BA 77W W11 Routes

B747forever · Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:34 pm

On what routes will BA deploy the 77W this coming winter?

jfk777 · Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:39 pm

A very short list since BA has so few 77W's. I wish BA would order 50 77W's to standardize the long haul fleet and ditch the 747-400 gas guzzlers.

jetblast · Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:41 pm

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 1):

A very short list since BA has so few 77W's. I wish BA would order 50 77W's to standardize the long haul fleet and ditch the 747-400 gas guzzlers.

I think some of the gold card holders who frequent J class will be upset that the upper deck has suddenly disappeared

jfk777 · Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:01 pm

Quoting jetblast (Reply 2):
I think some of the gold card holders who frequent J class will be upset that the upper deck has suddenly disappeared

Save for the 20 A380 BA may eventually have, that is going to happen since the A380 will be the only upper deck plane BA will have.

jetblast · Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:04 pm

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 3):
Save for the 20 A380 BA may eventually have, that is going to happen since the A380 will be the only upper deck plane BA will have.

Maybe so, but the A380 upper deck is a bit less private and quiet than the 747...

To answer the original question, I believe I saw on the intranet that JFK will still keep their daily 77W although I can't confirm it.

pawsleykat · Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:26 pm

As far as I'm aware, the 777-300ERs will be doing the 2nd daily ORD run, the 1800 JFK service and the BA5/6 LHR-NRT-LHR daily. Pretty much the same as it's doing now

JG

sam1987 · Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:37 pm

I thought that one of the HKG services will be 77W this winter? Are there still only three in service? When will the others arrive?

AZA330 · Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:13 pm

Quoting sam1987 (Reply 6):
When will the others arrive?

One should be here right about this month, actually. I believe that by the end of 2011 they should have all 6 of them (maybe the last one will come in early 2012).

I agree that the upper deck of the 747 is fairly unique when it comes to private and quiet.. and the seats on the windows have lots of extra room...

RyanairGuru · Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:23 pm

Quoting sam1987 (Reply 6):
I thought that one of the HKG services will be 77W this winter

HKG is reverting to a 772 for the winter, but it will be interesting to see if both existing flights get up-gauged to 77W or 744 next year to cover the Kangaroo Route traffic. They're replacing daily QF with 3 weekly BA which does sound like a big drop...

kaitak · Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:37 pm

Quoting sam1987 (Reply 6):
I thought that one of the HKG services will be 77W this winter? Are there still only three in service? When will the others arrive?

I thought I saw on the AirlineRoute emails that one of the HKG flights would be a 77W this Winter. I understand that 'STBD and 'BE will be coming in Nov/Dec.

Virginblue4 · Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:20 pm

Quoting kaitak (Reply 9):
I thought I saw on the AirlineRoute emails that one of the HKG flights would be a 77W this Winter.

I found this on their website.

London Heathrow – Hong Kong BA027/028 Boeing 777-300ER (F14J56W44Y183) replaces 747-400 (F14J52W36Y235)

This is for W11.

cedarjet · Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:21 am

Had a great flight on the 182 JFK-LHR last night, it was my birthday so 50A (last row) became 14A. Thank you BA, you are the best!

A few notes - Y is 2-4-3, much better and more flexible than 3-3-3. The seats are lettered AB-CDEF-HJK, missing out G. Seatguru.com shows 3-4-3 down the back, hope that is corrected soon! BA is not EK or AF! J class is identical to Club World found on the 777-200 and 747 fleet; then again, why mess with the best J class in the air? The -300 has bigger and clearer screens on PTV, with animated menus and an enhanced moving map. My flight was on Charlie, the newest of the fleet. If I pressed my face up against the window, I could see my reflection in the engine cowling. Didn't get a good look at the new F product but it looked great from what I could see. On my flight, it was the FO's leg, and his first time on the -300. Which is very impressive, he put it down like it was on a parachute of feathers. He said the -300 has a higher approach speed with a shallower deck angle, which he seemed to find helpful. We rolled out with idle reverse.

I hope you have a chance to fly BA's latest dream machine. You will really love it, I think!

qf002 · Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:30 am

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 11):
Y is 2-4-3

You sure about that? Looks like 3-3-3 to me...

Viscount724 · Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:56 am

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 11):
A few notes - Y is 2-4-3, much better and more flexible than 3-3-3.

Not according to BA. All their informtion shows 3-3-3 for the 77W. Or is their own website wrong? I find that hard to believe.

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 11):
Seatguru.com shows 3-4-3 down the back, hope that is corrected soon!

Look again. Seatguru shows 3-3-3.

scrappy27 · Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:16 am

BA27 to HKG will be on the 77W from winter schedule... config is 3-3-3

ChazPilot · Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:10 am

Quoting jetblast (Reply 2):

I bet they won't be upset about not getting stuck behind WTP+ on that one 744 configeration anymore!

vhtje · Fri Aug 19, 2011 7:55 am

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 11):
A few notes - Y is 2-4-3, much better and more flexible than 3-3-3.

W/Y+ is 2-4-2, Y is 3-3-3

B747forever · Fri Aug 19, 2011 8:21 am

Can someone working at BA please confirm what routes the 77W will be used on? I wish BA could distinguish between the 772ER and 77W on their website.

flythere · Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:22 am

Quoting sam1987 (Reply 6):
I thought that one of the HKG services will be 77W this winter? Are there still only three in service? When will the others arrive?

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 8):
HKG is reverting to a 772 for the winter, but it will be interesting to see if both existing flights get up-gauged to 77W or 744 next year to cover the Kangaroo Route traffic. They're replacing daily QF with 3 weekly BA which does sound like a big drop...

BA031 LHR1200 – 0655+1HKG 777 357
BA025 LHR1840 – 1315+1HKG 744 D
BA027 LHR2200 – 1650+1HKG 77W D
BA032 HKG0900 – 1500LHR 777 146
BA026 HKG2315 – 0455+1LHR 744 D
BA028 HKG2345 – 0540+1LHR 77W D

aerdingus · Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:37 am

Quoting virginblue4 (Reply 10):
London Heathrow – Hong Kong BA027/028 Boeing 777-300ER (F14J56W44Y183) replaces 747-400 (F14J52W36Y235)

I'm flying BA to HKG in Nov. I paid €70 for the twin seats with the missing window seat down the back of the 747. Is the best I can hope for a refund afterwards, or will there be some amazing rejiggery where I will still get a decent seat.....

BA174 · Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:39 am

Quoting jetblast (Reply 4):
To answer the original question, I believe I saw on the intranet that JFK will still keep their daily 77W although I can't confirm it.

JFK goes all jumbo in the winter

SKAirbus · Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:48 am

I am flying to HKG in December on the BA25 on the out, returning on the BA28 on the return leg.

Will it be 744 LHR-HKG and 77W on HKG-LHR in December/January?

Cheers.

richardw · Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:42 am

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 19):
I'm flying BA to HKG in Nov. I paid €70 for the twin seats with the missing window seat down the back of the 747. Is the best I can hope for a refund afterwards, or will there be some amazing rejiggery where I will still get a decent seat.....

B77W has some twin seats at the back, I've sat in them, not as many as the B744, so you may be allocated these on a B77W if you were one of the first to book them. Perhaps have a look at your booking on ba.com.

scrappy27 · Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:51 am

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 19):

best get in touch with BA to check then

B747forever · Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:11 am

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 21):
Will it be 744 LHR-HKG and 77W on HKG-LHR in December/January?

It seems so according to

Quoting flythere (Reply 18):
BA031 LHR1200 – 0655+1HKG 777 357
BA025 LHR1840 – 1315+1HKG 744 D
BA027 LHR2200 – 1650+1HKG 77W D
BA032 HKG0900 – 1500LHR 777 146
BA026 HKG2315 – 0455+1LHR 744 D
BA028 HKG2345 – 0540+1LHR 77W D

runway23 · Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:22 am

Quoting B747forever (Reply 24):
It seems so according to

Quoting flythere (Reply 18):
BA031 LHR1200 – 0655+1HKG 777 357
BA025 LHR1840 – 1315+1HKG 744 D
BA027 LHR2200 – 1650+1HKG 77W D
BA032 HKG0900 – 1500LHR 777 146
BA026 HKG2315 – 0455+1LHR 744 D
BA028 HKG2345 – 0540+1LHR 77W D

Those schedules are for Summer 2012. BA 31 and BA 32 do not exist in Winter 2011/12.

BA 27/28 will be a daily 77W during Winter 2011/12 also though.

aerdingus · Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:24 am

Quoting richardw (Reply 22):
B77W has some twin seats at the back, I've sat in them, not as many as the B744, so you may be allocated these on a B77W if you were one of the first to book them. Perhaps have a look at your booking on ba.com.

Quoting scrappy27 (Reply 23):
best get in touch with BA to check then

Thanks

Quoting flythere (Reply 18):
BA031 LHR1200 – 0655+1HKG 777 357
BA025 LHR1840 – 1315+1HKG 744 D
BA027 LHR2200 – 1650+1HKG 77W D
BA032 HKG0900 – 1500LHR 777 146
BA026 HKG2315 – 0455+1LHR 744 D
BA028 HKG2345 – 0540+1LHR 77W D

Cheers for that, I'm on the BA 25 & 26, which are still 744s

B747forever · Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:25 am

Quoting runway23 (Reply 25):
Those schedules are for Summer 2012. BA 31 and BA 32 do not exist in Winter 2011/12.

Opps, my bad. BA will not take over QFs LHR-HKG before next summer.

industrybuff · Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:41 am

So for the month of September do we know which days/flight numbers the T777-300 operates to ORD ? or even JFK ?

Im keen to ride on her and see what the fuss is about ....

Thanks
Industrybuff

vv701 · Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:59 am

Quoting industrybuff (Reply 28):
So for the month of September do we know which days/flight numbers the T777-300 operates to ORD ? or even JFK ?

I believe BA are currently operatring their 77Ws on LHR-ORD-LHR BA297/296 and LHR-JFK-LHR BA179/182. I assume this will continue up to and including 29 October.

richardw · Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:49 pm

Quoting industrybuff (Reply 28):
Im keen to ride on her and see what the fuss is about .

I've been on BA182, I think the fuss is the new seats, better IFE and cabin interior http://www.britishairways.com/travel/new-world-traveller/public/en_gb

laca773 · Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:42 pm

Does BA send the 77W to JFK because of it being their "premier" route? It seems like a waste for an a/c with great economics and range to use on one of their shortest longhaul routes. I'd think SIN would go to a 77W as well.

kaitak · Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:24 pm

Quoting laca773 (Reply 31):
Does BA send the 77W to JFK because of it being their "premier" route? It seems like a waste for an a/c with great economics and range to use on one of their shortest longhaul routes. I'd think SIN would go to a 77W as well.

They only have five right now, so when they get more, they will almost certainly go to places like SIN. However, although JFK is a short route, it is the airline's premier route, with very product conscious passengers (and strong competition). It's important to put a top class product on that route.

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 11):
On my flight, it was the FO's leg, and his first time on the -300. Which is very impressive, he put it down like it was on a parachute of feathers.

Very nicely put!

APYu · Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:38 pm

Quoting kaitak (Reply 32):
They only have five right now, so when they get more, they will almost certainly go to places like SIN

They only have three at the moment

B747forever · Fri Aug 19, 2011 7:54 pm

Will be use the 77W during the winter on BA 297/296 (LHR-ORD-LHR)?

slinky09 · Fri Aug 19, 2011 8:13 pm

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 11):
shows 3-4-3 down the back, hope that is corrected soon! BA is not EK or AF! J class is identical to Club World found on the 777-200 and 747 fleet; then again,

Are you serious, ever flown 9W in J? Or even VS?

scrappy27 · Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:48 am

Quoting kaitak (Reply 32):
They only have five right now

Eh??? I don't think so

GSTBA · Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:33 am

BA's 4th 77W (G-STBD) will be delivered to CWL on the first week of October. It is planned enter service 28th October 2011

BA's 5th 77W (G-STBE) will be delivered to CWL mid December and is planned to enter service on the 7th January 2012

BA's 6th and final 77W (G-STBF) will be delivered to CWL in early February 2012 and is planned to enter service 24th February 2012

The planned W11 operation for the 77W fleet is currently showing as follows:

30th October 2011 to 31st December 2011

BA005/BA006 LHR-NRT-LHR Daily
BA027/BA028 LHR-HKG-LHR Daily
BA177/BA174 LHR-JFK-LHR x1

01st January 2012 to 06th January 2012

BA005/BA006 LHR-NRT-LHR Daily
BA027/BA028 LHR-HKG-LHR Daily
BA177/BA174 LHR-JFK-LHR Tue to Sat

07th January 2012 to 23rd February 2012

BA005/BA006 LHR-NRT-LHR Daily
BA027/BA028 LHR-HKG-LHR Daily
BA177/BA174 LHR-JFK-LHR Tue to Sat
BA199/BA198 LHR-BOM-LHR Daily

24th February 2012 to 17th March 2012

BA005/BA006 LHR-NRT-LHR Daily
BA027/BA028 LHR-HKG-LHR Daily
BA177/BA174 LHR-JFK-LHR Tue to Sat
BA199/BA198 LHR-BOM-LHR Daily
BA295/BA294 LHR-ORD-LHR Daily

18th March 2012 to 24th March 2012

BA005/BA006 LHR-NRT-LHR Daily
BA027/BA028 LHR-HKG-LHR Daily
BA177/BA174 LHR-JFK-LHR Tue to Sun
BA199/BA198 LHR-BOM-LHR Daily

THIS INFORMATION ABOVE IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE

industrybuff · Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:17 am

Can any one at BA perhaps shed some light on 77W ops ex LHR to any destination for the month of SEPT 11 ?

Im keen to ZED fare and take her for a ride...

Cheers
Industrybuff

qf002 · Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:25 am

Quoting GSTBA (Reply 37):
18th March 2012 to 24th March 2012

BA005/BA006 LHR-NRT-LHR Daily
BA027/BA028 LHR-HKG-LHR Daily
BA177/BA174 LHR-JFK-LHR Tue to Sun
BA199/BA198 LHR-BOM-LHR Daily

Hmm wonder where the frame that's feed up from the ORD service is going to go...

B747forever · Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:52 am

Quoting GSTBA (Reply 37):

That is great. Thank you very much.

vv701 · Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:56 am

Quoting industrybuff (Reply 38):
Can any one at BA perhaps shed some light on 77W ops ex LHR to any destination for the month of SEPT 11 ?

Quoting VV701 (Reply 29):
I believe BA are currently operatring their 77Ws on LHR-ORD-LHR BA297/296 and LHR-JFK-LHR BA179/182. I assume this will continue up to and including 29 October.

The third aircraft is currently operating LHR-NRT-LHR (BA005/06).

GSTBA · Sun Aug 21, 2011 12:38 pm

Quoting qf002 (Reply 39):
Hmm wonder where the frame that's feed up from the ORD service is going to go...

Could be that one of the 77W's is planned to undergo checks at CWL at the end of March.

raggi · Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:23 pm

Slightly opp topic, but how is the 77W faring with BA? Are they pleased with its performance and thus can we expect more orders soon?

raggi

jacobin777 · Sun Aug 21, 2011 2:35 pm

Quoting APYu (Reply 33):
Quoting kaitak (Reply 32):
They only have five right now, so when they get more, they will almost certainly go to places like SIN

They only have three at the moment

Quoting GSTBA (Reply 37):
BA's 6th and final 77W (G-STBF) will be delivered to CWL in early February 2012 and is planned to enter service 24th February 2012

Another 30 would work I think..

kaitak744 · Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:24 am

Quoting GSTBA (Reply 37):
24th February 2012 to 17th March 2012

BA005/BA006 LHR-NRT-LHR Daily
BA027/BA028 LHR-HKG-LHR Daily
BA177/BA174 LHR-JFK-LHR Tue to Sat
BA199/BA198 LHR-BOM-LHR Daily
BA295/BA294 LHR-ORD-LHR Daily

Based on this, I created a visual of the fleet usage.
Note that airplane D can allow any member of the fleet to be down for maintenance; all day 7 departures (BOM, ORD, HKG, and NRT) depart and arrive within that period.

Click on the image to expand it.

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