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Ryefly
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US-AA Hub To Hub Flights

Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:43 pm

Now that the codeshare between US and AA has started, I was browsing US Airways site to see what was changed. I searched for a CLT -MIA flight on several different dates. On this route, American has 5 flights a day, all operated by Eagle Embraer 145's . US operates 7 flights all on mainline aircraft mostly A321's.

With the amount of new connection traffic alone, I'm surprised AA didn't upgrade this route to mainline service immediately. Those Embraer's are going to fill up fast. Maybe they plan to make changes in the near future?? What other hub to hub flights need upgrading or schedule changes until the airlines can fully integrate?
 
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RE: US-AA Hub To Hub Flights

Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:45 pm

while many would think so, where do you take those planes from to do so?
 
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RE: US-AA Hub To Hub Flights

Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:59 pm

While they have started the code share US-AA hub flights have not been adjusted yet, I would think all RJ flying btwn hubs will be gone soon. Like when AA bought TWA AA stopped flying ORD-STL and let TWA do it all I suspect the same will happen here ORD-CLT will be only flown by US etc
 
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RE: US-AA Hub To Hub Flights

Sat Feb 08, 2014 3:31 pm

Quoting ripcordd (Reply 2):
While they have started the code share US-AA hub flights have not been adjusted yet, I would think all RJ flying btwn hubs will be gone soon.

Agree, though will be interesting to see when. If I am not mistaken, the only hub-hub flights they will actually have to start will be PHL-JFK.
 
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RE: US-AA Hub To Hub Flights

Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:22 pm

PHL-JFK (operated by Amtrak and the MTA)
 
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RE: US-AA Hub To Hub Flights

Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:35 am

US briefly ran PHL-JFK last year with E90 equipment. The success of CLT-JFK for US has been phenominal, while B6 has been left with a token presence.
 
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RE: US-AA Hub To Hub Flights

Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:37 pm

Here is an interesting tidbit of trivia. Once AA begins to operate the PHX-PHL hub to hub route, it will mark the return of this route for AA after a 30 year absence. AA used to fly nonstop between PHX and PHL, but the route was discontinued sometime in the early 80's.

http://www.departedflights.com/AA042681p30.html
 
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RE: US-AA Hub To Hub Flights

Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:42 pm

Quoting ripcordd (Reply 2):
While they have started the code share US-AA hub flights have not been adjusted yet,

Equipment and flight times have not been adjusted. On the DFW-PHX route, AA and US have flights that leave within five minutes of each other.

It seems to me, that scheduling to get rid of these duplicate flights would be first priority.
 
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RE: US-AA Hub To Hub Flights

Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:39 pm

US has upgraded their presence somewhat on the PHX-DFW route it seems. In March I will be flying a 757 on the route, which used to be almost all A320 and I think one A321. Plus, AA has upgraded many of the MD80 on the route to 737.
 
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RE: US-AA Hub To Hub Flights

Sun Feb 09, 2014 3:57 pm

Quoting FRNT787 (Reply 8):

US Airways has also been running the 757 on CLT-DFW since November and CLT-JFK has recieved a new daily frequency and has gone to 5x a321 and 1x a319 wheras the a321:a319/320 ratio used to be closer to 50:50
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RE: US-AA Hub To Hub Flights

Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:56 pm

Quoting FRNT787 (Reply 8):
US has upgraded their presence somewhat on the PHX-DFW route it seems. In March I will be flying a 757 on the route, which used to be almost all A320 and I think one A321.

US currently has 5 per day in each direction, 4x321 and 1x320 (319 on off peak days). In March on "flex" days that goes 6 A321s PHX-DFW and 5-A321s and 1-A319 DFW-PHX.

Quoting FRNT787 (Reply 8):
Plus, AA has upgraded many of the MD80 on the route to 737.

AA currently has 6-7 per day, with roughly half being 738s and the other half being M80s.
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RE: US-AA Hub To Hub Flights

Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:55 pm

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 10):
AA currently has 6-7 per day, with roughly half being 738s and the other half being M80s.

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RE: US-AA Hub To Hub Flights

Mon Feb 10, 2014 11:35 am

Quoting Ryefly (Thread starter):

With the amount of new connection traffic alone, I'm surprised AA didn't upgrade this route to mainline service immediately. Those Embraer's are going to fill up fast. Maybe they plan to make changes in the near future?? What other hub to hub flights need upgrading or schedule changes until the airlines can fully integrate?

This is quite the fascinating question when you look at the combined flights between some of their hubs. One of the more interesting hubs I think is going to be ORD where AA for the most part is entirely Eagle and US is entirely mainline.

PHL-ORD schedule
AA 6:05 E75
AA 7:30 E75
US 7:35 A320
US 9:45 A320
AA 10:10 CR7
US 11:35 A319
AA 12:20 CR7
US 13:55 A320
AA 14:45 E75
US 15:59 A321
AA 17:00 E75
US 18:00 A321
US 20:35 A321
AA 21:05 738

ORD-CLT
UA 5:45 A321
AA 6:45 ERD
US 7:40 A321
US 9:20 A321
AA 9:50 ER4
US 12:10 A321
AA 12:10 ER4
US 13:59 A321
AA 14:10 ER4
US 16:20 A321
AA 17:10 ER4
US 17:59 A320
US 18:10 A321
AA 21:10 ER4
 
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RE: US-AA Hub To Hub Flights

Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:41 pm

Quoting crAAzy (Reply 12):
This is quite the fascinating question when you look at the combined flights between some of their hubs. One of the more interesting hubs I think is going to be ORD where AA for the most part is entirely Eagle and US is entirely mainline.

I think that ORD-PHX is worth mentioning as well. Although it is not Eagle, AA has gone back and forth on redeploying the MD80 on this route, which like LAS, should be all 738.


ORD-PHX:

US: 6:02 A321
US: 7:00 A321
AA: 8:55 B738
US: 11:00 A321
AA: 11:05 MD83
US: 14:10 A320
AA: 14:15 MD80
AA: 16:15 MD80
US: 17:05 A321
AA: 19:26 MD83

United shows four non stops out of ORD (8:30, 9:47, 11:55 and 5:56PM) and out of MDW, Southwest has 7 non-stops (6:00, 8:50, 10:00, 11:50, 1:55 PM, 3:30PM, 7:10PM)
 
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RE: US-AA Hub To Hub Flights

Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:39 pm

Quoting sjusxm (Reply 11):
10 a day in the winter,

Yep, you're right. That's what I get when I don't hit "next page" lol.
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RE: US-AA Hub To Hub Flights

Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:00 pm

Quoting MesaFlyGuy (Reply 9):
US Airways has also been running the 757 on CLT-DFW since November and CLT-JFK has recieved a new daily frequency and has gone to 5x a321 and 1x a319 wheras the a321:a319/320 ratio used to be closer to 50:50

This route has seen a 757 since I want to say around 2010.
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RE: US-AA Hub To Hub Flights

Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:06 pm

Will be interesting to see what equipment will be used on LAX-PHX. I am sure AA will redeploy the few CRJs they have on the route to other destinations and instead go all mainline.

We will also have AA back at BUR!
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RE: US-AA Hub To Hub Flights

Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:32 am

Quoting crAAzy (Reply 12):
PHL-ORD schedule
Quoting crAAzy (Reply 12):
ORD-CLT

What I find intreresting here is that from pmAA's second largest hub all these flights (save for one PHL flight) are all Eagle E-jets and CR7's... and US runs all A321's except for one A320 on each route.

Surprised there's no pmAA mainline on those routes (again save for the one 738 to PHL)
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