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(Famous) Cities / Places / Sights Questions and Discussion Thread - 2020

Tue Dec 31, 2019 4:40 pm

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Re: (Famous) Cities / Places / Sights Questions and Discussion Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:08 pm

The London Eye celebrated it's 20 year anniversary yesterday and has become an iconic landmark of London. It was officially opened by Tony Blair New Year's Eve 1999, but technical problems meant it did not open for riders until March 2000. It changes the London skyline forever and has become London's version of the Eiffel Tower in Paris and the Empire State Building in New York City. It is the most famous modern landmark of London and has joined the ranks of Big Ben, St.Paul's Cathedral, the Tower of London, and Tower Bridge.
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Re: (Famous) Cities / Places / Sights Questions and Discussion Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:17 pm

The most famous landmark in London? Not totally sure I believe that. Matter of fact, I'm not even sure it's the most attended.
 
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Re: (Famous) Cities / Places / Sights Questions and Discussion Thread - 2020

Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:39 am

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The most famous landmark in London? Not totally sure I believe that. Matter of fact, I'm not even sure it's the most attended.

The London Eye is the number one paid visitor attraction in Britain and the most famous contemporary landmark of London.
 
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Re: (Famous) Cities / Places / Sights Questions and Discussion Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:56 pm

Emaar has denied reports that it is selling the observation deck of the Burj Khalifa in Dubai after rumors of such a sale were made. The company was looking for a structured transaction where financing is being raised in the normal course of business against the cashflows. Regardless, the observation deck should and probably will stay open as it is a very popular and profitable tourist attraction for Dubai.
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Re: (Famous) Cities / Places / Sights Questions and Discussion Thread - 2020

Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:54 am

ArchGuy1 wrote:
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The most famous landmark in London? Not totally sure I believe that. Matter of fact, I'm not even sure it's the most attended.


The London Eye is the number one paid visitor attraction in Britain and the most famous contemporary landmark of London.


Number one paid attraction? Okay, yeah, I can see how it might be. But most famous contemporary landmark? Not even close. When you see a picture of a giant ferris wheel you might wonder "Is that the London Eye?" because there are several other similar ferris wheels around the world, but in the whole wide world there is only ONE Gherkin building. You see the Gherkin and you know "That's London!"-

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Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:18 am

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The most famous landmark in London? Not totally sure I believe that. Matter of fact, I'm not even sure it's the most attended.


The London Eye is the number one paid visitor attraction in Britain and the most famous contemporary landmark of London.


Number one paid attraction? Okay, yeah, I can see how it might be. But most famous contemporary landmark? Not even close. When you see a picture of a giant ferris wheel you might wonder "Is that the London Eye?" because there are several other similar ferris wheels around the world, but in the whole wide world there is only ONE Gherkin building. You see the Gherkin and you know "That's London!"-
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The London Eye is commonly seen in photographs featuring Big Ben and on the New Year's Eve celebrations on TV worldwide. So an argument can be made that the Eye is London's most famous contemporary landmark.
 
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Re: (Famous) Cities / Places / Sights Questions and Discussion Thread - 2020

Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:45 am

ArchGuy1 wrote:
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ArchGuy1 wrote:

The London Eye is the number one paid visitor attraction in Britain and the most famous contemporary landmark of London.


Number one paid attraction? Okay, yeah, I can see how it might be. But most famous contemporary landmark? Not even close. When you see a picture of a giant ferris wheel you might wonder "Is that the London Eye?" because there are several other similar ferris wheels around the world, but in the whole wide world there is only ONE Gherkin building. You see the Gherkin and you know "That's London!"-

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The London Eye is commonly seen in photographs featuring Big Ben and on the New Year's Eve celebrations on TV worldwide. So an argument can be made that the Eye is London's most famous contemporary landmark.


If you see a photo of a giant ferris wheel with nothing but blue sky around it, it is very difficult to tell if it is the London Eye or one of several other similar ones found around the world including one in Las Vegas, therefore it is not a true "landmark". There is only one Gherkin Building, and even if you see a photo of it and nothing else but blue sky around it, you still know beyond a shadow of a doubt that that photo was taken in London.
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Re: (Famous) Cities / Places / Sights Questions and Discussion Thread - 2020

Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:34 am

London's most famous landmarks are Big Ben and Tower Bridge.

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Re: (Famous) Cities / Places / Sights Questions and Discussion Thread - 2020

Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:34 am

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London's most famous landmarks are Big Ben and Tower Bridge.


Agreed in general, but Archguy did add the qualifier "contemporary".
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Re: (Famous) Cities / Places / Sights Questions and Discussion Thread - 2020

Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:18 am

TSS wrote:
Airstud wrote:
London's most famous landmarks are Big Ben and Tower Bridge.


Agreed in general, but Archguy did add the qualifier "contemporary".


That’ll be the Shard then. The giant middle-eastern penis in the centre of London; every country must be laughing at us, we don’t own anything in our country anymore). Very recognisable, I would say more than the Gherkin- which isn’t more recognisable that the Walkie Talkie building... I’d put the Millenium Dome (O2) ahead of the gherkin.

Definitely Big Ben clock tower and Tower Bridge win though.
 
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Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:05 pm

chimborazo wrote:
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Airstud wrote:
London's most famous landmarks are Big Ben and Tower Bridge.


Agreed in general, but Archguy did add the qualifier "contemporary".


That’ll be the Shard then. The giant middle-eastern penis in the centre of London; every country must be laughing at us, we don’t own anything in our country anymore). Very recognisable, I would say more than the Gherkin- which isn’t more recognisable that the Walkie Talkie building... I’d put the Millenium Dome (O2) ahead of the gherkin.

Definitely Big Ben clock tower and Tower Bridge win though.

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Re: (Famous) Cities / Places / Sights Questions and Discussion Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:25 am

A couple days ago, the Burj Khalifa celebrated the 10 year anniversary of it's opening with a lightshow and a list of records projected on the facade. Crowds gathered near the building as the show took place. World records held by the building include the world's tallest building, world's highest occupied floor, and the longest elevator travel distance. The Burj Khalifa has been seen in countless documentaries, blockbuster films, and is visited by more than a million people every year. The Burj Khalifa has become a world landmark, along the lines of the Empire State Building, Statue of Liberty, Golden Gate Bridge, National Mall, Eiffel Tower, Giza Pyramids, Hagia Sophia, Big Ben, the Sydney Opera House, Great Wall of China, Taj Mahal, and Christ the Redemmer. Very impressive feat of engineering and architecture.
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Re: (Famous) Cities / Places / Sights Questions and Discussion Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:53 am

A 190 foot tall Ferris wheel is coming to the Bayside Marketplace, which was endorsed by the Miami Commissioners. The SkyViews of America Wheel will have 42 climate enclosed gondolas with room for eight passengers in each one with views of Biscayne Bay and the Miami and Miami Beach skylines. It is located just south of the Hard Rock Cafe and several hundered feet from the proposed SkyRise Miami observation tower. The wheel if permnant, would be an iconic landmark for the skyline of Miami. It is a great opportunity for Miami to move toward having a recognizable landmark and have something that people will identify as part of the skyline.
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Ciel Tower Hotel in Dubai

Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:45 am

The Ciel Tower in the Marina district of Dubai will become the world's tallest all hotel skyscraper at a height of 360.4 meters (1,182 feet), therefore surpassing the height of the Gevora Hotel, also in Dubai that was built in 2018 at a height of 1,168 feet. The Ciel Tower will have 1,042 rooms spread across 82 floors. A glass observation deck will allow visitors to take in 360 degree views of Dubai and visitors can also take in the sights from a rooftop swimming pool and restaurants. Panoramic views of the coastline and landmarks like the Palm Jumeriah will.be offered from the observation deck. The hotel will also feature a spa, business facilities, and multiple award winning restaurants with an opening date in late 2022 or early 2023. This is yet the latest Dubai entrant in the world's tallest hotel that includes the Gevora, the JW Marriott Marquis at a height of 1,165 feet, the Rise Rayhaan at a height of 1,093 feet, and the Burj al Arab at a height of 1,053 feet. This is the latest push by Dubai to remain competitive with other cities like New York City, London, Hong Kong, Istanbul, and Doha.
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Re: Grand Egyptian Museum

Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:31 pm

The Grand Egyptian Museum is scheduled to be opened at the end of 2020 and is 90 percent complete. Construction began in 2006, but the 2011 Revolution and years of unrest and instability have slowed construction on the museum. 5 million visitors a year are expected to visit every year, more than the number that visit the Empire State Building in New York City. The museum has thousands of artifacts and is the largest antiquities collection belonging to a single civilization. A very big event in history and this could easily allow tourist numbers in Egypt to fully recover and provide a positive image of Egypt in light of recent tensions in Iran.
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Re: Historic NYC Building to be Possibly Demolished

Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:03 am

Preservationists held a rally to support saving the Deamerst Building in New York City last month and it is a sign of people taking action to ensure that a historic building will be preserved.
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Fort Worth Flying Saucer to be Demolished

Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:16 pm

The flying saucer shaped arena at the Fort Worth Convention Center will soon be demolished as part of a $500 million dollar plan to expand exhibit space and add hotel rooms. The project was approved in a City Council committee and groundbreaking is scheduled for 2022 or 2023. In addition to demolishing the arena, the proposal also calls for straightening Commerce Street, building a 1,000 room hotel, and adding more than 50,000 square feet of exhibit hall space with public art also being a feature. The project would be paid for by hotel taxes rather than taxes from Fort Worth residents. The Rolling Stones, Elvis Presley, and Led Zeppelin preformed in the flying saucer arena. It would be nice if the City of Fort Worth could find a way to save the existing building and incorporate the arena into the redevelopment plan.
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Hard Rock Hotel in Las Vegas Closing

Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:44 pm

The Hard Rock Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas will be closing on February 3 after 25 years in operation to make way for the newest Virgin Hotel. The Last Great Party Weekend will take place between January 30 and February 2 to celebrate the hotel's final chapter. Each afternoon, love music will start in the Center Bar, Fu Asian Kitchen, and Peacock Lounge at 4 pm. The Growlers will be the last artists to perform in the Vinyl showroom when they take place at 8 pm from January 30-February 1. The doors will be locked at 3 am on February 3 and the degraded property reopens in the fall of this year. The article talks about significant events that have happened in the Hard Rock Hotel's history. It is sad to see such a unique hotel and casino closed, but its is typical in Las Vegas.
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Chicago Trolley & Double Decker Closed

Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:05 pm

Chicago Trolley and Double Decker Co, which operated double decker and trolley sightseeing buses in Chicago decided to close on New Year's Eve 2019 after 25 years in operation. Chicago Trolley and Double Decker was also the largest tourism transportation company in the Midwest. The Chicago Cubs used the company's buses for the World Series parade in 2016, along with the Chicago Blackhawks for the Stanley Cup in 2010, 2013, and 2015. Former Presidents, Bill Clinton and Barrack Obama also used their buses for their events. Very sad to see an iconic and popular sightseeing bus company close and I wish that they were still open.
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Re: Hard Rock Hotel in Las Vegas Closing

Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:31 pm

For what it's worth, I heard some reasonable-sounding speculation that the Hard Rock might reopen in one of the on-strip properties that have been changing hands recently in Las Vegas. Since the Hard Rock is currently way, way, way, (literally three blocks) off-strip, that could only be an improvement.

Or it could be complete and total BS/wishful thinking. Depends on if the "powers that be" that own the franchise think their bottom line will ultimately be enhanced more by upping their game a notch and going whole hog or by pulling out of the Vegas market completely. Time will tell.
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Re: Hard Rock Hotel in Las Vegas Closing

Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:35 pm

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For what it's worth, I heard some reasonable-sounding speculation that the Hard Rock might reopen in one of the on-strip properties that have been changing hands recently in Las Vegas. Since the Hard Rock is currently way, way, way, (literally three blocks) off-strip, that could only be an improvement.

Or it could be complete and total BS/wishful thinking. Depends on if the "powers that be" that own the franchise think their bottom line will ultimately be enhanced more by upping their game a notch and going whole hog or by pulling out of the Vegas market completely. Time will tell.

The standalone Hard Rock Cafe at the hotel is being demolished.
 
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Peak at Hudson Yards to Open in March

Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:20 am

A new restaurant in New York City, called the Peak will open on the 101st floor of 30 Hudson Yards on March 12. The views from the 10,000 square foot restaurant are spectacular, though there is not much known about food and drink offerings. The restaurant sit's one floor above the Edge observation deck that will open a day before and also offer panoramic views of New York. The 110 seat dining room and 45 seat bar were designed by renowned architect, David Rockwell and will be operated by the London based Rhubarb Hospitality Collection. Chris Cryer has been tapped to lead the kitchen and is expected to roll out a modern American menu. Peak will join a number of other high restaurants with spectacular views of New York, including the Rainbow Room at Rockefeller Center on the 65th floor of 30 Rock, Danny Myer's Manhatta on the 60th floor of a building in Fidi, and The View Restaurant and Lounge on the 47th and 48th floors of the Marriott Marquis at Times Square. Door years before 9/11, the most notable restaurant with a view in New York was Windows on the World on the 107th floor of the North Tower of the World Trade Center. Guests with dining reservations at the Peak can also access the Edge observation deck after their dining experience. It is a very exciting restaurant that I feel will become very successful, along with the Edge at Hudson Yards.
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Re: Hard Rock Hotel in Las Vegas Closing

Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:40 am

ArchGuy1 wrote:
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For what it's worth, I heard some reasonable-sounding speculation that the Hard Rock might reopen in one of the on-strip properties that have been changing hands recently in Las Vegas. Since the Hard Rock is currently way, way, way, (literally three blocks) off-strip, that could only be an improvement.

Or it could be complete and total BS/wishful thinking. Depends on if the "powers that be" that own the franchise think their bottom line will ultimately be enhanced more by upping their game a notch and going whole hog or by pulling out of the Vegas market completely. Time will tell.

The standalone Hard Rock Cafe at the hotel is being demolished.


I was referring to the casino & hotel, though if a new one opened on the strip it would most likely include a version of the cafe as well. I've never read a review of a Hard Rock Cafe's food that was better than "meh" anyway, so if an entire casino & hotel is built with the same theme the cafe normally has then would the cafe even be necessary at that location?

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Re: Hard Rock Hotel in Las Vegas Closing

Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:04 am

Aren't all these posts supposed to be in one thread dedicated to them?
 
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Re: Hard Rock Hotel in Las Vegas Closing

Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:17 am

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Aren't all these posts supposed to be in one thread dedicated to them?


Yes, hence I have moved them accordingly.
 
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Re: (Famous) Cities / Places / Sights Questions and Discussion Thread - 2020

Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:53 am

The Skywalk Observatory and the Top of the Hub Restaurant near the top of the Prudential Tower in Boston are shutting down after being open since 1965. The Top of the Hub Restaurant is located on the 52nd floor and has breathtaking views, pricey meals, and a romantic ambiance. The Skywalk Observatory on the 50th floor also provides spectacular views with an admission fee of $21. The decision was made after the owners of the Prudential Tower, Boston Properties decided not to renew the lease of the observation deck and restaurant by Select Restaurants, Inc which actually operates both attractions. Boston Properties is planning a design for a new observatory at the top of the Prudential Tower that will provide a world class experience for visitors to Boston. It will be sad to see the observation deck and restaurant of the Prudential Tower being shut down for a while as work takes place on a new observatory experience that hopefully will be even more well known.
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Re: (Famous) Cities / Places / Sights Questions and Discussion Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:43 am

The Empire State Building in New York City has undergone a $165 million, four year renovation to improve the experience for the tens of thousands of visitors that come through every day. One of the purposes of the renovation was to reduce the wait time for visitors, allowing them to see multiple exhibits rather than simply wait for an elevator. Visitors enter through a new lobby on 34th Street and then go up a grand staircase that takes them to a second floor museum where they are exhibits on the building's history. Then, visitors take an elevator to the 80th floor that features interactive experiences for guests as they pass through. Visitors encounter views from windows 1,000 feet up and also kiosks that provides tourists with an itinerary of things to do in New York and serve suggestions based on their length of stay and their personal preferences. A series of viewfinders are then found, each with a 360 degree video shot in a different location of the city like Central Park, the Brooklyn Bridge, and Grand Central Terminal and visitors can pan through immersive representations of city landmarks visible from the building. Guests then ascend to the main observation deck on the 86th floor and those visiting the 102nd floor then board another elevator. The 102nd floor reopened in October after 10 months of renovations and the biggest change is the openness that the floor offers. The previous windows have been replaced by floor to ceiling glass with minimal framework that provides unobstructed views. It is a very nice renovation that will improve the experiences of visitors to the Empire State Building and is something that anyone should experience.
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Re: Hard Rock Hotel in Las Vegas Closing

Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:23 am

TSS wrote:
For what it's worth, I heard some reasonable-sounding speculation that the Hard Rock might reopen in one of the on-strip properties that have been changing hands recently in Las Vegas. Since the Hard Rock is currently way, way, way, (literally three blocks) off-strip, that could only be an improvement.

Or it could be complete and total BS/wishful thinking. Depends on if the "powers that be" that own the franchise think their bottom line will ultimately be enhanced more by upping their game a notch and going whole hog or by pulling out of the Vegas market completely. Time will tell.

The Stratosphere Tower is one Las Vegas landmark that I do not want to see demolished as it is an iconic symbol of Las Vegas in the same way the Space Needle is for Seattle or the Eiffel Tower is for Paris. This is especially true with Las Vegas having a history of demolishing old hotels and casinos.
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Re: Hard Rock Hotel in Las Vegas Closing

Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:34 am

ArchGuy1 wrote:
TSS wrote:
For what it's worth, I heard some reasonable-sounding speculation that the Hard Rock might reopen in one of the on-strip properties that have been changing hands recently in Las Vegas. Since the Hard Rock is currently way, way, way, (literally three blocks) off-strip, that could only be an improvement.

Or it could be complete and total BS/wishful thinking. Depends on if the "powers that be" that own the franchise think their bottom line will ultimately be enhanced more by upping their game a notch and going whole hog or by pulling out of the Vegas market completely. Time will tell.

The Stratosphere Tower is one Las Vegas landmark that I do not want to see demolished as it is an iconic symbol of Las Vegas in the same way the Space Needle is for Seattle or the Eiffel Tower is for Las Vegas. This is especially true with Las Vegas having a history of demolishing old hotels and casinos.


At the same time, Vegas has done a terrible job at maintaining their old structures. It becomes an impossible task to make a "luxury" resort out of these structures. The stratosphere I've heard is in terrible shape. Also, did you mean the Eiffel tower in Vegas or in France? Because both exist...
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Re: Hard Rock Hotel in Las Vegas Closing

Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:37 am

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ArchGuy1 wrote:
TSS wrote:
For what it's worth, I heard some reasonable-sounding speculation that the Hard Rock might reopen in one of the on-strip properties that have been changing hands recently in Las Vegas. Since the Hard Rock is currently way, way, way, (literally three blocks) off-strip, that could only be an improvement.

Or it could be complete and total BS/wishful thinking. Depends on if the "powers that be" that own the franchise think their bottom line will ultimately be enhanced more by upping their game a notch and going whole hog or by pulling out of the Vegas market completely. Time will tell.

The Stratosphere Tower is one Las Vegas landmark that I do not want to see demolished as it is an iconic symbol of Las Vegas in the same way the Space Needle is for Seattle or the Eiffel Tower is for Las Vegas. This is especially true with Las Vegas having a history of demolishing old hotels and casinos.


At the same time, Vegas has done a terrible job at maintaining their old structures. It becomes an impossible task to make a "luxury" resort out of these structures. The stratosphere I've heard is in terrible shape. Also, did you mean the Eiffel tower in Vegas or in France? Because both exist...

I mean the Eiffel Tower in Paris.
 
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Re: Hard Rock Hotel in Las Vegas Closing

Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:25 am

ArchGuy1 wrote:
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For what it's worth, I heard some reasonable-sounding speculation that the Hard Rock might reopen in one of the on-strip properties that have been changing hands recently in Las Vegas. Since the Hard Rock is currently way, way, way, (literally three blocks) off-strip, that could only be an improvement.

Or it could be complete and total BS/wishful thinking. Depends on if the "powers that be" that own the franchise think their bottom line will ultimately be enhanced more by upping their game a notch and going whole hog or by pulling out of the Vegas market completely. Time will tell.


The Stratosphere Tower is one Las Vegas landmark that I do not want to see demolished as it is an iconic symbol of Las Vegas in the same way the Space Needle is for Seattle or the Eiffel Tower is for Paris. This is especially true with Las Vegas having a history of demolishing old hotels and casinos.


I could argue both sides of the Stratosphere Tower's "iconic" status in Las Vegas, but the fact remains that the location of the Stratosphere has been bad from the day it was built. Also, in Las Vegas "iconic" and "profitable" are totally unrelated but not mutually exclusive terms. The round tower at The Sands was iconic, but it was torn down without a second thought. The Landmark Hotel's tower became iconic after being featured in Diamonds Are Forever (even though the hotel itself was closed at the time of filming) and it's iconic status was cemented when footage of it's demolition was used in Mars Attacks!, but it lost money every single day it was open due to bad location. The sign at The Dunes was iconic, but it was destroyed along with the hotel it advertised in a spectacularly theatrical show put on by Steve Wynn.

Las Vegas is in serious turmoil right now with no stability in sight: Riviera- gone, Sahara- sold, renamed & remodeled, closed, back open as Sahara, Circus Circus- sold, several MGM properties have been sold on "leaseback" deals to raise cash, and on the former site of the Stardust a major casino has sat about a quarter of the way built and then abandoned for years. All bets are off as to what comes next.
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Re: Hard Rock Hotel in Las Vegas Closing

Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:47 am

TSS wrote:
ArchGuy1 wrote:
TSS wrote:
For what it's worth, I heard some reasonable-sounding speculation that the Hard Rock might reopen in one of the on-strip properties that have been changing hands recently in Las Vegas. Since the Hard Rock is currently way, way, way, (literally three blocks) off-strip, that could only be an improvement.

Or it could be complete and total BS/wishful thinking. Depends on if the "powers that be" that own the franchise think their bottom line will ultimately be enhanced more by upping their game a notch and going whole hog or by pulling out of the Vegas market completely. Time will tell.


The Stratosphere Tower is one Las Vegas landmark that I do not want to see demolished as it is an iconic symbol of Las Vegas in the same way the Space Needle is for Seattle or the Eiffel Tower is for Paris. This is especially true with Las Vegas having a history of demolishing old hotels and casinos.


I could argue both sides of the Stratosphere Tower's "iconic" status in Las Vegas, but the fact remains that the location of the Stratosphere has been bad from the day it was built. Also, in Las Vegas "iconic" and "profitable" are totally unrelated but not mutually exclusive terms. The round tower at The Sands was iconic, but it was torn down without a second thought. The Landmark Hotel's tower became iconic after being featured in Diamonds Are Forever (even though the hotel itself was closed at the time of filming) and it's iconic status was cemented when footage of it's demolition was used in Mars Attacks!, but it lost money every single day it was open due to bad location. The sign at The Dunes was iconic, but it was destroyed along with the hotel it advertised in a spectacularly theatrical show put on by Steve Wynn.

Las Vegas is in serious turmoil right now with no stability in sight: Riviera- gone, Sahara- sold, renamed & remodeled, closed, back open as Sahara, Circus Circus- sold, several MGM properties have been sold on "leaseback" deals to raise cash, and on the former site of the Stardust a major casino has sat about a quarter of the way built and then abandoned for years. All bets are off as to what comes next.


Vegas was positioning itself to be a major Chinese tourist destination but a series of events have derailed that a bit. They were hoping for a full revival off of chinese gambling habits.
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Re: Hard Rock Hotel in Las Vegas Closing

Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:20 pm

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For what it's worth, I heard some reasonable-sounding speculation that the Hard Rock might reopen in one of the on-strip properties that have been changing hands recently in Las Vegas. Since the Hard Rock is currently way, way, way, (literally three blocks) off-strip, that could only be an improvement.

Or it could be complete and total BS/wishful thinking. Depends on if the "powers that be" that own the franchise think their bottom line will ultimately be enhanced more by upping their game a notch and going whole hog or by pulling out of the Vegas market completely. Time will tell.

The Stratosphere Tower is one Las Vegas landmark that I do not want to see demolished as it is an iconic symbol of Las Vegas in the same way the Space Needle is for Seattle or the Eiffel Tower is for Las Vegas. This is especially true with Las Vegas having a history of demolishing old hotels and casinos.


At the same time, Vegas has done a terrible job at maintaining their old structures. It becomes an impossible task to make a "luxury" resort out of these structures. The stratosphere I've heard is in terrible shape. Also, did you mean the Eiffel tower in Vegas or in France? Because both exist...

It is also sad to know that the Skywalk Observatory and Top of the Hub Restaurant at the top of the Prudential Tower in Boston are closing in April.
 
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Bell Tower of Riverside Church in New York City Reopened to Tours

Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:46 pm

The bell tower of Riverside Church in New York City has been reopened to public tours for the first time since the attacks on 9/11. The church is 90 years old and the tower is 392 feet tall with a 365 foot elevator shaft and the tower also contains the 20 ton Bourdon Bell, which is the largest in the world. Tours up the tower include an elevator ride and 145 steps to the top where visitors can see the carillon, which is made up of 74 bells. The views from the top, 64 floors above sea level are spectacular and bell tower tours operate Wednesday-Saturday at 1 pm. It is nice to see an old observation point in New York City reopened to the public and this joins the ranks of the Empire State Building, 30 Rock, Freedom Tower, and Statue of Liberty as an observation point for New York City.
https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/ne ... urs-return
 
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One Za'abeel in Dubai

Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:21 am

One Za'abeel is a mixed use project in Dubai positioned between the old and new business districts with offices, hotels, residences, and retail across the two towers. One tower will rise 984 feet with the other tower rising 770 feet and they will be linked by the world's largest cantilever. The cantilever is called The Link and will be a panoramic sky concourse 328 feet in the air with attractions, restaurants, an observation deck, and lounges, along with a rooftop pool and terrace. At the ground level, the Galley will offer a range of high end retail and leisure experiences across a three story podium. There will be 497 hotel rooms across luxury and ultra luxury hospitality offerings and will provide retreats for Dubai's business community and leisure travel and 263 residences will offer a mix of luxury single units and duplexes. Th He offices will be spread across 40,000 square feet and be flexible enough to house the headquarters of multinational companies or local business houses. The project is being designed by Nikken Sekkei and developed by Ithra Dubai with a completion date planned for 2021. It is a revolutionary project that will win architectural awards.
https://www.bdcnetwork.com/dubai’s-one-za’abeel-will-have-world’s-largest-cantilever
 
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Art Deco Mill in Southampton, England to be Demolished

Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:11 am

The Solent Flour Mills at the Western Docks in Southampton, England is scheduled to be demolished under permitted redevelopment rights. The mill was built on reclaimed land back in the 1930's and Historic England turned down an application to have it listed back in May. City Counciller Sarah Bogle and the Twentieth Century Society are trying to stop the demolition and find a way to repurpose the building. Demolition work would begin in three weeks and take about 40 weeks to complete. The flour mill is indeed a landmark building that should be preserved as it is an iconic structure for Southampton and adaptive reuse would be a better alternative than demolition.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hampshire-51264989
 
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Re: Art Deco Mill in Southampton, England to be Demolished

Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:46 am

1. The mill IS NOT Art Deco. The only style it has is 1930s Industrial, which shares the design elements of straight lines and right angles with Art Deco because buildings are easier to build that way. Art Deco is also typified by strong horizontal motifs and rounded corners, of which this building has none. Just because this building was built when the Art Deco style was popular does not mean it is of that style.

2. It is a former flour mill that has outlived it's usefulness in an area where there is apparently quite a bit of redevelopment going on.

3. 80 or 90 years is nothing for a building in the UK. I suspect long-term local residents might refer to it as "the new mill" even today.

4. The photo in the article was very carefully framed to only show the marginally attractive part of the structure. The rest of it looks very much like a typical industrial mill and is devoid of architectural merit.
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Re: Art Deco Mill in Southampton, England to be Demolished

Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:02 pm

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3. 80 or 90 years is nothing for a building in the UK. I suspect long-term local residents might refer to it as "the new mill" even today.


Undoubtedly one of my favorite things about the UK (and most of Europe) is getting local directions via Landmarks.

“Oh you’ll just keep going straight until you reach the new church, then bear right by the patch of bushes.

Only to find that the “New church” was built in 1870, and the patch of bushes has been gone since 1970.
 
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Re: (Famous) Cities / Places / Sights Questions and Discussion Thread - 2020

Sun Feb 02, 2020 12:12 am

The opening of the Ain Dubai observation wheel on Bluewaters Island in Dubai will coincide with the opening of Expo 2020 in October 22, 2020. The attraction has a height of 250 metres (820 feet) and will carry up to 1,920 people at a time with 360 degree views of Dubai. It is a great attraction that will become Dubai's next iconic landmark alongside existing landmarks like the Burj Khalifa and the Burj al Arab.
https://blooloop.com/news/ain-dubai-ope ... 020-dubai/
 
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Re: Art Deco Mill in Southampton, England to be Demolished

Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:47 am

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1. The mill IS NOT Art Deco. The only style it has is 1930s Industrial, which shares the design elements of straight lines and right angles with Art Deco because buildings are easier to build that way. Art Deco is also typified by strong horizontal motifs and rounded corners, of which this building has none. Just because this building was built when the Art Deco style was popular does not mean it is of that style.

2. It is a former flour mill that has outlived it's usefulness in an area where there is apparently quite a bit of redevelopment going on.

3. 80 or 90 years is nothing for a building in the UK. I suspect long-term local residents might refer to it as "the new mill" even today.

4. The photo in the article was very carefully framed to only show the marginally attractive part of the structure. The rest of it looks very much like a typical industrial mill and is devoid of architectural merit.

What do the Empire State Building and Chrysler Building have going for them that warrants their preservation.
 
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Re: Art Deco Mill in Southampton, England to be Demolished

Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:46 am

ArchGuy1 wrote:
TSS wrote:
1. The mill IS NOT Art Deco. The only style it has is 1930s Industrial, which shares the design elements of straight lines and right angles with Art Deco because buildings are easier to build that way. Art Deco is also typified by strong horizontal motifs and rounded corners, of which this building has none. Just because this building was built when the Art Deco style was popular does not mean it is of that style.

2. It is a former flour mill that has outlived it's usefulness in an area where there is apparently quite a bit of redevelopment going on.

3. 80 or 90 years is nothing for a building in the UK. I suspect long-term local residents might refer to it as "the new mill" even today.

4. The photo in the article was very carefully framed to only show the marginally attractive part of the structure. The rest of it looks very much like a typical industrial mill and is devoid of architectural merit.


What do the Empire State Building and Chrysler Building have going for them that warrants their preservation.


That is a good enough question that I am going to temporarily overlook your continuing refusal to use a question mark to denote sentences as questions despite my repeated requests that you do so.

1. Both have been continuously in use since they were built and are used for the same purpose for which they were originally designed, office buildings, so with them there's no question of "Can we take this building and turn it in to a very compromised version of something it was never intended to be just to keep it from being torn down?".

2. Both are genuine landmarks and are emblematic of the city in which they are located.

3. One (possibly both) held the record for "World's Tallest Building" (I think the Chrysler Building held that record for a very short time before the Empire State Building was completed), a bit of history that relates to the actual building(s), not just to an event that occurred in the building(s).

4. Both are architecturally unique and most if not all of their original decorative elements remain intact and undisturbed, i.e. nobody got the hare-brained idea to strip away and discard all their trim in a misguided effort to make them look more "modern" as happened to and ruined so many other architecturally noteworthy buildings during the 50s and 60s.
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Re: Art Deco Mill in Southampton, England to be Demolished

Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:10 am

TSS wrote:
ArchGuy1 wrote:
TSS wrote:
1. The mill IS NOT Art Deco. The only style it has is 1930s Industrial, which shares the design elements of straight lines and right angles with Art Deco because buildings are easier to build that way. Art Deco is also typified by strong horizontal motifs and rounded corners, of which this building has none. Just because this building was built when the Art Deco style was popular does not mean it is of that style.

2. It is a former flour mill that has outlived it's usefulness in an area where there is apparently quite a bit of redevelopment going on.

3. 80 or 90 years is nothing for a building in the UK. I suspect long-term local residents might refer to it as "the new mill" even today.

4. The photo in the article was very carefully framed to only show the marginally attractive part of the structure. The rest of it looks very much like a typical industrial mill and is devoid of architectural merit.


What do the Empire State Building and Chrysler Building have going for them that warrants their preservation.


That is a good enough question that I am going to temporarily overlook your continuing refusal to use a question mark to denote sentences as questions despite my repeated requests that you do so.

1. Both have been continuously in use since they were built and are used for the same purpose for which they were originally designed, office buildings, so with them there's no question of "Can we take this building and turn it in to a very compromised version of something it was never intended to be just to keep it from being torn down?".

2. Both are genuine landmarks and are emblematic of the city in which they are located.

3. One (possibly both) held the record for "World's Tallest Building" (I think the Chrysler Building held that record for a very short time before the Empire State Building was completed), a bit of history that relates to the actual building(s), not just to an event that occurred in the building(s).

4. Both are architecturally unique and most if not all of their original decorative elements remain intact and undisturbed, i.e. nobody got the hare-brained idea to strip away and discard all their trim in a misguided effort to make them look more "modern" as happened to and ruined so many other architecturally noteworthy buildings during the 50s and 60s.

Both the Chrysler Building and the Empire State Building are in New York City.
 
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Re: Art Deco Mill in Southampton, England to be Demolished

Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:16 am

ArchGuy1 wrote:
TSS wrote:
ArchGuy1 wrote:

What do the Empire State Building and Chrysler Building have going for them that warrants their preservation.


That is a good enough question that I am going to temporarily overlook your continuing refusal to use a question mark to denote sentences as questions despite my repeated requests that you do so.

1. Both have been continuously in use since they were built and are used for the same purpose for which they were originally designed, office buildings, so with them there's no question of "Can we take this building and turn it in to a very compromised version of something it was never intended to be just to keep it from being torn down?".

2. Both are genuine landmarks and are emblematic of the city in which they are located.

3. One (possibly both) held the record for "World's Tallest Building" (I think the Chrysler Building held that record for a very short time before the Empire State Building was completed), a bit of history that relates to the actual building(s), not just to an event that occurred in the building(s).

4. Both are architecturally unique and most if not all of their original decorative elements remain intact and undisturbed, i.e. nobody got the hare-brained idea to strip away and discard all their trim in a misguided effort to make them look more "modern" as happened to and ruined so many other architecturally noteworthy buildings during the 50s and 60s.


Both the Chrysler Building and the Empire State Building are in New York City.


Yes they are, as are the Statue Of Liberty and the Brooklyn Bridge. All are genuine landmarks, and just like a car, a city can have more than one emblem.
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Re: Art Deco Mill in Southampton, England to be Demolished

Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:21 am

TSS wrote:
ArchGuy1 wrote:
TSS wrote:

That is a good enough question that I am going to temporarily overlook your continuing refusal to use a question mark to denote sentences as questions despite my repeated requests that you do so.

1. Both have been continuously in use since they were built and are used for the same purpose for which they were originally designed, office buildings, so with them there's no question of "Can we take this building and turn it in to a very compromised version of something it was never intended to be just to keep it from being torn down?".

2. Both are genuine landmarks and are emblematic of the city in which they are located.

3. One (possibly both) held the record for "World's Tallest Building" (I think the Chrysler Building held that record for a very short time before the Empire State Building was completed), a bit of history that relates to the actual building(s), not just to an event that occurred in the building(s).

4. Both are architecturally unique and most if not all of their original decorative elements remain intact and undisturbed, i.e. nobody got the hare-brained idea to strip away and discard all their trim in a misguided effort to make them look more "modern" as happened to and ruined so many other architecturally noteworthy buildings during the 50s and 60s.


Both the Chrysler Building and the Empire State Building are in New York City.


Yes they are, as are the Statue Of Liberty and the Brooklyn Bridge. All are genuine landmarks, and just like a car, a city can have more than one emblem.

The Twin Towers were also genuine landmarks of New York before 9/11 and Times Square is also a genuine landmark for the city.
 
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Re: Art Deco Mill in Southampton, England to be Demolished

Tue Feb 04, 2020 8:25 am

ArchGuy1 wrote:
TSS wrote:
ArchGuy1 wrote:
Both the Chrysler Building and the Empire State Building are in New York City.


Yes they are, as are the Statue Of Liberty and the Brooklyn Bridge. All are genuine landmarks, and just like a car, a city can have more than one emblem.


The Twin Towers were also genuine landmarks of New York before 9/11 and Times Square is also a genuine landmark for the city.


The Twin towers, yes... Times Square, much less so. With no vehicles visible and just one or two NYC-specific signs removed or blurred out, Times Square could be any number of advertising saturated, brightly lit downtown areas around the world. I don't doubt New Yorkers would recognize it instantly, but we non-New Yorkers would have to look closely for location clues.

It's the same with the film The Gingerbread Man for me: I instantly recognized the road Kenneth Branagh's character was driving on in the opening credits and knew that it did not lead to the bridge he crosses as the credits end, plus I noticed the ramp where he and the female lead discover her car has been stolen was not an actual ramp but was instead a very cleverly constructed set on a soundstage. The vast majority of people would never have caught these things, but someone who has spent time in and around Savannah would notice them right off the bat.
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Re: Art Deco Mill in Southampton, England to be Demolished

Tue Feb 04, 2020 8:31 pm

TSS wrote:
ArchGuy1 wrote:
TSS wrote:
1. The mill IS NOT Art Deco. The only style it has is 1930s Industrial, which shares the design elements of straight lines and right angles with Art Deco because buildings are easier to build that way. Art Deco is also typified by strong horizontal motifs and rounded corners, of which this building has none. Just because this building was built when the Art Deco style was popular does not mean it is of that style.

2. It is a former flour mill that has outlived it's usefulness in an area where there is apparently quite a bit of redevelopment going on.

3. 80 or 90 years is nothing for a building in the UK. I suspect long-term local residents might refer to it as "the new mill" even today.

4. The photo in the article was very carefully framed to only show the marginally attractive part of the structure. The rest of it looks very much like a typical industrial mill and is devoid of architectural merit.


What do the Empire State Building and Chrysler Building have going for them that warrants their preservation.


That is a good enough question that I am going to temporarily overlook your continuing refusal to use a question mark to denote sentences as questions despite my repeated requests that you do so.

1. Both have been continuously in use since they were built and are used for the same purpose for which they were originally designed, office buildings, so with them there's no question of "Can we take this building and turn it in to a very compromised version of something it was never intended to be just to keep it from being torn down?".

2. Both are genuine landmarks and are emblematic of the city in which they are located.

3. One (possibly both) held the record for "World's Tallest Building" (I think the Chrysler Building held that record for a very short time before the Empire State Building was completed), a bit of history that relates to the actual building(s), not just to an event that occurred in the building(s).

4. Both are architecturally unique and most if not all of their original decorative elements remain intact and undisturbed, i.e. nobody got the hare-brained idea to strip away and discard all their trim in a misguided effort to make them look more "modern" as happened to and ruined so many other architecturally noteworthy buildings during the 50s and 60s.

The Empire State Building recently underwent a major renovation that revamped the whole Observatory experience.
 
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Re: (Famous) Cities / Places / Sights Questions and Discussion Thread - 2020

Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:32 am

Last June, a 10 story high ferris wheel debuted at the Bay Beach Amusement Park in Green Bay, Wisconsin and rides cost 75 cents a person. It is a very exciting addition for visitors already visiting the Bay Beach Amuseument Park.
https://www.nbc15.com/content/news/Ten- ... 32051.html
 
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Re: (Famous) Cities / Places / Sights Questions and Discussion Thread - 2020

Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:44 am

The Mumbai Eye is planned to be the tallest observation wheel in Mumbai and planned to be built near the Bandra-Worli Sea Link at the toll point on the Bandra side. The proposal is modeled after the London Eye and a development plan is being worked on for the project. The Mumbai Eye would join other attractions in Mumbai like the Gateway to India and the Taj Mahal Palace Hotel as a major landmark and tourist attraction for Mumbai. An observation wheel in Mumbai would be beneficial because it would provide an observation point for the public to view the city.
https://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/mum ... 283253.cms
 
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Re: (Famous) Cities / Places / Sights Questions and Discussion Thread - 2020

Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:59 am

Over the holidays, some jerk stole the only tree in the smallest park in the world

https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2019/1 ... -down.html
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