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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:47 pm

TK announced that DUB-IST is suspended until further notice all flights cancelled.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:28 pm

There is a video posted on Al Jazeera news of a TK flight to sudan that was cancelled and some passengers throwing a fit, making unruly demands and being hostile towards the ground staff. They were refusing to disembark the plane eventhough they were offered a hotel and food accomodation. These people should get banned from traveling in the future.
 
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Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:16 pm

Can someone confirm that half of IST Terminal is being closed due to low traffic?
Has anyone flown on TK or Pegasus domestically recently to report on the loads. Thank you.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:12 pm

Both Emirates and Etihad will be temporarily suspending IST.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:42 am

TK offering unpaid leave to its employees. The TK chairman said that no one will be fired. But I highly doubt that...
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:33 pm

Attention, long post incoming :spin:

SMKCosmopolitan wrote:
emre787 wrote:
SMKCosmopolitan wrote:

I presume all itineraries from the affected countries via Istanbul will be cancelled. My wife and I are booked on DUS-IST-MRU flights and have just received a notification of "booking changes" with a request to call them. Unfortunately, upon calling the call center number my phone states "caller busy" and hangs up automatically.

Does anyone know a TK number to call 24/7?


Just wait some days until the situation will calm down. TK stated that their call centres all around the world now receive 5 times more calls than before...

I'm in the same situation right now and I'll try to call them in 2 days at earliest


Many thanks for your reply Emre. FYI - I have been able to call them yesterday after a waiting time of approximately 20min. Just make sure to call them back in case the call will hang up automatically (I had to do that ~20 times until it worked!). They have given me a full refund for the tickets which will be transferred back to my credit card within 2-7 working days.

In the meantime I have booked new flights to Mauritius with Air France - fingers crossed ;)


You're welcome! :D I still have about two weeks until my actual flight would have gone because of which I will still wait some days until I call them. I'm chilled because TK CEO announced that everyone affected can make changes or get a full refund. And as wee see it worked for you :bouncy:

SQ789 wrote:
OTTOMANAIR wrote:
How big will this impact from the corona virus be? Do you think the Turkish aviation market will recover quick? Or do you think it will take some time. I was pretty surprised that TK was able to recover really fast after disaster year 2016.

I think. But back in 2016, TK has seen much fallout that year after 10+ terrorist attack in the country back in that year. TK has seen much improvement since 2018 despite the MAX fiasco. As for now, TK needs to put some of it's leased (not owned by TK) aircraft back to lessor quickly than planned as the COVID-19 further hit global tourism mainly in Europe. Now 6 A332 is being stored ahead of it's early returned to lessor along with their only 737-700 (TC-JKO). Will see the other leased aircraft leaving soon.


I thought that JKO was already being prepared for some time to be sent back to it's lessor. Last flight was 28 Nov 2019 according to FR24, I'm glad that I could catch a flight with her back in 2018. She climbed like a rocket :)

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According to the TK website, the A350 seems to no longer be scheduled on routes after 12th June at all... including routes to LHR and DXB. Does anyone know if this is a coronavirus response measure, if they're having issues or if they've delayed delivery of the type?


From what I know they don't expect the virus to last that long as it, supposedly, can't cope with summer heat. My guess is that this has to do with something else.

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The first A350 for TK has taken flight https://www.flickr.com/photos/bycac/49654528561/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/bycac/496 ... otostream/ photo from Clement Alloing on flickr.


Delivery of the A350 has been posponed until further notice. She will be flown to Germany for temporary storage.

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Can someone confirm that half of IST Terminal is being closed due to low traffic?
Has anyone flown on TK or Pegasus domestically recently to report on the loads. Thank you.


Unfortunately I don't have a screenshot but @jhbspotter on Instagram flew out of IST lately and he showed the closures in his story... His 77W to MIA was really empty.
Would also be very interested on the loads if someone is flying!

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Also some other news:

Value-added Tax (VAT) has been reduced on domestic flights from 18% to 1% for at least 3 months.

https://www.kamubulteni.com/ekonomi/uca ... 21601.html

Istanbul Airports is now offering free parking to anyone until a second announcement, nice gesture imo

https://www.milliyet.com.tr/ekonomi/cor ... ak-6169525

Also at IST and SAW airport staff is installing red lines on waiting lines to help people keep a distance of 1 meter (or more I think) to other people around. Let's see if other airports around the world will catch up this idea

https://www.milliyet.com.tr/gundem/ista ... si-6166741

And lastly, now everyone flying to/from Istanbul Airport and all pax who only transfer are being controlled on their body temperatures with thermal cameras.
Already more than 4,6 Million pax have been screened until now.

(Couldn't find the source, sorry)
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:43 am

TK787 wrote:
Can someone confirm that half of IST Terminal is being closed due to low traffic?
Thank you.


Yes this is true news. They have shut down Passenger Bridge (Jetway) ops at C & E sections (4 gates each), completely for Piers D & F (here 3 gates were recently serving domestic), starting at 00:00 hours on the 19th.

On the Departures Level, only Doors 1 (for domestic) and 4 & 5 (for international) are operating for entering the terminal and 1st X-Ray Security Control. See the link below, where the Terminal plan is divided into Red & Green areas. Red shaded areas are the temporarily suspended areas.

http://wowturkey.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 60#7631760
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:47 am

Thank you for all the answers.
Like I said earlier, in the last week I flew UA Newark-Houston-Santiago, Chile both flights J class full, Y class 10-20%.
On the return, I flew LATAM Santiago-Bogota and UA Bogota-Newark. LATAM 787-8 had less than 30 pax, UA flight to EWR was full on a 737-7.
Both SCL and BOG had screenings, people with masks, filling out questionnaires and such and not crowded.
To my surprise, EWR was empty but not a whole lot of masks, no one checking our temps. They sent my luggage to agricultural Xray check to look for seeds, food, plants and such. Strange.
This is getting really bad.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Fri Mar 20, 2020 12:29 pm

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They sent my luggage to agricultural Xray check to look for seeds, food, plants and such. Strange.


Probably coming from BOG, they are screening for some other stuff.
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Fri Mar 20, 2020 12:44 pm

Looking at Flightradar24, I can see around 110 TK jets flying around the world at the moment. The usual number is around 190+ on a more normal day, during normal times. Close to 20 of them are Cargo flights.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:04 pm

Pegasus' general manager spoke to Bloomberg.

https://www.bloomberght.com/konuk/video ... -var/63494
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:50 am

Turkey today confirms more COVID-19 cases today rising to nearly 400. Does it mean that TK and others further cutting more flights? TK just suspends flight to Somalia and other countries around the world.
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:41 am

I wonder if we might see Turkey close all or most of its airports like many countries around Europe have done. I think that's the fastest way to contain the disease. I think Turkey has a similar issue to Serbia, many Turks who work in Germany, Austria, Sweden... have returned 'home' and were not properly tested which meant they went around spreading the virus. There was this woman in Montenegro who was infected and in one day she attended both a wedding and a funeral. God knows how many she infected there alone.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:19 pm

Today (a few hours back), Civil Aviation Authority of Turkey [SHGM] closed all passenger flights to quite a number of international destinations. Not too many countries now left remaining. Presently "allowed" countries remain as USA, Cuba, Venezuela, Brasil, Argentina, Singapore, Mexico, Hong Kong, Pakistan, Turkmenistan, Qatar, Bahrein, Russia, Belarus, Serbia, Bosnia, Albania, South Africa, Nigeria and several more in Europe, Africa & Asia. But even if no prohibitions may take place in future, it's pretty much debatable what the load factors for these remaining destinations will be...
I'm afraid this list will grow within soon (esp. if Covid-19 cases start to increase dramatically in Turkey).

There are signs that a curfew may be announced within soon (limited maybe... but surely to be valid in major metropoles like Istanbul, Ankara & Izmir). Most of the shopping malls in these big towns have closed down totally. In case there are pharmacies and supermarkets in these malls, only these will (may) remain open. Most shops in the major districts and streets (non-food ones) have also closed down for sanitary or logistics issues. These now include barber shops, hair dressers and beauty parlors. Food catering restaurants holding alcohol serving licence are also closed... It will also be pretty difficult to buy a cup of coffee, as all Starbucks, Coffee World type chains have already closed down. Similar case (with some exceptions I've seen but may not remain for eternity) for the fast food chains.

The list of the now prohibited states are listed below -- sorry, it is in Turkish but you should figure out the untranslated countries. A few of these destinations are actually not served by any Turkish flag carriers.

1 Almanya (Germany)
2 Angola
3 Avusturya
4 Azerbaycan
5 Bangladeş
6 Belçika
7 Birleşik Arap Emirlikleri (U.A.E.)
8 Birleşik Krallık (U.K.)
9 Cezayir (Algeria)
10 Cibuti
11 Çad
12 Çekya (Czech Rep.)
13 Çin (P.R.C.)
14 Danimarka
15 Dominik
16 Ekvator
17 Ekvator Ginesi
18 Fas (Morocco)
19 Fildişi Sahili (Ivory Coast)
20 Filipinler
21 Finlandiya
22 Fransa
23 Guatemala
24 Güney Kore (South Korea)
25 Gürcistan (Georgia)
26 Hindistan (India)
27 Hollanda
28 Irak
29 İran
30 İrlanda
31 İspanya (Spain)
32 İsveç (Sweeden)
33 İsviçre (Switzerland)
34 İtalya
35 Kamerun
36 Kanada
37 Karadağ (Montenegro)
38 Kazakistan
39 Kenya
40 KKTC (Northern Cyprus Turkish Rep.)
41 Kolombiya
42 Kosova
43 Kuveyt
44 Kuzey Makedonya
45 Letonya
46 Lübnan (Lebanon)
47 Macaristan (Hungary)
48 Mısır (Egypt)
49 Moğolistan
50 Moldova
51 Moritanya
52 Nepal
53 Nijer
54 Norveç (Norway)
55 Özbekistan
56 Panama
57 Peru
58 Polonya (Poland)
59 Portekiz
60 Slovenya
61 Sri Lanka
62 Sudan
63 Suudi Arabistan (KSA)
64 Tayvan (Taiwan)
65 Tunus
66 Ukrayna (Ukraine)
67 Umman
68 Ürdün (Jordan)

Last minute news: Cuba is also going to shut down (for at least a month's period) and needs the urgent evacuation of some 60.000 tourists in the country.
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Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:04 pm

I wonder why 64 Taiwan (with very low infected numbers) on the list but not USA. I am not even sure how 57 Peru made the list.
 
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Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:23 pm

And now ONUR Air stops operations, I wonder what will happen to Pegasus.
We all know the government will always keep TK afloat, (fingers crossed)
 
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Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:26 pm

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I wonder why 64 Taiwan (with very low infected numbers) on the list but not USA. I am not even sure how 57 Peru made the list.


As well as Guatemela...??? Maybe due to some bilateral agreements.

I also don't see Malaysia & Thailand as very safe (potentially) countries but currently they are on the green list. As for Taiwan, the request may have come from the other side. Remember that recently a Taiwanese tourist group who made a lot of traveling in Europe + Turkey (possibly Istanbul was their last destination...) was found Covid-19 positive!
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Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:27 pm

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And now ONUR Air stops operations, I wonder what will happen to Pegasus.
We all know the government will always keep TK afloat, (fingers crossed)

Onur will stop until next week and there will a second decision next week if it will continue or not.
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Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:27 pm

With Coronavirus in Turkey nears 1,000 now. How many TK planes needs to be grounded for much more lower of travels?
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Sun Mar 22, 2020 7:30 am

Further bad news for Turkish Aviation & THY:

TK's CEO, Mr. Ilker Aycı, has just announced that TK will stop flying all international destinations as of 27th March 2020, with the following exceptions (these being important transfer hubs): New York, Washington, Moscow, Hong Kong & Adis Ababa (Ethiopia).

Source is tolgaozbek.com. It's a new aviation website owned by Tolga Ozbek (the ex-chief editor of kokpit.aero.com, which is not operational since a while, after Mr. Ozbek quit the latter site...)
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Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:51 am

If true, this is a huge blow to TK. Even if this pandemic ends with fewer deaths (hopefully), I doubt they can go back to the way things were quickly. Long recovery period awaits.
 
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Sun Mar 22, 2020 11:11 am

Things will never be the same again anyway. 2-3 years for the Aviation industry to recover if at all.
 
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Things will never be the same again anyway. 2-3 years for the Aviation industry to recover if at all.

I agree. This is going to be unprecedented. Let's see if Boeing can survive, even with bailout.
When we get rid of the pandemic, it is going to take many months/if not years for people to feel comfortable to fly again. I wonder if there will be more regulations for public and/or airlines to follow, so they will not spread another virus in the future. And it is going to take years for everyone to recover from the economic fallout to have enough money/feeling of safety to travel internationally.
Be safe everyone.
 
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Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:37 pm

Here's a link to an article (in Turkish, only) that includes very recently photo taken at IST (the (New) Istanbul Airport) showing a large fleet of red-tail TK birds being grounded.

Pls. see: https://www.havayolu101.com/2020/03/22/ ... indiriyor/

The author is a well respected civil aviation expert in Turkey, but I have to disagree with him for his comment that 85% of TK's fleet has been grounded. Even if we only count the red-tail frames (excepting the blue tail AnadoluJet) this percentage is still inflated. However after March 27th, it may become a near reality. :confused:

It's been indicated that TK has not yet taken the decision to place any frames for long term ground storage (sealing some areas on the frame, partial mothballing, etc. so called as "packaging"). Some frames who are nearing their long time taking base maintenances (as once called as C-Checks) will be sent to ISL (=AHL) & SAW (=ISG) MRO facilities for the process. Already have seen a photo of two TK333s docked at the passenger boarding bridges at ISL (=AHL).

Also, the CEO Mr. Ilker Aycı has already mentioned that in a few months' time they will sit together with both Airbus & Boeing for re-planning of those new aircraft orders and deliveries; I guess there may be some cancellations and a lot of deferments, possibly extending the end 2023-2024 fleet plan to 2025-2026-2027.

As already admits this Covid-19 will have far extending negative impacts on the economies (globally, not only Turkey) and civil air transportation & travel. :banghead: :o
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:45 pm

I do not have details of contracts but my proposal is as following:
1) cancell max order
2) retire 737 fleet dending on lease expire dates
3) if needed order A220 and plan a fleet of A220-321 for nb
4) negotiate with boeing to convert max order to 787-777x with late delivery dates
5) retire 332 fleet (5+8 tam birds)
 
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Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:47 pm

If trumps eases sanction of Iran and allow for second -hamd aircrafts aged between 7-15, both sides can benefit, there is a demand for 400-500 airplanes and 15 years planes will be much more safer vs 40 years planes
 
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Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:38 pm

mafaky wrote:
Further bad news for Turkish Aviation & THY:

TK's CEO, Mr. Ilker Aycı, has just announced that TK will stop flying all international destinations as of 27th March 2020, with the following exceptions (these being important transfer hubs): New York, Washington, Moscow, Hong Kong & Adis Ababa (Ethiopia).

Source is tolgaozbek.com. It's a new aviation website owned by Tolga Ozbek (the ex-chief editor of kokpit.aero.com, which is not operational since a while, after Mr. Ozbek quit the latter site...)


Thanks for the information! My in-laws will have to make some itenerary changes to get back to Ukraine in April.

https://www.dailysabah.com/business/tra ... f-march-27
 
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:53 am

leftyboarder wrote:
If true, this is a huge blow to TK. Even if this pandemic ends with fewer deaths (hopefully), I doubt they can go back to the way things were quickly. Long recovery period awaits.


I really hope it won’t take TK a long time to get back to their track. And I hope that passengers will be confident enough to travel again when this crap with covid ends...

I really was hoping that TK would publish an open vacancy for cabin crew this year. I really want to do work as a cabin attendant at TK and move out to Istanbul. But I guess it will not happen this year... I sincerely hope TK will open job vacancies next year.
 
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OTTOMANAIR wrote:
leftyboarder wrote:
If true, this is a huge blow to TK. Even if this pandemic ends with fewer deaths (hopefully), I doubt they can go back to the way things were quickly. Long recovery period awaits.


I really hope it won’t take TK a long time to get back to their track. And I hope that passengers will be confident enough to travel again when this crap with covid ends...

I really was hoping that TK would publish an open vacancy for cabin crew this year. I really want to do work as a cabin attendant at TK and move out to Istanbul. But I guess it will not happen this year... I sincerely hope TK will open job vacancies next year.


I can't figure out why New York is one of the cities they will fly in and out of. Yes it has huge O&D, but it is also the city with worst outbreak of COVID-19 in North America.

Up until this weekend my city was the largest city in the US with no cases of Coronavirus infection. The case disclosed Saturday was a man who was exposed on a trip to Houston. None of the other people in his household tested positive. There is still no community transmission. I sure hate the idea of my in-laws having to fly to New York even though that was the original plan 2 months ago.
 
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:23 am

ist2014 wrote:
I do not have details of contracts but my proposal is as following:
1) cancell max order
2) retire 737 fleet dending on lease expire dates
3) if needed order A220 and plan a fleet of A220-321 for nb
4) negotiate with boeing to convert max order to 787-777x with late delivery dates
5) retire 332 fleet (5+8 tam birds)

They have a MAX on order and they will not cancelled it. The NEO will then be reduced due to delays and Airbus will not be able to build planes as that much. The A220 does not requried for TK's SH fleet. They will retire some of the A332 and sell off the smaller A319 jet as the A319 become weaker market.
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:11 am

Just noticed some weird TK allocations this morning. DUB has an A333 while LGW has TC-LKC, a 400-seat 77W. I tracked this aircraft and saw that it was at Denpasar too! I've never seen these 77Ws operating genuine long haul flights (well India probably counts but the flights aren't particularly long, I've seen the Skymark A330s on those routes before)
 
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As of 16:00 hrs. (4 pm) today PPB service for A & B Piers will also be shut down atIST (New Istanbul Airport). All further departures & arrivals will be thru remote gates (bus gates) only, for all (whatever is/will be remaining) international flights. Looks like only Pier G will still provide PPB services & The G-Pier remote gates for domestic operations.

And the landside of the rather huuge Terminal is functioning with limited facilities. Most check-in islands are totally deserted and their areas are not illuminated. Only passengers holding tickets are allowed inside the terminal and via only entrances. :? :evil:
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:35 pm

AirbusA343 wrote:
Just noticed some weird TK allocations this morning. DUB has an A333 while LGW has TC-LKC, a 400-seat 77W. I tracked this aircraft and saw that it was at Denpasar too! I've never seen these 77Ws operating genuine long haul flights (well India probably counts but the flights aren't particularly long, I've seen the Skymark A330s on those routes before)

The afternoon DUB flight has another A333, TC-LOF while LGW has another 77W, TC-JJN. These are probably the last flights to those airports for a while. Also, EDI has an A321neo as does VNO.
 
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AirbusA343 wrote:
AirbusA343 wrote:
Just noticed some weird TK allocations this morning. DUB has an A333 while LGW has TC-LKC, a 400-seat 77W. I tracked this aircraft and saw that it was at Denpasar too! I've never seen these 77Ws operating genuine long haul flights (well India probably counts but the flights aren't particularly long, I've seen the Skymark A330s on those routes before)

The afternoon DUB flight has another A333, TC-LOF while LGW has another 77W, TC-JJN. These are probably the last flights to those airports for a while. Also, EDI has an A321neo as does VNO.



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Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:42 pm

Thanks for that pic OA260! It seems to be diverting to Sivas now?
 
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:59 pm

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As of 16:00 hrs. (4 pm) today PPB service for A & B Piers will also be shut down atIST (New Istanbul Airport). All further departures & arrivals will be thru remote gates (bus gates) only, for all (whatever is/will be remaining) international flights. Looks like only Pier G will still provide PPB services & The G-Pier remote gates for domestic operations.

And the landside of the rather huuge Terminal is functioning with limited facilities. Most check-in islands are totally deserted and their areas are not illuminated. Only passengers holding tickets are allowed inside the terminal and via only entrances. :? :evil:


The latest update on this issue: Yes Piers A & B are now closed for PBB service (international). Pier D (international) has also been closed. However, they re-started providing PBB service at Pier F (international) which is adjacent with Pier G (domestic). Pier G also houses a number of bus gates but Pier F doesn't have any. I couldn't get any info whether or not the bus gates under Pier A will kept operational. Doesn't make sense if they do. In this way they can block the entire mid section and western flank of the terminal. Pier F will surely suffice for all international flights being carried as of now and surely it will be more than adequate after March 27th when TK will have something less than 10 daily international flights plus the flights carried by only a handful of foreign carriers. It really looks hearth breaking to see this big Terminal so very much deserted. :mad: :mad: :ashamed:
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Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:35 pm

I don’t want to sound cynical, but, as we anyway are expecting a financial crisis and aviation crisis with decreased demand: isn’t this a chance to construct the 3rd runway in IST at full length instead of short version? Pressure to finish it should be less now. Are construction works continuing at all? From what I understand it is anyways mostly machine work where people can easily keep safe distance.
 
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Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:15 pm

Right now, 1:00am Turkish time, there are only 18 TK jets in the air and only 5 of them are pax :(
 
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Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:13 pm

AirbusA343 wrote:
Thanks for that pic OA260! It seems to be diverting to Sivas now?


It didn't divert to Sivas, the flight was actually planned to go there. The reason for it was that there is still enough capacity at student dormitories in Sivas were the pax, which btw are also mostly students, are going to be quarantined in for 14 days.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:12 am

Thanks for clearing that up emre787. It's gone to ISL now. Also TC-LKA did the morning Gatwick rotation yesterday.
 
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Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:21 am

Air Serbia will operate a charter flight to IST today to take back 150 Turkish nationals who wished to return home. As a sign of gratitude the Turkish government is sending masks and other medical equipment to Serbia.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:18 pm

AirbusA343 wrote:
Thanks for clearing that up emre787. It's gone to ISL now. Also TC-LKA did the morning Gatwick rotation yesterday.


You're welcome. A 77W and A332 TC-JNB flew to Rome to bring back stranded Italians to their homes and also brought back Turkish citizen and students back. Both landed in Samsun (I think, don't know if the 77W did the same) because of the same reason as Sivas.

Btw that 77W to LGW was also a reparation flight mostly bringing back students.

Here's a screenshot I found on Twitter (forgot to take one myself): https://twitter.com/haktansahintr/statu ... 42275?s=19

Also, TK reacted to media and staff and let the flight attendants work with protective gear. Definitely nice to see!

https://twitter.com/BilalEksiTHY/status ... 32928?s=19
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:57 am

-Here is a very nice and detailed TK 787-9 review.
It seems like a distant past, just incredible :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXTgubWKvMc

-And now there are only four. TK suspends Moscow :(
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:00 am

The future is in the skies.
 
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Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:33 am

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Read somewhere they are looking for a possibility for Chicago (ORD) as JFK replacement.

Also Turkish Authorities are negotiating with Russians on a last relief flight from Moscow, for the strandedTurkish citizens who want to return home...

Last minute edit: Negotiation successful A TK widebody will carry those passengers from Moscow Vnukovo at/around 20:45 local time, today.
A veteran Electronics & Communications Engineer from Istanbul-Turkey, highly interested in civil and military aviation.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:28 pm

And no more international flights out of Turkey :(
Actually, I was looking for some international award travel with TK from a year from now and what used to be 115,000 miles for a J award ticket is now down to 45,000miles. Who knows how things will be in a few months from now on. So, I am still not making any plans.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:54 pm

I mentioned a few days ago that TC-LSN was at Edinburgh. It sure had an interesting routing. It took off from Edinburgh, diverted to Zurich, landed at Sivas for the probably the reason that emre explained and back to IST.
 
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Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:18 pm

mafaky wrote:
TK105 wrote:


Read somewhere they are looking for a possibility for Chicago (ORD) as JFK replacement.

Also Turkish Authorities are negotiating with Russians on a last relief flight from Moscow, for the strandedTurkish citizens who want to return home...

Last minute edit: Negotiation successful A TK widebody will carry those passengers from Moscow Vnukovo at/around 20:45 local time, today.


I thought JFK was a bad idea to keep as one of 2 destinations in the US.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation March 2020

Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:52 pm

Well, it is changing hourly :(
This morning I got up to news, TK now only flying to 14 domestic destinations.
SAW is closed, Pegasus suspends all flights.
Please correct me if this info is incorrect.
Be safe.

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