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mop357
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Why is Thai Airways so Expensive?

Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:25 am

I would love to fly Thai Airways but their prices always seems to be way more than everyone else. I was looking at a flight from HND to BKK. ANA has their flights for around $600. Thai airways has a codeshare with ANA in which they fly a B747. There price is $2,400. I know this airline has been taking loses. How do they expect to make a profit with these uncompetitive prices?
 
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Re: Why is Thai Airways so Expensive?

Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:07 pm

Well i don’t know too much about their pricing in general. But have you noticed this frequently or are you basing it off this one time. Because if that’s the case, it doesn’t really give you a good big picture. This one flight on that day may be full and all that’s left are the more expensive buckets. But curious if you have noticed a trend.
 
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Re: Why is Thai Airways so Expensive?

Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:45 pm

toobz wrote:
Well i don’t know too much about their pricing in general. But have you noticed this frequently or are you basing it off this one time. Because if that’s the case, it doesn’t really give you a good big picture. This one flight on that day may be full and all that’s left are the more expensive buckets. But curious if you have noticed a trend.


No this is not just one flight. I have noticed this for years. They always seems to be a few hundred more than anyone else.
 
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Re: Why is Thai Airways so Expensive?

Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:12 pm

I don’t know about their international flights but domestically it’s not uncommon to shoot a Norway fare for 40€ in eco between BKK and CNX/KBV/HKT.
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Re: Why is Thai Airways so Expensive?

Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:29 pm

I think you just found an expensive flight. I'm based in TYO, and whenever I've needed to go to Thailand, fares have never been that high. They are usually the same as NH or JL at about $600 rtn.
 
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Re: Why is Thai Airways so Expensive?

Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:24 am

Fuling wrote:
I think you just found an expensive flight. I'm based in TYO, and whenever I've needed to go to Thailand, fares have never been that high. They are usually the same as NH or JL at about $600 rtn.


Where are you flying from? I have always wanted to take them but they seem to be really expensive. I have never seen them offer any reasonable deals.
 
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Re: Why is Thai Airways so Expensive?

Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:37 am

mop357 wrote:
Fuling wrote:
I think you just found an expensive flight. I'm based in TYO, and whenever I've needed to go to Thailand, fares have never been that high. They are usually the same as NH or JL at about $600 rtn.


Where are you flying from? I have always wanted to take them but they seem to be really expensive. I have never seen them offer any reasonable deals.


HND-BKK rtn
 
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Re: Why is Thai Airways so Expensive?

Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:49 am

TG is very cheap. I booked SIN-BKK-KHI with them for $450 RT vs EK via DXB or QR via DOH for over $1k
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Re: Why is Thai Airways so Expensive?

Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:04 am

You probably have chosen a date where the cheaper tickets are sold out. What is the HND-BKK date?
 
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Re: Why is Thai Airways so Expensive?

Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:31 pm

My experience has been that many of their longer routes are kinda pricey..but it is offset by the fun of flying a domestic route on a 747 for virtually nothing
 
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Re: Why is Thai Airways so Expensive?

Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:59 pm

eta unknown wrote:
You probably have chosen a date where the cheaper tickets are sold out. What is the HND-BKK date?


I don’t remember the date. I was playing around with dates due to a situation with ANA. ANA swapped its NRT slots for HND slots and it screwed up all the connections to BKK. They now have horrible slots. I was even look at a Thai airlines codeshare with EVA from JFK a while back and that was also expensive.
 
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Re: Why is Thai Airways so Expensive?

Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:39 am

mop357 wrote:
I would love to fly Thai Airways but their prices always seems to be way more than everyone else. I was looking at a flight from HND to BKK. ANA has their flights for around $600. Thai airways has a codeshare with ANA in which they fly a B747. There price is $2,400. I know this airline has been taking loses. How do they expect to make a profit with these uncompetitive prices?


The "problem" is most likely that you are trying to book on a code-share flight.
Most airlines in the world (very few exceptions) that have code share agreements discourage bookings solely on the point-to-point code-share flight.
The intention is to keep the few blocked seats on a code share flight for connecting passengers.

So, if you want to fly non-stop HND-BKK only and you want to fly on NH you can book a NH-ticket and the prices will be "normal".
As soon as you try to book this route with a TG (code-share) flight number the price will be sky high because TG wants to keep these few seats availlable as code share for passengers flying (e.g.) HND-BKK-FRA.

Still, sometimes fares on a specific route are very high because market conditions allow these airlines to charge a premium for some reason.
So, if TG is asking 2400,-$ for that flight in this particular case it seems they´re likely to be able to fill the seat with that fare which turns into a huge profit for them - but as I said there are several conditions at play.
I just checked random dates on the route and it seems that it in your case most likely their lower seat buckets are simply sold out.
Sorry, I could not list all possible reasons for such high fares but there are quite a few scenarios/reasons why/where such high fares appear.
(e.g. another reason might be a pending flight cancellation which usually gets lower booking classes inventory clocked before the whole booking class inventory gets blocked later)
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