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Turkish Aviation August 2019

Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:00 pm

Hello there Turkish Aviation fans,

My wait will be finally over after a dozen years or so and I will be on the first TK 787 flight out of the USA next week. I am very excited. I have seen and read almost all reviews of the new J class but still trying to keep an open mind. I will let you know about my experience when I have some time after the long travel EWR-IAD-IST-DLM.



-So, besides DPS and AMS, TK starts 789 ops to IAD, MEX-CUN this month.
-I am not sure how TK is going to deal with this loss of revenue and public trust due to MAX situation. They transferred some AnadoluJet planes to the mainline, A321NEO and 789 arrivals are helping and they are cancelling some flights and holding back on expansion during this very busy summer season. First we heard that MAX will be grounded till November and even into 2020. I hope they have a fix for this by next June!!!! Boeing has their hands full with the 777X and 797 and now they have to come up with a replacement for 737??
-2 more 789s to join TK this year and they might join by the end of this month or early September. So far, TC-LLA, TC-LLB and TC-LLC all travelled to DPS. So, I imagine I could get any one of the 4 first frames for my flight.
-It is so unprofessional for TK to have such a fanfare for the naming its first 789 and not to follow up for the rest. First a public poll to choose a name. Then going to something totally different and naming the plane “Macka” for some domestic agenda. And no follow up on naming the rest of the type. Besides the first 789, all other 789s are flying with no name. Over 50 planes AFAIK, have no names in the TK fleet. What is the naming procedure? Is there a naming procedure? I really liked the naming of the Cargo fleet in the past with river names, why can’t they have any consistency with this? Just look at Pegasus, naming planes after their employees new born's names, great idea. Or KLM, I really liked them giving international names to their larger planes. If TK is a “Globally Yours” brand, they should be able name their planes “Globally”.
I would love to volunteer to form a committee for the naming of TK jets for decades to come, seriously.
-TK's BKK flights go from 2 to 3 Daily with all A333 and Phuket goes daily in September.
-Skyteam alliance lounge to open by end of Q3 at IST.
-Atlasglobal gets its 3rd 330.
-TAV opening a TK lounge at JFK. This has been in the news for couple of years but let’s see when it finally happens.
-SAW june pax numbers up 31%. That is incredible. Let's see if the trend continues in July, which I think it will. On the other hand, IST is also doing good even with the lower domestic pax numbers. In June, IST had more pax that Ataturk had in June’18 and again the trend might continue for July, we will see in a few days.
-Latest news; "Alacati, Cesme Airport" contract annulled, there will be a golf resort in that land instead.
-TK crew will start using the new uniforms starting on August 6th. It has been a very long time since TK had new uniforms, I hope the crews and the public will like them. I like them, hopefully more gray than red ones in the cabin. I always found the Austrian and Aeroflot red uniforms to be a bit too much.

Please continue with your views, news, rumors, photos and good old sense of humor. And I can’t thank each and every one of you to keep these threads civil and void of personal attacks or political nonsense.
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.

You can find last months thread here: Turkish Aviation July 2019
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation August 2019

Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:30 pm

Just saw a post on aeronews that TK is interested in a 20% stake of Virgin Australia?
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Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:53 pm

TK787 wrote:
Hello there Turkish Aviation fans,

My wait will be finally over after a dozen years or so and I will be on the first TK 787 flight out of the USA next week. I am very excited. I have seen and read almost all reviews of the new J class but still trying to keep an open mind.


Thanks for a new thread .Will be insteresting to hear your views on it.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation August 2019

Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:02 am

Mystic wrote:
Just saw a post on aeronews that TK is interested in a 20% stake of Virgin Australia?


Yes there are several stories floating around

Here is the dedicated thread for TK's interest in acquiring HNA's 20% stake in VA

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1428291
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Re: Turkish Aviation August 2019

Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:34 am

Starting from September, Ethiopian will be increasing IST once again with the addition of a 7th weekly flight.

If I am not wrong, within a year they went from 3 to 7 weekly frequencies. Not bad. Is there any other foreign airline that has thus rapidly expanded in IST in recent times?

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -sep-2019/
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation August 2019

Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:53 am

Sin will be increased to 11 weekly in H2 2020 after kul and iad
Any news about 350 routes beside lhr and dxb
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation August 2019

Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:39 pm

Sichuan Airlines introduces A350 on IST route today

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Re: Turkish Aviation August 2019

Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:14 am

Does anyone else believe TK should clean up its longhaul flight numbers? Below is a list of a selection of longhaul flights, some of which are seasonal, some of which have been announced but are not yet operating. I have left out a large chunk of medium haul flights in the 700-range of flight numbers, just to get a general picture. The numbering jumps all over the place:

001-002 JFK
003-004 JFK
005-006 ORD
007-008 IAD
009-010 LAX
011-012 JFK

015-016 GRU EZE
017-018 YYZ

020-021 PEK
022-023 SIN
024-025 TPE
026-027 PVG

31-32 ATL
33-34 IAH
35-36 YUL

38-39 JNB MPM
42-43 JNB DUR
44-45 CPT

50-51 NRT
52-53 NRT
54-55 SIN
56-57 CGK
58-59 BKK
60-61 KUL
62-63 KUL
64-65 BKK
66-67 DPS
68-69 BKK
70-71 HKG
72-73 CAN

77-78 MIA
79-80 SFO
81-82 BOS

84-85 MNL
86-87 KIX
88-89 ICN
90-81 ICN

162-163 SGN
164-165 HAN

172-173 HKT

181 MEX CUN
183-184 HAV CCS

187-188 IAD

223-224 CCS

800 BOG PTY
 
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Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:17 am

I always wondered how they got from 001 to 1958.. never made sense to me. Their administrative department needs to do some work.
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Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:41 am

Seems that TK will expand in Asia with new planes in H2’2020, so far nothing has been announded for US and latam, nothing has been announced for A359 as well (exc dxb and lhr)

resumption of Osaka
Frequency increase of : Tokyo, SIN,KUL, And Vietnam
Any rumor or guess or info about rest
 
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Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:02 am

ist2014 wrote:
Seems that TK will expand in Asia with new planes in H2’2020, so far nothing has been announded for US and latam, nothing has been announced for A359 as well (exc dxb and lhr)

resumption of Osaka
Frequency increase of : Tokyo, SIN,KUL, And Vietnam
Any rumor or guess or info about rest


Wasn't IAD increased from 7 to 11? Seems like that's the only US destination so far.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation August 2019

Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:35 pm

Not sure what happened there, but TC-LLA flew IST-ESB-IST yesterday morning and sat at IST for 25.5hrs before departing to DPS.
 
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Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:59 pm

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Not sure what happened there, but TC-LLA flew IST-ESB-IST yesterday morning and sat at IST for 25.5hrs before departing to DPS.


There were two AnadoluJet (TK's subsidiary type branch) from AYT to ESB and TC-LLD (not LLA!) collected the pax. of two flights and brought them to ES. This flight has been a TK-7000 type flight number. After that it flew ESB-IST (without pax) under a TK-6000 type flight number (a typical ferry flight).

We may see more examples like this one (not necessarily limite to 789s) this summer bcz. of the shortage in TK's narrow bodies due to the grounding of 12 737MAXs in Istanbul plus a second dozen waiting idle in Seattle!
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Re: Turkish Aviation August 2019

Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:31 pm

mafaky wrote:

There were two AnadoluJet (TK's subsidiary type branch) from AYT to ESB and TC-LLD (not LLA!) collected the pax. of two flights and brought them to ES. This flight has been a TK-7000 type flight number.

I saw that one, but this one is different.
TC-LLA performed TK2122 and TK2123 IST-ESB roundtrip yesterday and sat on the tarmac for 25 hours before going to Bali after midnight.
 
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Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:39 am

TK787 wrote:
mafaky wrote:

There were two AnadoluJet (TK's subsidiary type branch) from AYT to ESB and TC-LLD (not LLA!) collected the pax. of two flights and brought them to ES. This flight has been a TK-7000 type flight number.

I saw that one, but this one is different.
TC-LLA performed TK2122 and TK2123 IST-ESB roundtrip yesterday and sat on the tarmac for 25 hours before going to Bali after midnight.


Strange, but can happen. Maybe some minor maintenance or some rectification inside the cabin?

Should we start betting on which TC-LL(?) you will be flying IAD-IST? :roll:
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Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:58 am

mafaky wrote:
TK787 wrote:
mafaky wrote:

There were two AnadoluJet (TK's subsidiary type branch) from AYT to ESB and TC-LLD (not LLA!) collected the pax. of two flights and brought them to ES. This flight has been a TK-7000 type flight number.

I saw that one, but this one is different.
TC-LLA performed TK2122 and TK2123 IST-ESB roundtrip yesterday and sat on the tarmac for 25 hours before going to Bali after midnight.


Strange, but can happen. Maybe some minor maintenance or some rectification inside the cabin?

Should we start betting on which TC-LL(?) you will be flying IAD-IST? :roll:


I'm going to place my bet on LLA!

Interesting to see TK's long haul expansion. Once the MAX is back flying we should be seeing some short haul expansion too according to TK.

This is totally random but I forgot to say, when I was in Barcelona in April, I saw huge TK Bali posters in many different metro stations. Good to see TK taking advertising seriously.
 
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Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:06 am

According to routes online TK is expanding SIN flight to 11 weekly by July 2020 the new TK 22/23 will also see the 787 https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... urkish-air
 
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Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:10 am

TK will be sponsoring Argentinian football club River Plate. http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkis ... ate-145485 starting this year It's been a while since TK last sponsored Football club.
 
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Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:44 pm

How does TK feel about their IST-BOS-IST services? Is it profitable any chance of seeing additional flights or the 77W on the route?
 
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Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:58 pm

AirbusA343 wrote:
mafaky wrote:
TK787 wrote:
I saw that one, but this one is different.
TC-LLA performed TK2122 and TK2123 IST-ESB roundtrip yesterday and sat on the tarmac for 25 hours before going to Bali after midnight.


Strange, but can happen. Maybe some minor maintenance or some rectification inside the cabin?

Should we start betting on which TC-LL(?) you will be flying IAD-IST? :roll:



I booked IAD-IST(ISL) for Sep 5 (TK8) and back for Sep 22 (TK7) via Orbiz a couple of weeks ago. The site said that it would be A359 both ways.
 
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Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:11 pm

-IST-BOS will see the 787-900. IMHO, it might see frequency increases rather than 77Ws in the future.
-Orbitz is wrong. TK site says 789 both ways.
 
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Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:49 am

How is KK doing financially? I remember they were struggling recently.
 
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Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:37 am

TC-JJM, a TK 77W collided with a bird at IST causing damage on the left wing a few days ago. It's off service being repaired. It was meant to go to Toronto that day but was replaced by TC-LJB giving rise to a delay of well over three hours.

https://ahvalnews.com/istanbul-airport/turkish-airlines-plane-damaged-after-colliding-birds-istanbul-airport
 
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Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:45 am

Happy August to all and thanks again to TK787 for another thread, I used ISL twice in 10 days for outbound and inbound, leaving to JMK it was a sight to be seen as there were 3 other planes leaving for JMK from ISL, on a Friday evening pretty impressive, couldn't see much in the dark other than the 737 Max's stored by the GA terminal, I came back yesterday to ISL and was much busier on the cargo side, few TK cargo planes being loaded as well as 2 Hong Kong Air Cargo 330's and finally a Kalitta 747 freighter active. GA terminal wasn't as busy this time. I think I recorded the landing I will upload from tapatalk as I can't figure it out for the life of me on here:)
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Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:07 am

How many MAX are actually stored at ISL? I thought most of them have been ferried to IST.
Mykonos seems to be the new hotspot in recent times. KK is flying there 3x a week. I'm actually quite surprised that PC (or even TK) didn't consider it yet.
 
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Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:01 pm

Yes folks, you've heard it here first :)
All 4 TK 787-900s flew at least one IST-AYT-IST today, August5th, 2019. Why not :)
 
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Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:23 pm

This sunday I will be flying on the TK 787 from Amsterdam. My first time on the dreamliner, cant wait :)

Starting tomorrow TK cabin crew will be wearing their new uniforms. I really hope they will atleast take the hat off during the flight.

stylo777 wrote:
How many MAX are actually stored at ISL? I thought most of them have been ferried to IST.
Mykonos seems to be the new hotspot in recent times. KK is flying there 3x a week. I'm actually quite surprised that PC (or even TK) didn't consider it yet.


10 according to IGA's instagram story. I thought it was 12.
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Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:05 am

Bon Voyage on your first 787 flight :)
OK, I think I am mixing up things but there are 12 MAX's at the new airport, correct??
I did not know that there were also some at the Ataturk, besides the ones stored in the US.
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:25 am

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Bon Voyage on your first 787 flight :)
OK, I think I am mixing up things but there are 12 MAX's at the new airport, correct??
I did not know that there were also some at the Ataturk, besides the ones stored in the US.

There are at least 3 or 4 near the GA terminal all plugged up sitting there for months, I always just forget to take pictures when I fly from there, but 3 minimum at ISL
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Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:52 am

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TK787 wrote:
Bon Voyage on your first 787 flight :)
OK, I think I am mixing up things but there are 12 MAX's at the new airport, correct??
I did not know that there were also some at the Ataturk, besides the ones stored in the US.

There are at least 3 or 4 near the GA terminal all plugged up sitting there for months, I always just forget to take pictures when I fly from there, but 3 minimum at ISL

AFAIK, the latest count was 3 stored at ISL and 9 stored in IST. These undergo daily & weekly maintenance, as advised/instructed by Boeing. Have heard that some "sensitive" but easy to re-install galley equipment have also been removed from these frames and stored elsewhere.
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Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:47 am

mafaky wrote:
TK787 wrote:
mafaky wrote:

There were two AnadoluJet (TK's subsidiary type branch) from AYT to ESB and TC-LLD (not LLA!) collected the pax. of two flights and brought them to ES. This flight has been a TK-7000 type flight number.

I saw that one, but this one is different.
TC-LLA performed TK2122 and TK2123 IST-ESB roundtrip yesterday and sat on the tarmac for 25 hours before going to Bali after midnight.


Strange, but can happen. Maybe some minor maintenance or some rectification inside the cabin?

Should we start betting on which TC-LL(?) you will be flying IAD-IST? :roll:


Will be LLC ;)
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:52 am

MeCe wrote:

Will be LLC ;)

:bouncy:

Also, looking at July 2019 Istanbul passenger numbers from DHMI stat pages:
IST ---Domestic is down 18% YoY, INT is about the same
SAW-- Domestic is down 9% YoY, INT is up 14%
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:38 pm

It's becoming more and more obvious that the (New) IST's year-end figures plus ISL (ex-IST/AHL) Jan-5th April 2019 figures added may not surpass ISL's (AHL) 2018 year end values. Domestic market is pretty much down for all airports in Turkey (not limited only to Istanbul's Airports...), but it's also debatable if the International pax increases are due to O & D or int-int transfer traffic. My gutfeel is that current IST is taking more of the int-int traffic, thanks to TK's policies. And some more profitable international O & D traffic is fleeing away from IST and going to SAW's side where, actually, int-int transfer traffic is pretty much lower than IST. :( :mad:

If this trend may continue for the next 4-5 years (and, it may, bcz. of Turkey's weak & fragile economy in these days), there will be no need for a second terminal or any further runways for (New) IST in the foreseeable future!!! :shock: :banghead:

Nevertheless, IGA will not be after sourcing additional finance for expansions, but they will be confined with the incomes of these current facilities which may not take them too far away (esp. if they will still be imposed to pay € 1 Billion + to the State, annually!). :grumpy: :irked:
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Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:17 pm

My Istanbul pax numbers might not be super accurate, but pretty close I think.
More numbers; last week with 4 frames flying, average TK 787 flight time per plane per day was 6.68 hours. I know it is a new type for the fleet and crews and everyone else is getting trained. So, I looked at some new 787 operators, see what they are doing with their early frames:
-1st Air Tahiti Nui 787 flew 16.49 hrs/day
-1st EVA 787-100 flew 6.8 hrs/day (-100 series for short haul trunk routes, might be different situation)
-4th ELAL 787 flew 12.12 hrs/day
-5th KLM 787 flew 13.19 hrs/day
-6th Uzbekistan 787 flew 9.78 hrs/day
Am I comparing apples to oranges? Is this about average for TK to operate these 4 frames these sparingly? Thank you.
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:09 pm

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Starting tomorrow TK cabin crew will be wearing their new uniforms. I really hope they will atleast take the hat off during the flight.

they started wearing the new ones and the hat will be taken off during flight for sure.
looks pretty and nice, but not as classy and smart as the previous one. I also think that the skirt design doesn't match the jacket.

https://twitter.com/Hurriyet/status/115 ... 73826?s=20
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:48 pm

Anyone have an update on 3x weekly IST-YVR by TK?
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2019 4:32 pm

stylo777 wrote:
Mystic wrote:
Starting tomorrow TK cabin crew will be wearing their new uniforms. I really hope they will atleast take the hat off during the flight.

they started wearing the new ones and the hat will be taken off during flight for sure.
looks pretty and nice, but not as classy and smart as the previous one. I also think that the skirt design doesn't match the jacket.

https://twitter.com/Hurriyet/status/115 ... 73826?s=20


I thought so too but my family just landed on the TK1525 and their crew did not have the new uniforms.. Hmm?
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Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:57 pm

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I thought so too but my family just landed on the TK1525 and their crew did not have the new uniforms.. Hmm?

-AFAIK, only ER flights will have the new uniforms to start with and then, a gradual transition.
-By the way, for my flight back at the end of the month, I was on a standby list for J upgrade. Finally today, I got an email that my IST-IAD upgrade is confirmed but need to call the TK center to confirm. When I called, I was told that there is no longer a standby system for upgrades and I got the email by error. Very strange, but I am always prepared for this kinda stuff :) Then she says "let me try something else". So, she says no more seats left for paid upgrades but there is room for unpaid upgrades and that way I was able to use my ElitePlus voucher and get a seat on my return in J.
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Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:45 pm

Are "ER flights" long-haul flights?
 
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Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:29 pm

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Are "ER flights" long-haul flights?

Not sure technically, but yes I suppose they mean Extended Range, Americas, SE Asia, S.Africa and such.
Also I am not sure if that includes any single aisle aircraft at all.
 
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Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:23 pm

According to Routesonline , TK is going to use more 789s on IST-JFK starting August2020:
TK1/2 77W Daily
TK3/4 789 Daily
TK11/12 Mix of 77W/789 Daily
30C 270Y 789 will be replacing the 28C 261Y 333, slight capacity increase.
 
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Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:19 pm

Thanks MeCe, so it is TC-LLC, just took off from IST.
As usual, have to deal with other stuff. The UA flight I am supposed to take EWR-IAD has been cancelled 3 times in the last 10 days, or delayed a lot. So, I booked a one-way rental car to drive 5 hours to IAD :(
 
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Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:13 pm

LGA/JFK or to DCA wasn't an option?
quite unfortunate and exhausting...
 
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Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:44 pm

stylo777 wrote:
LGA/JFK or to DCA wasn't an option?
quite unfortunate and exhausting...

I know, but it is the weather. The usual afternoon thunderstorms. It affects all area air travel. Even though it looks better for this evening; I am not going to take a chance. What if I get on the NY-DC plane and there is a mechanical issue, no way of making it in time for TK8.
Still, I could have taken the train or the bus, but driving myself seemed like an OK idea. Let's see how that turns out :)
 
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Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:20 pm

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Thanks MeCe, so it is TC-LLC, just took off from IST.
As usual, have to deal with other stuff. The UA flight I am supposed to take EWR-IAD has been cancelled 3 times in the last 10 days, or delayed a lot. So, I booked a one-way rental car to drive 5 hours to IAD :(

Thats quite the effort! No earlier flight etc?
Also how does one post a video on this site


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Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:42 am

This is such a rookie mistake.
I bought the tickets seperately 6+ months ago. Because I was so excited.
I should have thought about connection problems and I should have travelled to D.C. a day early and enjoy a relaxing day before the flight.
But, oh well. I made it to the airport just in time for TK7 landing. Since this is my first time at IAD, I was chasing the plane to get some pictures and missed the water cannon salute by 30 seconds. It happened after the plane parked at the gate B41. It would have been an awesome shot, the light was incredible.
Talking about IAD, wow!!! I am blown away, an architectural marvel, just an incredible building. Also, it is so quiet, clean, I wish it was my home airport.
Took the lonely walk to the B gates, took some pictures of TC-LLC and entered the TK lounge.
Who knew that there is a second floor and only for VIP guests, I imagine you have to be friends with the government types to get in there.
Apparently, there were 3 "guests" today. After having some snack on the second floor, they were taken inside the plane to "bless" it. I feel safe already :)
I asked and was given towels to take a shower in this small lounge. One shower only and it is not that special. It would be so much nicer, if they have the same brand amenities in the shower as on the aircrafts. The towels were in terrible shape, old, thin.. And lastly, there was no place to put a carry on, toiletries and such. It would be also very nice to have a sink inside. But, overall, I am happy to be able to take a shower after a 6 hour drive from NYC.
Lounge is a typical TK lounge, many many kids, running around and screaming. Food and Drinks options are not that great. Compared to the LH lounge I am used to at JFK, this one is below par. I might go check out LH lounge here also.
Enough of me
I am not sure how to upload a video here, but you can always upload to Youtube and include the link.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation August 2019

Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:44 am

BTW TC–LOL Airbus A330–343 (msn 1098) was delivered
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation August 2019

Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:59 pm

Well, I just arrived at IST an hour ago and I have few hours here at the Domestic Lounge, might as well tell you all about my first TK 787 experience :) It is going to be long:

-Well, I was received like a rockstar with my "TK787" shirt, had a wonderful time chatting with the crew and the pilots flying and the full A333 crew that flew the last type flight yesterday.
-All of the crew are very excited with the new uniforms and the new airplane. I thought the new uniforms are looking great, chic, but it is going to take some time to have them all tailored for each person using them. Some of them looked borrowed, not fitted to the person nicely. I thought it might be too much red in the cabin but not. It is all nice and mostly gray with red accessories.
-I've flow the 787 before but this looked fresh, airy, high ceiling, big overhead bins. Even though it was a full flight, no where near full up overheads. Galleys are huge, brightly lit (beware sitting at the first row when those curtains are open)
-I liked my seat mostly. Between my legs, at the bottom of the seat, there is a foot long leather piece that says," Pull to release life jacket" but underneath that is a metal piece sticking out, an inch long door handle type thing. It hurt my leg getting in the seat. I have no idea, how that metal piece is exposed just like that. It is dangerous even in a non emergency situation. The seat is soooo private that you don't see any other pax, they don't see you, nobody bumps into you, in a cocoon. It is comfortable, when at lie-flat position it is way longer than the 777 seats. My foot never touched the end of the seat, I am 1.80cm ( around 6 feet) And unlike the UA Polaris 767-400 seats, there is ample foot room, when turning to your side. Controls a bit quirky, not a whole lot of choices to customize where you want your seat. Its either sit up, lounge or lay down, and the controls don't work smoothly. I only can look out of one window, compared to 3 on a 77W. And can't see anything else. The monitor is huge, 22"?? and sharp. The mirror that is hidden on the side does not have a locking system so when we landed they all opened up. The cocoon like shape of the seat is almost unnecessary, why do they have it on the window side, there is no need for it, so I can look out of two windows. Also where you put the feet, no need for it to be all closed, window side could be open, so you can move your feet freely. Biggest problem with the sleeping position is the hitting your knees, constantly. Most people would like to sleep on their sides and there is not enough room for the knees. Straight position is fine, but when you turn to your side, it is a problem. And the whole tray situation, when they are serving food for about an hour, you can't get out of your seat, since it doesn't swivel. Real nice headrest though, totally supports the neck.
Crew doesn't like the J class, since two people can not walk side by side... they say.
-On this flight, they did not have a safety video, FA's did the good old style of doing in standing in the aisles. But the English was hard to understand.
-I was told on these late late night flights, they dont bring out the appetizer and the desert carts. All the food orders was taken by the Chef while we were on the ground, and brought to each seat one tray at a time,
-3 Bathrooms for the J cabin, one in the front Port side, two at the back. The one on the Starboard side is bigger, handicapped ??
-1 hour into the flight, there was no Food/Beverage service. Only FA's trying to make everyone's beds. By the way, this trip was the first ER trip for this former 77W crew, they are still trying to learn how to work out kinks.
-They had nothing special for this first 787 USA flight, I was expecting a cake at the gate, or a certificate on board, anything....
-1.5 hours into flight I got a drink and warm nuts. 2.5 hours into flight all food service was completed. I chose the mozzarella/tomato/basil app and the beef and some ice-cream and cheese plate. I am always surprised why TK doesn't serve water with meals. You have to ask for it.
-The seat shell is so big that if you drop something, good luck trying to find it underneath. Be very careful, I've dropped my sunglasses, my lens cap and my cell phone. All very luckily right in front of me.
-For a full flight, there were 10 FAs and 1 Chef and it showed. They were struggling, even on a red eye flight, with most people sleeping most of the time.
-They could not get the internet to work on a 14 day old plane :(
-Cabin temp was fine, thanks to two gasper fans per J seat.
-Air quality/pressure and humidity is definitely better on the 787.
-But there was this strange flutter coming from the AC constantly, a high pitch background noise all throughout the flight.
-One of the smoothest flights for me, just a few light bumps over Bulgaria, but that's it. Landed on 35R and it took us 13 minutes to taxi to GateG5. And as expected a bus trip to International Piers, transfer passport control, security check and back to Domestic transfer to G gates area. From touch down to me reaching the Domestic TK lounge to have a cup of coffee took exactly one hour.

So, here it is folks. Ask me any questions if I missed anything. I might do a short video and post it on Youtube about this trip when I have some time.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation August 2019

Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:37 pm

Great detailed review! Sounds like a interesting flight, although I will probably never fly business anyway.

I have some issues with my Onur Air, charter booking. I booked for the 18th with a travel agency but the charter company says the flight is on the 19th and I dont know which one is true. I have been waiting 3 hours to speak to the custerom service of the agency (edreams).. such a dissapointment.
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Re: Turkish Aviation August 2019

Fri Aug 09, 2019 5:37 pm

TK787 wrote:
-One of the smoothest flights for me, just a few light bumps over Bulgaria, but that's it.

We know that a full 787 can fly at a higher altitude compared to a fully loaded 77W. Perhaps it is because of flight altitude that you had a smooth flight. Normally a loaded 77W ER flight starts its level flight at a flight level of 30K or 32K feet and than gradually climb up to 36K feet or more towards end of the journey. What was the flight levels during your flight.
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