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Rwy 14/32 KBOS - largest a/c?

Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:17 am

What is the largest aircraft that has used rwy 14/32 at KBOS?
At 5000'x100', it isn't exactly short when compared to KDCA's 5204'x150' rwy 15/33.
I've seen A319s use 15/33 at KDCA. Perhaps a B6 E190?

 
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Re: Rwy 14/32 KBOS - largest a/c?

Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:26 am

Purely anecdotal, but the biggest I've seen on there is the e190.

Also barely ever used
 
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Re: Rwy 14/32 KBOS - largest a/c?

Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:51 pm

FGITD wrote:
Also barely ever used


It actually gets used quite a bit, depending on the configuration, but only in one direction. Typical customers are Cape Air, Porter, and jetBlue’s E190’s. A lot of RJ’s are actually unable to use the runway because of the climb gradient required on a go-around, not because of the actual runway length.
 
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Re: Rwy 14/32 KBOS - largest a/c?

Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:57 pm

You certainly wont see any arrivals onto 14...
 
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Re: Rwy 14/32 KBOS - largest a/c?

Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:51 pm

http://www.massport.com/media/3387/sept ... shared.pdf

This will tell you how many jets used it, it’s about 200 a month average for 32, no records of all usage sadly.
That feeling when you sit at the end of a runway, brakes are released and the raw power takes over. Now that is a thing of beauty and it never gets old.
 
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Re: Rwy 14/32 KBOS - largest a/c?

Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:21 pm

N766UA wrote:
FGITD wrote:
Also barely ever used


It actually gets used quite a bit, depending on the configuration, but only in one direction. Typical customers are Cape Air, Porter, and jetBlue’s E190’s. A lot of RJ’s are actually unable to use the runway because of the climb gradient required on a go-around, not because of the actual runway length.


NIMBYs forced some strict limits on usage depending on winds and runway configs. It is too bad because I think the original plan was for more utilization than it sees now. Wasn’t 9K going to relocate to the Earhart terminal for ops and use 32?
 
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Re: Rwy 14/32 KBOS - largest a/c?

Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:33 pm

Keep in mind that when it was designed in addition to Cape Air there were significant prop operations by both US and DL at BOS.

I imagine that PenAir also used it quite a bit when they ran an EAS focus city out of BOS.
 
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Re: Rwy 14/32 KBOS - largest a/c?

Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:26 pm

N766UA wrote:
It actually gets used quite a bit, depending on the configuration, but only in one direction. Typical customers are Cape Air, Porter, and jetBlue’s E190’s. A lot of RJ’s are actually unable to use the runway because of the climb gradient required on a go-around, not because of the actual runway length.


Will B6 be able to use it for A220 ops? (Or DL, for that matter, but I'd think losing use of it would be more impactful for B6.)
 
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Re: Rwy 14/32 KBOS - largest a/c?

Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:37 pm

drdisque wrote:
Keep in mind that when it was designed in addition to Cape Air there were significant prop operations by both US and DL at BOS.

I imagine that PenAir also used it quite a bit when they ran an EAS focus city out of BOS.


Also worth remembering that when the runway was first designed and proposed, propliners were still a very common sight at Logan. I'm sure it would have seen extensive use had it been built as planned...in 1975.

Really think the space could be better used these days
 
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Re: Rwy 14/32 KBOS - largest a/c?

Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:04 pm

FGITD wrote:
Also worth remembering that when the runway was first designed and proposed, propliners were still a very common sight at Logan. I'm sure it would have seen extensive use had it been built as planned...in 1975.


Actually it was built. Then covered up.
 
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Re: Rwy 14/32 KBOS - largest a/c?

Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:27 pm

Since the runway's use is quite limited I've wondered about the possibility of closing it and using part of that space for a new cargo area for FedEx, and expanding Terminal A through the current Cargo area.
 
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Re: Rwy 14/32 KBOS - largest a/c?

Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:50 pm

Kno wrote:
Since the runway's use is quite limited I've wondered about the possibility of closing it and using part of that space for a new cargo area for FedEx, and expanding Terminal A through the current Cargo area.


Take another look at the picture of KBOS and think again.


Gf
 
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Re: Rwy 14/32 KBOS - largest a/c?

Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:54 pm

GalaxyFlyer wrote:
Kno wrote:
Since the runway's use is quite limited I've wondered about the possibility of closing it and using part of that space for a new cargo area for FedEx, and expanding Terminal A through the current Cargo area.


Take another look at the picture of KBOS and think again.


Gf


I did, and the amount of space looks perfect for exactly what I suggested. I'm sure there may be other reasons why not to, but when you look at google maps it looks like a reasonable idea.
 
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Re: Rwy 14/32 KBOS - largest a/c?

Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:19 pm

flyby519 wrote:
N766UA wrote:
FGITD wrote:
Also barely ever used


It actually gets used quite a bit, depending on the configuration, but only in one direction. Typical customers are Cape Air, Porter, and jetBlue’s E190’s. A lot of RJ’s are actually unable to use the runway because of the climb gradient required on a go-around, not because of the actual runway length.


NIMBYs forced some strict limits on usage depending on winds and runway configs. It is too bad because I think the original plan was for more utilization than it sees now. Wasn’t 9K going to relocate to the Earhart terminal for ops and use 32?


I never heard that rumor! 32 is very dependent on wind, for sure, but when the winds are right we'd use it all day. Much preferred to 33R...

Kno wrote:
Since the runway's use is quite limited I've wondered about the possibility of closing it and using part of that space for a new cargo area for FedEx, and expanding Terminal A through the current Cargo area.


Runway 32 is actually an important runway to have, giving more options when reconfiguring the airport to adapt to changing wind conditions. Most of the controllers I've talked to at both the tower and BCT consider it to be an enormously useful runway.

Keep in mind that Cape Air alone can account for something like 100 arrivals an hour in the peak summer months. That's 100 less airplanes the main runways need to handle at peak times. 100 less airplanes to sequence with jets. 100 less airplanes to push departures out off 33L in between, etc. 32 makes the entire airport more efficient.
 
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Re: Rwy 14/32 KBOS - largest a/c?

Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:51 pm

I think we’re referring to 14L/32R, the short one, not 14R/32L. 14L/32R is basically between the 04L/R, pretty hard to build anything there.
 
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Re: Rwy 14/32 KBOS - largest a/c?

Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:55 pm

GalaxyFlyer wrote:
I think we’re referring to 14L/32R, the short one, not 14R/32L. 14L/32R is basically between the 04L/R, pretty hard to build anything there.


Boston has neither a runway 14L/32R nor 14R/32L.
 
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Re: Rwy 14/32 KBOS - largest a/c?

Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:15 pm

One, there’s a picture of 14L at the top of thread, two, that’s the thread title, but, three, you’re right the Jepp chart has them as 15/33 parallels
 
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Re: Rwy 14/32 KBOS - largest a/c?

Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:35 pm

GalaxyFlyer wrote:
One, there’s a picture of 14L at the top of thread, two, that’s the thread title, but, three, you’re right the Jepp chart has them as 15/33 parallels


There’s no picture of 14L at the top of the thread. At all. The runway being discussed is 14/32.

I know I’m right. I’ve landed there something like 2,000 times. :lol:
 
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Re: Rwy 14/32 KBOS - largest a/c?

Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:54 pm

Yes, I see it now, been since flying at EAL that I landed at KBOS. Sorry, but I was assuming the STOL parallel, didn’t even know there was a runway on the south side of the field.
 
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Re: Rwy 14/32 KBOS - largest a/c?

Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:18 pm

GalaxyFlyer wrote:
Yes, I see it now, been since flying at EAL that I landed at KBOS. Sorry, but I was assuming the STOL parallel, didn’t even know there was a runway on the south side of the field.


Yeah you were thinking 33R. It’s 2500 feet long and you can’t overfly 27 when you land on it, so you crank it in at the last second. Totally landed an A320 sim on it once, though, so I don’t know why jetBlue doesn’t use it. :razz:

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