BTVB6Flyer wrote:

mjgbtv wrote:

Today (6/3) appears to be the day that AA finally brings 'real' mainline to BTV, and it's a big bang with 3 different routes. I believe this is also the first day of UA's seasonal service to DEN and it is one of F9's days, so there are 10 mainline flights scheduled today:

B6 E190 JFK
AA A319 CLT
UA A319 ORD
UA A319 DEN
F9 A20N DEN
AA A319 DCA
AA A319 ORD
UA A319 ORD
B6 E190 JFK
DL A320 ATL

I'm not sure when the last time was that BTV had so many mainline flights, but I suspect it has not been since 2000.

Really impressive lift, I wonder how the airport is handling the capacity.

I'll be on the inbound CLT A319 in a couple days.

B595 wrote:

mjgbtv wrote:

Today (6/3) appears to be the day that AA finally brings 'real' mainline to BTV, and it's a big bang with 3 different routes. I believe this is also the first day of UA's seasonal service to DEN and it is one of F9's days, so there are 10 mainline flights scheduled today:

B6 E190 JFK
AA A319 CLT
UA A319 ORD
UA A319 DEN
F9 A20N DEN
AA A319 DCA
AA A319 ORD
UA A319 ORD
B6 E190 JFK
DL A320 ATL

I'm not sure when the last time was that BTV had so many mainline flights, but I suspect it has not been since 2000.

And the summer schedule isn’t even maxed out: the MSP flights on Sun Country and Delta have yet to start.

Also, it was interesting to see how early Frontier’s DEN flights started this year. Seems a testament to the route’s strength.

SCHATC422 wrote:

BDL having a route announced to begin late in the summer season via F9.... any guesses?

Can't find anything yet on what the new route is.... I'm thinking they're "announcing" DFW for a 3rd time as it hasn't started the two times so far that they've announced it. Second guess is TPA or PHX.

https://www.wfsb.com/2022/06/07/airport ... l-bradley/

maximairways wrote:

DL adding BDL-LGA starting September 6th. 3x daily on a CR9.

https://thepointsguy.com/news/laguardia ... est-route/

JFK would've been better for international options. But this helps for Northeast centric connections.

maximairways wrote:

DL adding BDL-LGA starting September 6th. 3x daily on a CR9.

https://thepointsguy.com/news/laguardia ... est-route/

JFK would've been better for international options. But this helps for Northeast centric connections.

maximairways wrote:

DL adding BDL-LGA starting September 6th. 3x daily on a CR9.

https://thepointsguy.com/news/laguardia ... est-route/

JFK would've been better for international options. But this helps for Northeast centric connections.

maximairways wrote:

DL adding BDL-LGA starting September 6th. 3x daily on a CR9.

https://thepointsguy.com/news/laguardia ... est-route/

JFK would've been better for international options. But this helps for Northeast centric connections.

bdlflyer wrote:

maximairways wrote:

DL adding BDL-LGA starting September 6th. 3x daily on a CR9.

https://thepointsguy.com/news/laguardia ... est-route/

JFK would've been better for international options. But this helps for Northeast centric connections.

paysonmt77 wrote:

Frontier is making some big changes including elimination of 32 domestic and 11 international routes. PWM loses RSW, TPA, FLL. PVD loses RSW and TPA. BOS, BDL, and PVD lose CUN. Will B6 or SWA pick up the lost routes?

paysonmt77 wrote:

Frontier is making some big changes including elimination of 32 domestic and 11 international routes. PWM loses RSW, TPA, FLL. PVD loses RSW and TPA. BOS, BDL, and PVD lose CUN. Will B6 or SWA pick up the lost routes?

paysonmt77 wrote:

Frontier is making some big changes including elimination of 32 domestic and 11 international routes. PWM loses RSW, TPA, FLL. PVD loses RSW and TPA. BOS, BDL, and PVD lose CUN. Will B6 or SWA pick up the lost routes?

uconn99 wrote:

paysonmt77 wrote:

Frontier is making some big changes including elimination of 32 domestic and 11 international routes. PWM loses RSW, TPA, FLL. PVD loses RSW and TPA. BOS, BDL, and PVD lose CUN. Will B6 or SWA pick up the lost routes?

Did F9 fly PVD-CUN in the past or was it announced and never started? I don't believe F9 has flown BDL-CUN since May or June, B6 has been on the route for over a year.

uconn99 wrote:

paysonmt77 wrote:

Frontier is making some big changes including elimination of 32 domestic and 11 international routes. PWM loses RSW, TPA, FLL. PVD loses RSW and TPA. BOS, BDL, and PVD lose CUN. Will B6 or SWA pick up the lost routes?

I don't believe F9 has flown BDL-CUN since May or June, B6 has been on the route for over a year.

MO11 wrote:

uconn99 wrote:

paysonmt77 wrote:

Frontier is making some big changes including elimination of 32 domestic and 11 international routes. PWM loses RSW, TPA, FLL. PVD loses RSW and TPA. BOS, BDL, and PVD lose CUN. Will B6 or SWA pick up the lost routes?

I don't believe F9 has flown BDL-CUN since May or June, B6 has been on the route for over a year.

F9 ended BDL-CUN April 26.
B6 went from daily to 3/weekly on May 4, and will suspend that on August 20.

MO11 wrote:

bdlflyer wrote:

maximairways wrote:

DL adding BDL-LGA starting September 6th. 3x daily on a CR9.

https://thepointsguy.com/news/laguardia ... est-route/

JFK would've been better for international options. But this helps for Northeast centric connections.

This service started August 1. I wonder why the quick start?

B6BOSfan wrote:

MO11 wrote:

bdlflyer wrote:

This service started August 1. I wonder why the quick start?

LGA slot squatting would be my educated guess. About as minimal fuel burn as you can get.

PVD523 wrote:

Couple BOS diversions to PVD this afternoon due to thunderstorms.

DL 1182 DFW-BOS A220
B6 434 SFO-BOS A321

ctavgeek33 wrote:

PVD523 wrote:

Couple BOS diversions to PVD this afternoon due to thunderstorms.

DL 1182 DFW-BOS A220
B6 434 SFO-BOS A321

BDL took in XP 720 MCO-HVN on a 738.

airlineworker wrote:

B6BOSfan wrote:

MO11 wrote:

This service started August 1. I wonder why the quick start?

LGA slot squatting would be my educated guess. About as minimal fuel burn as you can get.

US did that for years running Dash-8's on low volume passenger flights to small nearby cities.

lat41 wrote:

Delta has just unveiled a striking and massive terminal at LGA that I'm sure they hope to pump some traffic through. For Southern N E via PVD, I am certain they have picked up point to point traffic and connecting business for cities South of DTW and North of ATL. Alternately, one can transit EWR on UA, but it's less than dependable or pleasant these days.

lat41 wrote:

Delta has just unveiled a striking and massive terminal at LGA that I'm sure they hope to pump some traffic through. For Southern N E via PVD, I am certain they have picked up point to point traffic and connecting business for cities South of DTW and North of ATL. Alternately, one can transit EWR on UA, but it's less than dependable or pleasant these days.

MIflyer12 wrote:

lat41 wrote:

Delta has just unveiled a striking and massive terminal at LGA that I'm sure they hope to pump some traffic through. For Southern N E via PVD, I am certain they have picked up point to point traffic and connecting business for cities South of DTW and North of ATL. Alternately, one can transit EWR on UA, but it's less than dependable or pleasant these days.

95% of LGA's traffic is O&D. Any connections are utterly incidental. DL would be happy to route BDL passengers through DTW or ATL to keep NYC yields high.

PVD523 wrote:

lat41 wrote:

Delta has just unveiled a striking and massive terminal at LGA that I'm sure they hope to pump some traffic through. For Southern N E via PVD, I am certain they have picked up point to point traffic and connecting business for cities South of DTW and North of ATL. Alternately, one can transit EWR on UA, but it's less than dependable or pleasant these days.

Less than dependable is an understatement. PVD-EWR is a crapshoot these days. So is UA as a whole at PVD. Due to the congestion issues and UA’s overall schedule reliability issues at EWR, the weekday morning flights were cut for July and August, with the first EWR departure leaving at 12:44. From UA’s website, the on time performance of their three remaining EWR flights is:

UA 3694 (Republic) scheduled 12:44 dep: on time 64%, cancelled 20%

UA 4537 (GoJet) scheduled 17:52 dep: on time 57%, cancelled 9%

UA 4393 (GoJet) scheduled 19:16 dep: this is a new flight number so no official on time stats yet but over the last week, on time 20%, cancelled 20%

lat41 wrote:

PVD523 wrote:

lat41 wrote:

Delta has just unveiled a striking and massive terminal at LGA that I'm sure they hope to pump some traffic through. For Southern N E via PVD, I am certain they have picked up point to point traffic and connecting business for cities South of DTW and North of ATL. Alternately, one can transit EWR on UA, but it's less than dependable or pleasant these days.

Less than dependable is an understatement. PVD-EWR is a crapshoot these days. So is UA as a whole at PVD. Due to the congestion issues and UA’s overall schedule reliability issues at EWR, the weekday morning flights were cut for July and August, with the first EWR departure leaving at 12:44. From UA’s website, the on time performance of their three remaining EWR flights is:

UA 3694 (Republic) scheduled 12:44 dep: on time 64%, cancelled 20%

UA 4537 (GoJet) scheduled 17:52 dep: on time 57%, cancelled 9%

UA 4393 (GoJet) scheduled 19:16 dep: this is a new flight number so no official on time stats yet but over the last week, on time 20%, cancelled 20%

Thanks for stats. A few snowflakes. wind gusts or a clap of thunder is enough. Look at the EWR scrub list each day Providence is far from alone among cities. DL to LGA is better and CR9s tolerable.

B595 wrote:

Shame that BTV-DTW is ending. That route goes back a ways.

I avoid connecting in any New York airports if possible. It’s always a gamble with weather and air traffic, and at the end/start of a long transcon I don’t like to gamble. Although I admit the terminals at all three airports have improved over the years.

MIflyer12 wrote:

lat41 wrote:

Delta has just unveiled a striking and massive terminal at LGA that I'm sure they hope to pump some traffic through. For Southern N E via PVD, I am certain they have picked up point to point traffic and connecting business for cities South of DTW and North of ATL. Alternately, one can transit EWR on UA, but it's less than dependable or pleasant these days.

95% of LGA's traffic is O&D. Any connections are utterly incidental. DL would be happy to route BDL passengers through DTW or ATL to keep NYC yields high.

BTVB6Flyer wrote:

Regarding BTV and DL, lets not look over MSP and MSP being mainline, while DTW is regional. From what I have seen and read, a lot of regional cuts are due to pilot/union shortages. LGA isn't soaking up much of DTW passengers. DTW will come back at some point, this just has to to do with the regional pilot issues.

MIflyer12 wrote:

lat41 wrote:

Delta has just unveiled a striking and massive terminal at LGA that I'm sure they hope to pump some traffic through. For Southern N E via PVD, I am certain they have picked up point to point traffic and connecting business for cities South of DTW and North of ATL. Alternately, one can transit EWR on UA, but it's less than dependable or pleasant these days.

95% of LGA's traffic is O&D. Any connections are utterly incidental. DL would be happy to route BDL passengers through DTW or ATL to keep NYC yields high.

Jetport wrote:

MIflyer12 wrote:

lat41 wrote:

Delta has just unveiled a striking and massive terminal at LGA that I'm sure they hope to pump some traffic through. For Southern N E via PVD, I am certain they have picked up point to point traffic and connecting business for cities South of DTW and North of ATL. Alternately, one can transit EWR on UA, but it's less than dependable or pleasant these days.

95% of LGA's traffic is O&D. Any connections are utterly incidental. DL would be happy to route BDL passengers through DTW or ATL to keep NYC yields high.

95% O&D at LGA, or any hub/focus city sounds absurd, do you have a source? I guess I have been part of the 5%, along with most other passengers on my flights a ridiculous number of times over the past 25 years.