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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:23 pm

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That was PR 8117 from BGI and continuing to CRK as a repatriation flight of cruise ship crew.

Thank you. So, a continuation of these operations then..... :thumbsup:

http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=BGI-YVR-CRK&MS=wls&DU=nm


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Edit: The first photo I posted didn't look like it was taken on a Caribbean island. :sun:
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Jun 12, 2020 5:23 am

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Speaking of LAX-CEB once this COVID Crisis is over do you think PAL will push through with launching direct flights between Cebu to Los Angelas and Manila to Perth?


I have a feeling they will push through with both routes. As MNL may still have capacity constraints for inbounds, might as well funnel pax to/from the Vismin region into the CEB-LAX-CEB service.
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Jun 12, 2020 11:39 pm

https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2020 ... f-barbados

While certainly laudable especially on this day...it's also saddening that many of those thousands would be out work without any assurances of gainful employment soon. The only consolation is they're back safe with their families now...somewhat redeeming the hassles they went through trying to get home and going into quarantine. Some may even return to as far south as Sulu..... :eyepopping:

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http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/ ... grade.html


On the upside, spotters may be having a field day -- if they could manage to dodge ECQ and go to the airport. :camera:



In the meantime.....

https://www.philstar.com/business/2020/ ... ubmissions

https://www.philstar.com/business/2020/ ... strictions
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Jun 13, 2020 1:05 am

Devilfish wrote:
https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2020/06/12/2020356/stranded-pinay-cruise-ship-worker-kills-self-barbados

While certainly laudable especially on this day...it's also saddening that many of those thousands would be out work without any assurances of gainful employment soon. The only consolation is they're back safe with their families now...somewhat redeeming the hassles they went through trying to get home and going into quarantine. Some may even return to as far south as Sulu..... :eyepopping:

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http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/ ... grade.html


On the upside, spotters may be having a field day -- if they could manage to dodge ECQ and go to the airport. :camera:

While JOL's opening looks promising, I still have hunches that this airport will have extreme safeguards, especially that the island is still notorious for the presence of Islam Extremists.

And for spotting, some are doing already, specifically in the outside perimeters of MNL as the region is in GCQ but most spotters are still adamant as cases rise and remains unsafe to do so.

Meanwhile in MNL yesterday......
https://www.facebook.com/134752476678442/posts/1812567075563632/
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Jun 13, 2020 3:00 pm

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Meanwhile in MNL yesterday......

Good for them! Filipinos are treated shabbily in their own country..... :irked:

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1290857/s ... er-flyover

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source: @PASBS.com


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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Jun 15, 2020 7:16 pm

This updated PAL advisory says that for June 2020, all international departures will be from NAIA T1 and international arrivals (except those directed to Cebu) will be at NAIA T2. :arrow:

https://www.philippineairlines.com/Abou ... 29may20-63

Flights on June 14 and 15 to/fro YVR and SFO were cancelled because of shortage of international arrival slots due to inadequacy of COVID-19 quarantine facility in MNL.


Does the above also mean the DOTr will now be working on NAIA T2 departure hall's renovation to streamline it for domestic operations :?:
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:24 am

PR has released seatmaps that includes options for social distancing. Middle seats in the forward portions of Premium Economy and Economy are blocked on all aircraft (except the Q400, where the aisle seats are blocked). There will be no extra fee on top of the fare to avail these seats, but are only available to Economy Flex and Premium Economy passengers. This will go into effect from 1 July, wonder how the implementation of this arrangement would go...
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:36 pm

The scene for arriving passengers who'd undergo COVID-19 testing and quarantine at CRK.....

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https://radyo.inquirer.net/249288/mahig ... sa-kahapon



PAL advisory regarding NA flights rerouted to CEB..... :arrow:

https://www.philippineairlines.com/Abou ... 16jun20-73
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:25 pm

Even if he might not be the prime mover behind the NMIA proposal, the passing of Eduardo Murphy Cojuangco Jr. :tombstone: brings to the fore questions about its future viability. Couple that with the pandemic that is now gripping the world, and it again raises the specter that the project would soon be a goner too despite statements to the contrary.

https://www.philstar.com/business/2020/ ... port-goner


Fervently hoping it wouldn't be so! :crossfingers:
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:58 pm

Philippine747 wrote:
PR has released seatmaps that includes options for social distancing. Middle seats in the forward portions of Premium Economy and Economy are blocked on all aircraft (except the Q400, where the aisle seats are blocked). There will be no extra fee on top of the fare to avail these seats, but are only available to Economy Flex and Premium Economy passengers. This will go into effect from 1 July, wonder how the implementation of this arrangement would go...

This is interesting. Basically, it’s a pay up or die situation. (hyperbole, of course lol)
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:21 pm

The latest in the real life drama that is the New Manila International Airport aerotropolis..... :crying:

https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2020 ... mpensation


The NewsX feature mid-article expounds on the environmental and livelihood concerns, while the photo essay at the end illustrates the heart rending situation of the people most affected by the project. :sorry:
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:17 pm

The long, arduous task of repatriating OFWs continues.....

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/ ... frica.html

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It was a revisiting of sorts for PR as they used to fly to TIP a long time ago...although the 77W could have flown directly to MJI.

:pray: Tragic though to note that among the returnees on a different flight from Jeddah on 21 June were 282 dead - 50 of COVID related illnesses! :tombstone:



From the A320N P/D thread however, COVID-19 was also unable to delay the delivery of an A321N to 5J..... :arrow:

qf789 wrote:
Cebu Pacific A321neo RP-C4123 MSN 9150, delivered XFW-MCT-MNL

https://aibfamily.flights/A320/9150
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:43 pm

Despite the above, it seems 5J is still looking to reduce or delay its fleet expansion..... :point:

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/ ... crews.html

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"The airline has implemented a sweeping review of its long-term expansion, which includes the acquisition of 61 next-generation planes until 2026. It is also pre-terminating leases on expiring contract to some of its Airbus A320 aircraft to be return to lessor earlier than expected due to excess capacity. Delivery of new aircraft are also put on hold."



For a break from all this gloom and doom, let's take a look at what's going on in CRK other than the COVID testing and quarantine there..... :relieved:

Here are a few images from SkyscraperCity posted by @Sisigboy.....


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There's a comment that the Airport Village might be transformed into a bus terminal. Fortunately, there doesn't seem to be any plan to build an airport mall or hotel which would block the facade of the terminal from view...unlike the one envisioned for CEB T2. Hopefully, they would finish CRK T2 plus the airfield facilities and complete all operational testing and commissioning before a surge in demand happens when the pandemic eases. :crossfingers:
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:32 pm

Concept design from Populous Architects..... :wideeyed: .....

https://populous.com/our-projects

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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:53 am

Similar to TPE's full name. But Manila International Airport is way more better than this proposed name.
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1297364/paolo-duterte-2-solons-want-naia-renamed-to-paliparang-pandaigdig-ng-pilipinas
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:08 pm

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Similar to TPE's full name. But Manila International Airport is way more better than this proposed name.

Renaming the airport wouldn't do much good to the branding if the facilities and services aren't up to snuff. Doubtful others would want to "own" a dysfunctional entity. If they are bent on giving it a new name, Midtown Metropolitan Manila International Airport is a conceivable option if and when NMIA is completed.....

https://manilastandard.net/business/cor ... demic.html ----- https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1298822/b ... rt-project

But the name is also a mouthful...so how to shorten it...MaMaMIA :?:

https://www.philstar.com/nation/2020/06 ... a-congress



In the meantime, this is the most comprehensive video tour around CRK T2 I have seen so far...that it more than made up for the unstable camera work..... :bigthumbsup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... e=emb_logo

Posted by @normand in SkyscraperCity.....kudos to the creator: @Vicrenz25 vlog RV :cheerful:


The existing CRK T1 can be used for turboprop flights after CRK T2 becomes operational...until its time to build new infrastructure there.
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:36 pm

[quote="Devilfish"]
https://manilastandard.net/business/cor ... demic.html ----- https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1298822/b ... rt-project

But the name is also a mouthful...so how to shorten it...MaMaMIA :?:

Thats a good one Devilsh. He He. More likely could be called MIAculpa (forgive the pun, I know its MEAculpa). An easy, Manila International Airport, appropriate and foreigners won't have any problem with the pronunciation. :)

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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:37 am

SkyHigher wrote:
Similar to TPE's full name. But Manila International Airport is way more better than this proposed name.
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1297364/paolo-duterte-2-solons-want-naia-renamed-to-paliparang-pandaigdig-ng-pilipinas


They want rename NAIA to PPP. From Ninoy Aquino to Piolo Pascual Airport?! :eyepopping:
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:59 pm

intaJET wrote:
(forgive the pun, I know its MEAculpa)

I think you should post it in that airline's livery change thread instead. :wink2:
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:46 pm

Devilfish wrote:
intaJET wrote:
(forgive the pun, I know its MEAculpa)

I think you should post it in that airline's livery change thread instead. :wink2:


Nope, it was intended for this thread. It was a play (pun) on words. I know how much Filipino's like to do that. :)

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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:58 pm

So it's official...the Tenacious Six are not so tenacious after all..... :weightlifter: .....

https://business.inquirer.net/302040/tu ... grade-plan

https://business.inquirer.net/302024/2- ... -dominguez


I wonder who the two proponents now are? Don't tell me they are again the same guys from the mainland! If it is Megawide, I hope they would hew close to the NAIA Consortium's revised concept in #156 - which better fits the reduced scope of the project (insofar as site and structure development is concerned). That said, the design could still benefit with some sprucing up.....

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This is the right time for San Miguel's NMIA

The only way I see it moving forward in this climate is for a JV between SMC and say GMR...with the former leveraging its land holdings and the latter providing financial backing. Still, it would be a rocky "marriage of convenience" at best. :chat:
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:35 pm

I'm wondering too if DOTr is also discussing the project with POPULOUS even if the firm do not have a whole airport in their portfolio and are only doing the interiors for CRK T2? :scratchchin:
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:01 pm

Late Edit: :embarrassed2: Pardon my ignorance...I have just learned about POPULOUS' massive undertaking at KIX..... :eyepopping: .....

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81tDFjA ... e=youtu.be
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:42 pm

Devilfish wrote:
Late Edit: :embarrassed2: Pardon my ignorance...I have just learned about POPULOUS' massive undertaking at KIX..... :eyepopping: .....

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https://populous.com/wp-content/uploads ... 04x846.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81tDFjA ... e=youtu.be


Greetings everyone,

Yes, Populous (and associated group members) have numerous "World Class" projects in their portfolio. Truly feel sad that the Philippines gets embroiled in so much (political) back-and forth on projects that would genuinely benefit the general population of citizens, but ending-up being cash-cows for a handful of people only. The Filipinos deserve better. Changi, HK, KL & fast rising Vietnam (the list goes on-and-on) can get mega (airport) projects (designed, approved and actually up-and-running). With so much potential, the country falls behind many in the region. :(

Take care folks, be safe.
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:02 am

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Yes, Populous (and associated group members) have numerous "World Class" projects in their portfolio.

Apparently, the Government will now handle the project on its own...I really hope that POPULOUS would get to design this terminal. Furthermore, the areas in front of the terminals in the image bounded by the people mover carriageway and N. Aquino Av are long overdue for urban renewal. Their company's background in urban redevelopment makes them supremely qualified to do it. They could work with local developers to realize this optional revenue generating sector.

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/ ... esign.html

Quote:
"According to DOTr, the P102-billion NAIA rehabilitation project will instead be implemented by the government where it will build the long delayed Terminal 5 and interconnection project."


intaJET wrote:
Truly feel sad that the Philippines gets embroiled in so much (political) back-and forth on projects that would genuinely benefit the general population of citizens, but ending-up being cash-cows for a handful of people only.

But we all know what usually happens when governments get involved -- the project is delayed, goes over budget and emerges inadequate in the end. This is just a small airport that needs modernization, so one would think that ~$2B plus a small contingency should be enough. Any shortfall could be addressed by phasing in not so critical elements towards the tail end of the project.
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:09 am

The NAIA Consortium's OPS for MNL rehab is officially withdrawn by MIAA.

https://www.facebook.com/DOTrPH/posts/1750033421802453
 
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Re: Philippine Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:23 pm

SkyHigher wrote:
The NAIA Consortium's OPS for MNL rehab is officially withdrawn by MIAA.

Reported by Flightglobal as well.....

https://www.flightglobal.com/coronaviru ... 19.article
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