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Pan Am Terminal/gates At Heathrow

Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:58 pm

Hello - Just getting sentimental about a flight I took on a Pan Am 747 from Seattle to London in the fall of 1980. Which terminal and gate area would we have arrived at? Thanks!
 
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RE: Pan Am Terminal/gates At Heathrow

Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:25 am

Pan AM used terminal 3 at Heathrow.
 
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RE: Pan Am Terminal/gates At Heathrow

Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:26 am

Any gate really at T3.
 
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RE: Pan Am Terminal/gates At Heathrow

Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:39 am

I flew LHR-SEA-LHR twice with Pan Am in 87 and 89 (plus LHR-SFO in 86) ......oh happy days!
 
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RE: Pan Am Terminal/gates At Heathrow

Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:44 am

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 2):
Any gate really at T3.

They almost always used gates at the 'outer' concourse - Gates 13, 14, 16, 17, 19, and 21.
 
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RE: Pan Am Terminal/gates At Heathrow

Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:55 am

Kilo 14 was the stand that PA 103 left from that awful night.
 
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RE: Pan Am Terminal/gates At Heathrow

Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:29 am

Quoting shuttle9juliet (Reply 5):
Kilo 14 was the stand that PA 103 left from that awful night.

Since demolished when the taxiway was moved for Code F certification. Not a bad thing really....
 
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RE: Pan Am Terminal/gates At Heathrow

Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:45 am

It's still visible skipness, I believe Babcock use it as a parking lot for their vans, and above at the gate, is VA checkin restroom of some sort?
It still has a little 314 plate at the head of stand and you can see where the jetty, markings ect once were.
Our instructor stopped around there, when we did our snowflake training last winter.
 
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RE: Pan Am Terminal/gates At Heathrow

Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:58 am

Wow that's interesting! I always like T2 in the sense it's like walking into a history book. Gate 313 which can't deal with arriving passengers as it's not possible to segregate, gate rooms that used to see BOAC B747-100s etc. It's really due for demoltion though. I'll have a closer look next time I land on 27R and taxi past. Thanks for that.
 
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RE: Pan Am Terminal/gates At Heathrow

Fri Apr 04, 2014 5:12 pm

I fly a lot from LHR as it's my home airport, and I always get a buzz walking into T3, I suppose it's a bit of history and the most exotic. Those of us who remember how T1, T2 and T3 (then T4) were split, T3 was always the long haul, interesting stuff.....the Concordes, the Qantas 747s, the Pan Am flights, TWA, Air Canada Tristars, BWIA Tristars, Kenya Airways 707s, Zambia and Ghana Airways DC10s...all sorts of things long gone but that live on in the memory. But T3 had a special feel about it, and somehow these days flying to CPH or VIE from there isn't quite the same as picking up a Pan Am 747 to SFO, but I often fly out on the QF A380s and get that sense of T3 meaning long haul flights to far away places again. T3 was always the place where film stars and rock stars were photographed arriving or leaving London so I guess that is also in the back of my mind too.
 
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RE: Pan Am Terminal/gates At Heathrow

Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:55 pm

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 8):
I always like T2 in the sense it's like walking into a history book.

T3 obviously! I agree with n729pa in that those piers used to see 707s and DC8s and was the most exotic and out of sight from the terrace and car parks,
 
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RE: Pan Am Terminal/gates At Heathrow

Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:03 pm

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RE: Pan Am Terminal/gates At Heathrow

Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:11 pm

Flew from LHR to New York back in 88 and 90 With Pan Am 747. I'm guessing that was temrinal 3 too ? Anyone know the gate ? Also flew MIami - LHR in 90.
 
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RE: Pan Am Terminal/gates At Heathrow

Sat Apr 05, 2014 1:49 am

Great responses and photo, thanks! Left Sea-Tac from the old Pan Am Hangar that had been converted to departure gates on Concourse A. Stepped off into Heathrow with a backpack and "Europe on $10/day"! Can't remember what train we took into London...would it have terminated at Victoria Station?
 
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RE: Pan Am Terminal/gates At Heathrow

Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:49 am

Quoting n729pa (Reply 3):
I flew LHR-SEA-LHR twice with Pan Am in 87 and 89 (plus LHR-SFO in 86) ......oh happy days!

Was this flight continuing down to SFO from SEA? I would think no because in 87 most of Pan Am's long haul routes out of SFO were already sold to United, yes in 87 Pan Am was still flying to SFO but only from JFK and maybe HNL. Don't hesitate to correct me if I'm wrong. I ask that because in 1982 I flew on a Pan Am 747 SFO-LHR with a stop in SEA.

Thanks PW100 for posting this picture. It takes me back to the good old days when LHR was 747 heaven, when only tri jets and quads were permitted to fly long haul over water.

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RE: Pan Am Terminal/gates At Heathrow

Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:51 am

Quoting American 767 (Reply 14):
Was this flight continuing down to SFO from SEA? I would think no because in 87 most of Pan Am's long haul routes out of SFO were already sold to United, yes in 87 Pan Am was still flying to SFO but only from JFK and maybe HNL. Don't hesitate to correct me if I'm wrong. I ask that because in 1982 I flew on a Pan Am 747 SFO-LHR with a stop in SEA.

Thanks PW100 for posting this picture. It takes me back to the good old days when LHR was 747 heaven, when only tri jets and quads were permitted to fly long haul over water.

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RE: Pan Am Terminal/gates At Heathrow

Sat Apr 05, 2014 4:06 am

Quoting HNL (Reply 15):
PA continued to operate SFO-LHR non-stop.

Yep, until they sold LHR to UA in 1991. In fact, on 12/21/88, Clipper Maid of the Seas arrived at LHR from SFO before being turned around as PA103 to JFK.
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