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Longest Multiple Stop Flight.
What is the longest multiple stop flight anyone has heard of? Can be multiple airlines of course, and longest can be duration and/or length.
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| Quoting my235 (Thread starter): Can be multiple airlines of course |
It doesn't have to be one aircraft flying all the way? What does it have to be?
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If you can make stops and change airplanes and airlines, the longest multiple-stop, multiple-plane, and multiple-airline flight possible can begin anytime and last forever.
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RE: Longest Multiple Stop Flight.
| Quoting my235 (Thread starter): Can be multiple airlines |
If it involves more than one airlines that it is not one flight.
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Im talking a booked flight from sim to zam, but the scheduled flight has long layovers at multiple stops. I'm looking on sites now for flights from NYC to the middle of nowhere south pacific and the length is 58hrs total time. A couple years back I did a similar search and found one that was 74hrs total time.
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| Quoting my235 (Thread starter): What is the longest multiple stop flight anyone has heard of? |
UTA, ORY-ATH-CMB-SIN-SYD-NOU-NAN-PPG-PPT-LAX circa 1974 DC-8 aircraft, I flew the LAX-SYD segment. The actual route varied depending on the day of the week, one variation was SYD-AKL-PPT (which I flew), another was SIN-NOM-PPT.
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Well it's a one-stop, but would take a while...
RE: Longest Multiple Stop Flight.
| Quoting my235 (Thread starter): What is the longest multiple stop flight anyone has heard of? |
Most of the larger airfreight operators have round the world services often operated by the same aircraft, I think EY has a AUH-HKG-ORD-VCP-UIO-AMS-AUH flight
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You might be able to include UA's milkrun flight in Micronesia. Goes HNL-GUM with many stops in between.
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KLM's prewar Amsterdam to Batavia (Jakarta) route, wtih Fokkers and DC-2s stopping at every haystack, would be hard to beat.
http://www.curassow.com/2dvrc/maps/klmoost.jpg
http://www.curassow.com/2dvrc/maps/klmoost.jpg
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RE: Longest Multiple Stop Flight.
| Quoting ptrjong (Reply 9): |
1926: Junkers Airlines did Berlin to Beijing ( and originally planned Shanghai ) using Junkers G 24
see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_G_24
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In 1939 PanAm flying their clippers took 7 hops and 7-8 days to go from San Fran to Hong Kong.
http://www.pacificaviationmuseum.org...rbor-blog/pan-ams-pacific-clippers
And cost $11,803 in todays dollars.
http://www.pacificaviationmuseum.org...rbor-blog/pan-ams-pacific-clippers
And cost $11,803 in todays dollars.
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| Quoting RetiredWeasel (Reply 11): [SF to Hong Kong] cost $11,803 in todays dollars. |
The site says $1368 in 1939-- anyone figure out where they got that?
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| Quoting ptrjong (Reply 12): Anyway, I don't think that was a scheduled service? |
IMU it was done in scope of route proving but never turned into scheduled flights.
The same year Junkers Luftverkehr AG was merged into the newly created Luft Hansa.
Quite interesting how extensive and how far Junkers sent his planes ( starting with the F13 in the early 20ties ).
Much more weight was put on Air Mail, small freight than Pax.
( also see the Transatlantic routes to South America.)
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| Quoting timz (Reply 13): The site says $1368 in 1939-- anyone figure out where they got that? |
That's the round trip SFO-HKG fare shown in Pan Am's June 1941 timetable. $760 one way, $1368 round trip. See page 3 here.
http://timetableimages.com/ttimages/pa/pa41/
They had separate timetables then for their major routes. That's the Atlantic/Pacific one.
RE: Longest Multiple Stop Flight.
The current 1 stop route from AKL-LAX-LHR on ANZ clocks in at nearly 12k miles.
I flew this route earlier this year from LAX to LHR and was seated next to a woman who was making the entire journey from AKL to LHR via LAX. She immediately began weeping when we touched down at LHR. After 25+ hours of travel, I don't blame her.
I flew this route earlier this year from LAX to LHR and was seated next to a woman who was making the entire journey from AKL to LHR via LAX. She immediately began weeping when we touched down at LHR. After 25+ hours of travel, I don't blame her.
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| Quoting afterburner (Reply 3): If it involves more than one airlines that it is not one flight. |
I think the original poster was referring to flights where the plane is sold to another airline and repainted at the middle destination, then continues to the final destination. Happens all the time.
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| Quoting TK787 (Reply 18): Quoting masgniw (Reply 16): AKL-LAX-LHR on ANZ clocks in at nearly 12k miles. LAX-IST-CGK on TK in at 12,739 miles, Ouch!! |
Try it in a DC-6B of Canadian Pacific Airlines in July 1959.
CP302 left Sydney at 1500 on Wednesday and flew ....
SYD-AKL-NAN-HNL-YVR-YEG-(tech stop)-AMS, arriving at 1600 on Saturday.
One airplane, one airline, one flight number, 13,836 miles!
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I flew AUS-LAX-NRT-SIN-BOM on SQ in 1998 and it was like 36 hours with 7-8 hours in SQ for layover. I was dead on landing in BOM.
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I did the COPA Central America milk-run a couple of times: Panama-Costa Rica-El Salvador-Nicaragua-Guatemala.
Also, on my way to Bolivia: Miami-Caracas-Manaus-Santa Cruz-La Paz
Also, on my way to Bolivia: Miami-Caracas-Manaus-Santa Cruz-La Paz
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RE: Longest Multiple Stop Flight.
| Quoting AirDFW (Reply 20): I flew AUS-LAX-NRT-SIN-BOM on SQ in 1998 and it was like 36 hours with 7-8 hours in SQ for layover. I was dead on landing in BOM. |
My FSM-DFW-LHR-SIN-MAA with a 10 hour layover in SIN was pretty similar in duration to yours.
Like you, I was dead on landing in MAA! Haha.
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RE: Longest Multiple Stop Flight.
| Quoting longhauler (Reply 19): Quoting TK787 (Reply 18): Quoting masgniw (Reply 16): AKL-LAX-LHR on ANZ clocks in at nearly 12k miles. LAX-IST-CGK on TK in at 12,739 miles, Ouch!! Try it in a DC-6B of Canadian Pacific Airlines in July 1959. CP302 left Sydney at 1500 on Wednesday and flew .... SYD-AKL-NAN-HNL-YVR-YEG-(tech stop)-AMS, arriving at 1600 on Saturday. One airplane, one airline, one flight number, 13,836 miles! |
I'm guessing there was probably an aircraft change at YVR, regardless of the single flight number.
It was around that time that the Britannia replaced the DC-6B on YVR-AMS, although the DC-6B continued a while longer on YVR-SYD, including for a while after DC-8s had replaced most of the Britannias on YVR-AMS. Somewhat later DC-8s operated as far as HNL changing to the Britannia for the HNL-NAN-AKL-SYD sectors (no 5th freedom rights AKL-SYD). The old AKL airport couldn't handle jets (except BOAC Comet 4s) so CP couldn't use the DC-8 to AKL until the new AKL airport opened in 1965.
CP had to suspend service to AKL sometime in the late '60s when the New Zealand government rescinded their bilateral with Canada to force CP out of the market. CP didn't resume service to AKL until sometime in the 1980s after a new bilateral was negotiated.
CP's original YVR-SYD service in 1949 using the Canadair C-4 (not called North Star by CP) took about as long as the DC-6B SYD-AMS but that was with 2 overnight stops with hotel and meals provided at HNL and NAN. Routing YVR-SFO (tech stop only)-HNL-Canton Island-NAN-SYD.
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| Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 23): I'm guessing there was probably an aircraft change at YVR, regardless of the single flight number. |
That would be my guess too. But still it would require an "excess" of DC-6Bs around as there would have to be two on the ground at the same time. That would happen most likely in YVR.
In all of the CP timetables I have, that was the only example I could find where the flight number stayed the same. CP marketed Asia - South America, and South Pacific to Europe through YVR, but there was usually a flight number change, and as you note, likely an equipment change.
But in answer to the OPs query .... that's one long assed flight!
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I checked in a lady once flying IAH-IST-BOM-SIN-SYD. 15,728 miles! It was a pain to get the system to tag her bags all the way to SYD!
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RE: Longest Multiple Stop Flight.
| Quoting longhauler (Reply 24): In all of the CP timetables I have, that was the only example I could find where the flight number stayed the same. CP marketed Asia - South America, and South Pacific to Europe through YVR, but there was usually a flight number change, and as you note, likely an equipment change. |
CP also used the same flight numbers in much of the 1950s between Asia and South America. A 1958 timetable shows the twice-weekly DC-6B service with flight numbers 401/403 westbound EZE-SCL-LIM-MEX-YVR-HND-HKG. Same routing eastbound as 402/404 all the way. They don't show the fuel stop in the Aleutians (usually Cold Bay I think) between YVR and HND. They also used the same numbers during that period MEX-Europe via YYZ/YUL.
Nowadays, 6th freedom services normally aren't permitted to use the same flight numbers although there seem to be some rare exceptions. In those days I expect things were more flexible, or they just did it until someone noticed and told them to stop. By the early '60s, all those routes used different flight numbers to/from the hub in Canada.
YVR-HND/NRT-HKG flight numbers 401/402/403/404 survived for at least 30 years, until well after 747s had replaced the DC-6Bs, Britannias and DC-8s on those routes. Around the time CP Air became Canadian they changed to single-digit flight numbers on the Asia routes, many of which are still used by AC today, e.g. 1 and 2 YYZ-NRT-YYZ, 3 and 4 YVR-NRT-YVR, and 7 and 8 YVR-HKG-YVR.
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| Quoting bomber996 (Reply 8): You might be able to include UA's milkrun flight in Micronesia. Goes HNL-GUM with many stops in between. |
For a regularly scheduled route that still operates today, that would have to be very high up on the list of routes with multiple stops on the same aircraft.
The good thing is you can book that trip so easily!
If only it was on a 757 and not a 737
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The question should be: longest multi-stop flight on a single flight number:
Other than: AKL-LAX-LHR
There is QF1 SYD-DXB-LHR (A388) 23hrs ,
and QF9 MEL-DXB-LHR(A388) 23hrs
Just a fun fact:
QF 2 LHR-DXB-SYD boarding pass reads Depart LHR 22:35 ; Arrive SYD 06:30 D+2 (that's right, 'two days later', on the same flight).
Other than: AKL-LAX-LHR
There is QF1 SYD-DXB-LHR (A388) 23hrs ,
and QF9 MEL-DXB-LHR(A388) 23hrs
Just a fun fact:
QF 2 LHR-DXB-SYD boarding pass reads Depart LHR 22:35 ; Arrive SYD 06:30 D+2 (that's right, 'two days later', on the same flight).
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| Quoting bomber996 (Reply 8): You might be able to include UA's milkrun flight in Micronesia. Goes HNL-GUM with many stops in between. |
UA154 route: HNL-MAJ-KWA-KSA-PNI-TKK-GUM
| Quoting ozglobal (Reply 28): QF 2 LHR-DXB-SYD boarding pass reads Depart LHR 22:35 ; Arrive SYD 06:30 D+2 (that's right, 'two days later', on the same flight). |
That's on two sectors.
The usual overnight flights from America to Australia like LAX-SYD are also +2 (arrive two days later) flights but only on the one sector!
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| Quoting 777Jet (Reply 29): The usual overnight flights from America to Australia like LAX-SYD are also +2 (arrive two days later) flights but only on the one sector! |
That's one of my favorite things about mY trip to SYD! The fact how you're not on the surface of the Earth for a whole day, and then in the same calendar day for 26 hours on the return! It's my "time travel" story!
RE: Longest Multiple Stop Flight.
| Quoting bomber996 (Reply 8): You might be able to include UA's milkrun flight in Micronesia. Goes HNL-GUM with many stops in between. |
I suppose one could fly an unlimited distance if multiple flights and airlines are used. Using just UA one could start in BOM-EWR-(numerous stops withing the USA)-HNL-(Island Hopper to GUM)-NRT. BUt if we used multiple airlines and flights, it's unlimited. One could just keep flying around the world for the rest of their life!
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