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Why are airport stores/eateries still closed?

Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:50 am

Most areas in the US have reopened.

Airports have people in them again

Why are 95 % of airport businesses still closed? Especially eateries.

For example, Florida is mainly open. As I sit in a crowded MCO, Burger King is open. That is it.

Airport crowds are captive audiences. Even if the audience is smaller...they are still there...looking at shuttered stores
 
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Re: Why are airport stores/eateries still closed?

Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:59 am

How do you think stores and restaurants are going to make $ on 12-14% of last year's passenger volume? Labor is a variable cost - so are concession fees, typically. They lose less by keeping closed.
 
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Re: Why are airport stores/eateries still closed?

Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:18 pm

If you have to keep 2 metre distance in a restaurant / bar / pub between parties ... the business model is not viable for many.
 
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Re: Why are airport stores/eateries still closed?

Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:53 pm

And I doubt many of those travelers flying currently are "leisure" and are in any mood buying luxury items.
Most will be either business essential or because of family matters. You may see a few more food outlets open but for the near future, I don't really see other retailers will open. And any eateries will have to adjust their operation and business model (e.g. social distancing, PPE, and other protective measures and procedures).
 
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Re: Why are airport stores/eateries still closed?

Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:57 pm

Most of the non tip based airport restaurant employees in the US are making more money on unemployment than they would of otherwise made working. It will be a tall order to get these employees to come back until the money runs out.
 
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Re: Why are airport stores/eateries still closed?

Mon Jun 01, 2020 2:13 pm

JohanTally wrote:
Most of the non tip based airport restaurant employees in the US are making more money on unemployment than they would of otherwise made working. It will be a tall order to get these employees to come back until the money runs out.


Besides that, many of the airport workers take public transportation. In many places the schedules of the bus lines have been slashed, and in other circumstances people are avoiding public transportation entirely.
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Re: Why are airport stores/eateries still closed?

Mon Jun 01, 2020 2:26 pm

Man, flying in the US is awful. In the past, when we complained about airline not serving meals, everyone was defending the airlines saying one can always buy their own food at the terminal. Now, with restaurants closed in the terminals, and airlines not serving meals, the traveler is the one who suffers.
 
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Re: Why are airport stores/eateries still closed?

Mon Jun 01, 2020 2:45 pm

Ziyulu wrote:
Man, flying in the US is awful. In the past, when we complained about airline not serving meals, everyone was defending the airlines saying one can always buy their own food at the terminal. Now, with restaurants closed in the terminals, and airlines not serving meals, the traveler is the one who suffers.


Something tells me this isn't limited to the US.
 
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Re: Why are airport stores/eateries still closed?

Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:06 pm

AAtakeMeAway wrote:
Ziyulu wrote:
Man, flying in the US is awful. In the past, when we complained about airline not serving meals, everyone was defending the airlines saying one can always buy their own food at the terminal. Now, with restaurants closed in the terminals, and airlines not serving meals, the traveler is the one who suffers.


Something tells me this isn't limited to the US.


Fortunately, in other parts of the world, in flight service is still substantial. I know they still serve hot meals on domestic flights in China.
 
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Re: Why are airport stores/eateries still closed?

Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:21 pm

AAtakeMeAway wrote:
Ziyulu wrote:
Man, flying in the US is awful. In the past, when we complained about airline not serving meals, everyone was defending the airlines saying one can always buy their own food at the terminal. Now, with restaurants closed in the terminals, and airlines not serving meals, the traveler is the one who suffers.


Something tells me this isn't limited to the US.


It isn't. I've been unfortunate enough to suffer through a handful of trips in Europe with nothing at all. If I am lucky, there is the pastry Lufthansa serves or a vending machine with bags of chips in a corner of the airport, but that's far from certain. You can't even trust hotels provide proper meals at the moment.
 
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Re: Why are airport stores/eateries still closed?

Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:46 pm

Many airport businesses probably lose more money being open then closed.

With such anemic traffic numbers and far reduced sales potential doubt many have a business case.

Add in complexity with new health regulations, supply chain and staffing limitations, suspect many will remain closed for extended periods.
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Re: Why are airport stores/eateries still closed?

Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:43 am

Ziyulu wrote:
AAtakeMeAway wrote:
Ziyulu wrote:
Man, flying in the US is awful. In the past, when we complained about airline not serving meals, everyone was defending the airlines saying one can always buy their own food at the terminal. Now, with restaurants closed in the terminals, and airlines not serving meals, the traveler is the one who suffers.


Something tells me this isn't limited to the US.


Fortunately, in other parts of the world, in flight service is still substantial. I know they still serve hot meals on domestic flights in China.


What is served on Chinese airlines can hardly be considered food.

Flying in China is as painful as in the US, though I guess one big difference is that in-flight wifi is accessible on domestic US legs. Chinese airports have shite food options, and restrooms double as ashtrays. Bring a thermos, because you will need it for your MSG noodles found near the hot water dispensers.
 
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Re: Why are airport stores/eateries still closed?

Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:57 pm

Simple top answer - business volumes are down.

The answer behind that is a normal restaurant/eatery has a good 4-5 hours of food preparation work ahead of its opening. That's anywhere from 3 to 6...7...8 what have you making a good wage, $12/$15 or more per hour plus those in management cutting, slicing, dicing away, greeting delivery trucks, stocking shelves, doing inventory, running nice pieces of equipment sucking up the energy bill with no revenue coming in during this time period. A friend of mine is a franchisee with several Brinker restaurants under his ownership - he told me his daily costs on labor alone to open up each store for the day is roughly $650.

Outside of that, with business being down, you're not selling as much and at the end of the day, you're throwing out a ton of unused product.

For a place like Burger King, pretty much 100% of what's prepared comes out of a bag or a box. There is still some prep work but it isn't as labor intensive. What isn't cooked goes back in the walk-ins for the next day.
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Re: Why are airport stores/eateries still closed?

Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:21 am

Remember also, that in most cases a single company runs all of the concessions for the entire airport. HMSHost is one common company that does this. So, as long as they can serve the required volume, they are being more efficient by only opening the stores/restaurants they need to meet demand. So, if they open Burger King and are passengers that want to eat are able to buy something, there is no logical reason for them to also open the Panda Express, they would just be splitting their revenue between the two and increasing costs.

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