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SLCUT2777
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RE: DL Stopping SFO - HNL Service

Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:40 am

Quoting 777fan (Reply 99):
One must not forget the UT-HI connections to the Mormon Temple that has been discussed ad nauseum on this site.

The temple, church university (BYU-Hawaii) as well as the Polynesian Cultural Center all of which are along the north coast of Oahu. But this hardly explains why Hawaii beyond perhaps a single daily SLC-MNL service will work form the DL SLC hub. The outer island airports (OGG, KOA, LIH) for DL will be best served with California connections rather than directly from SLC.

Quoting Jetlanta (Reply 96):
I will say that Leo Mullin is a fine human being who wasn't the right leader for Delta at the particular moment in history. The way you disparage him is unbecoming and frankly childish.

Which is why I would NEVER hire you as a consultant. If you can't be that discretionary about your judgement of leadership AS WELL AS MANAGEMENT, then I would have to say your level of professionalism leaves much to be desired.
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jetlanta
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RE: DL Stopping SFO - HNL Service

Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:59 am

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 100):
Which is why I would NEVER hire you as a consultant. If you can't be that discretionary about your judgement of leadership AS WELL AS MANAGEMENT, then I would have to say your level of professionalism leaves much to be desired.

Well, clearly you will never be in a position to hire me. So no worries there.

Your sources come up dry on the DFW question?
 
jkudall
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RE: DL Stopping SFO - HNL Service

Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:53 am

There is no way in hell DL would give up a perfectly fine hub operation in SLC for DIA. By doing that, DL would be going in the complete opposite direction of their current strategy of reducing operational costs (as is the strategy of almost all airlines these days). DL has given absolutely no indication that they would abandon SLC, and have in fact said on many occasions that they are very pleased with it.

SLCUT2777,
I have no idea what made you so anti-SLC lately. I don't really care and I have nothing against you, but it is strange. You have sure made a complete 180 of your opinion of SLC from about six months ago. I recall you used to be one of the biggest SLC cheerleaders on this forum. You keep saying you are a "realist" but you are ignoring facts and are going off of your "sources" which seem to have no idea what is actually going on. Being a fellow Salt Laker, I am surprised you would publicly put SLC down on a forum like this for no apparent reason.

Like I said, I have nothing against you. It is perfectly fine to have opposing opinions, and I have just given mine. So lets all just agree to disagree.
 
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RE: DL Stopping SFO - HNL Service

Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:12 pm

Quoting Jetlanta (Reply 98):
I don't mind at all, but I'm anxious to hear what our friend's sources have to say first.



Quoting Jetlanta (Reply 101):
Your sources come up dry on the DFW question?

Okay, so SLCUT2777 can't come up with a source (don't know why that was necessary for you to tell me about:

Quoting LawnDart (Reply 97):
Would you mind divulging where you think DL was giving "serious consideration" on moving the DFW hub to?

Spill...
 
jetlanta
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RE: DL Stopping SFO - HNL Service

Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:46 pm

When it became apparent that DFW was potentially a futile situation, Delta began exploring alternatives. The primary focus was on AUS. This was in the 1999 time period, just before Bergstrom opened. There was significant amount of study done on the project. The hub at DFW was "closed" and a scaled-down hub at AUS was modeled. If I recall correctly, Delta even had high level talks with AUS officials. But most of the work was internal, and clearly hush-hush, given the ramifications.

Eventually the analysis showed significant risk associated with the concept and the decision was made to try to make DFW work. For the next couple of years, DL tried many different strategies, including the final, ill-fated, RJ focus. The reality was that AA was simply too much to compete with at DFW. Eventually, a while after 9/11, the decision was made to give up on DFW and not attempt to replace it at AUS or anywhere else. From that moment, DL was completely re-committed to SLC, as it's only not eastern hub.

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