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Slow Climbing Andalucia/Germany A343 Style

Sat Nov 08, 2008 4:06 pm

Slow climbing back to Germany from Andalucia A343 style


Hola, dear readers,

I was in Andalucia for a short one-night stay in sunny and warm Malaga.

Downtown, near the Picasso Museum:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/AGP08/AGP08038.jpg

Under the palm tree:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/AGP08/AGP08039.jpg

Morge large palms:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/AGP08/AGP08040.jpg

The arena:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/AGP08/AGP08041.jpg

The first part of the trip is covered here:

https://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ums/trip_reports/read.main/136388/

Wednesday, 22.10. will be the day for travelling homebound to Germany.
But which way to go?. There are quick and direct flights into STR, but less interesting from my point of view.
Well, another option comes to my mind.
First I had to go to Madrid. Possible by plane on Iberia (terrible expensive, oneway around 200.-- EUROS) or Spanair
(same airline, same route still in my log around 100.-- EUROS) or more interesting, at least for me,
travelling RENFE´s AVE highspeed train service for the first time.
With my accomodation located directly beneath the new built Maria Zambrano station, there was no need to hurry in the morning.
Departure time 09.00 am, checked out at 08.30 am and settled in my seat 08.45 am, not bad, isnt´it.
Unlike in Germany only passengers with fixed seats are allowed to enter the AVE station. Bags screened like at the airport.
78,60 EUR, not cheap, but worth it.

Inside the station, the long nose machine is my ride:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/AGP08/AGP08042.jpg

Blurry picture, 297 km/h after leaving Cordoba:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/AGP08/AGP08043.jpg

It was a kind of a surrealistic ride, it was cloudy and raining outside, tinted windows makes me feel like in the dawn, the route was via Cordoba, to Puertollano with its large, oldfashioned industrial sites, passed by the built Ciudad Real airport to Madrid Atocha where the train arrived
some minutes prior to schedule.
Around 45 minutes more on Metro Madrid, two connections and I was off the train at Madrid Barajas Terminal 4.
Perfectly as planned around two hours prior to departure I was inline, checking in for my flight today.



MAD (Madrid-Barajas) - FRA (Frankfurt-Rhein-Main)
Duration: 2 hours, 40 minutes

Service LA 704 operated by LAN Airlines Airbus A340-300 CC-CQE
Scheduled: 15.15 // 17.50
Actual: 15.00 // 17.40
Gate: R16 Seat: 40A
Load factor: Around 80%
Fare: 108,71 EUR

History:
29.10.2001: Delivered to LAN Chile
23.07.2004: In service with LAN Airlines
Leg. no. 4 on the Airbus 340-300 and the first on this machine

Well, online-check-in, which I tried from the hotel, was not possible for pax with special service requests.
Me, requesting special service, ok so far!.
Later it turned out that the special service was my Deutsche Bahn Rail-and-Fly ticket from FRA airport to STR airport.
Four desks open, biz, bag drop and two others.
Not that much pax infront, but problems everywhere. FRA flyers without documents, be aware, its not a intra-Schengen service.
Others checking in for the planes late night run to SCL with overweight bags and so far.

Departure board with my flight:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/AGP08/AGP08044.jpg

OK, finally done, secured my window, last row, no time to wait at security and passport control, by the train to the Terminal 4 satellite area
and at the gate around one hour ahead to departure.
It seems the plane arrived only some minutes prior to me, ground service in action. Lots of pax around, looks like a good load.

My machine:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/AGP08/AGP08045.jpg

And again:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/AGP08/AGP08046.jpg

Ground service:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/AGP08/AGP08047.jpg

Ready to boarding:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/AGP08/AGP08048.jpg

LAN B763 at the gate beneath:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/AGP08/AGP08049.jpg

Finger-boarding was called pretty early, around 45 minutes prior to departure time.
My first impression was, let me say, not the best. While the crew was greeting the pax friendly, I count one male and seven female FA´s.
Loud and annoying music was playing, its a bar or a plane?.
The carpet and the seat cover was slightly dirty, signs of well usage visible. Fabric seats in mixed blue/red colours.

Cabin shot:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/AGP08/AGP08051.jpg

The cockpit crew sounds Chilean, the captain welcomed us during taxi with detailed departure informations for runway 36R.
Takeoff was typical A343 style, long and slowly.
He was shortly later again to hear with more informations around the routing and the flighttime.
Clouds on the whole leg via Pamplona-Lourdes-Toulouse-Geneva-Bern. Cruise level 38.000 feet.

Nice engine:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/AGP08/AGP08052.jpg

Near FRA:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/AGP08/AGP08055.jpg

Descent started later near ZRH and we´re flying surprisingly above STR.
I´ve followed this service for several times on the swiss air traffic radar scanner, mostly more eastern up and down the rhine valley.
Service was not bad, real metal cutlery and a nice wine glass, which jumped with an OK from the real friendly FA, in my bag.

Meal service:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/AGP08/AGP08054.jpg

Hi, Eric, cheers with LAN glasses, the next time!.
Touchdown on FRA´s runway 25R, taxi to T2 and again finger deboarding.

Asiana at FRA:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/AGP08/AGP08056.jpg

Bye, LAN:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/AGP08/AGP08057.jpg

And again:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/AGP08/AGP08058.jpg

My bag was fast on the belt, lets go for the train station.
Collecting the Rail-and-Fly ticket from the ticket machine was no problem, simply entering the mailed code and it was printed.
Catching a train was more difficult, Deutsche Bahn has several problems with the new generation high speed trains, that means the first possible train was
gone, the next was delayed and operates with less compartments, not the real comfortable ride back to STR, but also this part finally done!.

This was my first experience with LAN and it was beneath that loud and annoying music during boarding absolutely ok,
ontime, acceptable fare, friendly staff on the plane and also during boarding at MAD. Very talkactive and informative cockpit crew, not bad at all
and for sure a recommendable way to go beneath the usual LH or IB on that route.

Comments welcome,
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Sat Nov 08, 2008 4:27 pm

Hola Markus!

Thanks again for this unusual TR.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Inside the station, the long nose machine is my ride:

These AVE (Alta Velocidad Española/Spanish High Speed) trains are nicknamed 'patos' (ducks) and they are the last ones introduced in high-speed connections.

LAN advertises heavily in Spain the intra-european route MAD-FRA, sometimes specials for 74€ can be found. No wonder they have

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Lots of pax around, looks like a good load.

I do not really understand this,

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
FRA flyers without documents, be aware, its not a intra-Schengen service.

it happens as well with IB flights numbered 6000-6999; they are considered non-Schengen ones, to MEX, EZE, LIM, BOG... although you just fly BCN-MAD and sold on IB as domestic.  Confused

Salut!

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Sat Nov 08, 2008 4:37 pm



Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 1):
I do not really understand this,

Nice TR, I recently flew on this flight two weeks ago and it was full with a few empty seats scattered throughout the cabin. This flight is also timed to allow passengers arriving from GYE a convenient connection to FRA.
 
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RE: Slow Climbing Andalucia/Germany A343 Style

Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:11 pm

Hola, Roger,

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 1):
Thanks again for this unusual TR.

Thank you for reading.

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 1):
AVE (Alta Velocidad Española/Spanish High Speed) trains are nicknamed 'patos'

Ah, well "patos", now I know!

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 1):
although you just fly BCN-MAD and sold on IB as domestic.

Hey, that sounds also interesting.

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Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:14 pm

Hey, SCL767,

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 2):
Nice TR,

Thank you.

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 2):
This flight is also timed to allow passengers arriving from GYE a convenient connection to FRA.

Interesting, than it was the 767 arriving from GYE at the gate beneath.

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Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:26 pm



Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 4):
Interesting, than it was the 767 arriving from GYE at the gate beneath.

Yes, LAN Ecuador flies daily from GYE to Barajas and the flight arrives at 16:00 allowing for the quick connection to FRA.
 
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RE: Slow Climbing Andalucia/Germany A343 Style

Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:30 pm

Very interesting TR

I really want to try LANs MAD-FRA-MAD route one day. It is great to get to fly on a A343 on such a short route.



Thank you for sharing

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Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:38 pm

Hi, again SCL767,

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 5):
Yes, LAN Ecuador flies daily from GYE to Barajas and the flight arrives at 16:00 allowing for the quick connection to FRA.

Thanx for the further information.

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Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:42 pm

Hello, Gabriel,

Quoting B747forever (Reply 6):
Very interesting TR

Thank you.

Quoting B747forever (Reply 6):
I really want to try LANs MAD-FRA-MAD route one day. It is great to get to fly on a A343 on such a short route.

True, with the limited LA European destinations and the longhaul aircraft on that shorthaul flight, also my intention since some time ago.

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Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:44 pm

Hi Markus,

Nice report as always and on a route/airline I really want to travel.

It's another reminder I need to pull my finger out and look at dates for this!

Best Wishes

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Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:51 pm



Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 8):
True, with the limited LA European destinations and the longhaul aircraft on that shorthaul flight, also my intention since some time ago.

LAN will receive 5 more A-340s due to the delays of the 787s. GYE-MAD will eventually upgrade to an A-340, along with LAN Peru from LIM.
 
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RE: Slow Climbing Andalucia/Germany A343 Style

Sat Nov 08, 2008 6:05 pm

Hi, Mark,

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 9):
Nice report as always

Thank you.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 9):
and on a route/airline I really want to travel.

It's another reminder I need to pull my finger out and look at dates for this!

Do it, real recommendable.

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Sat Nov 08, 2008 6:07 pm

Hey, once more, SCL767,

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 10):
LAN will receive 5 more A-340s due to the delays of the 787s. GYE-MAD will eventually upgrade to an A-340, along with LAN Peru from LIM.

Great news. I like to see some more well coloured A340´s here in Europe.

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Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:04 pm



Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 12):
Great news. I like to see some more well coloured A340´s here in Europe.

You will eventually, when LAN receives the 5 "new" A-340s. Flights to CDG and LHR are being considered for future expansion.
 
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RE: Slow Climbing Andalucia/Germany A343 Style

Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:54 pm

Hey, there,

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 13):
You will eventually, when LAN receives the 5 "new" A-340s. Flights to CDG and LHR are being considered for future expansion.

More great news, LHR and CDG, real interesting.

Greetings,
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Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:37 am

Very nice TR.

LA is about to start retrofitting their A340s with the new interiors currently fitted on the 767s (Premium Business and New Economy), which are a huge improvement over these ones.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Loud and annoying music was playing, its a bar or a plane?.

Didn´t you like the music? I really like it myself. I see it as a typical and unique LAN characteristic, and quite soothing. I´ve even recorded it on my last LAN flight.
 
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RE: Slow Climbing Andalucia/Germany A343 Style

Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:50 am

Hey, PlunaCRJ,

Quoting PlunaCRJ (Reply 15):
Very nice TR.

Thank you.

Quoting PlunaCRJ (Reply 15):
LA is about to start retrofitting their A340s with the new interiors currently fitted on the 767s (Premium Business and New Economy), which are a huge improvement over these ones.

Thanx for the information, sounds good.

Quoting PlunaCRJ (Reply 15):
Didn´t you like the music? I really like it myself. I see it as a typical and unique LAN characteristic, and quite soothing. I´ve even recorded it on my last LAN flight.

My first intention: Is this Ryanair or what, it was not the music itself, it was the volume,
but maybe, I need to go more often on LAN!

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Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:02 am

Hey Markus,
Really nice photos and great to get a meal service also. Id like to try that route and carrier myself oneday. Its great that you can get on these A/C without having to fly all the way to South America!!

Thanks again

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Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:15 am

Hi Markus,

How nice to read part 2. Your pictures of Andalucia make me want to escape the mist here and head to sunnier climes!

Great that you were able to combine your trip with a special train ride.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Unlike in Germany only passengers with fixed seats are allowed to enter the AVE station. Bags screened like at the airport

Interesting to know. I can understand they have the same procedures with Eurostar trains because of the channel tunnel, but it surprised me to read that bags are screened on this route within Spain.

So it all worke out on the A343, certainly exciting to fly on the aircraft for such a short flight and nice that it's still possible to find an interesting alternative to the "ordinary" flights. I just regret never having flown ZRH-MAN on SQ's 747 Sad

Oh yes, good work with the wine glass too  Wink

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RE: Slow Climbing Andalucia/Germany A343 Style

Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:16 am

Hey, Phil,

thanx for your nice reply.

Quoting Oa260 (Reply 17):
Id like to try that route and carrier myself oneday. Its great that you can get on these A/C without having to fly all the way to South America!!

For sure, real recommendable and a nice way to check LAN airlines.

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Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:21 am

Hello, Hannah,

really nice to read your reply.

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 18):
Your pictures of Andalucia make me want to escape the mist here and head to sunnier climes!

Good luck for intentions around next March, definitelly worth to try it.

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 18):
Interesting to know. I can understand they have the same procedures with Eurostar trains because of the channel tunnel, but it surprised me to read that bags are screened on this route within Spain.

Me too, and now I know that the Eurostar has the same procedure!.

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 18):
So it all worke out on the A343, certainly exciting to fly on the aircraft for such a short flight and nice that it's still possible to find an interesting alternative to the "ordinary" flights. I just regret never having flown ZRH-MAN on SQ's 747

True words, ZRH-MAN on a SQ747, how nice!

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 18):
Oh yes, good work with the wine glass too

Jumped into Mini-Fliegers desk!

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Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:08 pm



Quoting Oa260 (Reply 17):
Id like to try that route and carrier myself oneday. Its great that you can get on these A/C without having to fly all the way to South America!!

It's a great airline, however LAN will separate the MAD and FRA flights in the future and operate both as nonstop.

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 18):
Oh yes, good work with the wine glass too

Glass in Coach, that says something about the airline.
 
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Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:16 pm

Hey, SCL 767,

and thanx for the further informations.

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 21):
It's a great airline, however LAN will separate the MAD and FRA flights in the future and operate both as nonstop.

Yes, I´ve read also something similar but dont know if its only a rumour.

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 21):
Glass in Coach, that says something about the airline.

Definitelly!

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Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:49 pm

Hey there FLIEGER67,

A very interesting way to fly from Madrid to Frankfurt! I did not even know LAN flies this short route. I love the A340-300, so this looks like a very tempting route in the near future. Thank you for all your pictures and for exposing this neat intra-European route.

Great trip report as always.

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Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:13 pm

Hey, Globetraveller,

Quoting Globetraveller (Reply 23):
Great trip report as always.

Thank you.

Quoting Globetraveller (Reply 23):
A very interesting way to fly from Madrid to Frankfurt! I did not even know LAN flies this short route. I love the A340-300,

For sure much more interesting, than the usual IB or LH, and BTW, I love that machine, too.

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Sun Nov 09, 2008 5:57 pm



Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 22):
Yes, I´ve read also something similar but dont know if its only a rumour.

They will operate as separate flights in the future. LAN only has 5 A-340s, and one is currently in maintenance receiving the new cabin. Since the 787 program is behind schedule, LAN has no alternative but to source 5 "new" A-340s until the 787s arrive.
 
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Sun Nov 09, 2008 6:03 pm

Hello, SCL767,

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 25):
They will operate as separate flights in the future. LAN only has 5 A-340s, and one is currently in maintenance receiving the new cabin. Since the 787 program is behind schedule, LAN has no alternative but to source 5 "new" A-340s until the 787s arrive.

Thank you, for the further information.
Some of our fellow members here want to try this service also, the sooner, the better.

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Sun Nov 09, 2008 7:14 pm

Hi Markus,

nice to read about your return journey of your short trip to Spain as well. The LAN A340 on MAD-FRA seems to be popular among A.Netters in recent times. It's always nice to get a widebody on an intra-European flight rather than the standard A320 or B737.

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Sun Nov 09, 2008 7:30 pm

Hi, Christoph,

nice to read your reply.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 27):
It's always nice to get a widebody on an intra-European flight rather than the standard A320 or B737.

Definitelly, one of the intentions to do this trip.

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Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:11 am

Servus Markus,

finally I could read about your latest trip - interesting report with nics pics. I had considered flying LA on that route this year, too, but in the end I chose another routing. Maybe I will try again next year.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Loud and annoying music was playing, its a bar or a plane?

This can be very annoying - and sometimes the type of music is quite irritating...

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Service was not bad, real metal cutlery and a nice wine glass, which jumped with an OK from the real friendly FA, in my bag.

Interesting to hear they gave their ok.


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Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:55 am

Hi Markus,

great report, and good to see that LA also gave you their great service on this interesting flight.
Maybe the Stuttgart region offers interesting wines? We can try our glasses then with it.
Since KL will introduce the new E90 to STR soon, I will look into a visit to your home airpot soon.

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Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:56 am

Hi Markus,

Another great read! This routing is just great, flying an intra European flight on a 340-300 is just great!
The service they offer you is also quite impressive for this flight!
Also your pictures are top notch.

Did you already book a AB flight on the Q400 STR-DUS or v.v. ? Big grin

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RE: Slow Climbing Andalucia/Germany A343 Style

Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:48 pm

Hello, nice to read your comments.

@PH:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 29):
interesting report with nics pics.

Thank you.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 29):
I had considered flying LA on that route this year, too, but in the end I chose another routing. Maybe I will try again next year.

Worth to try it.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 29):
This can be very annoying - and sometimes the type of music is quite irritating...

Think about FR!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 29):
Interesting to hear they gave their ok.

Yes, she was real nice


@Eric:

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 30):
great report,

Thank you

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 30):
Maybe the Stuttgart region offers interesting wines? We can try our glasses then with it.
Since KL will introduce the new E90 to STR soon, I will look into a visit to your home airpot soon.

Interesting wine´s, for sure, dont forget to tell me more about your schedule!


@Joost

Quoting DALCE (Reply 31):
Another great read



Quoting DALCE (Reply 31):
Also your pictures are top notch.

Thank you

Quoting DALCE (Reply 31):
This routing is just great, flying an intra European flight on a 340-300 is just great!
The service they offer you is also quite impressive for this flight!

Yeah, really worth to try it.

Quoting DALCE (Reply 31):
Did you already book a AB flight on the Q400 STR-DUS or v.v. ?

I´am thinking about it, but no chance to do it the next weeks.

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RE: Slow Climbing Andalucia/Germany A343 Style

Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:01 pm

Hi Markus,

nice to read about your return. I was expecting something special and you didn't disapoint me. Great pics as always.

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 18):
Interesting to know. I can understand they have the same procedures with Eurostar trains because of the channel tunnel, but it surprised me to read that bags are screened on this route within Spain.

Maybe because of the bomb attacs on the trains in March 2004?

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RE: Slow Climbing Andalucia/Germany A343 Style

Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:33 pm

Hi, Stefan,

nice to read your reply and

Quoting StefanPAD (Reply 33):
nice to read about your return. I was expecting something special and you didn't disapoint me. Great pics as always.

thank you.

Quoting StefanPAD (Reply 33):
Maybe because of the bomb attacs on the trains in March 2004?

Good point. That might be the reason for it.

Greetings,
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RE: Slow Climbing Andalucia/Germany A343 Style

Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:47 pm

Hi Markus,

BTW, how was the meal?

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RE: Slow Climbing Andalucia/Germany A343 Style

Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:11 pm

Hi, Stefan,

Quoting StefanPAD (Reply 35):
BTW, how was the meal?

Looks nice, isn´t it?.
But in comparison to LH on the outbound leg, I think LH wins this race
 Wink

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