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Atlas Air #605 Emergency Landing IAD/23JUN

Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:24 am

Atlas Air #605 left ROA for LUX and diverted to IAD. Landed 19L at 0251L. Surrounded by rescue equipment and remaining on runway over two hours after landing. No smoke/fire. Aircraft is 748/Q. Registration N850GT (cn 37570/1455) wearing Panalpina titles.

Apologies for the poor picture quality.
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RE: Atlas Air #605 Emergency Landing IAD/23JUN

Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:53 am

A/C eventually taxied under its own power to remote parking with fire/rescue escort. Crew disembarked via IAD mobile lounge. Reason for quick descent and divert unknown.

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RE: Atlas Air #605 Emergency Landing IAD/23JUN

Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:13 am

Quoting thorntot (Reply 1):
Reason for quick descent and divert unknown

A rapid diversion on a plane like the 744F usually points to fire(warning)/smoke/fumes. In such a case there is little time to waste.
 
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RE: Atlas Air #605 Emergency Landing IAD/23JUN

Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:48 am

Atlas operates 2 aircraft for Panalpina in their c/s and both are 748i F

They usually operate to/from HSV
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RE: Atlas Air #605 Emergency Landing IAD/23JUN

Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:21 pm

Database lists this frame as a Boeing 747-87UF/SCD.

Is it possible the long time spent on the runway after landing was to cool brakes following an overweight landing? Aircraft had been airbourne a mere 31 minutes and looking at Flight Aware did not appear to dump fuel.

[Edited 2013-06-23 05:24:50]
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RE: Atlas Air #605 Emergency Landing IAD/23JUN

Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:36 pm

Quoting thorntot (Thread starter):
Atlas Air #605 left ROA
Quoting thorntot (Reply 4):
Aircraft had been airbourne a mere 31 minutes

This flight departed from HSV, not ROA.
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RE: Atlas Air #605 Emergency Landing IAD/23JUN

Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:53 pm

The diverted aircraft parked at IAD left ROA...

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N...T/history/20130623/0630Z/KROA/KIAD

The previous leg was HSV - ROA, but the a/c spent time on the ground in ROA. Did it divert twice?





[Edited 2013-06-23 06:18:13]
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RE: Atlas Air #605 Emergency Landing IAD/23JUN

Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:21 pm

Look at the map in your link. The flight path is the green line, not the dashed blue line.

Flightaware does not show this flight on ROA's arrival page:
http://flightaware.com/live/airport/KROA/arrivals

When the flight diverted perhaps the controller put in a new flight plan, and used ROA as a dummy origin point which registered on flight aware. Just a guess. Or perhaps they originally did need the closest airport (ROA) then decided IAD was more suitable.
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RE: Atlas Air #605 Emergency Landing IAD/23JUN

Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:27 pm

The Panalpina operations are centred at HSV so it is likely that the flight departed there.

another reason is that the runway lenght at ROA is 6800 feet, hardly enough for a fully loaded 748F going across the Atlantic.

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RE: Atlas Air #605 Emergency Landing IAD/23JUN

Sun Jun 23, 2013 3:43 pm

The flight originated HSV. Double divert is the reason you are seeing ROA there. Fire alarm in the cargo deck. False alarm, if you haven't already guessed.
 
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RE: Atlas Air #605 Emergency Landing IAD/23JUN

Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:52 pm

If I still lived in my old house near the airport, I might have heard this flight depart.

It appears that as of 1700Z, the A/C is still at IAD.
 
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RE: Atlas Air #605 Emergency Landing IAD/23JUN

Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:12 am

From the Aviation Herald. . .

"An Atlas Air Boeing 747-800 freighter, registration N850GT performing freight flight KK-605 (scheduled dep Jun 23rd, act dep Jun 24th) from Huntsville,AL (USA) to Luxembourg (Luxembourg), was enroute at FL330 about 75nm westsouthwest of Washington's Dulles Airport when the crew declared emergency reporting an aft cargo fire indication. During the descent towards the Airport the crew reported a second, then a third and finally a fourth fire indication had occurred and advised they were stopping on the runway and disembarking the aircraft requesting emergency services to NOT open any of the lower cargo bays to not accelerate the fire before they had gotten off the aircraft but requesting to monitor the holds and discharge agent into the cargo holds if possible. The aircraft landed safely on runway 19L, during roll out the crew decided to vacate the runway onto taxiway K7 advising the fire indications had ceased, stopped adjacent to the runway and shut the aircraft down, fire crews attended the aircraft. After the engines had spooled down, the crew released brakes reporting they were getting rather hot and requesting the wheels being chocked, then reported they had just received another fire indication and requested a ladder to the #1 door. Fire services reported there were no indications of a fire or smoke from the outside and no heat indication, the cargo doors were still kept closed.

About one hour after landing preparations were made to taxi or tow the aircraft to the maintenance hangar, the crew was still on board of the aircraft at that time."
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RE: Atlas Air #605 Emergency Landing IAD/23JUN

Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:50 am

That report still isn't clear if there was a fire or not. Seems like quite an elaborate false alarm if not.
 
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RE: Atlas Air #605 Emergency Landing IAD/23JUN

Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:02 pm

So one fire alarm, you could probably write off as a faulty sensor, but 2, 3, then 4! I would not have wanted to be those pilots, because that would tend to indicate the fire was legit, and/or spreading. Glad everyone was ok, crazy false alarm though.

Quoting thorntot (Reply 11):
From the Aviation Herald. . .

"An Atlas Air Boeing 747-800 freighter, registration N850GT performing freight flight KK-605 (scheduled dep Jun 23rd, act dep Jun 24th) from Huntsville,AL (USA) to Luxembourg (Luxembourg), was enroute at FL330 about 75nm westsouthwest of Washington's Dulles Airport when the crew declared emergency reporting an aft cargo fire indication. During the descent towards the Airport the crew reported a second, then a third and finally a fourth fire indication had occurred and advised they were stopping on the runway and disembarking the aircraft requesting emergency services to NOT open any of the lower cargo bays to not accelerate the fire before they had gotten off the aircraft but requesting to monitor the holds and discharge agent into the cargo holds if possible. The aircraft landed safely on runway 19L, during roll out the crew decided to vacate the runway onto taxiway K7 advising the fire indications had ceased, stopped adjacent to the runway and shut the aircraft down, fire crews attended the aircraft. After the engines had spooled down, the crew released brakes reporting they were getting rather hot and requesting the wheels being chocked, then reported they had just received another fire indication and requested a ladder to the #1 door. Fire services reported there were no indications of a fire or smoke from the outside and no heat indication, the cargo doors were still kept closed.

About one hour after landing preparations were made to taxi or tow the aircraft to the maintenance hangar, the crew was still on board of the aircraft at that time."
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