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RE: The Devil Of Delta - N666DN

Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:24 pm

Quoting falstaff (Reply 37):

All the superstitious people in my family were old ladies who were from Ireland.

My grandmother never sat with us for a family dinner when there were 13 people at the table. She and her nutty sisters were Irish as well.
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RE: The Devil Of Delta - N666DN

Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:45 pm

Quoting United1 (Reply 48):
If you look at the a lot of the seat maps (take the domestic 757 for instance) they go fro row 12 to 14 skipping 13.

Gasp! What about rows 3-5?! Even worse, let's just dump 11-18, aaaaaand, the ever-so-menacing 32!

http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Uni..._Airlines_Boeing_777-200_3_New.php

Oh, but wait, here comes the venerable UA 744, savior for the flying triskaidekaphobes with its plain old row 13....UPSTAIRS, no less (that much closer to heaven, yes?)! It's no wonder they're still in the fleet.

http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Uni...ited_Airlines_Boeing_747-400_B.php

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RE: The Devil Of Delta - N666DN

Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:31 pm

Let's just letter rows and number seats. Nobody does 13-abreast, right?
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RE: The Devil Of Delta - N666DN

Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:44 pm

Quoting We're Nuts (Reply 52):
Let's just letter rows and number seats. Nobody does 13-abreast, right?

But if you have more than 26 rows, what would you use? Double letters? The Greek Alphabet?
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RE: The Devil Of Delta - N666DN

Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:52 pm

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 53):
But if you have more than 26 rows, what would you use? Double letters? The Greek Alphabet?

I was going to suggest punctuation, but sure, your idea is good too.
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RE: The Devil Of Delta - N666DN

Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:57 pm

Quoting We're Nuts (Reply 52):
Let's just letter rows and number seats.

Nice to see you posting again!

Quoting We're Nuts (Reply 52):
Nobody does 13-abreast, right?

TWA was pretty unique using numbers for seats within the rows instead of letters, so it's a good thing no one ever came up with 13-across in their era.  
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RE: The Devil Of Delta - N666DN

Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:00 pm

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 55):
Nice to see you posting again!

Well thank you, it's nice to be remembered!
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RE: The Devil Of Delta - N666DN

Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:03 pm

Saw n666us doing SEA TYO yesterday. Funny how prior to this topic, I would have never thought anything about it lol. I am always on the lookout for my 'birthday planes'. N(m/dd)XX.
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RE: The Devil Of Delta - N666DN

Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:19 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 33):
CO was the only major North American carrier that skipped row 13 on their aircraft. Not sure if that's still the case on ex-CO aircraft now with UA.
Quoting 777fan (Reply 46):
That has to do with UA's effort to standardize the F/C/Y+/Y row enumeration format across the fleet, not "luck." If it were about good fortune, they'd probably have eliminated row 13 on the 744 and 763 as well. Many of the UA-contracted RJs still carry row 13....ooooh, spooky.
Quoting United1 (Reply 48):
....while changing UA seat numbers to match exCO planes did have to do with standardizing row numbers across the fleet. If you look at the a lot of the seat maps (take the domestic 757 for instance) they go fro row 12 to 14 skipping 13. There is no reason for them to have skipped that number except....luck....as row 20/21 is where they aligned all of the Y class seats.

CO was a superstitious airline. So much to the point there is no row 13 on any of their aircraft or any regional flying for them (see Q400s and ERJs). There was no floor 13 at their headquarters and no gate 13 at their hubs. Any aircraft at pmUA that CO management made seating changes to has no row 13. After the merger all mainline aircraft were standardized to CO row numbering exception of 763- 3 class and 747 which meant row 13 would not exist on any other plane.
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RE: The Devil Of Delta - N666DN

Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:52 pm

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 3):
DL also has a 744 with registration N666US:

When we first took delivery of N666US it definitely had some quirks. Lights would suddenly come on in the middle of the night, boarding music would start mid-flight--little things like that. We jokingly named it "Damien, the Devil Ship." Eventually these things went away.
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RE: The Devil Of Delta - N666DN

Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:35 pm

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 59):
When we first took delivery of N666US it definitely had some quirks. Lights would suddenly come on in the middle of the night, boarding music would start mid-flight--little things like that. We jokingly named it "Damien, the Devil Ship." Eventually these things went away.

Yeah....heard about those......but it was encouraged by the staff too...who wanted to keep the haunted image alive  
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RE: The Devil Of Delta - N666DN

Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:53 pm

Quoting ordpark (Reply 2):
Most psgrs have no idea what the tail # or Fleet # is on their aircraft ( except for people like us) and yes, these superstitions are silly...UA has a 320 with 4666 as a fleet number and a 767-300 N666UA.

You know whats funny here in Japan, the number 4 is associated with death, as it sounds just like the word for death in Japanese "死、or "shi." The number 4 is 四, shi, but also pronounced "yon." So for gaijin like me, a fleet number 4666 airplane could be considered super unlucky   

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 3):
DL also has a 744 with registration N666US:

I've spotted that before at NRT and I asked a Japanese spotter if he knew what 666 meant....he didn't, but an Iron Maiden fan spotting nearby began laughing.
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RE: The Devil Of Delta - N666DN

Sat Aug 10, 2013 12:57 am

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 61):
You know whats funny here in Japan, the number 4 is associated with death, as it sounds just like the word for death in Japanese "死、or "shi." The number 4 is 四, shi, but also pronounced "yon."

AC's daily NRT-YVR nonstop has always been AC4 (AC3 westbound). Like many of their transpacific flight numbers, it was inherited from CP. Prior to CP switching to single digit numbers for the primary Asian flights, the YVR-Tokyo flights were 401 and 403 westbound and 402 and 404 eastbound (401/402 continued to/from HKG and 403/404 turned around at Tokyo.

On the other hand, AC's HKG-YVR nonstop is AC8 (previously CP8), and one of CX's HKG-YVR flights is CX888 (the other CX838), with 8 being considered a lucky number in Chinese since it sounds similar to the words for "wealth" or "prosper" etc.

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RE: The Devil Of Delta - N666DN

Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:58 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 62):
AC's daily NRT-YVR nonstop has always been AC4 (AC3 westbound). Like many of their transpacific flight numbers, it was inherited from CP. Prior to CP switching to single digit numbers for the primary Asian flights, the YVR-Tokyo flights were 401 and 403 westbound and 402 and 404 eastbound (401/402 continued to/from HKG and 403/404 turned around at Tokyo.

LOL that is interesting! I wonder what Japanese would think if they were booked on Flight Death   
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RE: The Devil Of Delta - N666DN

Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:31 pm

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 63):
AC's daily NRT-YVR nonstop has always been AC4 (AC3 westbound). Like many of their transpacific flight numbers, it was inherited from CP. Prior to CP switching to single digit numbers for the primary Asian flights, the YVR-Tokyo flights were 401 and 403 westbound and 402 and 404 eastbound (401/402 continued to/from HKG and 403/404 turned around at Tokyo.

For many years NW4 operated NRT-ORD and I don't recall hearing any comments from the Japanese passengers.

One funny thing that NW did--in the mid 80's they decided to renovate the interiors of all of the 747 aircraft. Included in this was a beautiful cut carpet design on the two FC coat closet doors of a white Chrysanthemum. Problem is that this flower is the symbol of death in Japan and that definitely freaked some folks out. NW then had to pay to have them all ripped out again.
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