Aesma wrote:

Deserved one for Morocco, they put one in (and a beautiful one), Portugal couldn't...

A bit worried for France-Morocco once we're past England...

You are definitely the favorite to close it out. I am predicitng you and Croatia in final.

Figures, the one time in 78 minutes I get up to pee, France scores.

Revelation wrote:

Figures, the one time in 78 minutes I get up to pee, France scores.

Bonehead play and now a PK. Which England misses OMG!!!!. Very bad form from France player to foul there and they dodge the bullet!

Goalie guesses correctly, Kane can't keep it on target... One out of two doesn't look like it'll get it done...

France advances to what should be a game for the ages against Morocco!!!!!!!!!

marcelh wrote:

journeyperson wrote:

flipdewaf wrote:

From the dugout whilst Argentina play England?

Fred


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Some of us are keeping our fingers crossed, our powder dry and making a note of post numbers

I’m happy to be proven wrong and eat humble pie when necessary.

They are going home…
Allez les bleus!

France is interesting. They play a fluid style with the ball, and play a dirty style when defending. It took a long time for the refs to take the whistle out of their pockets, but of course Kane will forever regret not making the 2nd PK. Now, on to the next round!

Well, England Penalty curse is back again...although this one is during regular time.

Vive la France!

I’m sure plenty are delighted that England are out, but disappointed that it wasn’t the thrashing they craved.

In my view, it was a worthy QF and both teams played well. Loris had to make more saves than Pickford. England on the wrong side of lots of decisions. How the ref can just wave away the foul that was eventually given as the second penalty. Hopefully he’s on his way home as well.

Congrats to France, looking forward to a France vs Argentina final.

scbriml wrote:

Congrats to France, looking forward to a France vs Argentina final.

As the commentators on the US feed said, France vs Morocco should produce some interesting story lines...

marcelh wrote:

marcelh wrote:

journeyperson wrote:

Some of us are keeping our fingers crossed, our powder dry and making a note of post numbers

I’m happy to be proven wrong and eat humble pie when necessary.

They are going home…
Allez les bleus!

Thank goodness - 22 millionaires chasing a bag of wind round a grass field for 90 minutes...

It's not like there curing cancer or world hunger is it?

https://mobile.twitter.com/Ryanair/stat ... 1302955008

Absolutely brutal tweet by Ryanair

Well done France.

Not sure if Kane’s penalty has landed yet whether it is still climbing.

As nice it would be for Morocco to win it, money has got to be on France.

Hopefully against Croatia again.

alberchico wrote:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Ryanair/status/1601688951302955008

Absolutely brutal tweet by Ryanair

OMG LOL

noviorbis77 wrote:

Well done France.

Not sure if Kane’s penalty has landed yet whether it is still climbing.

As nice it would be for Morocco to win it, money has got to be on France.

Hopefully against Croatia again.

France is the class of the 4 teams left but Morocco is the team of destiny!

marcelh wrote:

marcelh wrote:

journeyperson wrote:

Some of us are keeping our fingers crossed, our powder dry and making a note of post numbers

I’m happy to be proven wrong and eat humble pie when necessary.

They are going home…
Allez les bleus!

Oh well, there's the cricket to watch, if I get up at 5.00 am...

At this point I'm pulling for Croatia. Some of Argentina's antics in the last match were a bit much for me, Messi included.

mke717spotter wrote:

mke717spotter wrote:

To be honest I'm not that optimistic about the US team. Their run in the qualifiers was underwhelming and the last two friendly matches leading into the tournament went poorly.

Maybe the loss to Japan and tie versus Saudi Arabia prior to the tournament aren't looking so bad right now?

The US also beat Morocco 3-0 back in June. Just saying.

Aesma wrote:

Deserved one for Morocco, they put one in (and a beautiful one), Portugal couldn't...

I didn't understand keeping Ronaldo on the bench.

scbriml wrote:

I’m sure plenty are delighted that England are out, but disappointed that it wasn’t the thrashing they craved.

For me, this English team was overhyped. Sure, they went deep at the last two tournaments, but they never really had any marquee wins over some of the big boys. They beat a disheveled German side on home soil but aside from that they had a very favorable draw each time.

And people wonder why the English are loathed in the football world:

https://timesofmalta.com/articles/view/ ... ch.1000720

The Sun newspaper taking out arrogant billboards in Paris declaring “It’s Coming Home” and a definite English win.

What a deserving slap back, especially after that horrid Kane penalty.

The only thing that’s “coming home” to England is the ball from Kane’s penalty!

sierrakilo44 wrote:

And people wonder why the English are loathed in the football world:

https://timesofmalta.com/articles/view/ ... ch.1000720

The Sun newspaper taking out arrogant billboards in Paris declaring “It’s Coming Home” and a definite English win.

What a deserving slap back, especially after that horrid Kane penalty.

The only thing that’s “coming home” to England is the ball from Kane’s penalty!

It takes a very sour and prejudiced type to think that tongue in cheek billboards are arrogance. If anyone loathes the English they probably aren't the brightest or most open-minded.

MrHMSH wrote:

sierrakilo44 wrote:

And people wonder why the English are loathed in the football world:

https://timesofmalta.com/articles/view/ ... ch.1000720

The Sun newspaper taking out arrogant billboards in Paris declaring “It’s Coming Home” and a definite English win.

What a deserving slap back, especially after that horrid Kane penalty.

The only thing that’s “coming home” to England is the ball from Kane’s penalty!

It takes a very sour and prejudiced type to think that tongue in cheek billboards are arrogance. If anyone loathes the English they probably aren't the brightest or most open-minded.

I’m English’s and I loathe the English when it comes to football. It isn’t arrogance no, it’s just absolute low class and expected behaviour from the type of people who read the sun and who the sun feed in the right way to sell their papers. There was a copy on the bar last night so I flicked through - it’s a proper dimwit paper.

England are the most overrated team in the world: they simply aren’t particularly good at football but get massively hyped. The parody of them in “Mike Bassett, England Manager” with Pele reeling off the top teams and not including England is exactly right. Shearer et al have their heads up their own asses.

chimborazo wrote:

MrHMSH wrote:

sierrakilo44 wrote:

And people wonder why the English are loathed in the football world:

https://timesofmalta.com/articles/view/ ... ch.1000720

The Sun newspaper taking out arrogant billboards in Paris declaring “It’s Coming Home” and a definite English win.

What a deserving slap back, especially after that horrid Kane penalty.

The only thing that’s “coming home” to England is the ball from Kane’s penalty!

It takes a very sour and prejudiced type to think that tongue in cheek billboards are arrogance. If anyone loathes the English they probably aren't the brightest or most open-minded.

I’m English’s and I loathe the English when it comes to football. It isn’t arrogance no, it’s just absolute low class and expected behaviour from the type of people who read the sun and who the sun feed in the right way to sell their papers. There was a copy on the bar last night so I flicked through - it’s a proper dimwit paper.

England are the most overrated team in the world: they simply aren’t particularly good at football but get massively hyped. The parody of them in “Mike Bassett, England Manager” with Pele reeling off the top teams and not including England is exactly right. Shearer et al have their heads up their own asses.

If your take after a very close-fought encounter with the World Champions is 'they simply aren't particularly good at football' then I'm not too interested in any further debate, you only offer clichés, nothing interesting or insightful. 'England are overrated' is an opinion that barely requires 2 brain cells to conjure up.

MrHMSH wrote:

chimborazo wrote:

MrHMSH wrote:

It takes a very sour and prejudiced type to think that tongue in cheek billboards are arrogance. If anyone loathes the English they probably aren't the brightest or most open-minded.

I’m English’s and I loathe the English when it comes to football. It isn’t arrogance no, it’s just absolute low class and expected behaviour from the type of people who read the sun and who the sun feed in the right way to sell their papers. There was a copy on the bar last night so I flicked through - it’s a proper dimwit paper.

England are the most overrated team in the world: they simply aren’t particularly good at football but get massively hyped. The parody of them in “Mike Bassett, England Manager” with Pele reeling off the top teams and not including England is exactly right. Shearer et al have their heads up their own asses.

If your take after a very close-fought encounter with the World Champions is 'they simply aren't particularly good at football' then I'm not too interested in any further debate, you only offer clichés, nothing interesting or insightful. 'England are overrated' is an opinion that barely requires 2 brain cells to conjure up.

Yes. They’re good. Just not particularly good. Typical football fan who can’t have a debate when you don’t like what you read. England are massively overrated, they fail the first time they come up against decent opposition.

Congrats to France, beers are on us

Signed, Scotland

chimborazo wrote:

MrHMSH wrote:

chimborazo wrote:

I’m English’s and I loathe the English when it comes to football. It isn’t arrogance no, it’s just absolute low class and expected behaviour from the type of people who read the sun and who the sun feed in the right way to sell their papers. There was a copy on the bar last night so I flicked through - it’s a proper dimwit paper.

England are the most overrated team in the world: they simply aren’t particularly good at football but get massively hyped. The parody of them in “Mike Bassett, England Manager” with Pele reeling off the top teams and not including England is exactly right. Shearer et al have their heads up their own asses.

If your take after a very close-fought encounter with the World Champions is 'they simply aren't particularly good at football' then I'm not too interested in any further debate, you only offer clichés, nothing interesting or insightful. 'England are overrated' is an opinion that barely requires 2 brain cells to conjure up.

Yes. They’re good. Just not particularly good. Typical football fan who can’t have a debate when you don’t like what you read. England are massively overrated, they fail the first time they come up against decent opposition.

Disagreeing is one thing, spouting the most banal and repetitive of clichés another entirely. What makes England overrated? To be overrated they have to be thought of more highly than is the case, but who thinks that highly of them?

It's news to me that Senegal, Denmark, Ukraine, Germany, Sweden and Colombia are not even decent teams.

noviorbis77 wrote:

Not sure if Kane’s penalty has landed yet whether it is still climbing.

It probably is chasing Uli Hoeness' penalty from the 1976 European Cup Finale against CSSR.

sierrakilo44 wrote:

What a deserving slap back, especially after that horrid Kane penalty.

The only thing that’s “coming home” to England is the ball from Kane’s penalty!

The interesting thing is that even if he makes the PK it's still just a tie not a lead, with IMO strong odds that their day still would end in frustration.

France was the more fluid, more dangerous team IMO.

So much hype for such little quality on the pitch.

MrHMSH wrote:

Disagreeing is one thing, spouting the most banal and repetitive of clichés another entirely. What makes England overrated? To be overrated they have to be thought of more highly than is the case, but who thinks that highly of them?

Their own supporters, by raising billboards in Paris about it coming home, have set the standard they feel they should be judged by.

Revelation wrote:

Their own supporters, by raising billboards in Paris about it coming home, have set the standard they feel they should be judged by.

Billboard in Paris was placed by one of Murdoch's Brexit loving, red top trashy tabloid newspapers, not an England supporters group.

ChrisKen wrote:

Revelation wrote:

Their own supporters, by raising billboards in Paris about it coming home, have set the standard they feel they should be judged by.

Billboard in Paris was placed by one of Murdoch's Brexit loving, red top trashy tabloid newspapers, not an England supporters group.

Funny, AFAIK such protests weren't raised before the match...

Revelation wrote:

ChrisKen wrote:

Revelation wrote:

Their own supporters, by raising billboards in Paris about it coming home, have set the standard they feel they should be judged by.

Billboard in Paris was placed by one of Murdoch's Brexit loving, red top trashy tabloid newspapers, not an England supporters group.

Funny, AFAIK such protests weren't raised before the match...

Really? Maybe because the average England fan, like myself, was blissfully unaware of what was happening on the streets of Paris? Just a wild guess on my part.

It was classless, but to tar all England fans with that is simply disingenuous, just as many of the anti-England posts in this thread have been. I see some of the more vitriolic ones have been "cleaned up".

Revelation wrote:

Their own supporters, by raising billboards in Paris about it coming home, have set the standard they feel they should be judged by.

I see. A newspaper known for being trashy and provocative puts up some billboards, and that means that the supporters (who didn't fund the billboards) are arrogant. That seems completely fair to me.

Which reminds me: I hate the Irish national team because they're so damn arrogant.

https://news.paddypower.com/football-ne ... clan-rice/

scbriml wrote:

Revelation wrote:

ChrisKen wrote:

Billboard in Paris was placed by one of Murdoch's Brexit loving, red top trashy tabloid newspapers, not an England supporters group.

Funny, AFAIK such protests weren't raised before the match...

Really? Maybe because the average England fan, like myself, was blissfully unaware of what was happening on the streets of Paris? Just a wild guess on my part.

It was classless, but to tar all England fans with that is simply disingenuous, just as many of the anti-England posts in this thread have been. I see some of the more vitriolic ones have been "cleaned up".

Worth reminding those who knowledge of the England fans is still in the 1980's, that the newspaper concerned is owned by this man, heard of him?
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/ ... deposition

The same paper who in 1989 printed, at the behest of a local police force, a wholly false and deeply offensive story about a huge disaster at a football match.
The local Old Bill were covering up their culpability, if there is any shame then the fact that after multiple investigations none of those culpable have been had to account for their actions.

It's always been a shitty rag. Doesn't even make money for him, that would be FOX.

scbriml wrote:

Revelation wrote:

ChrisKen wrote:

Billboard in Paris was placed by one of Murdoch's Brexit loving, red top trashy tabloid newspapers, not an England supporters group.

Funny, AFAIK such protests weren't raised before the match...

Really? Maybe because the average England fan, like myself, was blissfully unaware of what was happening on the streets of Paris? Just a wild guess on my part.

It was classless, but to tar all England fans with that is simply disingenuous, just as many of the anti-England posts in this thread have been. I see some of the more vitriolic ones have been "cleaned up".

I'm as ready as the next one on this forum to bash the UK govt to hell and back over many topics, but the amoust of anti-english vitriol posts online particuarly on social media the last few days has actually really suprised me. I really wasn't aware so many people actually have such a nasty hatred of the English football team. I hope it's because of the govt and people are jumping on the team because of what a few isolated supporters and press do (which is silly but I could at least understand that). Very sad.

Thought the team played very well late first half the most of the 2nd half. First goal from France was superbly taken, questions to ask of the goalkeeper on that, but it was a clear foul leading up to the go so who knows what would have happened next. France like many world class teams have the ability to score out of nothing. They were nowhere in the 2nd half and didn't deserve to win but they got lucky with the missed penalty (should have been another) and again out of nothing some class play and they scored.

I think there are a good 6-7 England players who will become very very good, I just hope the rest of the team can be too. They did win the U21 world cup together, so there is hope for the future.

Still not convinced about the manager but lets see what Southgate does next.

Ref was appaling and should be nowhere near a world cup match again. I was very suprised about the consistant French fouling and poor sportsmanship, but if the ref lets it go they'll do that.

Reinhardt wrote:

scbriml wrote:

Revelation wrote:

Funny, AFAIK such protests weren't raised before the match...

Really? Maybe because the average England fan, like myself, was blissfully unaware of what was happening on the streets of Paris? Just a wild guess on my part.

It was classless, but to tar all England fans with that is simply disingenuous, just as many of the anti-England posts in this thread have been. I see some of the more vitriolic ones have been "cleaned up".

I'm as ready as the next one on this forum to bash the UK govt to hell and back over many topics, but the amoust of anti-english vitriol posts online particuarly on social media the last few days has actually really suprised me. I really wasn't aware so many people actually have such a nasty hatred of the English football team. I hope it's because of the govt and people are jumping on the team because of what a few isolated supporters and press do (which is silly but I could at least understand that). Very sad.

Thought the team played very well late first half the most of the 2nd half. First goal from France was superbly taken, questions to ask of the goalkeeper on that, but it was a clear foul leading up to the go so who knows what would have happened next. France like many world class teams have the ability to score out of nothing. They were nowhere in the 2nd half and didn't deserve to win but they got lucky with the missed penalty (should have been another) and again out of nothing some class play and they scored.

I think there are a good 6-7 England players who will become very very good, I just hope the rest of the team can be too. They did win the U21 world cup together, so there is hope for the future.

Still not convinced about the manager but lets see what Southgate does next.

Ref was appaling and should be nowhere near a world cup match again. I was very suprised about the consistant French fouling and poor sportsmanship, but if the ref lets it go they'll do that.

I think Southgate has done a good job at introducing new hungrier talented players into the England setup. Now it's time for a manager with a bit more depth and winning qualities.

The refereeing has been atrocious in the Quarters with the Ref in the Netherlands Argentina game handing out more cards than Hallmark and the Ref in the England France game seeming to leave his whistle and cards in the changing room.

Reinhardt wrote:

scbriml wrote:

Revelation wrote:

Funny, AFAIK such protests weren't raised before the match...

Really? Maybe because the average England fan, like myself, was blissfully unaware of what was happening on the streets of Paris? Just a wild guess on my part.

It was classless, but to tar all England fans with that is simply disingenuous, just as many of the anti-England posts in this thread have been. I see some of the more vitriolic ones have been "cleaned up".

I'm as ready as the next one on this forum to bash the UK govt to hell and back over many topics, but the amoust of anti-english vitriol posts online particuarly on social media the last few days has actually really suprised me. I really wasn't aware so many people actually have such a nasty hatred of the English football team. I hope it's because of the govt and people are jumping on the team because of what a few isolated supporters and press do (which is silly but I could at least understand that). Very sad.

Thought the team played very well late first half the most of the 2nd half. First goal from France was superbly taken, questions to ask of the goalkeeper on that, but it was a clear foul leading up to the go so who knows what would have happened next. France like many world class teams have the ability to score out of nothing. They were nowhere in the 2nd half and didn't deserve to win but they got lucky with the missed penalty (should have been another) and again out of nothing some class play and they scored.

I think there are a good 6-7 England players who will become very very good, I just hope the rest of the team can be too. They did win the U21 world cup together, so there is hope for the future.

Still not convinced about the manager but lets see what Southgate does next.

Ref was appaling and should be nowhere near a world cup match again. I was very suprised about the consistant French fouling and poor sportsmanship, but if the ref lets it go they'll do that.

Disclaimer: I'm an England supporter (if that wasn't already blindingly obvious).

My opinion of the game - I thought it was very close and didn't think England deserved to lose based on the 90 minutes. Had Kane scored the second penalty, extra time would have been nothing less than England deserved. I suspect it was quite an enjoyable game to watch for the neutrals, obviously enjoyable for the French and anyone desperate to see England lose, but it was agony for us England supporters.

My opinion of the ref - of course, to criticise the ref after your team has just lost simply opens oneself to accusations of being a poor loser. I don't believe I'm a poor loser and I congratulated France in this very thread not long after the game. That said, the ref was awful:
- I thought there was a clear foul when France regained possession immediately prior to their first goal.
- Kane was obviously fouled right on the edge of the box after he turned his defender (debatable if just outside or just inside the box, but a clear foul either way).
- Thankfully the ref's biggest blunder was corrected by VAR for England's second penalty (he was close to the incident so I cannot explain how he failed to see it as an clear foul with the defender not even looking at the ball).

Anyway, thanks for your unbiased opinion.

My unbiased opinion:

Deserve's got nothin' to do with it. ( ref: Clint Eastwood, Unforgiven )

If the ref is letting rough play go, then you play rough too.

Well indeed deserve doesn't do anything, you have to believe your time will come. As I said France are a class team and they showed the difference as to why they are world cup winners and England not.. those few moments of brilliance out of almost nothing. England generally can't do that.

Regarding the ref letting rough play go - I guarantee you that if England got rough he would have done something like red carded someone for nothing or a free kick right outside the box.

Just like that Croatia is gone. Wow, Argentina came to play.

Argentina shows up and took care of business. I guess those matches that goes 120mins + Penalty is finally taking its toll on Croatia?

For tomorrow, go Morocco.

NIKV69 wrote:

Just like that Croatia is gone. Wow, Argentina came to play.

Argentina played the way Brazil should have by pushing the pace & attacking.

aaway wrote:

NIKV69 wrote:

Just like that Croatia is gone. Wow, Argentina came to play.

Argentina played the way Brazil should have by pushing the pace & attacking.

Yep their second goal was pure hustle.

Good win for Argentina. Croatia ran out of steam and offered very little in attack.

A couple of moments of Messi magic - he’s a footballing genius. I’m really glad he’s going to get to play in a WC final.

A preliminary report of the autopsy of US sports journalist Grant Wahl who died during the WC has been determined from an abdominal aortic aneurysm. This is a 'silent killer' when the main blood artery from the heart to the abdomen increases from about 1 inch (25 cm) to as much as 3 inches (75 cm) and the thinning walls bust. My father nearly died from one, but it was caught in time and lived for 7 more years. It can as it advances cause some of the symptoms Wahl had that can confuse doctors but as in his case, can cause a very sudden death.
https://www.espn.com/soccer/fifa-world- ... urysm-wife

Yesterday we got and today we get two of the most unexpected matches in this or any WC, France vs. Morocco and Argentina vs.Croatia. Croatia was no pushover and give Argentina some fight but finally lost 3-0. I hope France - Morocco is an entertaining and close match with no issues as to the officials and their calls or wins on PK's but I would bet on France winning. If it is France vs. Argentina, with the stars both teams have, it should see a huge worldwide final viewership.

OMG bicycle off the post! Morocco needed that!!!!!!!!!

What an ending but France was much the best. Great run from Morocco. They have much to be proud of. I give the edge to France in the final. They are much more potent on offense and Argentina will have to get everyone back much more so Messi won't have numbers on his runs.

NIKV69 wrote:

What an ending but France was much the best. Great run from Morocco. They have much to be proud of. I give the edge to France in the final. They are much more potent on offense and Argentina will have to get everyone back much more so Messi won't have numbers on his runs.

France can win without their best players. Mbappe played like shit and France still dominated. Argentina cannot win without Messi playing well. France will win. This is the exact same team that won four years ago, except they’re older (and they were really young back then) and way more experienced. This is a dynasty.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AldoRossiSI/ ... 0041177089

https://mobile.twitter.com/EdwardHobden ... 0577766400

https://mobile.twitter.com/Afroditaa198 ... 5228774402

https://mobile.twitter.com/Justice_foru ... 4182729729

Can any French posters comment on what's going on in Paris right now ? Are things this bad or is it confined to just a few small areas ?

alberchico wrote:

https://mobile.twitter.com/AldoRossiSI/status/1603159200041177089

https://mobile.twitter.com/EdwardHobden ... 0577766400

https://mobile.twitter.com/Afroditaa198 ... 5228774402

https://mobile.twitter.com/Justice_foru ... 4182729729

Can any French posters comment on what's going on in Paris right now ? Are things this bad or is it confined to just a few small areas ?

Wonder what those hypocritical tankies who criticized the English fans have to say about this…

leader1 wrote:

alberchico wrote:

https://mobile.twitter.com/AldoRossiSI/status/1603159200041177089

https://mobile.twitter.com/EdwardHobden ... 0577766400

https://mobile.twitter.com/Afroditaa198 ... 5228774402

https://mobile.twitter.com/Justice_foru ... 4182729729

Can any French posters comment on what's going on in Paris right now ? Are things this bad or is it confined to just a few small areas ?

Wonder what those hypocritical tankies who criticized the English fans have to say about this…

I’m sure they’ll claim they were England fans in disguise.