS-HKG, WE HKG-HKT, CA HKT-PEK-EWR, B6 EWR-BOS
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:48 pm

VS4ever wrote:
So they are only going to have BWI and MDW permanently, is that right? If so, no way are they going to need 5 gates.. i wonder if with F9 coming in whether there's an agreement for them to move across from E to cover the space?


In addition to BOS-BWI and BOS-MDW, WN will also still have nonstop service to CMH, DEN, BNA, and STL out of BOS after the January 5, 2020 cuts.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:54 pm

VS4ever wrote:
adamh8297 wrote:
jplatts wrote:
Update to WN cuts out of BOS starting in January 2020:
BOS-ATL, BOS-MCI, and BOS-MKE permanently discontinued after January 5th
BOS-HOU reduced to Sunday-only, starting on January 5th
BOS-AUS and BOS-DAL reduced to seasonal nonstop service after January 5th


What a great day for B6 and greater day for DL. B6 may want to look very closely at MKE and MCI.


So they are only going to have BWI and MDW permanently, is that right? If so, no way are they going to need 5 gates.. i wonder if with F9 coming in whether there's an agreement for them to move across from E to cover the space?

Curious..


WN will still have STL BNA CMH and DEN for a total of about 23 daily flights in January. Its in their best interest to squander gates to keep competition out.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:55 pm

jplatts wrote:
VS4ever wrote:
So they are only going to have BWI and MDW permanently, is that right? If so, no way are they going to need 5 gates.. i wonder if with F9 coming in whether there's an agreement for them to move across from E to cover the space?


In addition to BOS-BWI and BOS-MDW, WN will also still have nonstop service to CMH, DEN, BNA, and STL out of BOS after the January 5, 2020 cuts.


ok, i knew i was missing something, thanks for the correction, I still wonder even with that, if they need all 5 gates. Massport gave them that, predictated on a 51-56 Departures per day, that's going to be more like 30 or less.
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Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:25 pm

Just booked BOS-AMS-FCO roundtrip for about $1260 in J for next April. :cloudnine:
I am looking forward to a London business class airfare war also. :D
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:27 pm

RL757PVD wrote:
VS4ever wrote:
adamh8297 wrote:

What a great day for B6 and greater day for DL. B6 may want to look very closely at MKE and MCI.


So they are only going to have BWI and MDW permanently, is that right? If so, no way are they going to need 5 gates.. i wonder if with F9 coming in whether there's an agreement for them to move across from E to cover the space?

Curious..


WN will still have STL BNA CMH and DEN for a total of about 23 daily flights in January. Its in their best interest to squander gates to keep competition out.


The time is now for Southwest to launch Denver to Providence flights. Provide a nice compliment to their Denver to Boston and Denver to Hartford flights and that will cover all of the meaningful New England regions for them.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:37 pm

iyerhari wrote:
VS4ever wrote:
iyerhari wrote:
Question to folks who know about LHR - I was checking that VS flies from LHR to BOM, DEL, TLV etc. How easy is to connect on a DL flight from BOS-LHR on VS to BOM/DEL?

LHR is a complex airport so asking if it's worth taking VS from BOS-BOM/DEL - i have always taken BA also because my affiliation is with OW.


DL/VS are both terminal 3. should be pretty easy to connect as long as you like to hike from one gate to another, those gates can take 15 minutes to get back to the terminal and another 15 minutes to get to the other pier. ironically depending on BA's schedule and aircraft location, VS/DL might actually be better..

Thank you. The reason I ask is LHR is a complex airport - there are concourses and there are specific rules that exist so that folks do not have to go through security which is extremely elaborate.

This has been discussed in the past that DL LHR is primarily O&D which i do not think is the case. With the DL/VS JV. there is significant opportunity on onward connections to India and some of the Asian locations. Not in the same level as BA but BOM/DEL are huge markets.


I don't find it that complex. Same terminal connections are as easy as anywhere. When I fly thru LHR I tend to self connect. You can get really cheap fares that way. Last time I was there I flew BOS-LHR with VS and LHR-MUC with LH. Even though I had to change terminals with luggage and do the check-in again for the LH flight, the whole process was pretty straight forward and easy. However I do have a EU passport so clearing immigration is a breeze.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:44 pm

B752OS wrote:
RL757PVD wrote:
VS4ever wrote:

So they are only going to have BWI and MDW permanently, is that right? If so, no way are they going to need 5 gates.. i wonder if with F9 coming in whether there's an agreement for them to move across from E to cover the space?

Curious..


WN will still have STL BNA CMH and DEN for a total of about 23 daily flights in January. Its in their best interest to squander gates to keep competition out.


The time is now for Southwest to launch Denver to Providence flights. Provide a nice compliment to their Denver to Boston and Denver to Hartford flights and that will cover all of the meaningful New England regions for them.


They probably would have been better off with both DEN and HOU out of PVD. I can see their motivation for keeping a robust STL in keeping B6 at bay
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Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:54 am

Is Delta's MAN-BOS going to be year round or seasonal? There seems to be some trolls on wikipedia who seem to think this route is just seasonal, but Delta has made NO indication it is seasonal.
 
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Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:07 am

massachoicetts wrote:
Is Delta's MAN-BOS going to be year round or seasonal? There seems to be some trolls on wikipedia who seem to think this route is just seasonal, but Delta has made NO indication it is seasonal.


Quote from DL’s press release:

https://news.delta.com/delta-virgin-atl ... nd-uk-2020

“Delta is also set to return to Manchester with new peak-summer service from Boston effective May 21, 2020.”

Sounds like summer seasonal to me.
 
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Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:46 am

What are the odds that Delta will reestablish a pilot base at Logan? The 757 and 767-300 are treated as the same for pilot staffing purposes (pretty sure its called the 756 internally) and by my count there will be at least 12 departures daily next summer on 763 and Int'l J-class configured 757s (3X LAX, 1 SFO, 1 SLC, 1 CDG, 1 AMS, 1 DUB, 1 EDI, 1 MAN, 1 LIS). That doesn't start to count the ATL and JFK 757 flights although I think most of those are currently for the purpose of getting planes and crews into BOS for the Int'l feed.

Having a BOS base is just a selfish want for me...but it would be great. Provides a lot more schedule reliability given that the crew is local and you can count on them being there (in theory, I know....) but also makes the longevity of the BOS "hub" more secure as it just puts more assets on the ground at Logan and just that much more complex to uproot.

Speaking of bases for DL: The fight attendant base at Logan has really exploded in size. I used to feel as if I knew at least 1/2 the BOS based F/As and I certainly knew their route patterns (as I often had the same folks on Monday and Tuesday mornings to either LGA, MSP, LAX and ATL). So many new folks now.
 
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Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:13 am

N717TW wrote:
What are the odds that Delta will reestablish a pilot base at Logan? The 757 and 767-300 are treated as the same for pilot staffing purposes (pretty sure its called the 756 internally) and by my count there will be at least 12 departures daily next summer on 763 and Int'l J-class configured 757s (3X LAX, 1 SFO, 1 SLC, 1 CDG, 1 AMS, 1 DUB, 1 EDI, 1 MAN, 1 LIS). That doesn't start to count the ATL and JFK 757 flights although I think most of those are currently for the purpose of getting planes and crews into BOS for the Int'l feed.

Having a BOS base is just a selfish want for me...but it would be great. Provides a lot more schedule reliability given that the crew is local and you can count on them being there (in theory, I know....) but also makes the longevity of the BOS "hub" more secure as it just puts more assets on the ground at Logan and just that much more complex to uproot.

Speaking of bases for DL: The fight attendant base at Logan has really exploded in size. I used to feel as if I knew at least 1/2 the BOS based F/As and I certainly knew their route patterns (as I often had the same folks on Monday and Tuesday mornings to either LGA, MSP, LAX and ATL). So many new folks now.


Given that Republic just opened a crew base in BOS I would imagine a DL pilot base is in the work. A 757/767 or an A320 base would make the most sense.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:55 am

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What are the odds that Delta will reestablish a pilot base at Logan? The 757 and 767-300 are treated as the same for pilot staffing purposes (pretty sure its called the 756 internally) and by my count there will be at least 12 departures daily next summer on 763 and Int'l J-class configured 757s (3X LAX, 1 SFO, 1 SLC, 1 CDG, 1 AMS, 1 DUB, 1 EDI, 1 MAN, 1 LIS). That doesn't start to count the ATL and JFK 757 flights although I think most of those are currently for the purpose of getting planes and crews into BOS for the Int'l feed.

Having a BOS base is just a selfish want for me...but it would be great. Provides a lot more schedule reliability given that the crew is local and you can count on them being there (in theory, I know....) but also makes the longevity of the BOS "hub" more secure as it just puts more assets on the ground at Logan and just that much more complex to uproot.

Speaking of bases for DL: The fight attendant base at Logan has really exploded in size. I used to feel as if I knew at least 1/2 the BOS based F/As and I certainly knew their route patterns (as I often had the same folks on Monday and Tuesday mornings to either LGA, MSP, LAX and ATL). So many new folks now.


Your flight mix is a little off. It will be:

3X 75S LAX, 1X 764 LHR, 1X 75S LGW, 1X 76W SLC, 1X 76W CDG, 1X 76W AMS, 1X 76W DUB, 1X 75S EDI, 1X 75S
MAN

If you also want to count the non international configured 757’s that will add an additional 2X SFO and 1X LIS for a total of 14 flights next summer out of BOS. There are also flights to ATL & DTW this summer which are 757’s and will most likely be back next year so the real total is likely closer to 17X per day.

On a side note - I wonder if DL would consider adding either SNN or KEF from BOS on non-J 757’s?
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:35 pm

clrd4t8koff wrote:
N717TW wrote:
What are the odds that Delta will reestablish a pilot base at Logan? The 757 and 767-300 are treated as the same for pilot staffing purposes (pretty sure its called the 756 internally) and by my count there will be at least 12 departures daily next summer on 763 and Int'l J-class configured 757s (3X LAX, 1 SFO, 1 SLC, 1 CDG, 1 AMS, 1 DUB, 1 EDI, 1 MAN, 1 LIS). That doesn't start to count the ATL and JFK 757 flights although I think most of those are currently for the purpose of getting planes and crews into BOS for the Int'l feed.

Having a BOS base is just a selfish want for me...but it would be great. Provides a lot more schedule reliability given that the crew is local and you can count on them being there (in theory, I know....) but also makes the longevity of the BOS "hub" more secure as it just puts more assets on the ground at Logan and just that much more complex to uproot.

Speaking of bases for DL: The fight attendant base at Logan has really exploded in size. I used to feel as if I knew at least 1/2 the BOS based F/As and I certainly knew their route patterns (as I often had the same folks on Monday and Tuesday mornings to either LGA, MSP, LAX and ATL). So many new folks now.


Your flight mix is a little off. It will be:

3X 75S LAX, 1X 764 LHR, 1X 75S LGW, 1X 76W SLC, 1X 76W CDG, 1X 76W AMS, 1X 76W DUB, 1X 75S EDI, 1X 75S
MAN

If you also want to count the non international configured 757’s that will add an additional 2X SFO and 1X LIS for a total of 14 flights next summer out of BOS. There are also flights to ATL & DTW this summer which are 757’s and will most likely be back next year so the real total is likely closer to 17X per day.

On a side note - I wonder if DL would consider adding either SNN or KEF from BOS on non-J 757’s?


Thanks. I didn't count the LHR 767-400 because the 764 is a different pilot group than the 767-300...the 767-300 and 757-200 are the same pilot crew group for pay, staffing, training, scheduling and line holding purposes.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:12 am

I finally got around to downloading and editing my photos from the HiFly A380 arrival and departure into BOS this week.

However I decided to make a thread featuring content from all of the spotters who came out in force to the special A380. If I missed anyone let me know and I will add them.

So here is the Hi Fly A380 with the boston skyline in the background! Photos by myself and other Boston based spotters! https://twitter.com/theOrangetechie/status/1162552604578197505?s=20
(A359,A343/A346,A332,A319/320/321,A220-100)(B788,B772,B762,B752,B744/B748,B732/B737/B738,B717)(E190,E145)(CRJ100/200, Dash 8-200)(MD-83)
JB,UA(C5,EV,CHQ,AX),AA(EGF,ZW,AX,PT),DL(OH,YX),FL,WN,LH,BA,AF,AZ,IB,VX,CO
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:25 am

tlecam wrote:
I am very interested to see waht happens with Chicago and DC. Fares will be a bloodbath.


It's going to be tough for anyone to cut frequencies on BOS-DCA or BOS-ORD without alienating their customer base. (Except NK -- why do they fly BOS-ORD?)

That said, AA and UA have room to downgauge ORD flights. UA used to use E175s on some ORD frequencies; I'm sure they could again.

I do wonder if some of the DC downsizing has actually happened at IAD, with B6 having dropped it entirely, and UA now down to four flights a day.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:24 pm

dtremit wrote:
tlecam wrote:
I am very interested to see waht happens with Chicago and DC. Fares will be a bloodbath.


It's going to be tough for anyone to cut frequencies on BOS-DCA or BOS-ORD without alienating their customer base. (Except NK -- why do they fly BOS-ORD?)

That said, AA and UA have room to downgauge ORD flights. UA used to use E175s on some ORD frequencies; I'm sure they could again.

I do wonder if some of the DC downsizing has actually happened at IAD, with B6 having dropped it entirely, and UA now down to four flights a day.


UA appears to have Mesa operating to of today's IAD-BOS flights, one on the CRJ700, and one on an E175
(A359,A343/A346,A332,A319/320/321,A220-100)(B788,B772,B762,B752,B744/B748,B732/B737/B738,B717)(E190,E145)(CRJ100/200, Dash 8-200)(MD-83)
JB,UA(C5,EV,CHQ,AX),AA(EGF,ZW,AX,PT),DL(OH,YX),FL,WN,LH,BA,AF,AZ,IB,VX,CO
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:53 pm

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-17aug19/

While the headlines have all been about LGW and MAN on DL, apparently they snuck an equipment change on BOS-LHR from end of March on VS and now both flights are 333’s vs 789’s, uptick of about 8 seats a flight or so, but interestingly the 333’s are more premium economy heavy, upper class is the same.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:11 pm

A few notes from the weekly OAG thread.
DL BOS-DUB DEC 0>0.3[0]
*DL BOS-LGW MAY 0>0.4[0]
*DL BOS-MAN MAY 0>0.4[0
It seems as if Delta is running a 767 between December 19 and December 23 on the route.
I wonder if this could be the slow development of the route into running year-round eventually.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:01 pm

Reminder the RED ARROWS will be flying through boston harbor tomorrow and then landing at BOS
(A359,A343/A346,A332,A319/320/321,A220-100)(B788,B772,B762,B752,B744/B748,B732/B737/B738,B717)(E190,E145)(CRJ100/200, Dash 8-200)(MD-83)
JB,UA(C5,EV,CHQ,AX),AA(EGF,ZW,AX,PT),DL(OH,YX),FL,WN,LH,BA,AF,AZ,IB,VX,CO
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:20 pm

NickolayAv wrote:
A few notes from the weekly OAG thread.
DL BOS-DUB DEC 0>0.3[0]
*DL BOS-LGW MAY 0>0.4[0]
*DL BOS-MAN MAY 0>0.4[0
It seems as if Delta is running a 767 between December 19 and December 23 on the route.
I wonder if this could be the slow development of the route into running year-round eventually.


The OAG thread also had increase YOY on the following from WN along with the cuts (MKE, ATL, decrease CMH etc)
BNA to 3
DEN to 1.9
MDW to 4
BWI to 8
Airlines flown: A3, AA, AC, AF, AM, BA, B6, CA, CO, CX, DL, EA, EL, IB, LH, MI, MQ, NH, NW, NZ, OU, PE, QF, S4, SQ, TP, UA, US, VS, WE, WN

2019: CX BOS-HKG, WE HKG-HKT, CA HKT-PEK-EWR, B6 EWR-BOS

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