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Irish 7/19

Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:54 am

Please continue your discussion and to post your updates here.

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Re: Irish 7/19

Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:22 am

Limerick port village marks 30 years of highlighting aviation heritage

THE Foynes Flying Boat and Maritime Museum is gearing up to mark yet another milestone, the 30th anniversary of the opening of the museum itself.
On July 8, 1989, the late Hollywood star, Maureen O’Hara Blair officially opened the museum at a colourful ceremony attended by hundreds of overseas visitors, local supporters and dignitaries.

Fast forward thirty years almost to the day and the museum will celebrate its continued growth and development with a day of family fun, free outdoor entertainment and fireworks on Sunday, July 7 in Foynes.

“It’s hard to believe 30 years have passed,” museum director Margaret O’Shaughnessy said, recalling the big efforts that went into establishing the museum. It all started with a big idea, she said, the aim of which was to record and celebrate Foynes’ unique place in Irish aviation history and its pivotal role as a transatlantic hub from 1937 to 1945.

www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/427332/ ... itage.html
 
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Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:45 am

In my "customer facing" days, I remember with an underlying dread the line of 200 pax standing at my desk. Do you live nearby? Then go home, re-booked next available flight. Are you here on vacation and need to go home? Assess priority (...although that's completely subjective, everyone naturally for their own reasons think that they should be first). So the carrier will dictate what it sees as priority. Then it's hotel & re-book next available flight or FIM onto another carrier as appropriate. By the time this has all taken place there will only ever be a small number of passengers who will remain "inconvenienced" with no option but to stay at the airport or try to source their own accommodation for the night.

Even before EU261/2004 was introduced, airlines always refunded reasonable expense claims after the fact. Up-front compensation such as food vouchers etc. can often be even more frustrating because the chances are that your voucher will only entitle you to a sandwich/tea or coffee/small beer. That is simply not sufficient in the eyes of some and naturally they want another voucher, which means that the same 200 pax come back to some poor sods desk one more time. For that very reason, when I was running the shift, I chose to never issue comp. vouchers as they tend to cause more harm than good, because I knew that all expenses would be refunded in due course, copy receipts provided naturally. And we did retrospectively refund, and I'm proud that we did.

You cannot please all of the people all of the time etc etc. and some will always feel hard done by, but running an airline is a logistical minefield that needs to be explained in "baby language" to each and every guest as they simply do not understand why the integrity of the greater network needs to be protected. Tomorrow, unbeknown to you, some other station/flight/passenger will take the hit for the same reason that perhaps you have done today. The key however is not to hit the same flight/route any two days in a row, the disruption needs to be spread.
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Re: Irish 7/19

Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:19 pm

The inaugural Dublin - Minneapolis flight with Aer Lingus EI089 leaves this afternoon.
 
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Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:22 pm

SQ22
I realise you are a moderator and have a job to do! But without causing offence could you please leave the Irish thread alone
It is one of the best managed threads on A net and does not require any assistance
A quuck review of the site suggests you have a lot of cleaning up to do!!
 
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Re: Irish 7/19

Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:32 pm

eirflot wrote:
SQ22
I realise you are a moderator and have a job to do! But without causing offence could you please leave the Irish thread alone
It is one of the best managed threads on A net and does not require any assistance
A quuck review of the site suggests you have a lot of cleaning up to do!!


Well said eirflot.
 
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Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:16 pm

Kaitak
Could I ask you to please post your July intro - lost without it!!!!
 
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Re: Irish 7/19

Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:53 pm

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The inaugural Dublin - Minneapolis flight with Aer Lingus EI089 leaves this afternoon.


Yes! And we in Minneapolis are excited for its arrival! Though it's coming in to not so nice weather!
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Re: Irish 7/19

Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:14 pm

Hello All,

I flew DUB-TLS-DUB last week with EI. Overall an uneventful flight. Few things of note:

I used Gate 335, which brings you over to that newish boarding facility. I felt like it was a slightly fancier version of Ryanair's prefab "warren", which they built off Pier D back in 2007. What is the shelf life of this Aer Lingus facility? All flights were heading to French destinations. Is it reserved solely for France?

The flight was grand, but the aircraft wasn't the cleanest. Same on the way back. it was filthy. I understand that there is only so much the crew can do at the destination with regard to cleanliness, but that was bad!

Upon landing back in DUB, we were waiting quite a while because there was no one there to marshall the flight into stand.
 
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Re: Irish 7/19

Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:36 pm

eirflot wrote:
SQ22
I realise you are a moderator and have a job to do! But without causing offence could you please leave the Irish thread alone
It is one of the best managed threads on A net and does not require any assistance
A quuck review of the site suggests you have a lot of cleaning up to do!!


Thanks SQ22; my sincere apologies. I had to be up at 3.30am this morning for a 5.30 start at work, so I totally forgot.

Folks, give me a few minutes and I'll do some headline points for the last month. Please be kind to SQ22; he does an excellent job and the threads really should be started on the 1st of every month; I forgot this month, but SQ22 was kind enough to open our new one!

I'll be back shortly with a summary of June events ...
 
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Re: Irish 7/19

Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:40 pm

kaitak wrote:
eirflot wrote:
SQ22
I realise you are a moderator and have a job to do! But without causing offence could you please leave the Irish thread alone
It is one of the best managed threads on A net and does not require any assistance
A quuck review of the site suggests you have a lot of cleaning up to do!!


Thanks SQ22; my sincere apologies. I had to be up at 3.30am this morning for a 5.30 start at work, so I totally forgot.

Folks, give me a few minutes and I'll do some headline points for the last month. Please be kind to SQ22; he does an excellent job and the threads really should be started on the 1st of every month; I forgot this month, but SQ22 was kind enough to open our new one!

I'll be back shortly with a summary of June events ...


No worries, I thought you are either on vacation or there were some other urgencies to do.
 
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Re: Irish 7/19

Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:43 pm

A333 EI-GCF never comes through Boston. What prevents it from being part of the normal rotation of A333s that do?
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Re: Irish 7/19

Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:57 pm

KIRFlyer wrote:
Hello All,

I flew DUB-TLS-DUB last week with EI. Overall an uneventful flight. Few things of note:

I used Gate 335, which brings you over to that newish boarding facility. I felt like it was a slightly fancier version of Ryanair's prefab "warren", which they built off Pier D back in 2007. What is the shelf life of this Aer Lingus facility? All flights were heading to French destinations. Is it reserved solely for France?

The flight was grand, but the aircraft wasn't the cleanest. Same on the way back. it was filthy. I understand that there is only so much the crew can do at the destination with regard to cleanliness, but that was bad!

Upon landing back in DUB, we were waiting quite a while because there was no one there to marshall the flight into stand.


5 years but probably a little longer or until new pier F is built behind it. Used for different routes but TLS operated when most of the daily French ones do and a lot of wide-bodies at 400 gates. Unlikely to see a LHR service there but everything else is possible.
 
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Re: Irish 7/19

Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:02 pm

EK77WNH wrote:
A333 EI-GCF never comes through Boston. What prevents it from being part of the normal rotation of A333s that do?


I suspect it's because it is a higher gross weight acft with extra crew accommodation for relief crew, which means it's more suited to west coast flights.

Here's a summary of June - quite a few things happening!

- More EI A32Q (A321NeoLR) routes announced, including SNN-BOS, JFK and LHR
- Norwegian cancels SNN/ORK to US flights, due to ongoing Max issues
- Pres. Trump visits Shannon
- Pax numbers up 7.4% for Q1.
- 2 new 789 operators started in June: AA to DFW and WS to YYC
- More passport e-readers to be installed at DUB to combat queuing complaints
- CX has 80,000 pax on DUB route in first year.
- New dedicated immigration facility to open at DUB
- Govt grants €5m to Waterford airport for runway extension, against civil service advice
- DAA stops expansion work due to row over reduced pax charges
- 2 killed in light aircraft crash in Kildare
- Ceremony to mark 100th anniversary of Alcock & Brown flight
- IAG orders six A321XLRs for EI (and more for IB, too). New aircraft's range will cover pretty much all of the US and Canada.
- ASL orders twenty 737-800 converted freighters
- Hainan appears to have lost route authority for DUB to PEK; apparently, future of route depends on negotiations ongoing with Scottish government.
- €350m loan for DUB to fund upgrades (primarily for security?)
 
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Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:07 pm

EK77WNH wrote:
A333 EI-GCF never comes through Boston. What prevents it from being part of the normal rotation of A333s that do?


Its one of two A333 with crew rest that operates SFO and it just comes down to schedules. Last in Boston 15 March.
 
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Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:27 pm

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Hello All,

All flights were heading to French destinations. Is it reserved solely for France?

.


A lot of the time in the late evening arrivals ACE LPA and TFS get shunted there also.
 
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Re: Irish 7/19

Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:49 pm

24,000 passengers have used Dublin - Beijing route in first year.

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-0 ... 182795.htm

That seems to be a load factor in the region of 50% to 55% ?
 
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Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:43 pm

Interesting stats from Aer Lingus regarding today's inaugural to Minneapolis.

"On today’s inaugural flight out of Dublin, 45% of guests had commenced their journey in the UK and Europe. London airports were the most popular starting point followed by Manchester, Edinburgh and Berlin. Equally on the inaugural eastbound flight out of Minneapolis-Saint Paul, 39% of travelling guests will connect onwards at Dublin Airport, with the highest number travelling onwards to London."

https://blog.aerlingus.com/minneapolis- ... es-flight/

Strong connections appear vital to the long term viability of these new routes, Minneapolis is also a new destination in the IAG network.
 
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Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:08 pm

shamrock350 wrote:
Interesting stats from Aer Lingus regarding today's inaugural to Minneapolis.

"On today’s inaugural flight out of Dublin, 45% of guests had commenced their journey in the UK and Europe. London airports were the most popular starting point followed by Manchester, Edinburgh and Berlin. Equally on the inaugural eastbound flight out of Minneapolis-Saint Paul, 39% of travelling guests will connect onwards at Dublin Airport, with the highest number travelling onwards to London."

https://blog.aerlingus.com/minneapolis- ... es-flight/

Strong connections appear vital to the long term viability of these new routes, Minneapolis is also a new destination in the IAG network.




Here is a story from the local Minneapolis paper:

Everything you need to know about Aer Lingus, MSP Airport's new international carrier
The flag carrier of Ireland will offer direct flights between the Twin Cities and Dublin.

http://www.startribune.com/everything-y ... 512061162/
 
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Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:32 pm

shamrock350 wrote:
https://blog.aerlingus.com/minneapolis- ... es-flight/

Strong connections appear vital to the long term viability of these new routes, Minneapolis is also a new destination in the IAG network.


I really like the vintage-style poster they have created for MSP. They could do one for every city in the network and have them as a gallery around Irish cities, in the lounges and at DUB. I do have a soft-spot for these posters though. BA have a great collection displayed in various lounges, the routings of old are fascinating.

https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-imper ... 40915.html
 
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Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:02 pm

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Interesting stats from Aer Lingus regarding today's inaugural to Minneapolis.

Strong connections appear vital to the long term viability of these new routes


Connections are vital for the majority of even the not so new ones. Without connections the route map would be half of what it is now.
 
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Re: Irish 7/19

Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:16 am

kaitak wrote:
EK77WNH wrote:
A333 EI-GCF never comes through Boston. What prevents it from being part of the normal rotation of A333s that do?


I suspect it's because it is a higher gross weight acft with extra crew accommodation for relief crew, which means it's more suited to west coast flights.

Here's a summary of June - quite a few things happening!

- More EI A32Q (A321NeoLR) routes announced, including SNN-BOS, JFK and LHR
- Norwegian cancels SNN/ORK to US flights, due to ongoing Max issues
- Pres. Trump visits Shannon
- Pax numbers up 7.4% for Q1.
- 2 new 789 operators started in June: AA to DFW and WS to YYC
- More passport e-readers to be installed at DUB to combat queuing complaints
- CX has 80,000 pax on DUB route in first year.
- New dedicated immigration facility to open at DUB
- Govt grants €5m to Waterford airport for runway extension, against civil service advice
- DAA stops expansion work due to row over reduced pax charges
- 2 killed in light aircraft crash in Kildare
- Ceremony to mark 100th anniversary of Alcock & Brown flight
- IAG orders six A321XLRs for EI (and more for IB, too). New aircraft's range will cover pretty much all of the US and Canada.
- ASL orders twenty 737-800 converted freighters
- Hainan appears to have lost route authority for DUB to PEK; apparently, future of route depends on negotiations ongoing with Scottish government.
- €350m loan for DUB to fund upgrades (primarily for security?)


So if I understand correctly EI will have 7 A321LR and 6 A321XLR in it's fleet eventually. I assume all the 757's will go. Will the 3 A321's currently in use for non T/A routes also go? I see that EI also has some A330's coming in. Does that mean the older A332's will be moved along? Ending up with something like 13 A321's and 10 A330's?
 
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Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:43 am

Air Canada Rouge have finished up at DUB. All 3 flights from Dublin to Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver are now operated by the mainline A330. (Today saw a B789 operate YYZ-DUB though).
 
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Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:40 am

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kaitak wrote:
So if I understand correctly EI will have 7 A321LR and 6 A321XLR in it's fleet eventually. I assume all the 757's will go. Will the 3 A321's currently in use for non T/A routes also go? I see that EI also has some A330's coming in. Does that mean the older A332's will be moved along? Ending up with something like 13 A321's and 10 A330's?


A total of 8 A321LR are on order plus a further 6 A321XLR giving a total of 14 overall.

There are currently 13 A330s in operation, an additional 2 A333s are due at the end of the year, one of which is expected to be used as a replacement for an A332 which would give us a total of 14 overall. The wide body fleet is subject to the most change, rumours of an additional two younger second hand A330s has been doing the rounds recently to facilitate a more rapid retirement plan for the A332s but this hasn't be confirmed.

The first three 757s will be gone before the start of the summer schedule next year, one will linger on until later in the year.

The short haul A321s are all configured with 212 seats and operate on popular sun routes, while the A321LR's will operate in Europe, with just 184 seats, they won't be anywhere near like for like replacements for these older birds. Aer Lingus will probably hold on to the them until a short haul fleet renewal programme is decided.

Back to long haul, best guess based on confirmed orders for next year is;

14 A330s
- 4 200s (current 5)
- 10 300s (current 8)

8 A321LR
- 4 in 2019
- 4 in 2020

On order;

6 A321LR
- 2023 onwards

The plan is to have 30 long haul aircraft by 2023. Well on course to achieve that base on current fleet, confirmed orders and rumoured fleet additions.
 
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Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:12 am

What’s the story with the AC YUL service? I haven’t seen it on Flightradar24 at all and I can’t seem to find a schedule on the Air Canada website?
 
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Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:56 am

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What’s the story with the AC YUL service? I haven’t seen it on Flightradar24 at all and I can’t seem to find a schedule on the Air Canada website?


Google AC818 and you will find it.
 
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Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:14 am

Ryanair group's passenger numbers up 13% in June

Ryanair has reported higher passenger numbers and steady load factors for June.

The airline said it carried a total of 13.6 million passengers last month, up 8% on the same time last year.

www.rte.ie/news/business/2019/0702/1059 ... r-figures/

--

Shannon left out in cold in airport fund scheme

A GOVERNMENT decision to omit Shannon from a €14 million Government funding scheme for regional airports has been severely criticised by a local business leader.

Shannon Chamber chief executive Helen Downes said that if the government is serious about regional development, then Shannon should be getting supports in line with other regional airports.

www.limerickpost.ie/2019/07/01/shannon- ... nd-scheme/
 
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Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:49 am

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Air Canada Rouge have finished up at DUB. All 3 flights from Dublin to Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver are now operated by the mainline A330. (Today saw a B789 operate YYZ-DUB though).

Saturday’s flight was a 777-300, didn’t depart until 2300 for crew rest.
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Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:40 am

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shamrock321 wrote:
What’s the story with the AC YUL service? I haven’t seen it on Flightradar24 at all and I can’t seem to find a schedule on the Air Canada website?


Google AC818 and you will find it.



So the service only resumes tonight?
 
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Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:00 am

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The inaugural Dublin - Minneapolis flight with Aer Lingus EI089 leaves this afternoon.


How is Aer Lingus managing to operate this without additional frames delivered yet? I thought all the long haul fleet was fully tasked.
 
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Tue Jul 02, 2019 11:10 am

Clydenairways wrote:
Skyblue39 wrote:
The inaugural Dublin - Minneapolis flight with Aer Lingus EI089 leaves this afternoon.


How is Aer Lingus managing to operate this without additional frames delivered yet? I thought all the long haul fleet was fully tasked.


They announced 6 weeks of frequency reductions (across 4 routes) plus cancellation of YUL when A321LR delays were confirmed. MSP is operating x5 instead of x7 weekly until next month.
 
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Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:29 pm

Air Canada will be operating 789s on the YyZ-DUB route from next March, in place of A330s. (Source:Airline Route)
 
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Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:34 pm

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Air Canada will be operating 789s on the YyZ-DUB route from next March, in place of A330s. (Source:Airline Route)


Huge improvement in quality especially up front versus the current A330 (though I know these will be getting an upgrade). 8 airlines operating 787s to DUB next summer (assuming HU are still around)
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Re: Irish 7/19

Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:55 pm

shamrock350 wrote:
EIBoston wrote:
kaitak wrote:
So if I understand correctly EI will have 7 A321LR and 6 A321XLR in it's fleet eventually. I assume all the 757's will go. Will the 3 A321's currently in use for non T/A routes also go? I see that EI also has some A330's coming in. Does that mean the older A332's will be moved along? Ending up with something like 13 A321's and 10 A330's?


A total of 8 A321LR are on order plus a further 6 A321XLR giving a total of 14 overall.

There are currently 13 A330s in operation, an additional 2 A333s are due at the end of the year, one of which is expected to be used as a replacement for an A332 which would give us a total of 14 overall. The wide body fleet is subject to the most change, rumours of an additional two younger second hand A330s has been doing the rounds recently to facilitate a more rapid retirement plan for the A332s but this hasn't be confirmed.

The first three 757s will be gone before the start of the summer schedule next year, one will linger on until later in the year.

The short haul A321s are all configured with 212 seats and operate on popular sun routes, while the A321LR's will operate in Europe, with just 184 seats, they won't be anywhere near like for like replacements for these older birds. Aer Lingus will probably hold on to the them until a short haul fleet renewal programme is decided.

Back to long haul, best guess based on confirmed orders for next year is;

14 A330s
- 4 200s (current 5)
- 10 300s (current 8)

8 A321LR
- 4 in 2019
- 4 in 2020

On order;

6 A321LR
- 2023 onwards

The plan is to have 30 long haul aircraft by 2023. Well on course to achieve that base on current fleet, confirmed orders and rumoured fleet additions.

Thank you! 30 LH planes is a big change from single figures in the 90's.
 
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Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:34 pm

I see this evening’s EI277 (BHX-DUB) is being operated by a WX AR8. Are they no longer exclusively operating DUB-LCY?
 
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Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:39 pm

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I see this evening’s EI277 (BHX-DUB) is being operated by a WX AR8. Are they no longer exclusively operating DUB-LCY?

Read on another aviation forum a few weeks ago that WX would be operating this flight so yes it’s not just LCY they’re operating for EI.
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Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:39 pm

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I see this evening’s EI277 (BHX-DUB) is being operated by a WX AR8. Are they no longer exclusively operating DUB-LCY?


They've been doing a daily BHX rotation since the start of Summer I think. It's independent of the LCY operation.
 
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Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:27 pm

Interesting. I would've thought there may be backlash from the unions about an arrangement like this (outsourcing EI ops to WX/scope clause) but all seems quiet on that front.
 
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Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:45 pm

AmricanShamrok wrote:
Interesting. I would've thought there may be backlash from the unions about an arrangement like this (outsourcing EI ops to WX/scope clause) but all seems quiet on that front.


They are probally been kept on side because it's not a reduction in mainline ops overall and only for 3 months.
 
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Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:46 am

Eirules wrote:
kaitak wrote:
Air Canada will be operating 789s on the YyZ-DUB route from next March, in place of A330s. (Source:Airline Route)


Huge improvement in quality especially up front versus the current A330 (though I know these will be getting an upgrade). 8 airlines operating 787s to DUB next summer (assuming HU are still around)


A330 is better if flying Y
 
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Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:56 am

Lake District airport to finally reopen this week

After missing two previous planned re-openings, Carlisle airport is now in “tip-top order” for passenger services to begin again on 4 July 2019.

The Scottish airline Loganair will serve Belfast, Dublin and Southend from the Cumbrian airport.

Initially, though, Carlisle Lake District airport will be a five-day a week operation, with no flights on Tuesdays and Wednesdays.

But unlike other UK airports, arriving passengers will be offered a free minibus ride to the city centre. The complimentary transfer is also available to departing travellers.

www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-a ... 84491.html
 
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Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:02 am

I see the first scheduled Lufthansa A340 flight into Dublin today has parked on the 400 gates at the furthest possible gate from the terminal. Is it really necessary to make 300 passengers walk that far?
 
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Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:09 am

@EI321

Do you mean to 100 gates? Lufthansa is based out of Terminal 1.
 
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Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:41 pm

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Do you mean to 100 gates? Lufthansa is based out of Terminal 1.

FlightRadar24 showing it parked at Gate 112 (the very end of Pier 1; quite a trek from Pier 3). Could possibly not be accommodated at Pier 3 due to the wingspan of the 343.
 
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Re: Irish 7/19

Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:11 pm

AmricanShamrok wrote:
EI121 wrote:
@EI321

Do you mean to 100 gates? Lufthansa is based out of Terminal 1.

FlightRadar24 showing it parked at Gate 112 (the very end of Pier 1; quite a trek from Pier 3). Could possibly not be accommodated at Pier 3 due to the wingspan of the 343.


Lufthansa are becoming increasingly common on the 1xx gates, as the 3xx gates are at a premium. It's even worse when using a widebody at lunchtime as gates are fewer and normally full with AC, EI, CX and Middle East flights
 
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Re: Irish 7/19

Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:31 pm

Sorry yes I meant the 100 gates (pier D).

I assumed it's because the 300 gates are already full of long haul widebodies in the late morning but I dont see why they couldn't put the A340 on one of the 100 gates that's closest to the terminal. I think that's what they usually do with Air Transat and Icelandair.

On a separate note, the overcrowding in the 300 gates seems to be a real issue when it's full of widebodies in the morning-afternoon, people standing everywhere and big queues for shops etc. Not a good look. The sooner they redevelop that pier the better.
 
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Re: Irish 7/19

Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:41 pm

AmricanShamrok wrote:
EI121 wrote:
@EI321

Do you mean to 100 gates? Lufthansa is based out of Terminal 1.

FlightRadar24 showing it parked at Gate 112 (the very end of Pier 1; quite a trek from Pier 3). Could possibly not be accommodated at Pier 3 due to the wingspan of the 343.

Just found out the 343 wingspan is the same as the 333 (which regularly use the 300 gates) so disregard that comment.
 
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Re: Irish 7/19

Wed Jul 03, 2019 3:59 pm

Does anyone know if EI actually intends to re-launch YUL for S20?
 
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Re: Irish 7/19

Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:04 pm

AmricanShamrok wrote:
AmricanShamrok wrote:
EI121 wrote:
@EI321

Do you mean to 100 gates? Lufthansa is based out of Terminal 1.

FlightRadar24 showing it parked at Gate 112 (the very end of Pier 1; quite a trek from Pier 3). Could possibly not be accommodated at Pier 3 due to the wingspan of the 343.

Just found out the 343 wingspan is the same as the 333 (which regularly use the 300 gates) so disregard that comment.

There was a CX A350, AC330, EIA330 and a few narrow bodies at 300s at the time. Parking at 112 ensured maximum stand usage at the time.

If the A340 was regular and planned in advance chances are it would have been assigned 300 gates.
 
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Re: Irish 7/19

Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:20 pm

JAmie2k9 wrote:
If the A340 was regular and planned in advance chances are it would have been assigned 300 gates.


It may not be regular, but it was certainly planned in advance. LH announced a few months back that the 343 would be in once a week.

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