Moderators: richierich, ua900, PanAm_DC10, hOMSaR

 
popee
Topic Author
Posts: 151
Joined: Fri Feb 23, 2001 10:26 pm

777 Powere Plant Transportation

Sun Mar 17, 2002 10:24 pm

My Corporation is planning to buy 777 (dont know further about the airframe or engine ) but have learnt that its engines are difficult to transport because of their large size. So much so that even 747 with side cargo door cant carry it due to the size of door and engine. Is it right ? If yes then how do airlines take care of it if they dont hv such provisions ? Similarly which a/c are capable to carry these huge engines ?

Thanx.
 
desertjets
Posts: 7693
Joined: Fri Feb 18, 2000 3:12 pm

RE: 777 Powere Plant Transportation

Mon Mar 18, 2002 1:21 am

Most commonly the AN-124 is used to transport the engines for the 777.
Stop drop and roll will not save you in hell. --- seen on a church marque in rural Virginia
 
Dalmd88
Posts: 3139
Joined: Fri Jul 28, 2000 3:19 am

RE: 777 Powere Plant Transportation

Mon Mar 18, 2002 4:59 am

I think a 747 can be used if it is loaded through the nose.
 
aeroguy
Posts: 66
Joined: Wed Aug 15, 2001 1:33 am

RE: 777 Powere Plant Transportation

Mon Mar 18, 2002 5:57 am

I don't know about P&W or RR, but the GE90 is designed so that the fan module is relatively easy to remove from the core engine for transport. With the engine split into two pieces, it can be transported on widebody freighters such as the A300F, MD-11F, 747F, etc. The fan module is placed on the aircraft on its side (so the diameter is now the width, length is now the height). If the fan module were not removed, the engine could be shipped as a whole on large transports such as the C-17, C-5, and An-124.
 
popee
Topic Author
Posts: 151
Joined: Fri Feb 23, 2001 10:26 pm

RE: 777 Powere Plant Transportation

Mon Mar 18, 2002 10:33 pm

Aeroguy looks more reasonable to dismantle engine for transportation. But is this a normal practice ? I mean dismantling it for transportation and assembling it again. How do u get yr engines ?
 
air2gxs
Posts: 1443
Joined: Mon Jun 18, 2001 1:29 pm

RE: 777 Powere Plant Transportation

Tue Mar 19, 2002 11:56 am

Nose loading jumbo will not work. The area below the cockpit is much shorter that than main deck area.
 
popee
Topic Author
Posts: 151
Joined: Fri Feb 23, 2001 10:26 pm

RE: 777 Powere Plant Transportation

Wed Mar 20, 2002 12:45 am

Can someone give the dimension of both side cargo loading door & nose loading ?
 
babaero
Posts: 419
Joined: Mon Jan 28, 2002 4:39 am

RE: 777 Powere Plant Transportation

Wed Mar 20, 2002 10:20 pm

Experience from an airline which operates both 772 and 773

The Roller will only fit into a nose cargo 747. Will not go into side cargo door.

Yes An124 is an option.

Remember thou If you op 777s chances are if you have to divert, make sure if you use a 747 with nose door, the airport has nose lift access. Many airports dont have this facility.( once had an A330 AOG in CNS. Had to fly engine to BNE then road transport to CNS )

Cathay. Lots of A330 and 777 experiance
 
SailorOrion
Posts: 1960
Joined: Tue Feb 06, 2001 5:56 pm

RE: 777 Powere Plant Transportation

Wed Mar 20, 2002 11:55 pm

What about external mount points to transport the engine like the B747/MD-11 and others have?

SailorOrion
 
Mr.BA
Posts: 3310
Joined: Sun Sep 24, 2000 12:26 pm

RE: 777 Powere Plant Transportation

Thu Mar 21, 2002 12:13 am

I don't think it's posssible to have such a big engine hanging on the wings on the B747! It's way to big.
Boeing747 万岁!
 
tsentsan
Posts: 1921
Joined: Mon Jan 28, 2002 10:48 pm

RE: 777 Powere Plant Transportation

Fri Mar 22, 2002 4:17 am

When MH had a 772 down in Per in 2000, they sent down their B743Combi with the replacement engine inside. It came out the side cargo door. I apologise for not having them scanned. But I viewed this with my own two eyes, and trust me, they took a mightly long time to take the engine out.


Click for large version
Click here for full size photo!

Photo © Tsen Tsan



Click for large version
Click here for full size photo!

Photo © Tsen Tsan

NO URLS in signature
 
babaero
Posts: 419
Joined: Mon Jan 28, 2002 4:39 am

RE: 777 Powere Plant Transportation

Fri Mar 22, 2002 7:20 am

Rolls Trent 700 @ 800 will not fit throu 747f side door.

Maybe Pratt of GE is smaller diameter.

GE90 can be split as mentioned earlier, but then takes a while to assemble;

FYI even rb211 nose cowl wont even fit throu lower cargo doors on 747
 
tsentsan
Posts: 1921
Joined: Mon Jan 28, 2002 10:48 pm

RE: 777 Powere Plant Transportation

Sat Mar 23, 2002 12:25 am

MH transported their 777 RR Trent Engine 890 using their B743Combi. How do you think they got the engine out? I'll try to source out the photo.
NO URLS in signature
 
babaero
Posts: 419
Joined: Mon Jan 28, 2002 4:39 am

RE: 777 Powere Plant Transportation

Sat Mar 23, 2002 5:29 am

From reliable sourse at CX who witnessed this event of MH AOG.

With nose cowl removed and also tail section this engine did come out of side door.

Would like to know how much gap they had.Between door and engine.

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: gunsontheroof, stackelberg and 16 guests

Popular Searches On Airliners.net

Top Photos of Last:   24 Hours  •  48 Hours  •  7 Days  •  30 Days  •  180 Days  •  365 Days  •  All Time

Military Aircraft Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe

Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos