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Meet Betty: The Woman Behind The Cockpit Voice

Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:30 pm

Was just flipping through youtube and found this fun clip: two Lufthansa Cargo MD-11F pilots talking about the genesis of their cockpit voice. Meet Bitchin' Betty. I did not know this little piece of trivia, so I thought I would share.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFPEV...eAsg&list=UUjtoaUzcsmGg4XKEfjlIlBQ
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RE: Meet Betty: The Woman Behind The Cockpit Voice

Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:06 am

Thank you very much for your link! Now I know the face of the familiar "female voice of McDonnell Douglas"!

Sadly, the captain speaks German only - English would have been nicer for international viewers.
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RE: Meet Betty: The Woman Behind The Cockpit Voice

Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:04 pm

Is this the sister of the annoying GPS "recalculating" voice?
 
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RE: Meet Betty: The Woman Behind The Cockpit Voice

Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:06 pm

theres another good video in the related videos where it shows 10 cams at once of an approach.

although in german, still good vids!
 
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RE: Meet Betty: The Woman Behind The Cockpit Voice

Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:08 pm

Quoting MD80 (Reply 1):
Sadly, the captain speaks German only - English would have been nicer for international viewers.

Here's another version still in German but with English subtitles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvRzcu006uQ

[Edited 2014-08-25 07:09:02]
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RE: Meet Betty: The Woman Behind The Cockpit Voice

Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:59 pm

Does she also put on a testosterone enhanced voice and say "pull up"? etc...
 
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RE: Meet Betty: The Woman Behind The Cockpit Voice

Mon Aug 25, 2014 3:20 pm

The comments that the pilot in the video makes about the warning voice always being a female's, I've heard (don't know if it's true) that for some reason a female voice seems to get one's attention far better than a male's voice. Maybe it's because, as the German captain in the video states, females seem to speak more clearly. Or it could be that there's some maternal "link" to a female voice given that we all learned to hear and obey our mothers' voice first and foremost in our early development as a child. I know when I'm in my plane flying around the patch and I hear a female pilot call in to ATC the voice sticks out above the communications din far more than the male voices that dominate the airwaves.
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RE: Meet Betty: The Woman Behind The Cockpit Voice

Mon Aug 25, 2014 3:21 pm

Great video! I really enjoyed all of the videos from that channel.
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RE: Meet Betty: The Woman Behind The Cockpit Voice

Mon Aug 25, 2014 3:25 pm

Quoting redflyer (Reply 6):
I've heard (don't know if it's true) that for some reason a female voice seems to get one's attention far better than a male's voice.

That was the main reason IIRC but what about cultures where female voices probably have difficulties to get attention?
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RE: Meet Betty: The Woman Behind The Cockpit Voice

Mon Aug 25, 2014 3:44 pm

Quoting MD80 (Reply 8):
That was the main reason IIRC but what about cultures where female voices probably have difficulties to get attention?

I've wondered about that myself. All I can say is that the aviation world is dominated by equipment and standards established by the West so the rest of the flying world is forced to go along. By way of example, English is not the dominant language of the world yet it is the official language of aviation and you'll never get to fly a commercial airplane in revenue service regardless of the flag you fly for unless you can communicate in English.
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RE: Meet Betty: The Woman Behind The Cockpit Voice

Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:20 pm

This is another video of 'Bitching Betty'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0AK4yxBGnM

[Edited 2014-08-25 10:04:57]
 
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RE: Meet Betty: The Woman Behind The Cockpit Voice

Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:35 pm

The conventional wisdom is that the cockpit is dominated by men. In the heat of a situation, with warning bells, flashing lights, the two pilots talking to each other, and ATC in your ear, a different voice, a female voice, would garner more attention for the most urgent situations to help focus the pilot's attention (fire, stall, terrain, etc.)
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RE: Meet Betty: The Woman Behind The Cockpit Voice

Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:41 pm

Quoting redflyer (Reply 6):
The comments that the pilot in the video makes about the warning voice always being a female's, I've heard (don't know if it's true) that for some reason a female voice seems to get one's attention far better than a male's voice. Maybe it's because, as the German captain in the video states, females seem to speak more clearly. Or it could be that there's some maternal "link" to a female voice given that we all learned to hear and obey our mothers' voice first and foremost in our early development as a child.

It could simply be that historically, the vast majority of pilots have been male, and heterosexual males are genetically more likely to listen to/for female voices.

I have no scientific evidence to back that up, but I know I tend to look at girls more than guys, so I wouldn't be surprised if the same was true for hearing.
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RE: Meet Betty: The Woman Behind The Cockpit Voice

Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:44 pm

Quoting Scanorama (Reply 10):
This is another video of 'Bitching Betty'

I need this voice for daily life late at night while looking at McDonnell Douglas-memorabilia: "BEDTIME" BEDTIME" 
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RE: Meet Betty: The Woman Behind The Cockpit Voice

Mon Aug 25, 2014 6:08 pm

There was an interview with her on a podcast I heart recently. Don't recall which one and I can't find it at the moment...

Might have been on Airlinepilotguy or Airspeed.

Found it! Airspeed.com on Feb 16.

http://traffic.libsyn.com/airspeed/AirspeedBettyWithPreRoll2.mp3
 
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RE: Meet Betty: The Woman Behind The Cockpit Voice

Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:30 pm

Quoting MD80 (Reply 8):
That was the main reason IIRC but what about cultures where female voices probably have difficulties to get attention?

Maybe they used a female voice because there were virtually no women pilots back in the day so when a female voice piped up it was "unusual" and brought attention to a particular issue?

[Edited 2014-08-25 12:52:57]
 
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RE: Meet Betty: The Woman Behind The Cockpit Voice

Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:31 pm

I always found female voices are easier to understand in those applications, but to me it was mostly because they generally speak with a higher pitch tone than men. Higher tones travel better through the background noises than lower tones, and are more clearly identifiable.
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RE: Meet Betty: The Woman Behind The Cockpit Voice

Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:46 pm

@armitageshanks and @MrFord: Good aspects!

Quoting MrFord (Reply 16):
but to me it was mostly because they generally speak with a higher pitch tone than men.

Maybe they could also have asked "Bee Gees"!   
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RE: Meet Betty: The Woman Behind The Cockpit Voice

Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:44 pm

She wasn't saying much in SR111's final moments:
From 09:49-10:24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZXMaFtwBKU

[Edited 2014-08-25 13:44:41]
 
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RE: Meet Betty: The Woman Behind The Cockpit Voice

Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:03 pm

Quoting Chamonix (Reply 18):

I fear that no voice could have prevented this tragic fate of an airliner.
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RE: Meet Betty: The Woman Behind The Cockpit Voice

Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:15 pm

Quoting trent1000 (Reply 5):

Does she also put on a testosterone enhanced voice and say "pull up"? etc...

Very silly but I did giggle to myself thinking it would be funny if she recorded "Pull Out!"...just kidding.."Pull UP, Pull UP!"

Now that would get some attention if you were flying unbeknownst into the Alps.

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