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CO: LAS-EWR ~ (w/Pictures)

Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:26 pm


Las Vegas to Newark, for just a quick weekend in Greenwich/CT and then off back to Las Vegas for yet more business.


$180.00 One-Way


There are not many times and many airports left in the US that can allow for a seamless process and LAS is one of the very few. Once the doors to the terminal opened I proceeded directly forward to the ticket agent to check in my bags with Continental Airlines. The Agent seemed a little flustered, perhaps he was new. He proceeded to tell me that the flight was almost sold out and that I couldn’t move my seat. (I had thought that that was an odd comment as I always choose the same exact seat on the 757 with CO). I then asked him to make sure that my Air France Flying Blue number was in the reservation and he looked at me with an odd smirk. He replied with something to the fact that Continental Airlines does not take other airlines FF programs. I had a quick chuckle and then took a few minutes to correct his misinformation about Air France miles being able to be earned while flying Continental Airlines.
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Observations of LAS

Las Vegas is a easy to use airport (in some aspects), as I found in other aspects it is one of the worst. I am a big fan of the D gates, however either hard times have hit the airport or businesses, just cant make money on the food outlets. I had arrived at the airport at 7pm for my 10pm flight. Once into the D gates there was near nothing to eat. Most of the food outlets were closed and the ones that were open had horrific lines, or weren’t worth the bother. After trying to decide between the diner and a ton of deep fried food, I opted to Wolfgang Puck and a pizza, goat cheese salad with a nice glass of wine. As I sat I watched just about one of every walk of life walk by. It was interesting to see that Las Vegas truly does have the global draw that so many have spoken of time and time again. As I ate my salad I heard the women at the table next to me say “Las Vegas is so expensive”, I couldn’t help but think of the sticker shock she would have in NYC, San Francisco, or in Europe. Not to be rude at the same time she remarked to her traveling partner that she had never seen a person eat a piece of pizza with a fork and knife. All made for good humor.

Times sure have changed at LAS, among most other airports in the USA. I can remember a number of years ago seeing UA 767-300 and 747-400’s at LAS. Of course at the same time Sun Country was using DC-10s to MSP, ATA was using L1011’s to IND, and Delta was using larger equipment in greater frequencies and had services to markets such as PDX and DFW. At the same flip of the coin I can remember, and oh how I yearn for Shuttle by United in abundance at LAS. Now LAS seems to see less and less wide bodies, more and more narrow bodies, more and more Allegiant. Allegiant has gone from upstart to one of the “big dogs” in LAS. A few years back people were talking about the upstart as if it were dying. Now Allegiant from what I could see had nearly 11 MD-80 types either parked or at gates at the same time. Something can be said for Allegiant, in the crux of horrible times in the US civil aviation, Allegiant is making it work and is making it work in Las Vegas
Allegiant/US Airways – One is in and one is out
JetBlue - A320 operating LAS-BUR
Allegiant – The LAS hometown airline
Delta – Collection including flights to SLC, ATL, JFK
Continental – 737-800 operating LAS-IAH
Delta – 767-300 inbound from ATL
Delta – 737-800 inbound from CVG
American – 757-200 inbound from JFK
United/TED – A320 operating LAS-LAX
American – 737-800 inbound from DFW

The LAS-EWR Flight

Continental Airlines
Flight 369
Boeing 757-300

Continental 757-300 Seat Map

Scheduled Departure: 10:00pm
Actual Departure: 10:06pm

Scheduled Arrival: 5:33am
Actual Arrival: 5:00am
Facing forward from the rear most cabin
View across the aisle in the rear most cabin
Armrest view of the rear most cabin

By 905pm it was apparent that the boarding was going to begin soon. There was an announcement made that they wanted to push 10 minutes early, as can be expected the heard of passengers for the most part grazed on over to the front of the gate blocking access for First Class and Elite member. In all of the chaotic frenzy as can be expected people were turned away and told to wait for their turn. Some tried to play the “I don’t speak English” card, and others just plain wanted to cut in front. So soon after the music to my ears that rows 34 and higher were able to board. Got to my seat and I was able to snap a few shots of the cabin in a rushed haste. After all of the announcing to push early,. We pushed 2 minutes late. Taxi was very quick and we were airborne no less than 5 minutes after the door was closed. Take-off was stereotypical from LAS heading straight over the Mandalay and turning, then turning again over Red Rock and Queensridge before heading out of town.

There was not much more to report as far as activity during the flight. The Flight Attendants made announcement after announcement about selling headsets, no luck from what I was able to see. What is the sense of selling headsets for a buck? Either give them away or let people bring them onboard. A buck seems like a “nickel and dime” approach. Okay, so my rant is over. There was NO SERVICE during the flight. The only offerings were orange juice and water from seat side. If you wanted something else you would need to meander to the back galley and request something else to drink. Decent was quick and rapid into Newark. Baggage miracle of all miracles came within a matter of minutes. Contrary to what many people say on this website, Newark has better train and less hassle than JFK. Trust me, having lived in and around NYC and Manhattan in particular it is hard to admit that anything in Jersey is good, Newark is one of them!

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RE: CO: LAS-EWR ~ (w/Pictures)

Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:49 am

Cool report...sorry to hear about the lackluster service, CO's usually better than that.

Quoting Lambert747 (Thread starter):
Contrary to what many people say on this website, Newark has better train and less hassle than JFK.

Sorry, but I have to disagree - the gaps in service at EWR (up to 25 minutes during the weekday peak and 53 minutes on weekends!) and the shoddy monorail (slow, and gets very overcrowded at peak times) make the train to JFK much more user friendly.

But that's not NJ bashing - I lived in NJ, and 90% of it is very nice. There's no truth to the "why is NJ called the 'Garden State'? Because 'Toxic Waste Dump State' wouldn't fit on the license plates" joke!  Smile
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RE: CO: LAS-EWR ~ (w/Pictures)

Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:28 am

Nice report but I have a question!!!

See the US has its thrust reversers on.

Hmmm...I don't think it should (or is it on a runway not a taxiway?)!!

Oh I just noticed just a slight degree of flaps were extended, no speedbrakes. Why would thrust reversers be on? They also shouldn't be on slower than 60 knots either, right?

Is this plane landing? I hope so!

Someone help mee with this I'm very curious!!!


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RE: CO: LAS-EWR ~ (w/Pictures)

Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:13 am

Quoting Lambert747 (Thread starter):
Either give them away or let people bring them onboard.

We've been selling headsets forever, domestically. At least 22 years since I have been here. At least they're a dollar now and you get to keep them. You are always allowed to bring your own to use. Always.

Quoting Lambert747 (Thread starter):
There was NO SERVICE during the flight

Interesting. No service at all? Did you write the company? A beverage service is done after take-off and then water/juices through out. If that is indeed the case, it is unacceptable.
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RE: CO: LAS-EWR ~ (w/Pictures)

Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:54 pm

Nice pictures, always like seeing LAS traffic, love that city @ airport!

Quoting Lambert747 (Thread starter):
Times sure have changed at LAS, among most other airports in the USA. I can remember a number of years ago seeing UA 767-300 and 747-400’s at LAS

- They sure have, I remember taking UA DC-10's & 763's to ORD, they were the good old days!


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RE: CO: LAS-EWR ~ (w/Pictures)

Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:27 pm

Nice TR. The pictures are superb and make me rather homesick! I miss the UA 763's, 744's . & DC-10's. When the gates were open in the early 2000's it was extremely fun to see them pull their girth up to the gate.
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RE: CO: LAS-EWR ~ (w/Pictures)

Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:37 am

Quoting UAL757 (Reply 2):

That A319 is not on the runway. It's on taxiway Bravo, I think that's the one.. It looks like that flap setting is 1 F for takeoff, and I have absolutely no idea why reversers are activated, but I have seen G4 do it after landing though.. But no noise was made when they were doing it..
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RE: CO: LAS-EWR ~ (w/Pictures)

Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:47 pm

Loved this TR as well. Again great pic's - good variety. Thanks for posting.
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RE: CO: LAS-EWR ~ (w/Pictures)

Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:50 am

Additional images from LAS taken prior to the EWR flight:
Allegiant/Virgin America
Allegiant MD-80

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