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Final UA DC-8 Routes

Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:29 pm

What were the final DC-8 routes for United in 1988-1990?

How were they interior-wise? Did they have movie screen projectors and historic coach seating or did they get retrofits in the 80s?

I read on this forum that being in the back of one during turbulence was terrifying  

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RE: Final UA DC-8 Routes

Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:53 pm

In 1988/1989, United had a few DC-8-73s left, the newer ones that were re engined with CFM power plant, the older ones were gone already. It was at that time United decided to phase out the last DC-8s and order 757s.

I remember spotting one of those in ORD back in 1989. Now AFAIK the final revenue flight was in 1991 from SFO to somewhere in Hawaii, not sure which destination exactly. The aircraft was ferried back to SFO. A lot of DC-8 pilots at United switched to the 747 or 767.

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RE: Final UA DC-8 Routes

Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:01 pm

Quoting American 767 (Reply 1):
In 1988/1989, United had a few DC-8-73s left, the newer ones that were re engined with CFM power plant

Not to be nit picky, but all DC-8-73s had CFMs.

DC-8-61/62/63 were the original P&W powered aircraft. When they were re engined in the early 1980s, they were re designated DC-8-71/72/73s.

All of UA's DC-8-61s that were still operational in 1981 (one aircraft had been lost at PDX in 1978) were re engined with CFMs, and stayed with UA for another decade.

UA did not re engine their DC-8-62s; these aircraft were withdrawn from service.

UA never had any DC-8-63s (they considered ordering some -63Fs to augment their fleet of -54Fs, but realized the bellies of their then-on order 747s and DC-10s would be able to provide additional cargo capacity), so UA never flew any DC-8-73s.

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RE: Final UA DC-8 Routes

Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:18 pm

Quoting American 767 (Reply 1):
In 1988/1989, United had a few DC-8-73s left

Hi guys, they were DC-8-71s, not -73s. UA never flew the DC-8-63. That last -71 was withdrawn in 1992. IIRC most of UA's last DC-8s then went to UPS. Not sure of all the routes, but they did come into SEA until the end.
 
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RE: Final UA DC-8 Routes

Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:33 pm

From OAG, UAL DC-8 routes Dec-15, 1989 (may have missed some)

DEN:
EWR
HNL
IAD
LAX
ORD
PHL
PDX
SAN
SFO

IAD
BDL
DEN
EWR
ORD
SAN
SFO

LAX
EWR
ORD
PHL

ORD
BOS
CLE
CUN
DEN
EWR
IAD
LAX
MIA
PDX
SFO
SJO
SEA

SFO
DEN
EWR
IAD
KOA
LAX
PDX
SEA
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RE: Final UA DC-8 Routes

Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:22 pm

I flew on one in the summer of 1990 from DEN to IAD. We did not watch a movie, but I think they may have had movie screens that pulled down from the ceiling. They did offer headsets for music.

Oddly, the interior looked almost like a brand-new airplane. It had large, overhead bins that were fully enclosed. Seats were over all charcoal-grey with a checker-square pattern alternating in orange and magenta-burgundy. First class had grey leather seats. Bulkheads had a tapestry-carpet covering that had a multi-colored design on it that resembled a peacock. Some of the DC-10's had this same interior, but other than that I never saw it on another UAL aircraft.
 
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Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:26 pm

Quoting American 767 (Reply 1):
In 1988/1989, United had a few DC-8-73s left, the newer ones that were re engined with CFM power plant, the older ones were gone already. It was at that time United decided to phase out the last DC-8s and order 757s.

United never had one DC-8-73. They had 30 DC-8-61's, one of which was destroyed in an accident near PDX. They purchased one -61 from JAL and converted them with CFM power to DC-8-71's. By older ones, I think you are referring to the DC-8-51's and DC-8-62's. The DC-8-21's were retired in January of 1978, and replaced by 727-222A's. The DC-8-51's were retired in late 1980, and the DC-8-62's in 1984, although the airline operated all cargo DC-8-54's until 1985.

The entire fleet of DC-8-71's were sold to GPA Leasing in 1989-1990 and then leased back, for periods of a few month to a little more than two years. The last DC-8-71 was retired in January of 1992 last operating the OGG-SFO route.
 
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RE: Final UA DC-8 Routes

Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:59 pm

As an enthusiastic young spotter in the late 80's at KSJC I remember many times watching the DEN bound United DC 8 depart via the overhead 360 Loupe departure procedure. Just about the biggest plane around SJC at that time as I recall.
 
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RE: Final UA DC-8 Routes

Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:33 pm

Last UA DC-8 flight was SFO-KOA, or maybe KOA-SFO. 27 Oct 1991, maybe?
 
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RE: Final UA DC-8 Routes

Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:22 pm

Quoting milesrich (Reply 6):
United never had one DC-8-73. They had 30 DC-8-61's, one of which was destroyed in an accident near PDX. They purchased one -61 from JAL and converted them with CFM power to DC-8-71's. By older ones, I think you are referring to the DC-8-51's and DC-8-62's. The DC-8-21's were retired in January of 1978, and replaced by 727-222A's. The DC-8-51's were retired in late 1980, and the DC-8-62's in 1984, although the airline operated all cargo DC-8-54's until 1985.


Actually, N8075U was never converted to a DC-8-71. It left UAL 12/82 and was leased to Arrow Air. I received my DC-8 type rating in this aircraft in June 1984 at DEN. It still carried the Saul Bass 1975 colors with Arrow Air titles.

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RE: Final UA DC-8 Routes

Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:41 pm

Quoting milesrich (Reply 6):
one of which was destroyed in an accident near PDX

Yes, that was flight 173. It ran out of fuel.

Quoting timz (Reply 8):
Last UA DC-8 flight was SFO-KOA, or maybe KOA-SFO. 27 Oct 1991, maybe?

The last revenue flight was SFO-KOA, the DC-8 was then ferried back to SFO from KOA without passengers. Not sure about the exact date but I do know it was in 1991. United was already flying the 757 at that time.
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RE: Final UA DC-8 Routes

Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:57 pm

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 3):
Hi guys, they were DC-8-71s, not -73s. UA never flew the DC-8-63. That last -71 was withdrawn in 1992. IIRC most of UA's last DC-8s then went to UPS. Not sure of all the routes, but they did come into SEA until the end.

Actually I'm pretty sure that non of the ex UA DC871's went to UPS. They had the odd A and C belly doors underneath the a/c which was unusual to the other stretch DC8's. Emery had a handful of them, including N8079U which crashed in Feb 2000 just out of MHR. ATI also had quite a few of them flying for BAX Cargo. Florida West had 1, N872SJ which still flies as N872CA for National. Lan Chile/FAST Air had a few including CC-CAR.

Quoting American 767 (Reply 10):
Quoting timz (Reply 8):Last UA DC-8 flight was SFO-KOA, or maybe KOA-SFO. 27 Oct 1991, maybe?
The last revenue flight was SFO-KOA, the DC-8 was then ferried back to SFO from KOA without passengers. Not sure about the exact date but I do know it was in 1991. United was already flying the 757 at that time.

I believe it was either on Halloween or the day before. The last DC871 was only ferried to SFO because it had gone mechanical on the last day of it's revenue service and they had, I believe, a DC10 cover the route. The 757 being with UA didn't really have all that much to do with replacing the DC8's then. I'm pretty sure that they were not using them to Hawaii back then.

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RE: Final UA DC-8 Routes

Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:15 am

I flew on a UA DC-8-71 on the last day of DC-8 service at United in 1991. Was a mid morning flight DTW-ORD, then the aircraft continued on to KOA, then ferried back to SFO as mentioned in the last post. Though we only flew on the short DTW-ORD leg the Douglas appeared to be in great condition and it was a fun flight in F to boot. Got some pretty nice video on the flight, sadly in 1991 it was old school VHS and I currently don't have a working VCR. Best part of the flight had to be the great sound effects coming from the 4 CFM;'s on climb out. The DC-8 version of those engines had what I believe was a one of a kind sound that sure was pleasing to those of us who appreciate that sort of thing.

One thing unique about the cabins on the 70's series versions that was part of the remodel to enclose the overhead bins and give the cabin the wide body look was as part of the side wall design the large windows had a strange looking octagonal design that actually covered a very small part of the window, I know at the very least the Delta & United birds had them. It was all a part of trying to make the interior seem more modern.

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RE: Final UA DC-8 Routes

Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:01 am

Non Rev'd on one in October '89 SFO-HNL. It was, thankfully, brought out as an extra section to accommodate about a hundred missconnects (and a few lucky nonrevs) stuck in SFO due to weather issues back east. That was my last DC-8 flight. "Super 8 to the Aloha State"

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RE: Final UA DC-8 Routes

Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:52 am

I definitely used to see them at PHL around that time, but I was never sure where they went to.

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RE: Final UA DC-8 Routes

Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:07 am

Quoting WA707atMSP (Reply 2):
one aircraft had been lost at PDX in 1978

I totally remember that night here in Portland as a kid, I ran to the garage to tell my Dad, he thought I was talking about a movie I had watched on TV. IIRC, there was a prisoner that was being transported on this flight, he even helped people out of the plane, but disappeared and was never found.

My last DC-8-71 flight on UA was PDX-SFO, it was a late afternoon departure in 1990, the same day a BA concorde came to PDX, we waited for the concorde that pulled up right next to our aircraft, we were in F, and had a great view of it coming in on concourse D. We were late departing, and had a connection to HNL in SFO, we made the flight to HNL by running through SFO quickly, The 747-200 was bound for HNL-AKL-SYD, we ferried an engine under the right wing, to a stranded 747 in HNL, it was quite an eventful journey, the F all the way through made it even more cool, sat right in the nose of the 747.
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RE: Final UA DC-8 Routes

Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:46 am

I remember going onboard a UA DC-8 in LAS in 89 or 90. Anyone know what routes it operated out of LAS around that time? Also, any ramp rats remember if it was easy to load? How roomy were the bins?
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Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:51 am

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 16):
Also, any ramp rats remember if it was easy to load? How roomy were the bins?

I didn't work them when they were with UA but when they were with Emery. The fact that the A and C belly doors were actually underneath the plane made loading a pain. We would have to have someone stand on the belt loader just to pull the freight in and it could sometimes make for a crazy balancing act. N872SJ, now N872CA, was a real bear. One night when I was closing the A belly door it had come loose from the track and almost fell out of the plane.

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Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:58 am

I flew one in the summer of 1990 from IAD to LAX.
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Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:30 am

United used small igloo containers for baggage that were loaded directly into the lower cargo compartments to speed up the process (in theory) which was the reason for the bottom mounted cargo doors. I think this system was only used on the -61. I flew the ex-UAL -62s at Arrow Air and I don't remember them...but it's been 30 years.
 
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RE: Final UA DC-8 Routes

Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:52 am

Quoting maxpower1954 (Reply 19):
United used small igloo containers for baggage that were loaded directly into the lower cargo compartments to speed up the process (in theory) which was the reason for the bottom mounted cargo doors. I think this system was only used on the -61. I flew the ex-UAL -62s at Arrow Air and I don't remember them...but it's been 30 years.

The original DC-8's had containers for luggage that had rounded bottoms and a special lift and that fit into to load and move them to baggage claim.
 
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Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:12 am

Quoting American 767 (Reply 10):
The last revenue flight was SFO-KOA, the DC-8 was then ferried back to SFO from KOA without passengers

What was the reason for this? Usually, Last Revenue Flights of airplanes land at their maintenance base
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Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:15 am

Quoting IDAWA (Reply 21):
Quoting American 767 (Reply 10):The last revenue flight was SFO-KOA, the DC-8 was then ferried back to SFO from KOA without passengers
What was the reason for this? Usually, Last Revenue Flights of airplanes land at their maintenance base
Quoting FX1816 (Reply 11):
The last DC871 was only ferried to SFO because it had gone mechanical on the last day of it's revenue service and they had, I believe, a DC10 cover the route.

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Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:29 am

Quoting TOMMY767 (Thread starter):
I read on this forum that being in the back of one during turbulence was terrifying

I have two colleagues that were FAs on the Sterling and Scanair DC-8-63 in the 1980s - they both say the aft galley was the worst place to be during turbulence, it would bounce and shake violently and they were not allowed to leave coffee pots with coffee in them unattended on the galley counter as coffee would be all over the aft galley in just a few seconds.

I was a pax on the Scanair DC-8-63 two times and remember how impressed I was, fantastic aircraft hands down. The galleys were frickin' HUGE as they had hot meals for 252 pax and a duty free sale you could write a book about - sales onboard could generate the equivalent of $25,000 on a round-trip Scandinavia-Mediterranean holiday destination, my colleagues tell me. $25,000 was a lot of money in 1985... still is, mind you. On today's flights we are satisfied with $8,000 in the till.

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RE: Final UA DC-8 Routes

Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:52 pm

Quoting IDAWA (Reply 21):
What was the reason for this? Usually, Last Revenue Flights of airplanes land at their maintenance base

Another poster said that the bird went tech and had to ferry back.
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Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:58 pm

Quoting milesrich (Reply 20):
The original DC-8's had containers for luggage that had rounded bottoms and a special lift and that fit into to load and move them to baggage claim.
Quoting maxpower1954 (Reply 19):
United used small igloo containers for baggage that were loaded directly into the lower cargo compartments to speed up the process (in theory) which was the reason for the bottom mounted cargo doors
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RE: Final UA DC-8 Routes

Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:23 pm

In the spring of 1990 I flew on DC-8-71 (UA) from DEN-FLL , FLL to ORD and as I recall an equip sub from ORD-SFO..all on one trip!

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Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:37 pm

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 23):
I was a pax on the Scanair DC-8-63 two times and remember how impressed I was, fantastic aircraft hands down. The galleys were frickin' HUGE as they had hot meals for 252 pax and a duty free sale you could write a book about - sales onboard could generate the equivalent of $25,000 on a round-trip Scandinavia-Mediterranean holiday destination, my colleagues tell me. $25,000 was a lot of money in 1985... still is, mind you. On today's flights we are satisfied with $8,000 in the till.

Wow! That's pretty incredible.

Quoting Cody (Reply 5):

That's so weird how they were so new on the inside. I would have thought these oldies were total relics back in the day. Then again, I guess if a plane was delivered in 1968 and it was retired in 1991, that wouldnt even make it that old.
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Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:20 pm

I remember when UA started to re-engine the DC-8-61s. There was an article in the Chicago Tribune about UA wanting some flexibility. In keeping the DC-8s, UA could schedule flights that needed capacity beyond a 727-200, but would vary during the year. So, any given flight might see a 762 for part of the year, a DC-8 for part of the year, and a DC-10 for part of the year.
 
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Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:56 pm

Does anyone know if there are any photos or drawings available of the various DC-8 galleys? I find galley logistics fascinating and the DC-8 had plenty of variations.

Would Boeing have any drawings they could send me a copy of, you think?
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Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:16 am

Quoting TOMMY767 (Thread starter):
How were they interior-wise? Did they have movie screen projectors and historic coach seating or did they get retrofits in the 80s?
Quoting Cody (Reply 5):
the interior looked almost like a brand-new airplane.

I remember my first flight on a DC-8-71, UA EWR-SEA (or may have been IAD-SEA, can't remember which). After at least a couple of hundred flights on virtually all earlier DC-8 models on at least 10 airlines, the -71 seemed like a completely different aircraft. The only things reminiscent of earlier DC-8s were the big windows. The much higher performance from the CFM56s and totally different engine sound (and much less of it) seemed very strange.

Quoting FX1816 (Reply 11):
Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 3):
Hi guys, they were DC-8-71s, not -73s. UA never flew the DC-8-63. That last -71 was withdrawn in 1992. IIRC most of UA's last DC-8s then went to UPS.

Actually I'm pretty sure that none of the ex UA DC-8-71's went to UPS.

One fleet list shows that UPS did lease one ex-UA -71 (by then a -71F) for a couple of years in the 1994-96 period. It was N8083U at UA and was registered N783UP with UPS.

That aircraft as a -61 and -71 at UA.


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RE: Final UA DC-8 Routes

Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:48 am

Wow! Thanks for the info on the cargo loading on the 8!! I am using a kindle fire, so I cant figure out how to copy quotes. But the pic really is incredible! It looked like a pain in the parse actually!
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RE: Final UA DC-8 Routes

Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:40 am

Does anyone have a seat map of UA's DC8's from the final years of their operation?
If not a seat map, what was the cabin configuration in F / Y?

Thanks for the info,
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Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:16 am

Quoting drerx7 (Reply 24):
Quoting IDAWA (Reply 21):
What was the reason for this? Usually, Last Revenue Flights of airplanes land at their maintenance base

Another poster said that the bird went tech and had to ferry back.

This makes sense, thank you
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Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:45 pm

Quoting rydawg82 (Reply 32):
Does anyone have a seat map of UA's DC8's from the final years of their operation?
If not a seat map, what was the cabin configuration in F / Y?
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Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:47 pm

I still see an old DC-8 fly in to BFI in DHL colors once in a blue moon. I still think it is sexy and sharp looking. Does UPS have any left? And, are there any airlines left still flying them? I sure would like to ride on one again. Probably Africa, and that sadly wont happen for me.
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Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:23 am

I flew United DC-8's from the late 70's up through the late 80's. I remember that the first few times I flew them, they had absolutely monstrous seat pitch - I regarded them as the most comfortable planes in the air and always looked forward to seeing a DC-8 whenever I'd arrive at the gate for a transcon flight (the other possibilities were DC-10's and 747's).

Towards the end, though, they had definitely adopted a standard UA interior. The seats had the same pitch as every other type and the overhead bins made things feel a bit cramped. The windows also didn't line up with the seats, so you could easily end up in a row with really no window. I also remember them being kind of smelly. I started hoping *not* to get stuck on one towards the end, whenever I flew.
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Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:00 am

Quoting spacecadet (Reply 36):
The windows also didn't line up with the seats, so you could easily end up in a row with really no window. I also remember them being kind of smelly. I started hoping *not* to get stuck on one towards the end, whenever I flew

Yeah I noticed this too, even when in F class. My first DC-8 flight was DL in 1970, LAX-DAL-ATL-JFK, second was 10 years later flying EZ PDX-OGG-PDX, a DC-8-52 IIRC, then a UA 71 PDX-LAX, and last was 1990 PDX-SFO on UA. I sat in Y a couple times, and near the back you could smell jet fumes and it bounced around especially the long 71's.
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RE: Final UA DC-8 Routes

Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:28 pm

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 37):
Yeah I noticed this too, even when in F class. My first DC-8 flight was DL in 1970, LAX-DAL-ATL-JFK, second was 10 years later flying EZ PDX-OGG-PDX, a DC-8-52 IIRC, then a UA 71 PDX-LAX, and last was 1990 PDX-SFO on UA. I sat in Y a couple times, and near the back you could smell jet fumes and it bounced around especially the long 71's.

My first DC-8 flight was on Eastern from MIA to ORD in 1961, and my first United DC-8 flight was on January 4, 1962 from ORD to IDL. Over the next 28 years, I flew on many United DC-8's, of all types except the -62 which I never flew on. My first Stretch -61 flight was from PHL to ORD in 1968. My last DC-8 flight was on a Delta -71 from DTW to ATL in 1989 a few months before the end of Delta DC-8 service. I always found UA's DC-8's to be immaculate, although I didn't fly on a -71 in the last few years of service. Obviously, in turbulence, the back of the Stretch 8 was not the place to be but that goes for all aircraft, because tail always moves more in turbulence as it is farther from the center of gravity, the wing. The roughest flight I was ever on, or seemed to be on was a UA DC-8 in 1964 between ORD and PHL, and we were sitting in the rear lounge, just in front of the port side coach entrance door.
 
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RE: Final UA DC-8 Routes

Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:21 am

Quoting deltacto (Reply 34):
http://boardingarea.com/blogs/freque...-seat-map-united-airlines-dc-8-70/

Thank your for posting this!
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RE: Final UA DC-8 Routes

Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:02 am

Summer of 1990 (probably July) BOS-LAX early morning non-stop - stuck in my mind because at that time I thought I would never log a DC-8: so I just about peed my pants when I scored a non-rev seat in F (on a BA-issued ID-90 ticket) - and had the largest breakfast I had ever seen (on the ground or in the air!) came away wondering why European airlines couldn't up their game and offer the same kind of service as the American carriers...wow that seems like a long time ago... 
 
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RE: Final UA DC-8 Routes

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:20 pm

Quoting LHRBFSTrident (Reply 40):
I thought I would never log a DC-8

This was your first flight on a DC-8 and you thought it would also be your last one.
I've never been on a DC-8. 707 yes: I have flown on it once in my whole life.
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RE: Final UA DC-8 Routes

Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:48 am

What was the story with IFE? Were movies shown in F only, or throughout the cabin? The reason I ask is that, based upon the seat map linked above, the movie screens look to only be in First (unless I'm interpreting it wrong).

Did they have LCD video monitors toward the end, or was there some sort of projector/screen setup?

Quoting LGA777 (Reply 12):
Got some pretty nice video on the flight, sadly in 1991 it was old school VHS and I currently don't have a working VCR.

If you find a way to put it up on YouTube, please do. This would be a heck of a video to see!
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RE: Final UA DC-8 Routes

Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:42 pm

Quoting DeltaRules (Reply 42):
What was the story with IFE? Were movies shown in F only, or throughout the cabin? The reason I ask is that, based upon the seat map linked above, the movie screens look to only be in First (unless I'm interpreting it wrong).

Movies were shown in both F and Y. In Y there was a pull-down movie screen at the front of the Y cabin and another about half way back, much like all the 707s and DC-8s that had IFE systems in those days. No overhead monitors as far as I recall on the UA DC-8s.
 
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RE: Final UA DC-8 Routes

Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:53 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 43):
Movies were shown in both F and Y. In Y there was a pull-down movie screen at the front of the Y cabin and another about half way back, much like all the 707s and DC-8s that had IFE systems in those days. No overhead monitors as far as I recall on the UA DC-8s.

How did a large screen not interfere with cabin service lol? Were the ceilings that high?

Also did IFE run on cassette decks for streaming or actual projectors? At the time of retirement many a/c were already running on cassette.
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RE: Final UA DC-8 Routes

Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:28 pm

I regularly saw UA D8S in SJC during my days @ SJSU 89-91. If I remember correctly, were these mainly used on ORD-SJC-ORD?
 
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RE: Final UA DC-8 Routes

Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:20 pm

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 44):
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 43):
Movies were shown in both F and Y. In Y there was a pull-down movie screen at the front of the Y cabin and another about half way back, much like all the 707s and DC-8s that had IFE systems in those days. No overhead monitors as far as I recall on the UA DC-8s.

How did a large screen not interfere with cabin service lol? Were the ceilings that high?

You had to duck under the screens. Not that big of a problem. Movies on longhaul flights usually weren't shown until after the meal service was completed.
 
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RE: Final UA DC-8 Routes

Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:37 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 46):
You had to duck under the screens. Not that big of a problem. Movies on longhaul flights usually weren't shown until after the meal service was completed.

And movies were only shown on long flights, i.e., coast to coast. I don't think they started showing movies between Chicago and California until the late 80's or early 90's.
 
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RE: Final UA DC-8 Routes

Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:53 pm

Quoting milesrich (Reply 47):
I don't think they started showing movies between Chicago and California until the late 80's or early 90's.

I believe this to be true; my first and only D8S flight was in 1985, ORD-LAX with a stop in LAS which I want to say was a fuel stop. My family and I sat in Y class, about 2/3 of the way back. I remember this pretty vividly in part because of the epic mountain wave turbulence we endured; the nose pitched up pretty steeply, then down nearly as steeply. Suffice it to say, the view from the back looking forward was pretty awkward while cruise. I also remember the FAs hauling through the aisles shouting, "cups and glasses please, cups and glasses please!" shortly before they had to be seated while riding it out. At any rate, I don't remember seeing a movie screen; it would've been right in front of us from the earlier posts' descriptions.

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RE: Final UA DC-8 Routes

Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:52 pm

Quoting 777fan (Reply 48):
Quoting milesrich (Reply 47):
I don't think they started showing movies between Chicago and California until the late 80's or early 90's.

In the 1970s, UA (and AA) screened TV shows and documentaries on ORD / DTW - west coast flights. My lone UA DC-8 flight (PDX-ORD, in 1978) had an episode of ABC's "Wide World of Sports", and another program that I've long since forgotten.

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